Maciliel
Doriath
Jul 27, 3:50am
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eee-eeevil el-ves (parody song by elo)
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maeglin! i totally forgot about maeglin! such evil, indeed.
(your post header made me laugh, btw : ) )
yes, i agree, one can be evil and not be affiliated with the dark lords. but (in tolkien's world), from where does the evil originate? tolkien described (iifc) morgoth's marring of arda as sort of akin to a radioactivity, that burned and poisoned even after he was gone.
so from whence came the evilness that was within eol and maeglin? is it that eol was residing too near lands where morgoth held sway, and it sort of creeped over him, like a lengthening shadow?
prompted by recent reading room thread, i checked out the wikipedia page on feanor / the house of feanor. the wikipedia entry had some interesting notions about how tolkien saw the role of creation (or, how he referred to it, sub-creation) in arda. that feanor's drive to create, his love of the act of creating (above other, perhaps almost all other, things), and his over-love of his own creations was his own flaw (not morgoth's).
and that perhaps the noldor (as a clan of elves) shared that trait with feanor to a certain extent (even if they were not as clever or creation-obsessed as feanor). certainly the inventive noldor clan seem to be associated with so much of the woe of middle earth, and perhaps some of it is independent of morgoth ('tho morgoth's evil may have corrupted many).
turgon, 'tho he was not evil, perhaps was compromised (and ultimately ruined) by his creation-loving noldorian bent. he built gondolin, thought its creation was so cleverly hidden, so well hidden, that he would not abandon it ('tho he was warned). he did abandon nargothrond, so arguably he was able to keep his noldorian love of his creations in check at one point). are there other nodorian examples of this over loving of their own creations? galadriel?
eol was not noldor. was he not one of the elven clan who did not journey to aman? so, he did not have the native noldorian bad habit (rising from a noldorian heritage). but he seemed to share a similar flaw with the clan to which he was not born -- an overlove of creating and an overlove of his creations, and placing them above actual people.
is this a theme of tolkien? i'm just considering it for the first time. i had always seen tolkien had painted feanor with these faults, but didn't attribute these faults to the noldor as a whole (or other non-noldorian characters). but it's making me think, now.
(i'll see if i can dig up / link to the post on the other reading room thread that spurred me to look up the wikipedia entry... i'm a bit sleepy at the moment, so will have to check later.)
cheers --
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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."
this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo
(This post was edited by Maciliel on Jul 27, 3:58am)
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