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Michelle Johnston
Mithlond


Feb 20 2015, 10:31am


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Wonderful Wonderful analysis

Firstly I wanted to say i really enjoyed your remarks about themes and motives bubbling under in these films. In my view not breaking through to the surface in a clearly communicative way on occasions which would give the story the sort of gravitas the screen writers were aspiring to.

I suspect in the movie universe Thrain's plea to Gandalf was a dramatic nicety included to both underline Thrain's knowledge of Saurons's linkage with Smaug and increase the sense of foreboding just as the company reach the mountain. One could argue Thrain is suffering, like Denethor, from a loss of self belief after being warn down by Sauron seemingly overwhelming upper hand.

On the whole I would have felt Thrain, his wits partially restored by Gandalfs healing, would simply request his great friend Gandalf to return with all speed to the mountain to give aid and council to his son rather than dissuade him of his attempt to reclaim the Arkenstone. The Dwarves are a pretty resolute bunch and will go at against impossible odds rather than be daunted by evil. I am not at home but I recall Tolkien making this point about the character of the Dwarves.

Your splendid point about the gradual emergence of Azog as a name is typical JRRT- finding out the truth.

My Dear Bilbo something is the matter with you! you are not the same hobbit that you were.

(This post was edited by Michelle Johnston on Feb 20 2015, 10:32am)


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Post edited by Michelle Johnston (Mithlond) on Feb 20 2015, 10:32am


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