Cirashala
Doriath
Feb 2 2019, 12:34am
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Sindarin/elvish translations in LOTR
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Hello all! I am curious about the 'non-subtitled' elvish we hear in LOTR. There are a few moments (possibly some in TH trilogy too? Can't remember off the top of my head) where someone speaks elvish and there is no translation for what was spoken.
One in particular comes to mind- when Aragorn arrives at Helm's Deep, Legolas hands him the Evenstar necklace, and Aragorn looks up at him and says (not sure on spelling) "Anune". I assume, given the body language, this means a deep, heartfelt thank you [for recovering the necklace for me and keeping it safe].
But I have scoured David Salo's Introduction to Sindarin, and I do not see the verb "to thank" or a translation of the phrase "thank you". Nor do I see anune in the Sindarin-English dictionary part of ItS (one can assume that's because it's a conjugated verb, but I do not see it listed among verb root lists either).
Does anyone know what the direct translation was for what Aragorn said to Legolas? And does anyone know what the translations are for other moments in the films where there are no subtitles for what is spoken?
Thanks all! 
On a semi-related note- Legolas's grandfather, Oropher, left the southern lands of Mirkwood (then the Greenwood) when Galadriel and Celeborn moved in next door because Galadriel was Noldo, and also because the might of Khazad-dum was growing and the men of the Anduin vale were allied with the dwarves of Khazad-dum.
Now, we know that Quenya was the high-elven speech and akin to Latin in our world (a language of lore not a cradle-speech, I believe Tolkien puts it). However, Quenya was used mostly by the Noldor and didn't arrive in ME until the Noldor did. And the Sindar resented the Noldor, especially in Thingol's realm (from which it is purported that Thranduil and Oropher came from).
So, given that, do you think Legolas, as a prince of Mirkwood (and possibly Thranduil's heir, providing he didn't have siblings), would have known Quenya? Or do you think his father would have banned use of Quenya in his kingdom? Because I'm wondering if what Aragorn said was, in fact, Quenya not Sindarin. If that's the case, then it makes a whole lot of sense as to why I didn't find it in ItS.
Thoughts?
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(This post was edited by Cirashala on Feb 2 2019, 12:39am)
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