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Michelle Johnston
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Nov 10 2024, 1:08pm

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I hope they do "go there" and not shrink away from the in-world religious beliefs and systems. I also agree about the cowardice in backing away from that kind of thing - especially in the entertainment world. People don't want to be reminded of bigger, higher, or more important things than us. But I don't think that should stop the show from doing its thing.

I was encouraged, listening to all the interviews with the showrunners over the last few weeks (one with Corey and Maggie on Rings and Realms was particularly refreshing in this area) and that they seem very much in tune with Tolkien's religious foundations. They don't seem like the type to shy away from this - and I think we've seen some evidence in the show already that they're going to "go there".

I'm excited for it.

I have only watched 20% of that interview and they had not got on to the professors beliefs.

However whats got me thinking is that the audience knows:-

1) Numenor is going to be overwhelmed. They know about the Valar and the Eagle and the Tree.

2) They know Beleriand is beneath the waves (Arondir) and that Valinor is hidden and only open to the ordained.

3) And the one has been mentioned but very subtly. His/her agency has not been on show to date though much of ME is beneath the waves.

If Eru appears big time. buries Ar Pharazon's fleet, overwhelms Numenor in a very obviously interventionist way, will it be harder to just leave the remnants of all this to fight it out at the climax of the series. The rest of the series will be post catastrophe.

If you want to even out the narrative then Sauron needs to retain his agency and the loss of Numenor has to be a more local difficulty.

As always with the back story when you start putting it up against the wall and really looking at the story telling dynamics it needs a work over.

As one of them said this story tells the story of an age when everything was at its peak and the third age is post apocalyptic. If you are not careful the end of the 2nd age could look like a post script.

And given this series is called the Rings Of Power I do not think they will let that happen.

So go with the beliefs but God turning up mid way through the overall story feels wrong at a structural level to me.

It's odd but probably because the Akallabeth came ten years after the LOTR (for me) I had a perception in my teens that the drowning of Beleriand and the hiding of Valinor was more important than the drowning of Numenor. and the removal of Paradise and as has been said elsewhere the flat earth idea was creaking toward the end of the professors life.

It's going to be fascinating to see how they generate five seasons of ascension.

My Dear Bilbo something is the matter with you! you are not the same hobbit that you were.

(This post was edited by Michelle Johnston on Nov 10 2024, 1:14pm)

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