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Elthir
Hithlum

May 15 2014, 12:56pm


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Not according to the books

And, while no offense to Tolkien Gateway [the section posted by the elegantly snouted Black Fox], or DarkJackal's theory...

... and not that anyone said otherwise, but both conjectural essays are based on characters and details from The Book of Lost Tales, a very early version of the Fall of Gondolin, which [generally speaking] contains characters and conceptions that are out of keeping with Tolkien's later vision of Middle-earth.

In my opinion we can't even be sure that some of the characters mentioned in this early tale were to 'still exist' in a post-Lord of the Rings world, much less the details of what weapons they bore. And yes, it's the only long prose version of The Fall of Gondolin that Tolkien ever wrote ['completed' in a sense], so whatareyagonnado I guess, but I think it should be emphasized...

... that these theories are largely based on a work that Tolkien was arguably going to refer to for a general frame of reference. The only updated long prose Fall of Gondolin appears in Unfinished tales, [Of Tuor And His Coming To Gondolin] and itself gets no where near to describing all the characters involved or what weapons they bore.

I'm just sayin Tongue


(This post was edited by Elthir on May 15 2014, 1:04pm)


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