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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Mithlond


Sep 18 2014, 12:31pm


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I'm so glad about this. My guess is...

... there's much more Dol Guldur in the EE than expected. And I'm glad about that. I believe my avatar/name implies that I'm very much interested in seeing more of Dol Guldur.






Gandalf and Radagast stand before Dol Guldur. Gandalf sends Radagast to Lothlorien to inform Lady Galadriel about the return of Sauron.






Gandalf enters Dol Guldur alone. We see him walking inside the old fortress. No one else. Just him and the darkness. I guess this might be the moment where this last great shot from the DOS trailer is included since Gandalf still wears his head and everything


We see Gandalf using his spell of unconcealment a few times and we see Azog and his Orcs hiding in the dungeons. Nothing new here.

This shot was in the theatrical release (down) but without the approaching Thrain (up). Gandalf still wears his hat when Thrain attacks.


Thrain and Gandalf fight. Gandalf loses his head in this fight. According to some news Gandalf uses his magic to clear the mind of mad Thrain at least for a short moment.


Now we've got the short "Thorin must not go to Erebor" conversation between Gandalf and Thrain we've seen in the DOS EE trailer. Gandalf wears no head here.
Gandalf learns of Saurons plans and decides to confront him. Perhaps Gandalf asks Thrain to bring him to the Dark Lord? Gandalf again uses the spell.







This is when Azog and his Orcs do appear out of the concealment and attack Gandalf. Now comes the interesting part. In the theatrical version this is the moment when Gandalf loses his head. It's actually the same place where he meets Thrain. When I look at the scene when Azog knocks down Gandalf the head looks a bit CGI to me so perhaps there won't be a head falling down anymore since Gandalf lost it during his fight with Thrain? Or he put it back on. Both options are there. In the end Thrain disappeared. Who wouldn't? Gandalf and Azog have their short "We are legion", "You're too late", "He is everywhere" conversation. And Gandalf disappears.






Now we've got the moment when Gandalf runs throw Dol Guldur. At one point there might be Thrain returning and taking him to Sauron. Both are followed by Azogs minions of course.


Next is the confrontation with the Necromancer. In the theatrical release we've got a lot of CGI Gandalf in this one. Perhaps because in the original script there was Thrain standing next to Gandalf? Again besides Thrain behind standing next to Gandalf the Light vs. Dark fight remains the same.


When Sauron reveals himself to Gandalf and his staff is melting... perhaps we even see Thrain burning? This would be a call back to a scene for the prologue of FOTR where Sauron was supposed to kill Gil-Galad by touching and burning him to death. On the other hand... Thrain could escape and later help Gandalf... but I believe his death makes totally sense here.




Well... Sauron reveals himself and defeats Gandalf.


Gandalf imprisoned in a cage watches the Orc army leaving for Erebor.

EDIT: Sorry... a few of the images (including the ones with Thrain) do have some problems to be shown although not being to big.

"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power."

(This post was edited by Lieutenant of Dol Guldur on Sep 18 2014, 12:35pm)


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Post edited by Lieutenant of Dol Guldur (Mithlond) on Sep 18 2014, 12:33pm
Post edited by Lieutenant of Dol Guldur (Mithlond) on Sep 18 2014, 12:35pm


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