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vanima ephel
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Sep 27 2014, 8:13pm


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Vanima Ephel's Time Capsule (Please do not reply to this post.)

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What I want to see in BotFA
What I really want is a "Rocks Defy Gravity! Everyone Lives!" ending, though I know Thorin, at least, has to die for Mythic Significance, and Kili (and/or Tauriel) will likely die as a Full Stop for the implied love triangle. I'd rather Tauriel, Kili and Fili not die. (The Tolkien Professor podcast makes a good case for a movie audience preferring to see Fili - a character they've come to love over the course of the three movies - become Thorin's rightful heir instead of Dain - an unfamiliar character who will likely appear just in time to help Thorin incite war with the Elves and Men before the BotFA actually begins.) The book purists would obviously hate it, but I don't think it would contradict anything said in movie canon.

I'd like Bilbo to witness the BotFA and to communicate how he feels about it (through Martin Freeman's wonderfully expressive face and/or Bilbo's actions and commentary.

I'd like to see Thranduil changed by the reality of the new desolation of Smaug
and by Bilbo's sacrifice. I hope there'll be time for Legolas and Tauriel to feel that change in some kind of Father/Son and King/Respected-Subject interaction with him.

I'd like to see Galadriel sing Sauron away. :) And I wouldn't mind being given a reason why Gandalf lets Bilbo keep his magic ring - considering I expect Dul Guldur to leave the remaining White Council convinced Sauron is back and regaining power.

What I expect will actually be in BotFA
Rocks Fall. Everyone (you expect) Dies. As does Radagast. :( Dain becomes King Under the Mountain. Galadriel and Gandalf do not become an item.

How I feel about Bilbo's story so far and my thoughts about what will happen to him in BotFA
The killing of the orc in the first movie was weird, but the excellence of the Riddles in the Dark scene eclipsed that disappointment. And, really, I'm thinking Martin Freeman can do no wrong as this character. Bilbo is supposed to represent the earnest everyman, and MF was born for just that role. However Bilbo's story wraps up in BotFA, I'm sure MF will make it easy for me to believe it. (And I look forward to another peek in by Ian Holm.)

More of my thoughts on BotFA
It might not look like it, seeing how little I've refered to him in this post, but Thranduil is the character I'll be most concerned with come tBotFA in December. His arc should be the most dramatic, based on what they've set up in the first two films. (Yes, more so than Thorin's, if only because I expect the dramatic end for Thorin, based on the book. The expansion on the character for the movieverse leaves much more up in the air for fans of The Elvenking.) What will happen between Legolas and Thranduil? What will happen between Tauriel and Thranduil? Worst possible answer: nothing.


"I dissent, even at the risk of being held incorrect or not sober."

(This post was edited by vanima ephel on Sep 27 2014, 8:21pm)


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