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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 116379 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:46pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

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Collapse Sticky: Folks from the Uni of Waikato want to know YOUR opinion on BotFA! greendragon 4585 25 Jan 21, 4:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by elf-lady)

  Collapse Hobbit Accuracy to Books vs LOTR Accuracy to Books Hobbity Hobbit 178 5 Thu, 10:20pm Jump to last post in thread (by Hobbity Hobbit)
       Collapse Well, I can't agree, but... Otaku-sempai 147 1 Thu, 11:27pm
         JRRT wrote it, Sir PJ Adapted it, 80 years Later?// Bombadil 92 0 3:37am
       Collapse Whaaaat?! AshNazg 26 2 47 mins ago
           Collapse Do you honestly believe everything you just wrote? Skaan 22 1 44 mins ago
               Yeah, Hobbity Hobbit 9 0 18 mins ago

  Collapse Is it okay to like the movies? Kilidoescartwheels 234 8 1:45am Jump to last post in thread (by adt100)
       Collapse Misinformed here, or not up to date… for when you get off your treadmill. . . Bracegirdle 211 3 2:18am
           Read the book three times, once when young, when I was older, and before the movies came out... Pandallo 200 0 2:35am
           Collapse Well that wasn't my point Kilidoescartwheels 190 1 3:13am
               In short ,my question was simply curiosity not judgmental or meant as criticism. Bracegirdle 170 0 4:01am
       Collapse But but but ... DanielLB 129 1 6:28am
           Wait a minute..... you LIKED that star wars prequels!?!?! adt100 41 0 11:04am
       Collapse Of course CathrineB 89 1 8:44am
         OKAY? Bomby's Turn.. Bombadil 51 0 10:57am

  Collapse An honest discussion about Alfrid Bishop 532 57 Thu, 3:05pm Jump to last post in thread (by adt100)
       Collapse Well Smaug the iron 468 4 Thu, 3:15pm
           Collapse A lot of people wanted the gold / gems Bishop 458 3 Thu, 3:25pm
               Collapse Alfrid reasons Smaug the iron 402 2 Thu, 4:19pm
                   Collapse I didn't really get that at all Bishop 393 1 Thu, 4:23pm
                       I diden't mean Smaug the iron 331 0 Thu, 5:18pm
       Collapse Someone for characters to talk to... AshNazg 468 18 Thu, 3:23pm
           Collapse I agree that he is a useful tool for narrative Bishop 444 17 Thu, 3:37pm
               Collapse As I said, Alfrid's continued inclusion is to create a mirror... AshNazg 331 16 Thu, 5:24pm
                   Collapse Humor Smaug the iron 273 10 Thu, 5:41pm
                       Collapse mixed bag Mooseboy018 211 5 Thu, 7:31pm
                           Collapse I think Smaug the iron 207 4 Thu, 7:40pm
                               Collapse We can only hope! // Otaku-sempai 200 2 Thu, 7:55pm
                                   Collapse depends on which one Mooseboy018 193 1 Thu, 7:59pm
                                     Just Checked IMDB, Ryan is in a new TV Series Bombadil 178 0 Thu, 8:24pm
                               Has there been anything official on this? Bishop 196 0 Thu, 7:58pm
                       Collapse There's no justification for such an abomination, IMHO Glorfindela 133 2 Thu, 10:20pm
                           Collapse Different cinemas, perhaps? Spriggan 103 1 Thu, 11:42pm
                               In reply Glorfindela 49 0 7:15am
                       I'm a Brit and I thought most of the humour was spot on :) adt100 15 0 10:55am
                   Collapse Not that I'm aware of Kilidoescartwheels 169 4 Thu, 8:41pm
                       Collapse The New Esgaroth Otaku-sempai 160 1 Thu, 8:53pm
                           Bilbo told Smaug the iron 154 0 Thu, 9:09pm
                       Collapse Read it again... Eleniel 150 1 Thu, 9:32pm
                           Okay, people Kilidoescartwheels 92 0 12:49am
       Collapse Alfrid and the Master of Lake-town Otaku-sempai 455 2 Thu, 3:26pm
           Collapse I agree Kilidoescartwheels 326 1 Thu, 5:21pm
               Not just any Hobbit ... DanielLB 54 0 6:34am
       Collapse Alfrid is his Foil...even when Bard First gets to Laketown... Bombadil 430 9 Thu, 3:51pm
           Collapse Jackson did it... Otaku-sempai 383 8 Thu, 4:31pm
               Collapse I agree Bishop 366 7 Thu, 4:41pm
                   Collapse Alfrid in Dale? Bombadil 361 2 Thu, 4:47pm
                       Collapse None of those things are logical or necessary to me Bishop 351 1 Thu, 4:58pm
                           Well, there is ONE more thing to consider? Bombadil 331 0 Thu, 5:16pm
                   Collapse Not this. Otaku-sempai 361 1 Thu, 4:47pm
                       Except Bishop 357 0 Thu, 4:51pm
                   Collapse His presence... arithmancer 137 1 Thu, 10:02pm
                       Foil and contrast glor 114 0 Thu, 11:10pm
       Collapse Master´s book is a perfect coda for the theme of greed Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 400 3 Thu, 4:13pm
           Collapse Well yes, some ending for the character would have been better Bishop 393 2 Thu, 4:21pm
               The ONLY reason I can think of Kilidoescartwheels 316 0 Thu, 5:33pm
               Jackson could have got rid of Alfrid, and orc chase at Laketown and still had elves in the town being canon to the book Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 231 0 Thu, 6:47pm
       Jackson usually accesses populations through two or three "avatars" Spriggan 340 0 Thu, 5:07pm
       Collapse Alfrid Goldeneye 319 4 Thu, 5:26pm
           Collapse Yeah, Stephen Fry is good at comedy! Kilidoescartwheels 312 1 Thu, 5:34pm
               Time on Screen & Logistics Bombadil 255 0 Thu, 5:57pm
           Collapse Agree with everything you said... Salmacis81 230 1 Thu, 6:50pm
               Another thought... Morthoron 212 0 Thu, 7:27pm
       Didn't mind him in DoS too much... Salmacis81 237 0 Thu, 6:45pm
       Yiesh CathrineB 177 0 Thu, 8:29pm
       Collapse I'm curious about your use of 'honest'.... dormouse 117 4 Thu, 11:12pm
           I'm one of those. Milieuterrien 98 0 12:25am
           Collapse I don't know. Honest as in fair? Bishop 68 2 1:45am
               Well, I'll add a comment Avandel 76 0 2:00am
               There are historical references as well. Bombadil 78 0 2:22am
       Collapse I have to add my opinion ... DanielLB 58 1 6:31am
         The World of Men in the 3RD Age...? Bombadil 21 0 10:33am
       I honestly liked him! adt100 16 0 10:53am

Collapse A Few Reasons these 2 Trilogies are SSOo..Different? Bombadil 965 22 Tue, 9:16am Jump to last post in thread (by Silverlode)
       You're certainly right about The Hobbit films being a tragedy... jtarkey 851 0 Tue, 10:59am
       3 Weddings and a Funeral Kilidoescartwheels 762 0 Tue, 2:20pm
       Collapse Here's a nice comparison of the two trilogies "Style vs Function" AshNazg 670 5 Tue, 6:49pm
         Collapse AN.. your Video does bring up some Interesting points Bombadil 626 4 Tue, 8:07pm
               Collapse We have seen the movie he was destined to make... Morthoron 578 3 Tue, 9:30pm
                   Collapse Nice Opinion? Have anything more to ADD?// Bombadil 547 2 Tue, 10:05pm
                       Collapse No, nothing further presently, however... Morthoron 547 1 Tue, 10:13pm
                         Well, "Thang YOU Berry BUCH..?"// Bombadil 484 0 Wed, 12:30am
       Collapse One Trilogy was more epochal for it's time, the other is more for it's Genre squiggle 512 1 Tue, 11:43pm
         In a way? PJ invented? the GENRE... Bombadil 449 0 Wed, 3:05am
       Collapse I refuse to admit Istaris'staffs 439 10 Wed, 5:49am
           Along that that lline, The Hobbit is a single book and not a trilogy Eruonen 330 0 Wed, 4:54pm
           Collapse I can't agree Kilidoescartwheels 274 8 Wed, 9:26pm
               Collapse I guess you are completely unaware... Morthoron 245 7 Thu, 12:19am
                   Collapse MOST Excellent post! Bombadil 228 1 Thu, 1:00am
                       You think it's great that he ran me down so badly? Kilidoescartwheels 66 0 12:31am
                   Collapse I would imagine complaints about "development" arithmancer 215 1 Thu, 1:55am
                       Thank you for that Kilidoescartwheels 72 0 Thu, 11:54pm
                   Collapse Don't be so condescending Kilidoescartwheels 81 1 Thu, 11:52pm
                       I sort of get it. Otaku-sempai 42 0 4:25am
                   A reminder... Silverlode 26 0 8:10am
       Looking at an object purely via the lens of another, is it more useful 'what is' rather than 'what is not'? squiggle 220 0 Thu, 1:40am

  My theory on the Watchful Peace and Angmar in the Hobbit movies ThorinsNemesis 74 0 4:36am Jump to last post in thread (by ThorinsNemesis)

  Collapse The Carving above the Secret Door. Otaku-sempai 236 5 Thu, 5:59pm Jump to last post in thread (by dormouse)
       Collapse The carving Ilmatar 180 4 Thu, 7:26pm
           Collapse Thanks for this! Otaku-sempai 171 3 Thu, 7:32pm
               Collapse No problem :) Ilmatar 162 2 Thu, 7:45pm
                   Well... Otaku-sempai 159 0 Thu, 7:53pm
                   If the idea was that the King who held the Arkenstone.... dormouse 93 0 Thu, 10:40pm

  Collapse An Elvenking Perverted Otaku-sempai 727 19 Mon, 8:21pm Jump to last post in thread (by elostirion74)
       Collapse I've often wondered about this Bishop 596 7 Mon, 10:01pm
           Collapse I don't think we are supposed to believe that. arithmancer 571 6 Mon, 11:10pm
               Collapse Oh I think he has depth absolutely Bishop 561 5 Mon, 11:23pm
                   Collapse That did not occur to me... arithmancer 554 2 Mon, 11:33pm
                       Collapse Likewise Bishop 545 1 Mon, 11:42pm
                           Perhaps to be expanded upon in the EE Otaku-sempai 530 0 Tue, 12:45am
                   Collapse I don't think so. Laineth 174 1 Wed, 5:13pm
                       Tolkien's Thranduil. Otaku-sempai 167 0 Wed, 5:46pm
       Collapse About Bard Kilidoescartwheels 402 3 Tue, 2:14pm
           The changes work within the films. Otaku-sempai 393 0 Tue, 2:26pm
           Agree Avandel 263 0 Wed, 7:45am
           You're talking of the EE when you're discussing Thranduil, right? elostirion74 59 0 Thu, 5:38pm
       Collapse Bard was very idealized in general, not only in this scene elostirion74 339 2 Tue, 8:01pm
           Collapse You know... Brandybuckled 205 1 Wed, 3:28pm
               Bard Otaku-sempai 196 0 Wed, 3:54pm
       Collapse Tauriel... Salmacis81 215 1 Wed, 2:47pm
           You do have a point. Otaku-sempai 198 0 Wed, 3:49pm
       Collapse Thranduil's Wife GrimMorwen 91 1 Thu, 2:25pm
           Elves and Death Otaku-sempai 82 0 Thu, 2:59pm

  Collapse Thorin's and Bilbo's Relationship Bishop 615 24 Wed, 7:33pm Jump to last post in thread (by Pandallo)
       Collapse The main problem with DOS Dcole4 518 3 Wed, 8:17pm
           Collapse Re: MEM 321 2 Thu, 3:25am
               Collapse original ending Mooseboy018 309 1 Thu, 4:11am
                   Thorin and Bilbo in the original script.... Pandallo 109 0 Thu, 5:09pm
       I interpreted the relationship shadowdog 516 0 Wed, 8:20pm
       Collapse The hug-fest at the end of AUJ was misplaced. RosieLass 489 3 Wed, 8:47pm
           Collapse Slightly different take Ilmatar 445 2 Wed, 9:54pm
               Collapse And another version Avandel 154 1 Thu, 2:57pm
                   I do agree... Ilmatar 134 0 Thu, 3:44pm
       Collapse Well CathrineB 490 4 Wed, 8:52pm
           Collapse Shipping arithmancer 452 1 Wed, 9:32pm
               Agreed re pretty graphics from shippers Avandel 277 0 Thu, 6:29am
           I might Laineth 413 0 Wed, 10:40pm
           You're not the only one... Queen of Erebor 409 0 Wed, 11:10pm
       In defense of Thorin Kilidoescartwheels 479 0 Wed, 8:58pm
       Collapse Thorin and Bilbo in AUJ arithmancer 477 1 Wed, 9:00pm
           Bilbo and Thorin's arc Mooseboy018 326 0 Thu, 2:39am
       Collapse Bilbo and Thorin´s relationship was one of the things I was completely satisfied with all the way elostirion74 443 3 Wed, 9:56pm
           Collapse Thorin's death arithmancer 380 2 Thu, 12:12am
             Collapse Bomby would hug someone who just saved my Life? Bombadil 363 1 Thu, 12:54am
                   But... arithmancer 347 0 Thu, 1:58am
       Collapse DOS EE Bilbo answers for Thorin infront the master of laketown Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 277 1 Thu, 6:28am
           That was a Key Turning Point well played... Bombadil 273 0 Thu, 6:46am
       I love it. Smaug the iron 171 0 Thu, 2:15pm

  Collapse On the Arkenstone... and other ramblings from the teapot dormouse 1089 61 May 16, 11:00am Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)
       Alternate Scene. Otaku-sempai 905 0 May 16, 1:02pm
       Collapse I will be surprised if the Arkenstone is not buried with Thorin Voronwë_the_Faithful 869 2 May 16, 2:45pm
           GREAT POST dmouse... Bombadil 845 0 May 16, 3:31pm
           Yes... dormouse 585 0 May 17, 8:15am
       Great Post DM Michelle Johnston 819 0 May 16, 4:41pm
     Collapse Thoughts - LOL lots of them Avandel 748 3 May 16, 7:56pm
           Collapse Dain No I won't/Yes I will. Michelle Johnston 702 1 May 16, 10:01pm
               And Dain does continue to grow as leader oliphaunt 685 0 May 16, 10:52pm
           Agree! Glassary 404 0 Sun, 9:22pm
       Collapse Here's a simple answer Kilidoescartwheels 632 8 May 17, 3:48am
           Collapse There's another factor that makes Thorin's position ambiguous.... dormouse 580 2 May 17, 8:35am
               ABSOLUTELY Correctomundo..dm Bombadil 522 0 May 17, 11:47am
               Although Avandel 487 0 Sun, 3:59pm
           Collapse Either the Arkenstone drives the plot or it doesn't. Michelle Johnston 462 4 Sun, 6:22pm
               Collapse I'm intrigued.... dormouse 448 2 Sun, 7:38pm
                   Collapse Clarification Michelle Johnston 350 1 Mon, 6:29am
                       What? Dain was at AZANULBIZAR? Bombadil 305 0 Mon, 9:27am
               It can still drive the plot Kilidoescartwheels 120 0 Mon, 9:39pm
       Collapse Why I see no loose ends in the Arkenstone plot, and what really bothers me about it greenbalrog 415 31 Sun, 9:34pm
           Collapse The Arkenstone Otaku-sempai 365 3 Mon, 5:11am
               Well said Michelle Johnston 343 0 Mon, 6:47am
               Collapse Elves "pay homage" to the Dwarfs because they are afraid of them? greenbalrog 300 1 Mon, 10:12am
                   Well... Otaku-sempai 221 0 Mon, 2:28pm
           Collapse Great Post Michelle Johnston 343 16 Mon, 6:54am
               Collapse Yes, the Arkenstone plot seems complete, but the stone's own significance isn't well explained greenbalrog 253 1 Mon, 11:10am
                   Just to quickly clarify Michelle Johnston 212 0 Mon, 3:23pm
               Collapse Ring-like and Silmaril-like..... dormouse 230 13 Mon, 1:42pm
                   Collapse "Like" not "Is" Michelle Johnston 209 6 Mon, 3:04pm
                       Collapse Thanks for the reply, Michelle, but you've misunderstood me... dormouse 193 5 Mon, 3:52pm
                           Collapse "I have the Power!" Otaku-sempai 191 4 Mon, 4:05pm
                               Collapse No, not necessarily.... dormouse 180 3 Mon, 6:08pm
                                   Collapse Well, it was worth a shot. Otaku-sempai 171 2 Mon, 6:34pm
                                       Collapse Don't know, but if they did.... dormouse 166 1 Mon, 6:39pm
                                           That makes me wonder Otaku-sempai 164 0 Mon, 6:44pm
                   Collapse "The Jewels, the Stone, and the Ring, and the Making of Meaning" Voronwë_the_Faithful 165 5 Mon, 7:03pm
                       Collapse Thanks for this, Voronwe... dormouse 158 3 Mon, 7:13pm
                           Collapse It is, indeed Voronwë_the_Faithful 154 2 Mon, 7:30pm
                               Collapse Straight to my wishlist! dormouse 148 1 Mon, 8:00pm
                                   Coincidentally Voronwë_the_Faithful 134 0 Mon, 8:40pm
                       "It's chief function seems to be to reveal character". I'm cool with that. greenbalrog 127 0 Mon, 9:28pm
           Collapse Your question about the Elvenking's homage is a good one.... dormouse 332 9 Mon, 8:42am
               Thanks for the reply. However, Arkenstone's disproportionate significance remains unexplained greenbalrog 296 0 Mon, 10:42am
               Collapse But Avandel 195 5 Mon, 4:08pm
                   Collapse Ah, but the line is..... dormouse 177 4 Mon, 6:26pm
                       Collapse Hmmm- I stand corrected... Avandel 85 3 Tue, 7:22am
                           Collapse If you compare the TE version of that scene with the EE.... dormouse 79 2 Tue, 7:43am
                               Well, yes, plus Bumblingidiot 145 0 Tue, 2:17pm
                               Re Thranduil - oh yes! Avandel 106 0 Wed, 7:36am
               Collapse The Great Seal Hamfast Gamgee 110 1 Mon, 11:52pm
                   Nice one! dormouse 82 0 Tue, 7:22am
       The Arkenstone is the heart of the mountain and we have seen Mountainous Rock Giants come to life squiggle 251 0 Mon, 11:10am
       Collapse I'm enjoying this conversation! Riven Delve 99 9 Wed, 11:49am
           Collapse Yes. After all... Silverlode 96 2 Wed, 12:17pm
               Collapse This also hadn't occurred to me.... dormouse 69 1 Wed, 1:50pm
                   Yep, I think "state visit" is it exactly. Silverlode 43 0 Wed, 11:44pm
           Collapse Narrative bias - excellent point Brethil 87 4 Wed, 12:49pm
               Collapse "All great Stories deserve SOME embellishment.." Bombadil 77 1 Wed, 1:30pm
                   A really good point there, Bom. Brethil 36 0 Thu, 1:14am
               Collapse Yes - I like your idea of... dormouse 70 1 Wed, 1:54pm
                 Yes - I think it changed Bilbo forever. As it was meant to. Brethil 36 0 Thu, 1:16am
           Oh - good point.... dormouse 75 0 Wed, 1:39pm

  Collapse Funeral and Chariot Scenes Laineth 516 1 Wed, 3:23pm Jump to last post in thread (by Bombadil)
       Did read this, but THANKS for Bringing it Again!// Bombadil 275 0 Thu, 1:03am

  Collapse River of Denial part 3 - more Thorin pics!!! Kilidoescartwheels 503 11 Wed, 1:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by entmaiden)
       Collapse You had me worried for a moment there... dormouse 467 2 Wed, 1:58pm
         Collapse There is No Denying, your DENIAL..? // Bombadil 422 1 Wed, 2:49pm
               NOPE! Kilidoescartwheels 394 0 Wed, 3:45pm
       Collapse Aww CathrineB 386 4 Wed, 4:05pm
         Collapse Badassery for sure Avandel 343 1 Wed, 5:06pm
               Badassery for sure! Kilidoescartwheels 333 0 Wed, 5:25pm
           Well, can't forget Fili! Kilidoescartwheels 338 0 Wed, 5:13pm
           I removed your picture entmaiden 233 0 Wed, 10:24pm
     Collapse Of course Avandel 370 2 Wed, 4:38pm
           "THORINISTA", "FILIISTA", "KILIISTA" Bombadil 318 0 Wed, 5:54pm
           Here's a sneak peek of that happy moment Loresilme 319 0 Wed, 5:55pm

  Collapse BOTFA: Lack of Army Banners on the Battlefield Arandir 460 6 Mon, 5:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by arithmancer)
       The Orcs from Dol Guldur did have banners... Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 410 0 Mon, 5:45pm
       The orcs have banners Smaug the iron 406 0 Mon, 5:51pm
       AGREED… Bracegirdle 394 0 Mon, 6:03pm
       Collapse Their were some Dwarven Banners... Hobbity Hobbit 168 2 Tue, 7:37pm
           Collapse Do you mean Smaug the iron 95 1 Wed, 4:09pm
               Must be a Dwarf banner! arithmancer 67 0 Wed, 8:24pm

  Collapse DOS: Smaugs 'cool down sound' Legolas_Shoehorn 566 18 Tue, 5:58am Jump to last post in thread (by Bishop)
       Collapse proper sound effects Mooseboy018 516 1 Tue, 6:13am
           haha! Bishop 373 0 Tue, 2:42pm
       Theres also a few times where Smaug's wing hits the floor without making a sound AshNazg 477 0 Tue, 8:11am
       Collapse Hmm. arithmancer 400 1 Tue, 1:47pm
           Same here.... dormouse 392 0 Tue, 1:57pm
       Collapse My feeling on the wilhelm withstanding...... Bishop 348 12 Tue, 3:42pm
           We must remember these are PROFESSIONALS Bombadil 335 0 Tue, 3:53pm
           Collapse Actually ... Legolas_Shoehorn 334 10 Tue, 3:59pm
               Water stored underground for a few hundred years is probably pretty cool... Bofur01 324 0 Tue, 4:03pm
               Collapse I guess that's what you'd call the biology of fantasy Bishop 315 7 Tue, 4:12pm
                   ..."they took away his front legs"...MAYBE we should ASK Bombadil 151 0 Wed, 3:28pm
                   Collapse They didn't remove Smaug's forelegs. Otaku-sempai 139 5 Wed, 4:20pm
                       Collapse This is actually not true Bishop 130 4 Wed, 4:54pm
                           Collapse It is a matter of interpretation. Otaku-sempai 128 3 Wed, 5:00pm
                               Collapse I'm just making a distinction between forearms and wings Bishop 117 2 Wed, 5:09pm
                                   Collapse Indeed. Otaku-sempai 111 1 Wed, 5:26pm
                                       I think the problem Bishop 100 0 Wed, 5:52pm
               Balrogs Mooseboy018 293 0 Tue, 5:45pm

  Collapse DAIN IRONFOOT (Soundtrack Disc 2. Track 10) grimbeorn15 606 7 May 15, 11:04pm Jump to last post in thread (by Roheryn1)
       Collapse I think you may have a point... dormouse 460 1 May 16, 9:03am
           Ironfoot Roheryn1 55 0 Wed, 5:18pm
       It was most likely intended as a credits suite Shagrat 456 0 May 16, 9:10am
       The Dain theme sounds way too fast for a funeral, the whole of it... Bofur01 450 0 May 16, 9:16am
       I'm not so sure SafeUnderHill 445 0 May 16, 9:35am
       Collapse I love Dain but I was dissapointed that he didnt have an actually Iron foot Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 179 1 Mon, 8:00am
           Isaac...IRON HILLS might imply something? Bombadil 161 0 Mon, 10:09am

  Collapse "There is no grave, no memory..." Otaku-sempai 734 18 Mon, 8:55pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse I think he mean no physical memory. Smaug the iron 683 2 Mon, 9:06pm
           I get that. Otaku-sempai 678 0 Mon, 9:10pm
           Thranduil Mooseboy018 665 0 Mon, 9:31pm
       Collapse Was she incinerated by dragon fire? For there to be no physical Eruonen 567 2 Tue, 2:07am
           Maybe the SCAR on Thranndy's Face? Bombadil 478 0 Tue, 9:42am
           The death of the Queen. Otaku-sempai 426 0 Tue, 1:38pm
       Collapse Timelines in the films are confusing.... dormouse 471 11 Tue, 10:33am
           Yes. Jackson's timeline is very confusing. Otaku-sempai 410 0 Tue, 2:04pm
           Collapse I wouldn't say they are confusing - they simply aren't present. Spriggan 313 9 Tue, 11:47pm
               Collapse Not all. Otaku-sempai 286 6 Wed, 3:09am
                   Collapse I don't think any of those. Spriggan 247 5 Wed, 7:28am
                       Collapse You are only partially correct. Otaku-sempai 238 4 Wed, 9:08am
                           Collapse Yes on that one. Spriggan 210 3 Wed, 11:08am
                               Collapse Tauriel's Age Otaku-sempai 159 2 Wed, 3:29pm
                                   Collapse Oh I fully agree. Spriggan 149 1 Wed, 3:52pm
                                       Even Tolkien intentionally left some mysteries unanswered. Otaku-sempai 147 0 Wed, 4:02pm
               Collapse I meant confusing.... dormouse 253 1 Wed, 7:03am
                   Oh I see - well yes and no. Spriggan 209 0 Wed, 11:10am
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