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The One Ring Forums:
Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit:
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to:
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
May 8 2016, 1:30pm
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Professor Tolkien has the Dwarves of the company acting like morons quite often as well.
- They start the Quest of Erebor poorly armed, seemingly with nothing beyond utilitarian knives and perhaps bows for hunting, and nothing in the way of even the lightest armor.
- They investigate the Troll-camp mostly in ones and twos, wandering in and for the most part getting easily caught. Even Thorin, their leader, can't do better than a burning branch for a weapon.
- None of them think to call out to the reveling Wood-elves in the clearing instead of announcing themselves by walking into it.
- The Dwarves can't figure out even the approximate date of their own New Year's Day even though it should be easy to determine when the last (new?) moon before the onset of Winter should fall. Even if they couldn't be sure that there would be a Durin's Day in any given year, they should at least know that much.
- Thorin, captured by the Wood-elves, doesn't at least attempt to use the same excuse for the presence of the company that they used with the goblins: traveling to visit relatives in the east. Surely the Elvenking knows of Dain in the Iron Hills.
- As in the films, they have no plans for dealing with Smaug beyond burglary.
- No one among the Dwarves try to talk Thorin out of his hardline stance against cutting a deal with the Elves and Men.
This doesn't excuse PJ's plotting, but it does show that there is plenty of precedence for the Dwarves making poor decisions. Oh, and about Bard simply fleeing Lake-town with his family:
Gee, where could they go...Rivendell, Gondor, Shire, Mirkwood, Bree, Rohan, namely anywhere else in Middle Earth. Legolas and Bolg both arrived in Laketown after Bard said this, and were long gone gone by the time the dragon showed up. Thus establishing that Bard and his family could have also left.
Don't underestimate distances in Middle-earth and the difficulties of traveling late in the year. Where could Bard go with little in the way of food and supplies? The Wood-elves where the only large community of folk who were less than several weeks away.
"Things need not to have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure
when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
- Dream of the Endless
(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on May 8 2016, 1:39pm)
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