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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to the Hobbit Movie board! Altaira 160260 0 May 24 2008, 1:58am Jump to last post in thread (by Altaira)

  Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 116582 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:46pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

  Sticky: The Courtesy of our Halls (Discussion Guidelines) Silverlode 18308 0 Oct 12 2014, 9:41pm Jump to last post in thread (by Silverlode)

Collapse Sticky: Folks from the Uni of Waikato want to know YOUR opinion on BotFA! greendragon 4641 25 Jan 21, 4:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by elf-lady)

  Collapse An honest discussion about Alfrid Bishop 779 82 Thu, 3:05pm Jump to last post in thread (by Glorfindela)
       Collapse Well Smaug the iron 673 4 Thu, 3:15pm
           Collapse A lot of people wanted the gold / gems Bishop 662 3 Thu, 3:25pm
               Collapse Alfrid reasons Smaug the iron 609 2 Thu, 4:19pm
                   Collapse I didn't really get that at all Bishop 597 1 Thu, 4:23pm
                       I diden't mean Smaug the iron 535 0 Thu, 5:18pm
       Collapse Someone for characters to talk to... AshNazg 673 30 Thu, 3:23pm
           Collapse I agree that he is a useful tool for narrative Bishop 650 29 Thu, 3:37pm
               Collapse As I said, Alfrid's continued inclusion is to create a mirror... AshNazg 538 28 Thu, 5:24pm
                   Collapse Humor Smaug the iron 342 22 Thu, 5:41pm
                       Collapse mixed bag Mooseboy018 279 5 Thu, 7:31pm
                           Collapse I think Smaug the iron 276 4 Thu, 7:40pm
                               Collapse We can only hope! // Otaku-sempai 266 2 Thu, 7:55pm
                                   Collapse depends on which one Mooseboy018 260 1 Thu, 7:59pm
                                     Just Checked IMDB, Ryan is in a new TV Series Bombadil 246 0 Thu, 8:24pm
                               Has there been anything official on this? Bishop 265 0 Thu, 7:58pm
                       Collapse There's no justification for such an abomination, IMHO Glorfindela 202 14 Thu, 10:20pm
                           Collapse Different cinemas, perhaps? Spriggan 173 13 Thu, 11:42pm
                               Collapse In reply Glorfindela 323 12 Fri, 7:15am
                                   Collapse Also recall... Goldeneye 266 6 Fri, 1:16pm
                                       Collapse That's as may be Glorfindela 258 4 Fri, 2:19pm
                                           Collapse Nauseam is just a matter of preference. Milieuterrien 254 3 Fri, 2:33pm
                                               Collapse I don't need your (or anyone else's) 'forgiveness' Glorfindela 248 2 Fri, 3:04pm
                                                   Collapse Apology Milieuterrien 228 1 Fri, 4:15pm
                                                       No problem Glorfindela 216 0 Fri, 4:42pm
                                       mixed feelings Mooseboy018 32 0 5:37am
                                   Collapse Really? How odd! Spriggan 76 4 Sat, 8:10pm
                                       Collapse If you want to get personal… Glorfindela 76 3 Sat, 10:53pm
                                           Oh dear. My humour has been lost there. Spriggan 49 0 1:30am
                                           Collapse Something that worries me... AshNazg 52 1 1:31am
                                               PJ and comedy Glorfindela 6 0 37 mins ago
                       I'm a Brit and I thought most of the humour was spot on :) adt100 289 0 Fri, 10:55am
                   Collapse Not that I'm aware of Kilidoescartwheels 237 4 Thu, 8:41pm
                       Collapse The New Esgaroth Otaku-sempai 228 1 Thu, 8:53pm
                           Bilbo told Smaug the iron 222 0 Thu, 9:09pm
                       Collapse Read it again... Eleniel 218 1 Thu, 9:32pm
                           Okay, people Kilidoescartwheels 160 0 Fri, 12:49am
       Collapse Alfrid and the Master of Lake-town Otaku-sempai 660 2 Thu, 3:26pm
           Collapse I agree Kilidoescartwheels 531 1 Thu, 5:21pm
               Not just any Hobbit ... DanielLB 327 0 Fri, 6:34am
       Collapse Alfrid is his Foil...even when Bard First gets to Laketown... Bombadil 637 9 Thu, 3:51pm
           Collapse Jackson did it... Otaku-sempai 589 8 Thu, 4:31pm
               Collapse I agree Bishop 571 7 Thu, 4:41pm
                   Collapse Alfrid in Dale? Bombadil 565 2 Thu, 4:47pm
                       Collapse None of those things are logical or necessary to me Bishop 556 1 Thu, 4:58pm
                           Well, there is ONE more thing to consider? Bombadil 537 0 Thu, 5:16pm
                   Collapse Not this. Otaku-sempai 566 1 Thu, 4:47pm
                       Except Bishop 562 0 Thu, 4:51pm
                   Collapse His presence... arithmancer 203 1 Thu, 10:02pm
                       Foil and contrast glor 180 0 Thu, 11:10pm
       Collapse Master´s book is a perfect coda for the theme of greed Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 606 3 Thu, 4:13pm
           Collapse Well yes, some ending for the character would have been better Bishop 599 2 Thu, 4:21pm
               The ONLY reason I can think of Kilidoescartwheels 520 0 Thu, 5:33pm
               Jackson could have got rid of Alfrid, and orc chase at Laketown and still had elves in the town being canon to the book Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 300 0 Thu, 6:47pm
       Jackson usually accesses populations through two or three "avatars" Spriggan 546 0 Thu, 5:07pm
       Collapse Alfrid Goldeneye 526 4 Thu, 5:26pm
           Collapse Yeah, Stephen Fry is good at comedy! Kilidoescartwheels 517 1 Thu, 5:34pm
               Time on Screen & Logistics Bombadil 325 0 Thu, 5:57pm
           Collapse Agree with everything you said... Salmacis81 299 1 Thu, 6:50pm
               Another thought... Morthoron 280 0 Thu, 7:27pm
       Didn't mind him in DoS too much... Salmacis81 304 0 Thu, 6:45pm
       Yiesh CathrineB 245 0 Thu, 8:29pm
       Collapse I'm curious about your use of 'honest'.... dormouse 186 4 Thu, 11:12pm
           I'm one of those. Milieuterrien 166 0 Fri, 12:25am
           Collapse I don't know. Honest as in fair? Bishop 136 2 Fri, 1:45am
               Well, I'll add a comment Avandel 346 0 Fri, 2:00am
               There are historical references as well. Bombadil 350 0 Fri, 2:22am
       Collapse I have to add my opinion ... DanielLB 330 1 Fri, 6:31am
         The World of Men in the 3RD Age...? Bombadil 299 0 Fri, 10:33am
       I honestly liked him! adt100 288 0 Fri, 10:53am
       Collapse I am floored by the rationale some people are making to excuse such a horribly written character. jtarkey 157 1 Sat, 11:50am
           I don't agree that he adds nothing... AshNazg 149 0 Sat, 12:15pm
       Collapse Alfrid is one of BOTFA’s weak aspects IMO Noria 144 10 Sat, 1:07pm
           Collapse Why do Bard 'use' Alfrid ? Let's have a look. Milieuterrien 133 9 Sat, 2:43pm
               Collapse On the contrary, it is deplorable storytelling.... Morthoron 115 8 Sat, 4:51pm
                   Collapse Bard said : Milieuterrien 106 7 Sat, 5:52pm
                       Collapse You need to read the book again. Perhaps more than once... Morthoron 94 6 Sat, 6:59pm
                           Collapse Do you have any problem with Sweden Smaug the iron 88 2 Sat, 7:30pm
                               Collapse And Starling 103 1 Sat, 8:28pm
                                   Yep, proper humour is private property. Milieuterrien 76 0 Sat, 10:33pm
                           Collapse Compared to Jackson's, Tolkien's Laketown (pic) is tinier Milieuterrien 88 2 Sat, 7:34pm
                               Collapse Another example... Morthoron 73 1 Sat, 8:13pm
                                   But the orcs in Sauron's army in BotFA Bofur01 103 0 Sat, 8:27pm

  Collapse Thorin's and Bilbo's Relationship Bishop 735 27 Wed, 7:33pm Jump to last post in thread (by Mooseboy018)
       Collapse The main problem with DOS Dcole4 602 3 Wed, 8:17pm
           Collapse Re: MEM 404 2 Thu, 3:25am
               Collapse original ending Mooseboy018 393 1 Thu, 4:11am
                   Thorin and Bilbo in the original script.... Pandallo 193 0 Thu, 5:09pm
       I interpreted the relationship shadowdog 600 0 Wed, 8:20pm
       Collapse The hug-fest at the end of AUJ was misplaced. RosieLass 573 6 Wed, 8:47pm
           Collapse Slightly different take Ilmatar 529 5 Wed, 9:54pm
               Collapse And another version Avandel 239 1 Thu, 2:57pm
                   I do agree... Ilmatar 218 0 Thu, 3:44pm
               Collapse I guess what I mean is... RosieLass 73 2 Fri, 3:45pm
                   Collapse Where Smaug the iron 63 1 Fri, 4:03pm
                       He never is. Mooseboy018 11 0 5:30am
       Collapse Well CathrineB 574 4 Wed, 8:52pm
           Collapse Shipping arithmancer 536 1 Wed, 9:32pm
               Agreed re pretty graphics from shippers Avandel 360 0 Thu, 6:29am
           I might Laineth 497 0 Wed, 10:40pm
           You're not the only one... Queen of Erebor 493 0 Wed, 11:10pm
       In defense of Thorin Kilidoescartwheels 564 0 Wed, 8:58pm
       Collapse Thorin and Bilbo in AUJ arithmancer 562 1 Wed, 9:00pm
           Bilbo and Thorin's arc Mooseboy018 409 0 Thu, 2:39am
       Collapse Bilbo and Thorin´s relationship was one of the things I was completely satisfied with all the way elostirion74 527 3 Wed, 9:56pm
           Collapse Thorin's death arithmancer 465 2 Thu, 12:12am
             Collapse Bomby would hug someone who just saved my Life? Bombadil 446 1 Thu, 12:54am
                   But... arithmancer 431 0 Thu, 1:58am
       Collapse DOS EE Bilbo answers for Thorin infront the master of laketown Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 360 1 Thu, 6:28am
           That was a Key Turning Point well played... Bombadil 356 0 Thu, 6:46am
       I love it. Smaug the iron 255 0 Thu, 2:15pm

  Collapse How do you view the Hobbit trilogy next to the LOTR trilogy? Gandalf the Green 581 54 Sat, 8:25am Jump to last post in thread (by Bombadil)
       Sure CathrineB 514 0 Sat, 8:40am
       Collapse Unfitting exposition of the movie Milieuterrien 517 26 Sat, 8:49am
           Collapse ...yes, they do AshNazg 488 25 Sat, 10:50am
               Collapse Well said AshNazg! I applaud you. lionoferebor 455 2 Sat, 12:37pm
                   Collapse Indeed Gandalf the Green 439 1 Sat, 1:25pm
                     Nah! It is Told with OLD Bilbo's Fuzzy memory.... Bombadil 423 0 Sat, 1:53pm
               Collapse The absurdity of your statements shows Milieuterrien 407 21 Sat, 2:19pm
                   Collapse What on Earth are you talking about? AshNazg 391 20 Sat, 2:39pm
                       Collapse Do you belong to audiences Milieuterrien 385 19 Sat, 2:49pm
                           Collapse I didn't say that it was a box office failure... AshNazg 315 18 Sat, 4:54pm
                               exactamundo lonelymountainhermit 299 0 Sat, 5:52pm
                               Collapse It's no useful talking about generalities that could be true about any movies Milieuterrien 284 16 Sat, 6:12pm
                                   Collapse What? Mooseboy018 164 15 Sat, 9:35pm
                                       Collapse It would not be only a flash-beheading, like the ones in the movie Milieuterrien 137 14 Sat, 10:22pm
                                           Collapse Sorry but that's silly. Mooseboy018 119 13 Sat, 11:12pm
                                               Bolg Smaug the iron 113 0 Sat, 11:26pm
                                               Collapse You may criticize Milieuterrien 113 11 Sat, 11:28pm
                                                   Collapse It was testicles Glorfindela 98 1 12:06am
                                                       It was not real testicles Smaug the iron 95 0 12:12am
                                                   Collapse Funny thing about camera angles... Morthoron 93 7 12:14am
                                                       Collapse Beorn Smaug the iron 91 6 12:19am
                                                           Collapse What exactly has that to do with anything? Morthoron 90 4 12:24am
                                                               Collapse You are hating PJ Smaug the iron 87 3 12:34am
                                                                   Collapse Sorry, that is not the correct answer... Morthoron 78 1 12:47am
                                                                       I understand and respekt your opinion. Smaug the iron 75 0 12:57am
                                                                   Yeah, Morthoron! AshNazg 81 0 1:01am
                                                           People were annoyed about Tom Bombadil's exclusion too... AshNazg 83 0 12:39am
                                                   You really seem to have a problem with people having opinions. Mooseboy018 60 0 1:30am
       Collapse hmm lonelymountainhermit 348 14 Sat, 3:58pm
           Collapse Then why don't you go on a Rankin-Bass forum to celebrate it ? Milieuterrien 283 13 Sat, 6:21pm
               Collapse lol lonelymountainhermit 269 12 Sat, 6:34pm
                   Collapse Of course the point of your post Milieuterrien 260 11 Sat, 6:46pm
                       Collapse sure thing lonelymountainhermit 246 10 Sat, 7:08pm
                           Collapse Yes Smaug the iron 236 7 Sat, 7:26pm
                               Collapse .. lonelymountainhermit 233 6 Sat, 7:31pm
                                   Collapse I am a Tolkien fan! Smaug the iron 232 5 Sat, 7:33pm
                                       Collapse ? lonelymountainhermit 230 4 Sat, 7:39pm
                                           Collapse No Smaug the iron 227 3 Sat, 7:41pm
                                               Collapse ... lonelymountainhermit 226 2 Sat, 7:52pm
                                                 Collapse The Dwarves WOULD have Suffocated?.. SEALED up! Bombadil 211 1 Sat, 8:19pm
                                                     X-QUWEEZE ME..? Bombadil 191 0 Sat, 8:47pm
                           Collapse It's always fun Lindele 48 1 4:06am
                             "DITTO"...Double DITTO to the above^^^^..// Bombadil 36 0 4:28am
       Collapse I view them as a continuous sequence of films.... dormouse 251 3 Sat, 7:14pm
         Bomby will Go with our Lovely "Half-Elven" dormouse..anytime.. Bombadil 231 0 Sat, 7:39pm
           Collapse What dormouse said, every word. Noria 178 1 Sat, 9:15pm
               That's my second most disliked scene, and for the same reason.... dormouse 135 0 Sat, 10:38pm
       Just as the books really. Spriggan 203 0 Sat, 8:35pm
       This!! Avnar 192 0 Sat, 8:45pm
       Collapse I Get the 'slapstick' in the Hobbit movies & now can take the slapstick in LoTRs in a new fashion squiggle 72 4 1:06am
           Collapse This THREAD is Like an OUT-OF-CONTROL Oldsmobile..? Bombadil 53 3 2:44am
               Collapse Ad nauseam, Bombadil Milieuterrien 49 2 3:32am
                   Collapse Bashing vs Criticism Mooseboy018 46 1 4:08am
                       "Wordsmithing" is just like Any ARTFORM? Bombadil 35 0 4:45am

  Collapse Is it okay to like the movies? Kilidoescartwheels 969 33 Fri, 1:45am Jump to last post in thread (by SirDennisC)
       Collapse Misinformed here, or not up to date… for when you get off your treadmill. . . Bracegirdle 838 3 Fri, 2:18am
           Read the book three times, once when young, when I was older, and before the movies came out... Pandallo 828 0 Fri, 2:35am
           Collapse Well that wasn't my point Kilidoescartwheels 816 1 Fri, 3:13am
               In short ,my question was simply curiosity not judgmental or meant as criticism. Bracegirdle 798 0 Fri, 4:01am
       Collapse But but but ... DanielLB 770 10 Fri, 6:28am
           Wait a minute..... you LIKED that star wars prequels!?!?! adt100 670 0 Fri, 11:04am
           Collapse Minor point of correction, Daniel Otaku-sempai 521 5 Fri, 3:32pm
               Collapse From what I remember shadowdog 446 2 Fri, 5:32pm
                   Collapse 2001 Otaku-sempai 429 1 Fri, 5:53pm
                       this is correct Bishop 418 0 Fri, 6:25pm
               Collapse Bad example. DanielLB 396 1 Fri, 7:15pm
                   Gah! // Aragorn the Elfstone 346 0 Fri, 8:50pm
           Collapse Well it was mostly a rant Kilidoescartwheels 319 1 Fri, 9:39pm
               No. DanielLB 237 0 Fri, 10:02pm
           Yay Episodes I, II and III! SirDennisC 17 0 3:44am
       Collapse Of course CathrineB 720 1 Fri, 8:44am
         OKAY? Bomby's Turn.. Bombadil 680 0 Fri, 10:57am
       Collapse 'Course it is! :-) dormouse 598 1 Fri, 1:19pm
           Ooo, Ooo! Never knew the dormouse to block her spout Bracegirdle 575 0 Fri, 1:53pm
       Definitely OK Elarie 595 0 Fri, 1:22pm
       Well... Thrain II 559 0 Fri, 2:22pm
       It's OK to like (or dislike) both or either Glorfindela 557 0 Fri, 2:29pm
       Collapse I like them, too. RosieLass 526 6 Fri, 3:35pm
         Collapse Doesn't the word "Adaptation" mean Different..? Bombadil 469 5 Fri, 5:04pm
               Not "unrecognizably different." // RosieLass 384 0 Fri, 7:16pm
               Collapse Actually... lionoferebor 210 3 Sat, 1:02am
                   Collapse Wrong comparison. Otaku-sempai 125 1 Sat, 12:57pm
                       If you must know... lionoferebor 92 0 Sat, 3:58pm
                   The hobbit movies are not an adaptation on the book? Spriggan 59 0 Sat, 8:18pm
       sure lonelymountainhermit 349 0 Fri, 8:57pm
       Yes. Absolutely. Positively. Aragorn the Elfstone 258 0 Fri, 9:43pm
       Of course it is... Queen of Erebor 234 0 Fri, 10:18pm
       We might never know. Gandalf the Green 148 0 Sat, 8:29am

Collapse Favorite Deaths? Bombadil 338 9 Fri, 9:31pm Jump to last post in thread (by Bombadil)
       Collapse Smaug. Meneldor 266 6 Fri, 11:16pm
           Collapse Would you say DWALIN did the Most? Bombadil 222 5 Sat, 3:24am
               Collapse Of the Dwarves... AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 132 4 Sat, 1:55pm
                   Collapse How do they split up teamwork kills? Bofur01 130 3 Sat, 2:04pm
                       Collapse I'm Not 100% Sure AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 120 2 Sat, 2:21pm
                           Bilbo's Death TOTAL? Bombadil 106 0 Sat, 3:04pm
                         Your Total comes to 383 for the Dwarves? Bombadil 105 0 Sat, 3:15pm
     Collapse LOL Bomby Avandel 43 1 1:25am
           You KNOW..if you are CAST as an ORC..? Bombadil 26 0 3:23am

  Collapse BotFA Extended Edition Clips MedwedtoBeorn 288 5 Sat, 9:59pm Jump to last post in thread (by AshNazg)
       Why would you do that? Mooseboy018 226 0 Sat, 11:16pm
       Collapse Your title made my heart skip! AshNazg 191 3 12:15am
           Collapse I think Smaug the iron 184 2 12:23am
               Collapse I hope so. Mooseboy018 154 1 1:24am
                   My thought was the chariot scene... AshNazg 150 0 1:36am

  Collapse Hobbit Accuracy to Books vs LOTR Accuracy to Books Hobbity Hobbit 636 32 Thu, 10:20pm Jump to last post in thread (by AshNazg)
       Collapse Well, I can't agree, but... Otaku-sempai 543 1 Thu, 11:27pm
         JRRT wrote it, Sir PJ Adapted it, 80 years Later?// Bombadil 485 0 Fri, 3:37am
       Collapse Whaaaat?! AshNazg 429 17 Fri, 11:28am
           Collapse Do you honestly believe everything you just wrote? Skaan 424 15 Fri, 11:31am
               Collapse Yeah, Hobbity Hobbit 406 14 Fri, 11:58am
                   Collapse Hmmm, off the top of my head.... Morthoron 387 12 Fri, 1:07pm
                       Collapse It depends on how you measure "faithfulness" Voronwë_the_Faithful 371 9 Fri, 1:41pm
                           Collapse I understand what you're saying, V... Morthoron 361 8 Fri, 2:02pm
                               Collapse That's only one opinion Voronwë_the_Faithful 339 6 Fri, 2:55pm
                                   And Smaug the iron 333 0 Fri, 3:05pm
                                   Collapse Well, I won't defend Peter Jackson, in any case... Morthoron 264 4 Fri, 6:16pm
                                       Collapse So Smaug the iron 205 3 Fri, 7:38pm
                                           Collapse Certainly in the case of Bilbo rescuing the Dwarves from the spiders... Eleniel 195 2 Fri, 7:45pm
                                               Well Smaug the iron 186 0 Fri, 7:57pm
                                               Yes you're right Bishop 156 0 Fri, 7:59pm
                               Plus Voronwë_the_Faithful 309 0 Fri, 4:00pm
                       Characters Smaug the iron 362 0 Fri, 1:56pm
                       Radagast TheHutt 346 0 Fri, 2:45pm
                   Thranduil and Bard Otaku-sempai 323 0 Fri, 3:38pm
           Exactly lonelymountainhermit 252 0 Fri, 6:31pm
       I get what you're saying and agree about the Hobbit Elarie 366 0 Fri, 1:54pm
       Collapse Jackson took liberties with both trilogies Bishop 244 5 Fri, 7:03pm
           Collapse Bilbo Smaug the iron 218 4 Fri, 7:29pm
               Collapse I think Frodo Bishop 207 2 Fri, 7:40pm
                   Collapse Well Smaug the iron 150 1 Fri, 8:16pm
                       On comparisons Bishop 144 0 Fri, 8:27pm
               Bilbo, Frodo and "God" AshNazg 78 0 Sat, 11:43am
       Thanks Elarie! Hobbity Hobbit 215 0 Fri, 7:30pm
       For me, the Hobbit Trilogy would be more accurate to ME squiggle 126 0 Fri, 11:29pm
       Collapse I very much disagree, the LOTR films are MUCH more Tolkien-like, because Gandalf the Green 97 2 Sat, 8:08am
           Collapse Exactly this... Eleniel 47 1 Sat, 8:17pm
               I would have preferred the Dol Guldur plot... AshNazg 19 0 12:23am

  Collapse An Elvenking Perverted Otaku-sempai 882 31 May 18, 8:21pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse I've often wondered about this Bishop 720 16 May 18, 10:01pm
           Collapse I don't think we are supposed to believe that. arithmancer 699 15 May 18, 11:10pm
               Collapse Oh I think he has depth absolutely Bishop 685 14 May 18, 11:23pm
                   Collapse That did not occur to me... arithmancer 678 2 May 18, 11:33pm
                       Collapse Likewise Bishop 669 1 May 18, 11:42pm
                           Perhaps to be expanded upon in the EE Otaku-sempai 654 0 May 19, 12:45am
                   Collapse I don't think so. Laineth 301 10 Wed, 5:13pm
                       Collapse Tolkien's Thranduil. Otaku-sempai 295 9 Wed, 5:46pm
                           Collapse You're right, Laineth 116 8 Fri, 9:41pm
                               Collapse Thranduil in other times Otaku-sempai 101 7 Fri, 11:53pm
                                   Collapse Actually, Laineth 95 6 Sat, 12:16am
                                       Collapse Yes, however... Otaku-sempai 68 5 Sat, 1:54am
                                           Collapse No, Laineth 57 4 Sat, 4:10am
                                               Collapse But Thorin wsn't dwelling in that area! Eleniel 51 1 Sat, 5:40am
                                                   You're right, I had forgotten Thorin's exact age. Laineth 24 0 Sat, 4:15pm
                                               Collapse It most definitely is conceivable. Otaku-sempai 38 1 Sat, 12:35pm
                                                   You're right, Laineth 27 0 Sat, 4:13pm
       Collapse About Bard Kilidoescartwheels 526 3 Tue, 2:14pm
           The changes work within the films. Otaku-sempai 517 0 Tue, 2:26pm
           Agree Avandel 387 0 Wed, 7:45am
           You're talking of the EE when you're discussing Thranduil, right? elostirion74 183 0 Thu, 5:38pm
       Collapse Bard was very idealized in general, not only in this scene elostirion74 463 2 Tue, 8:01pm
           Collapse You know... Brandybuckled 329 1 Wed, 3:28pm
               Bard Otaku-sempai 320 0 Wed, 3:54pm
       Collapse Tauriel... Salmacis81 339 1 Wed, 2:47pm
           You do have a point. Otaku-sempai 322 0 Wed, 3:49pm
       Collapse Thranduil's Wife GrimMorwen 215 4 Thu, 2:25pm
           Collapse Elves and Death Otaku-sempai 208 1 Thu, 2:59pm
               Yes, Laineth 108 0 Fri, 10:12pm
           Collapse Yes. Laineth 109 1 Fri, 9:57pm
               Thranduil's Age Otaku-sempai 13 0 Sat, 7:05pm

Collapse A Few Reasons these 2 Trilogies are SSOo..Different? Bombadil 1189 25 May 19, 9:16am Jump to last post in thread (by Eruonen)
       You're certainly right about The Hobbit films being a tragedy... jtarkey 1044 0 Tue, 10:59am
       3 Weddings and a Funeral Kilidoescartwheels 955 0 Tue, 2:20pm
       Collapse Here's a nice comparison of the two trilogies "Style vs Function" AshNazg 862 5 Tue, 6:49pm
         Collapse AN.. your Video does bring up some Interesting points Bombadil 818 4 Tue, 8:07pm
               Collapse We have seen the movie he was destined to make... Morthoron 770 3 Tue, 9:30pm
                   Collapse Nice Opinion? Have anything more to ADD?// Bombadil 739 2 Tue, 10:05pm
                       Collapse No, nothing further presently, however... Morthoron 739 1 Tue, 10:13pm
                         Well, "Thang YOU Berry BUCH..?"// Bombadil 676 0 Wed, 12:30am
       Collapse One Trilogy was more epochal for it's time, the other is more for it's Genre squiggle 704 1 Tue, 11:43pm
         In a way? PJ invented? the GENRE... Bombadil 641 0 Wed, 3:05am
       Collapse I refuse to admit Istaris'staffs 634 13 Wed, 5:49am
           Along that that lline, The Hobbit is a single book and not a trilogy Eruonen 523 0 Wed, 4:54pm
           Collapse I can't agree Kilidoescartwheels 470 11 Wed, 9:26pm
               Collapse I guess you are completely unaware... Morthoron 444 10 Thu, 12:19am
                   Collapse MOST Excellent post! Bombadil 423 1 Thu, 1:00am
                       You think it's great that he ran me down so badly? Kilidoescartwheels 262 0 Fri, 12:31am
                   Collapse I would imagine complaints about "development" arithmancer 410 1 Thu, 1:55am
                       Thank you for that Kilidoescartwheels 267 0 Thu, 11:54pm
                   Collapse Don't be so condescending Kilidoescartwheels 281 3 Thu, 11:52pm
                       Collapse I sort of get it. Otaku-sempai 243 2 Fri, 4:25am
                           Hm, not sure what to think of that Kilidoescartwheels 131 0 Fri, 9:49pm
                           This past April...double nickle. Eruonen 46 0 Sat, 12:46am
                   Collapse A reminder... Silverlode 234 1 Fri, 8:10am
                       Silverlode says it for me Noria 151 0 Fri, 6:42pm
       Looking at an object purely via the lens of another, is it more useful 'what is' rather than 'what is not'? squiggle 416 0 Thu, 1:40am

  Collapse The Carving above the Secret Door. Otaku-sempai 359 6 Thu, 5:59pm Jump to last post in thread (by Ilmatar)
       Collapse The carving Ilmatar 287 5 Thu, 7:26pm
           Collapse Thanks for this! Otaku-sempai 278 4 Thu, 7:32pm
               Collapse No problem :) Ilmatar 269 3 Thu, 7:45pm
                   Well... Otaku-sempai 266 0 Thu, 7:53pm
                   Collapse If the idea was that the King who held the Arkenstone.... dormouse 204 1 Thu, 10:40pm
                       :) Thank you, that sounds like a logical explanation! // Ilmatar 52 0 Fri, 10:34pm

  Collapse My theory on the Watchful Peace and Angmar in the Hobbit movies ThorinsNemesis 429 18 Fri, 4:36am Jump to last post in thread (by ThorinsNemesis)
       Collapse The Watchful Peace on Film Otaku-sempai 301 17 Fri, 3:16pm
           Collapse Minas Ithil Otaku-sempai 269 16 Fri, 4:54pm
               Collapse Earnur, Minas Ithil and Angmar ThorinsNemesis 258 15 Fri, 5:35pm
                   Collapse Earnur and Fornost ThorinsNemesis 251 1 Fri, 5:53pm
                       Earnur as a Wraith Otaku-sempai 238 0 Fri, 6:11pm
                   Collapse Shadow of Mordor Otaku-sempai 247 12 Fri, 6:01pm
                     Collapse Aragorn and Earnur ThorinsNemesis 237 11 Fri, 6:13pm
                           Collapse Aragorn in the Films Otaku-sempai 228 10 Fri, 6:27pm
                               Collapse Years in the LOTR movies ThorinsNemesis 216 9 Fri, 6:40pm
                                   Collapse That is true. Otaku-sempai 213 8 Fri, 6:47pm
                                       Collapse Aragorn, Thranduil and Gandalf ThorinsNemesis 208 7 Fri, 7:00pm
                                           Collapse Aragandalf Otaku-sempai 205 6 Fri, 7:06pm
                                               Collapse Yes ThorinsNemesis 202 5 Fri, 7:18pm
                                                   Collapse No Viggo Otaku-sempai 198 4 Fri, 7:21pm
                                                       Collapse Why? ThorinsNemesis 192 3 Fri, 7:24pm
                                                           Bilbo was not de-aged with computers in FotR Otaku-sempai 186 0 Fri, 7:31pm
                                                           Collapse Some news articles say Hobbity Hobbit 180 1 Fri, 7:34pm
                                                               Yeah, probably ThorinsNemesis 172 0 Fri, 7:40pm

  Collapse On the Arkenstone... and other ramblings from the teapot dormouse 1117 61 May 16, 11:00am Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)
       Alternate Scene. Otaku-sempai 926 0 May 16, 1:02pm
       Collapse I will be surprised if the Arkenstone is not buried with Thorin Voronwë_the_Faithful 890 2 May 16, 2:45pm
           GREAT POST dmouse... Bombadil 866 0 May 16, 3:31pm
           Yes... dormouse 606 0 May 17, 8:15am
       Great Post DM Michelle Johnston 840 0 May 16, 4:41pm
     Collapse Thoughts - LOL lots of them Avandel 769 3 May 16, 7:56pm
           Collapse Dain No I won't/Yes I will. Michelle Johnston 723 1 May 16, 10:01pm
               And Dain does continue to grow as leader oliphaunt 706 0 May 16, 10:52pm
           Agree! Glassary 425 0 May 17, 9:22pm
       Collapse Here's a simple answer Kilidoescartwheels 653 8 May 17, 3:48am
           Collapse There's another factor that makes Thorin's position ambiguous.... dormouse 601 2 May 17, 8:35am
               ABSOLUTELY Correctomundo..dm Bombadil 543 0 May 17, 11:47am
               Although Avandel 508 0 May 17, 3:59pm
           Collapse Either the Arkenstone drives the plot or it doesn't. Michelle Johnston 483 4 May 17, 6:22pm
               Collapse I'm intrigued.... dormouse 469 2 May 17, 7:38pm
                   Collapse Clarification Michelle Johnston 371 1 May 18, 6:29am
                       What? Dain was at AZANULBIZAR? Bombadil 326 0 May 18, 9:27am
               It can still drive the plot Kilidoescartwheels 128 0 May 18, 9:39pm
       Collapse Why I see no loose ends in the Arkenstone plot, and what really bothers me about it greenbalrog 436 31 May 17, 9:34pm
           Collapse The Arkenstone Otaku-sempai 386 3 May 18, 5:11am
               Well said Michelle Johnston 364 0 May 18, 6:47am
               Collapse Elves "pay homage" to the Dwarfs because they are afraid of them? greenbalrog 321 1 May 18, 10:12am
                   Well... Otaku-sempai 229 0 May 18, 2:28pm
           Collapse Great Post Michelle Johnston 364 16 May 18, 6:54am
               Collapse Yes, the Arkenstone plot seems complete, but the stone's own significance isn't well explained greenbalrog 261 1 May 18, 11:10am
                   Just to quickly clarify Michelle Johnston 220 0 May 18, 3:23pm
               Collapse Ring-like and Silmaril-like..... dormouse 238 13 May 18, 1:42pm
                   Collapse "Like" not "Is" Michelle Johnston 217 6 May 18, 3:04pm
                       Collapse Thanks for the reply, Michelle, but you've misunderstood me... dormouse 201 5 May 18, 3:52pm
                           Collapse "I have the Power!" Otaku-sempai 199 4 May 18, 4:05pm
                               Collapse No, not necessarily.... dormouse 188 3 May 18, 6:08pm
                                   Collapse Well, it was worth a shot. Otaku-sempai 179 2 May 18, 6:34pm
                                       Collapse Don't know, but if they did.... dormouse 174 1 May 18, 6:39pm
                                           That makes me wonder Otaku-sempai 172 0 May 18, 6:44pm
                   Collapse "The Jewels, the Stone, and the Ring, and the Making of Meaning" Voronwë_the_Faithful 173 5 May 18, 7:03pm
                       Collapse Thanks for this, Voronwe... dormouse 166 3 May 18, 7:13pm
                           Collapse It is, indeed Voronwë_the_Faithful 162 2 May 18, 7:30pm
                               Collapse Straight to my wishlist! dormouse 156 1 May 18, 8:00pm
                                   Coincidentally Voronwë_the_Faithful 142 0 May 18, 8:40pm
                       "It's chief function seems to be to reveal character". I'm cool with that. greenbalrog 135 0 May 18, 9:28pm
           Collapse Your question about the Elvenking's homage is a good one.... dormouse 353 9 May 18, 8:42am
               Thanks for the reply. However, Arkenstone's disproportionate significance remains unexplained greenbalrog 317 0 May 18, 10:42am
               Collapse But Avandel 203 5 May 18, 4:08pm
                   Collapse Ah, but the line is..... dormouse 185 4 May 18, 6:26pm
                       Collapse Hmmm- I stand corrected... Avandel 93 3 May 19, 7:22am
                           Collapse If you compare the TE version of that scene with the EE.... dormouse 87 2 May 19, 7:43am
                               Well, yes, plus Bumblingidiot 158 0 Tue, 2:17pm
                               Re Thranduil - oh yes! Avandel 119 0 Wed, 7:36am
               Collapse The Great Seal Hamfast Gamgee 118 1 May 18, 11:52pm
                   Nice one! dormouse 90 0 May 19, 7:22am
       The Arkenstone is the heart of the mountain and we have seen Mountainous Rock Giants come to life squiggle 259 0 May 18, 11:10am
       Collapse I'm enjoying this conversation! Riven Delve 113 9 Wed, 11:49am
           Collapse Yes. After all... Silverlode 110 2 Wed, 12:17pm
               Collapse This also hadn't occurred to me.... dormouse 83 1 Wed, 1:50pm
                   Yep, I think "state visit" is it exactly. Silverlode 57 0 Wed, 11:44pm
           Collapse Narrative bias - excellent point Brethil 101 4 Wed, 12:49pm
               Collapse "All great Stories deserve SOME embellishment.." Bombadil 91 1 Wed, 1:30pm
                   A really good point there, Bom. Brethil 49 0 Thu, 1:14am
               Collapse Yes - I like your idea of... dormouse 83 1 Wed, 1:54pm
                 Yes - I think it changed Bilbo forever. As it was meant to. Brethil 49 0 Thu, 1:16am
           Oh - good point.... dormouse 89 0 Wed, 1:39pm

  Collapse Funeral and Chariot Scenes Laineth 620 1 Wed, 3:23pm Jump to last post in thread (by Bombadil)
       Did read this, but THANKS for Bringing it Again!// Bombadil 372 0 Thu, 1:03am

  Collapse River of Denial part 3 - more Thorin pics!!! Kilidoescartwheels 597 11 Wed, 1:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by entmaiden)
       Collapse You had me worried for a moment there... dormouse 554 2 Wed, 1:58pm
         Collapse There is No Denying, your DENIAL..? // Bombadil 508 1 Wed, 2:49pm
               NOPE! Kilidoescartwheels 480 0 Wed, 3:45pm
       Collapse Aww CathrineB 473 4 Wed, 4:05pm
         Collapse Badassery for sure Avandel 430 1 Wed, 5:06pm
               Badassery for sure! Kilidoescartwheels 420 0 Wed, 5:25pm
           Well, can't forget Fili! Kilidoescartwheels 425 0 Wed, 5:13pm
           I removed your picture entmaiden 320 0 Wed, 10:24pm
     Collapse Of course Avandel 457 2 Wed, 4:38pm
           "THORINISTA", "FILIISTA", "KILIISTA" Bombadil 405 0 Wed, 5:54pm
           Here's a sneak peek of that happy moment Loresilme 406 0 Wed, 5:55pm

  Collapse BOTFA: Lack of Army Banners on the Battlefield Arandir 497 6 May 18, 5:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by arithmancer)
       The Orcs from Dol Guldur did have banners... Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 442 0 May 18, 5:45pm
       The orcs have banners Smaug the iron 438 0 May 18, 5:51pm
       AGREED… Bracegirdle 426 0 May 18, 6:03pm
       Collapse Their were some Dwarven Banners... Hobbity Hobbit 200 2 Tue, 7:37pm
           Collapse Do you mean Smaug the iron 127 1 Wed, 4:09pm
               Must be a Dwarf banner! arithmancer 99 0 Wed, 8:24pm
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