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Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit:
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Apr 28 2015, 4:03pm
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So, if Thorin's Halls are in the central parts of the Northern range, as on the map you posted, why did Dwalin tell that the halls were to the north? Or can their location (the location shown on the map) still be called north (north of Hobbiton)? Part of this might just be the difference between book and film. Tolkien simply wrote (in Appendix A):
So Thráin and Thorin with what remained of their following (among whom were Balin and Glóin) returned to Dunland, and soon afterwards they removed and wandered in Eriador, until at last they made a home in exile in the east of the Ered Luin beyond the Lune. Jackson and his crew may have placed the halls farther north than Professor Tolkien might have, but it is hard to be sure of Tolkien's original intent (unless someone has a more specific citation). I think that Fonstad's placement was an educated guess.
I do know that Fonstad placed Belegost much farther south than indicated by both the map and the text of The Silmarillion; she based her location on Tolkien's drawings and descriptions reproduced in HOME IV, The Shaping of Middle-earth. This might have also influenced her location for Thorin's Halls (although in the Third Age, her Belegost might be drowned under the Gulf of Lhune).
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Apr 28 2015, 4:12pm)
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(Elvenhome) on Apr 28 2015, 4:06pm
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(Elvenhome) on Apr 28 2015, 4:07pm
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