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It's time for some BS!:
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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome
May 31, 1:13pm
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It's time for some BS!
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Can we see the forest for the trees? Let's take a look at the Trollshaws.
...The Trollshaws are not identified by name in The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings, but the name and location are shown on the Map of the Trollshaws in Eriador in The Lord of the Rings drawn by Christopher Tolkien.
...The Trollshaws were along the East-West Road east of the Last Bridge and west of the Ford of Bruinen and Rivendell within the borders of Rhudaur.
..."They were the haunt of Trolls, especially after the fall of Arnor; Stone-trolls from "the mountains" came to the woodlands. This was the case of William who led Tom and Bert; having eaten a village and a half on their way, they complained about the scarcity of people in the area and instead had to make do with mutton. While they made their camp, they famously waylaid Bilbo and his companions who were on their Quest of Erebor. Thanks to the distractions of Gandalf, the Trolls were turned to stone by the Sun. Years later, Frodo and his companions traversed the woodland and found the Trolls' petrified forms on the way to Rivendell."
[From The Encyclopedia of Arda]
Etymology
... "Shaw is an archaic word meaning thicket, small wood, copse, or grove. The Trollshaws are referred to in the narrative as "the Trolls' wood. According to the Index of The Lord of the Rings the Trolls' wood is equivalent to the Trollshaws which means Trollwoods.
... The woods geographically belonged to where the ancient realm of Rhudaur used to be, and were perhaps named after it. The Sindarin name Rhudaur means Troll shaw.
[From The Encyclopedia of Arda] and [Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King: Index III, Persons, Places, and Things"]
Here are some Book Spoilers of other references to the Trolls' territory... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.
From A Short Rest: The Hobbit ... ""Let's get out of this horrible smell!" said Fili. So they carried out the pots of coins, and such food as was untouched and looked fit to eat, also one barrel of ale which was still full. By that time they felt like breakfast... ...being very hungry they did not turn their noses up at what they had got from the trolls' larder. Their own provisions were very scanty. Now they had bread and cheese, and plenty of ale, and bacon to toast in the embers of the fire."
... "Elrond knew all about runes of every kind... ...he looked at the swords they had brought from the trolls' lair, and he said: "These are not troll-make. They are old swords, very old swords of the High Elves of the West, my kin. They were made in Gondolin for the Goblin-wars. They must have come from a dragon's hoard or goblin plunder, for dragons and goblins destroyed that city many ages ago. "
From Flight to the Ford: The Fellowship of the Ring ... "The hobbits were glad to leave the cheerless lands and the perilous Road behind them; but this new country seemed threatening and unfriendly... ...the hills about them steadily rose. Here and there upon heights and ridges they caught glimpses of ancient walls of stone, and the ruins of towers: they had an ominous look. Frodo... ...had time to gaze ahead and to think. He recalled Bilbo's account of his journey and the threatening towers on the hills north of the Road, in the country near the Trolls' wood where his first serious adventure had happened. Frodo guessed that they were now in the same region, and wondered if by chance they would pass near the spot."
... "Outside the door they all halted. There was a cave or rock-chamber behind... ...in the gloom inside nothing could be seen. Strider, Sam, and Merry pushing with all their strength managed to open the door a little wider... ...then Strider and Merry went in. They did not go far, for on the floor lay many old bones, and nothing else was to be seen near the entrance except some great empty jars and broken pots.
...'Surely this is a troll-hole, if ever there was one!' said Pippin. 'Come out... ...and let us get away. Now we know who made the path--and we had better get off it quick.'
... 'There is no need, I think,' said Strider, coming out. 'It is certainly a troll-hole, but it seems to have been long forsaken. I don't think we need be afraid. But let us go down warily, and we shall see.'"
We have been there and back again.
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(This post was edited by grammaboodawg on May 31, 1:24pm)
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