AinurOlorin
Gondolin
May 4 2013, 11:43am
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It would seem that some have decided that the perception is not there to be read, and are gping to willfully
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ignore it unless and until it becomes a matter too extreme to be capable of being ignored ( I suppose her telepathicly messaging him with a threat to confiscate his wand if he doesn't investigate Dol Guldur MIGHT do it, though I thankfully doubt anything as obnoxious as bit of true hyperbole would take place in these films).
I have been, and remain, one of the great, steadfast supporters of this movie. I thought it was a great movie, despite a fair number of flaws, most of which dealt in major deviances that did not play as well as the actual recorded events would have. The implication, even ambiguously, that Gandalf is some manner of underling within the Council, especially in regards to Galadriel as opposed to soley Saruman, is one of those flaws. It is not something solely imagined by us defenders of The Gray Messenger, especially since several major critics (remember all those reviews all of us were reading ere the movie released), including some of the more positive ones, specifically stated that Gandalf was "clearly" an inferior at the council, surrounded by his "higher ups and mentors" (mentors . . . wth? He isn't Saruman's apprentice, and he certainly isn't Elrond or Galadriel's! Faramir may be a "Wizard's pupil", but Gandalf simply IS a Wizard).
So, whether some amongst us acknowledge it or not, that perception IS out there, and not just amongst anecdotal encounters I and other members have had with more casual fans of the films, but also amongst some of the critics writing widely puplicized views of the films.
I generally loved this movie, but I didn't love seeing Gandalf, who specifically refused to head The Council EXACTLY because he was unwilling to be anserable to a committee outside of Eru and The Valar who had sent him, portrayed as being expressly answerable.
As to the power balance between himself and Galadriel. . . no one is asking that Gandalf go Arnold/Bruce/Sylvester on Dol Guldur, nor that Galadriel not be displayed as the majestic and powerful being she is. Merely that The Great Wizard and disguised Holy Spirit Gandalf not be badly shown up. ... as A LOT of people apparantly do not even get the understanding of the superior thing that you fear. Those conversation among "quasi-fans" as you call them seem really a bit hyperbole to me. I have yet to meet anyone who spend much time on thinking about the hierarchy of Middle-earth after watching AUJ.
You seem to totally ignore all arguments made in that direction.
Other than that I fully agree with Silverlode.
"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"
"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
(This post was edited by AinurOlorin on May 4 2013, 11:46am)
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