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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Collapse Top five favourite scenes/moments/sequences in AUJ and top five least favourite...and why. No particular order! TheImaginator 787 20 Tue, 10:15am Jump to last post in thread (by Nira)
       Hard to choose... Kullervo 473 0 Tue, 10:46am
       Hard to choose, but: Glorfindela 447 0 Tue, 10:57am
       Here are mine Azaghâl 385 0 Tue, 12:25pm
       It's hard to choose just five favourites but harder to find five things I don't like. Noria 368 0 Tue, 12:43pm
       Hmmm Joe20 341 0 Tue, 1:04pm
       Impossible to restrict the favourites to a top five.... dormouse 319 0 Tue, 2:01pm
       My list... Eleniel 310 0 Tue, 2:18pm
       I just realized it would have been nice to see just part of one of Bilbo's many dreams Nira 287 0 Tue, 3:37pm
       Old Bilbo/Frodo Ardamírë 252 0 Tue, 4:39pm
       My top and bottom five Radagast-Aiwendil 261 0 Tue, 4:46pm
       Top five The Mitch King 225 0 Tue, 5:48pm
       Too many favorite scenes nhui06 216 0 Tue, 6:09pm
       Loved most of it. ShireHorse 190 0 Tue, 7:27pm
       my top 5 DuBekar 178 0 Tue, 8:30pm
       Hmmm... Dwarvenfury 119 0 12:33am
       Collapse Misty Mountain Song, Gandalf in Goblin Town, The Erebor Prologue. . . AinurOlorin 77 2 6:57am
           Collapse The entire Good Morning sequence, starting with The Butterfly Lusitano 34 1 3:35pm
               wasn't as I imagined it Nira 1 0 2 mins ago
       ok Elenorflower 38 0 3:22pm
       Here goes, in no particular order : Lusitano 32 0 3:32pm

  Collapse AUJ - More Likeable in Extended? vexx801 1043 38 12:45am Jump to last post in thread (by Shagrat)
       Likely JWPlatt 560 0 12:50am
       Collapse I really do think so... Aragorn the Elfstone 530 4 1:03am
           Collapse I think Mrredbirdy 374 3 5:47am
               Rushed JWPlatt 342 0 7:10am
               Collapse Seconded... Eleniel 149 1 2:41pm
                   Thirded Voronwë_the_Faithful 135 0 2:57pm
       Collapse It really depends. RosieLass 481 10 1:49am
           Collapse Quite , so Lusitano 187 9 1:39pm
               Collapse Yeah, is it too late to cut stuff out? sauget.diblosio 176 1 1:46pm
                   It may not be Lusitano 171 0 1:56pm
               Collapse I didn't even recognize you! Ardamírë 174 6 1:53pm
                   Collapse Nice to see you too Lusitano 163 5 2:00pm
                       Collapse Rrrrrrosgobel rabbits Ardamírë 146 2 2:28pm
                           Collapse We re having a joke but Lusitano 102 1 3:21pm
                               I'd not be surprised either Ardamírë 69 0 4:51pm
                       Collapse Poop JWPlatt 90 1 3:59pm
                           If this had been Lusitano 31 0 8:15pm
       I'm hoping the EE improves AUJ... Captain Salt 449 0 3:01am
       I think it will Elessar 389 0 4:53am
       Collapse A descenting voice Fredeghar Wayfarer 287 1 9:12am
           Whoops. I mean dissenting (pardon the typo) Fredeghar Wayfarer 263 0 9:26am
       EE simply has to be better Glum 205 0 1:03pm
       Collapse I'm hoping so, sauget.diblosio 200 3 1:17pm
           Collapse Hmmmm Glum 185 1 1:28pm
               All that sounds good, sauget.diblosio 177 0 1:41pm
           Azog vexx801 105 0 3:06pm
       Collapse In addition to what others have mentioned Shagrat 181 8 1:44pm
           Collapse The Balrog Taboo JWPlatt 99 7 4:09pm
               Collapse I suspect... Shagrat 81 6 4:54pm
                   Collapse But wouldt that require Dains presence at Lusitano 32 5 8:17pm
                       Collapse We didn't see him there in the film Voronwë_the_Faithful 24 4 8:25pm
                           Collapse Perhaps Lusitano 20 3 8:29pm
                               Collapse I didn't say that they will consider him having been there Voronwë_the_Faithful 21 2 8:31pm
                                   Collapse Apparently Lusitano 8 1 45 mins ago
                                       That's what I had in mind Shagrat 2 0 12 mins ago
       I guess they will explain Bilbo's initial reaction to Rivendell sycorax82 169 0 2:07pm
       Collapse The longer I can stay in Middle Earth the Better IdrilofGondolin 155 1 2:23pm
           The S-B's vexx801 117 0 3:03pm

  Collapse should the hobbit have even been made into these films? jimmyfenn 1149 47 Tue, 4:38pm Jump to last post in thread (by JWPlatt)
       Collapse I think so Glorfindela 565 1 Tue, 5:22pm
           Yup, I think you're right Old Toby 412 0 Tue, 7:19pm
       I think you are right The Mitch King 505 0 Tue, 5:34pm
       Yes Elessar 484 0 Tue, 5:47pm
       Yup! arithmancer 419 0 Tue, 6:50pm
       Collapse Jimmy, I didn't want The Hobbit made ShireHorse 461 3 Tue, 6:58pm
           Collapse Brilliantly said emre43 166 2 8:19am
               Collapse Thanks, emre. ShireHorse 157 1 10:07am
                   Hehe same here emre43 66 0 4:55pm
       Yes, I think so... dormouse 399 0 Tue, 7:20pm
       Collapse IMO it would have worked better had PJ stuck to the original plan for TH: Captain Salt 433 5 Tue, 7:28pm
           Collapse When was that the plan? arithmancer 385 2 Tue, 7:37pm
               Collapse For quite a while actually. // Captain Salt 375 1 Tue, 7:39pm
                   The bridge film lives! Darkstone 321 0 Tue, 9:30pm
           Collapse I hated the idea of a bridge film. RosieLass 300 1 Tue, 9:39pm
               They more than likely would have used the appendices for the bridge film, though... Captain Salt 181 0 2:55am
       Why not? bborchar 372 0 Tue, 8:08pm
       Yes, they should have been made. Noria 345 0 Tue, 8:40pm
       Collapse For me, it's not even that complicated. RosieLass 339 6 Tue, 9:36pm
           Indeed Lusitano 285 0 Tue, 9:54pm
           Know Versus Care JWPlatt 279 0 Tue, 10:05pm
           Collapse "badly written" demnation 209 3 2:23am
               Collapse Ha! RosieLass 158 2 6:47am
                   Collapse I see demnation 168 1 7:00am
                       Oh yes. The performances were top-notch. RosieLass 113 0 3:03pm
       Should The Hobbit Have Been Made Into These Films JWPlatt 306 0 Tue, 9:39pm
       In my opinion - no. // geordie 284 0 Tue, 9:49pm
       Collapse Yes...if only to increase the chances that The Silmarillion will never be screwed up by Hollywood malickfan 282 1 Tue, 10:20pm
           I can't speak to teenagers... arithmancer 214 0 2:18am
       Collapse No Elenorflower 153 17 11:22am
           Collapse I'm not sure about blaming WB. RosieLass 123 12 3:06pm
               Collapse Jackson seems to be now Lusitano 112 8 3:25pm
                   Collapse All I'll say Altaira 105 7 3:31pm
                       Collapse I am aware of WB's track record Lusitano 98 5 3:43pm
                           Collapse Frankly, I'm surprised Altaira 98 4 3:50pm
                               Collapse Whose Idea? JWPlatt 82 2 4:24pm
                                   Collapse Of course Altaira 79 1 4:38pm
                                       That sounds reasonable to me! Escapist 76 0 4:44pm
                               The evidence really doesn't support the idea that the 3-film split was WB's 'marching orders' Voronwë_the_Faithful 71 0 4:47pm
                       The exact same directorial style utilized in LOTR is present in TH Passagas the Brown 54 0 5:44pm
               Collapse do you think the tone Elenorflower 97 2 3:40pm
                   Collapse Why wouldn't it? bborchar 31 1 8:17pm
                       WB Wants JWPlatt 9 0 25 mins ago
           Collapse So..... dormouse 24 3 8:36pm
               Collapse fair enough Elenorflower 21 2 56 mins ago
                   Collapse I never thought I'd hear THAT said on TORn malickfan 15 1 43 mins ago
                       Reference JWPlatt 10 0 23 mins ago

  Collapse What we learned from the Desolation of Smaug Trailer News from Bree 812 12 3:39am Jump to last post in thread (by Nira)
       Collapse I loved the butterflies above all else. BoromirOfWinterfell 406 4 9:08am
           Collapse Blue/black TFP 376 3 10:14am
               Collapse We did discuss it entmaiden 299 2 1:04pm
                   Collapse Black Ham_Sammy 266 1 1:47pm
                       Bomby wantzzz to say..Thang you Berry Buch... Bombadil 200 0 3:36pm
       Collapse As I posted on the main page Azaghâl 410 1 9:58am
           Legolas takes it Aitieuriskon 183 0 4:12pm
       Thorin doesn't have Orcrist namarie 407 0 10:21am
       No mention of Smaug reveal at the end? The Grey Elf 175 0 4:17pm
       i'm glad they included Bilbo climbing ontop of the forest of mirkwood MouthofSauron 151 0 4:47pm
       Tauriel DiveTwin 100 0 6:28pm
       I think..... Nira 20 0 28 mins ago

  Collapse "I Can Put My Camera Anywhere": The Main Problem With the Hobbit Film(s) Passagas the Brown 529 15 5:36pm Jump to last post in thread (by Lusitano)
       I love Game of Thrones Shagrat 254 0 6:01pm
       I've made my peace with it... Aragorn the Elfstone 244 0 6:09pm
       Collapse Interesting ideas Lucky Luke 216 4 6:21pm
           Collapse Quality of CGI gone down? Now tell me there is a tooth fairy. Tigero 177 2 7:07pm
               I agree CathrineB 146 0 7:20pm
               CGI JWPlatt 139 0 7:26pm
           but. deskp 147 0 7:18pm
       Collapse If you are suggesting Lindele 225 6 6:34pm
           Collapse That's highly subjective... Aragorn the Elfstone 196 5 6:49pm
               Collapse Subjective or not Lindele 154 4 7:18pm
                   Agree to disagree... Aragorn the Elfstone 139 0 7:27pm
                   Collapse Yup, all the scenery is nice Tigero 131 2 7:33pm
                       Collapse But none of those things dominate the visual appearance of the show... Aragorn the Elfstone 114 1 7:45pm
                           I quite agree with you on GOT Lusitano 52 0 49 mins ago
       It's a false comparison... bborchar 75 0 8:23pm

  Collapse "new video blog in the final stages of post and out very soon!" Arthael 1803 28 Tue, 6:42am Jump to last post in thread (by Lusitano)
       YOU!!! redgiraffe 959 0 Tue, 7:13am
       Collapse Re-shooting for DoS painjoiker 960 22 Tue, 7:52am
           Collapse What a mess... xxxyyy 717 21 Tue, 2:09pm
               Collapse Cliche JWPlatt 696 20 Tue, 3:15pm
                   Collapse yes jimmyfenn 606 18 Tue, 3:31pm
                       Collapse I think it's pretty obvious Skaan 607 7 Tue, 3:45pm
                           Collapse Bad dialogue SaltedPork 215 5 12:59am
                               Collapse Better Dialog JWPlatt 214 4 1:05am
                                   Collapse LOL! Elenorflower 103 3 11:47am
                                       Collapse Nicely put! Bellerock 64 2 4:07pm
                                           thank you Elenorflower 56 0 4:48pm
                                           I concur Lusitano 25 0 8:25pm
                           Agree here. Never judge only from the trailer. xxxyyy 192 0 2:15am
                       Lines Elessar 568 0 Tue, 3:48pm
                       Collapse Sorry? dormouse 590 6 Tue, 3:51pm
                           Collapse your exscused jimmyfenn 564 5 Tue, 3:57pm
                               Collapse Only if the questioner wanted to know what the time was... dormouse 539 1 Tue, 4:01pm
                                   Passive Speech JWPlatt 517 0 Tue, 4:11pm
                               Collapse "Sorry" has a different meaning in the UK entmaiden 408 2 Tue, 6:55pm
                                   Collapse no jimmyfenn 347 1 Tue, 8:09pm
                                       That's enough of this subthread. Ataahua 332 0 Tue, 8:29pm
                       UNdoubtedly Lusitano 489 0 Tue, 4:43pm
                       I assumed The Mitch King 452 0 Tue, 5:22pm
                   Who are the hypocrites in your scenario? entmaiden 415 0 Tue, 6:53pm
       I wonder how long Ardamírë 666 0 Tue, 2:48pm
       thanks! Silmaril 626 0 Tue, 2:54pm
       wait jimmyfenn 635 0 Tue, 3:13pm
       I actually enjoy the video blogs Elenorflower 123 0 11:30am

  Collapse "The Hobbit" action sequences: physics, realism, fantasy, and suspension of disbelief arithmancer 1057 172 Mon, 6:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by bborchar)
       Stone giants vs. Goblin cavern Ardamírë 551 0 Mon, 6:22pm
       Collapse If I'm suspending my belief... bborchar 535 1 Mon, 6:27pm
           I disagree. In large part because they are existing in the same universe, and only the Wizards adn Elves AinurOlorin 70 0 5:47am
       Collapse Embellisment CaptainFaramir13 521 2 Mon, 6:32pm
           Collapse Excuses JWPlatt 496 1 Mon, 6:53pm
               There is never a happy medium with this film crew, is their dear Platt? AinurOlorin 72 0 5:50am
       My approach Elessar 466 0 Mon, 6:59pm
       Collapse Thw willing suspension of disbelief can be fragile... Otaku-sempai 465 58 Mon, 7:12pm
           Collapse Yes, but... bborchar 425 57 Mon, 7:30pm
               Collapse The common-sense ones? Otaku-sempai 401 56 Mon, 7:52pm
                   Collapse My replies... bborchar 397 55 Mon, 8:02pm
                       Collapse Magic solves many things ('though not all)... Otaku-sempai 367 17 Mon, 8:21pm
                           Collapse Well... bborchar 349 16 Mon, 8:31pm
                               Collapse Because... Otaku-sempai 324 15 Mon, 8:40pm
                                   Collapse It's magic! bborchar 293 13 Mon, 8:55pm
                                       Collapse I doubt that we are ever going to see eye-to-eye on this... Otaku-sempai 215 9 Mon, 9:14pm
                                           Collapse That's fine... bborchar 196 5 Mon, 9:21pm
                                               Collapse Tolkien does not explain "plotholes" away with magic Otaku-sempai 109 4 Tue, 11:57am
                                                   Collapse Oh yes, they do.... bborchar 103 3 Tue, 12:29pm
                                                       Collapse Actually, Gandalf's absence is explained in 'The Hobbit' Otaku-sempai 102 2 Tue, 12:37pm
                                                           Collapse Didn't write that clearly... bborchar 97 1 Tue, 1:04pm
                                                               Sure. I'll go along with that... Otaku-sempai 129 0 Tue, 6:54pm
                                           Collapse source LordGawain 197 2 Mon, 9:22pm
                                               Well Darkstone 178 0 Mon, 9:39pm
                                               Can you be more specific? Otaku-sempai 112 0 Tue, 11:43am
                                       Come on man R11 156 0 Mon, 10:01pm
                                       Collapse Yes, it is magic. That is the key. And not EVERYTHING is magic. That is important also. AinurOlorin 63 1 6:25am
                                           My point... bborchar 10 0 8:02pm
                                   Exactly. AinurOlorin 62 0 6:19am
                       Collapse The point is... Eleniel 337 13 Mon, 8:35pm
                           Collapse The Hobbit is a cartoonish kid's book... bborchar 336 6 Mon, 8:38pm
                               Collapse If you are a child reading it... Eleniel 322 5 Mon, 8:44pm
                                   Collapse Okay, but then there's a catch-22... bborchar 221 4 Mon, 9:05pm
                                       Collapse Oh, exactly...which is why Eleniel 201 1 Mon, 9:09pm
                                           I'd like to think... bborchar 208 0 Mon, 9:12pm
                                       This is the Best Description of the Problem We've Had on this Board IdrilofGondolin 212 0 Mon, 9:21pm
                                       Thats why you use the same sinister71 148 0 Mon, 10:07pm
                           Collapse Did you really find "every" scene overblown? arithmancer 328 5 Mon, 8:41pm
                               Collapse No, not everything... Eleniel 312 4 Mon, 8:49pm
                                   Collapse Well LordGawain 219 3 Mon, 8:56pm
                                       Collapse i wasn't saying it should have been the same as Moria at all! Eleniel 211 2 Mon, 9:01pm
                                           Collapse woopsie LordGawain 196 1 Mon, 9:09pm
                                               No problem! Eleniel 195 0 Mon, 9:13pm
                       Collapse IMO "it's fantasy" is not a get-out-of-free card for PJ Captain Salt 169 22 Mon, 9:52pm
                           Collapse Not really... bborchar 156 21 Mon, 9:54pm
                               Collapse My point was not about the sub-genre Captain Salt 150 20 Mon, 10:00pm
                                   Collapse Laws of physics? bborchar 145 19 Mon, 10:10pm
                                       Collapse which was Jackson's literal way of showing how light footed elves were. sinister71 134 17 Mon, 10:12pm
                                           Collapse Again... bborchar 207 16 Mon, 10:13pm
                                               Collapse But there are degrees of believability Captain Salt 195 13 Mon, 10:17pm
                                                   Collapse Just a question... bborchar 200 12 Mon, 10:18pm
                                                       Collapse If that had been IN-CHARACTER for the Elves of ME, yes, as far as the fictional world goes Captain Salt 185 8 Mon, 10:28pm
                                                           Basically... bborchar 173 0 Mon, 10:35pm
                                                           Collapse exactly sinister71 171 6 Mon, 10:37pm
                                                               Those rules... bborchar 169 0 Mon, 10:41pm
                                                               Collapse Any movie that has entmaiden 186 4 Mon, 10:54pm
                                                                   Thanks for a great laugh! It imperiled my keyboard...// arithmancer 152 0 Mon, 11:47pm
                                                                   Collapse However, an elf has certain attributes in ME, which is following the rules established Captain Salt 207 2 Tue, 2:42am
                                                                       that "one", heh. Aragorn didn't really win there. :P // Captain Salt 185 0 Tue, 3:10am
                                                                       I think the subtlety is a matter of preference entmaiden 78 0 Tue, 2:52pm
                                                       Collapse Not an Elf, but... Darkstone 124 2 Tue, 8:03pm
                                                           Heh bborchar 120 0 Tue, 8:07pm
                                                           Granted, but IMO sounds more like Leggy's horse-mounting trick from TTT Captain Salt 93 0 2:50am
                                               Collapse Depends on the snow... sinister71 189 1 Mon, 10:18pm
                                                   Not quite... bborchar 188 0 Mon, 10:25pm
                                       That was in character for Legolas, and only a slight distortion of "reality" Captain Salt 126 0 Mon, 10:12pm
       Collapse Not sure I can analyse why it all worked for me.... dormouse 454 3 Mon, 7:16pm
           I like the stage example! arithmancer 411 0 Mon, 7:38pm
           Staging JWPlatt 399 0 Mon, 7:42pm
           Changes of gear Na Vedui 351 0 Mon, 8:28pm
       Collapse I think Jackson is guilty of trying to have his cake and eat it too, sauget.diblosio 406 1 Mon, 7:48pm
           I completely agree. Elizabeth 171 0 Mon, 9:45pm
       Collapse About falling and entering in the goblin cave LordGawain 305 4 Mon, 8:52pm
           Collapse OOPS. Elizabeth 184 3 Mon, 9:38pm
               Collapse Atmosphere plays a huge part... bborchar 177 2 Mon, 9:42pm
                   Collapse But Dwarves aren't significantly more aerodynamic than Men.// Elizabeth 167 1 Mon, 9:47pm
                       They're bulkier and should be less aerodynamic, shouldn't they? Captain Salt 150 0 Mon, 9:55pm
       Collapse The film solves it's own problems!!! It's pretty perfect storytelling wise! Ibach 185 42 Mon, 10:34pm
           You know MEIGWIT 186 0 Mon, 10:41pm
           Also MEIGWIT 177 0 Mon, 10:42pm
           Collapse Yes, it is a retelling: that again, like the "it's fantasy" sentiment Captain Salt 180 16 Mon, 10:46pm
               Collapse Well MEIGWIT 169 1 Mon, 10:52pm
                   Indeed! arithmancer 142 0 Mon, 11:57pm
               Collapse That's the problem... bborchar 171 13 Mon, 10:55pm
                   Touche Ibach 153 0 Mon, 11:05pm
                   Collapse none of the dialogue is untouched, nothing is exact quotes sinister71 159 9 Mon, 11:06pm
                       There was an old lady Lusitano 149 0 Mon, 11:11pm
                       Are you talking about The Hobbit, or LOTR? entmaiden 148 0 Mon, 11:11pm
                       Collapse Screenwriting Ibach 175 1 Mon, 11:15pm
                           And if done correctly sinister71 166 0 Mon, 11:25pm
                       Collapse Not quite... bborchar 170 4 Mon, 11:25pm
                           Collapse yep you got it.... ALMOST sinister71 162 3 Mon, 11:40pm
                               Collapse Well... bborchar 145 2 Mon, 11:58pm
                                   Collapse I'm truly glad you enjoyed it sinister71 137 1 Tue, 12:19am
                                       What's real? bborchar 129 0 Tue, 1:42am
                   Collapse I was obviously referring to the CGI spectacle here, not the source material Captain Salt 153 1 Tue, 5:56am
                       The entire goblin town escape ElendilTheShort 126 0 Tue, 9:29am
           Collapse If they were separate though sinister71 177 19 Mon, 10:46pm
               Collapse Can you imagine Lusitano 167 1 Mon, 10:58pm
                   hmm Ibach 146 0 Mon, 11:09pm
               Collapse Seems to me Ibach 160 16 Mon, 11:03pm
                   Collapse And the tone for me anyways sinister71 148 13 Mon, 11:11pm
                       My only encouragement Ibach 164 0 Mon, 11:19pm
                       Collapse I disagree, regarding "showing love" to the story. Book *spoilers*! arithmancer 132 11 Tue, 12:34am
                           Collapse My problem with Azog sinister71 128 10 Tue, 12:59am
                               Collapse Yes. arithmancer 120 9 Tue, 1:19am
                                   Collapse all that needed to be done sinister71 117 8 Tue, 1:33am
                                       Would you still keep Lusitano 128 0 Tue, 1:37am
                                       Collapse I am convinced that is not why they did.// arithmancer 122 6 Tue, 1:42am
                                           Collapse from all I have read that is why they included him sinister71 118 5 Tue, 2:03am
                                               It is odd... Ardamírë 113 0 Tue, 2:08am
                                               Collapse Actually, arithmancer 112 3 Tue, 2:13am
                                                   Collapse not in the battle he didn't sinister71 99 2 Tue, 2:32am
                                                       Collapse I am aware of that. arithmancer 200 1 Tue, 2:46am
                                                           Still would have been better with the original tale which they had rights to use sinister71 196 0 Tue, 2:56am
                   Collapse Consistency of Tone and book *spoilers* arithmancer 145 1 Tue, 12:07am
                       Bilbo is multi-layered Ibach 99 0 Tue, 2:28am
           Collapse Thanks for this post! arithmancer 150 1 Mon, 11:55pm
               Of Coursh Ibach 113 0 Tue, 1:53am
           Glad to read your #3. I feel this way, too. cats16 102 0 Tue, 2:25am
       Collapse The Hobbit And The Physics of a Fall DwellerInDale 222 44 Tue, 4:25am
           Good! A Physicist! Now we have the answers. Escapist 186 0 Tue, 4:37am
           Thanks Elessar 180 0 Tue, 4:45am
           I'm not a physicist... bborchar 180 0 Tue, 4:57am
           Collapse Yes, science rocks - and science geeks rock more than most. Ataahua 180 34 Tue, 5:13am
               Collapse Thanks, I'll consider doing that (+ 1 more tidbit about scaling) DwellerInDale 167 6 Tue, 6:01am
                   Another biologist! The Mitch King 154 0 Tue, 6:34am
                   *channels Mr Burns* "Excellent." Ataahua 149 0 Tue, 6:49am
                   Collapse Presumably, Troll-bones are thicker than human bones... Otaku-sempai 112 3 Tue, 12:10pm
                       Collapse Scaling and Quadrupeds DwellerInDale 99 2 Tue, 1:06pm
                           Collapse Fair point about quadrupeds... Otaku-sempai 134 1 Tue, 6:58pm
                               Different material might be interesting. Hengist 99 0 Tue, 9:36pm
               Collapse Science JWPlatt 214 26 Tue, 3:01pm
                   Collapse Science, proof, and Gandalf and the Balrog DwellerInDale 195 9 Tue, 3:44pm
                       Collapse Agreed JWPlatt 184 8 Tue, 3:59pm
                           Collapse Yes, but... :) arithmancer 170 7 Tue, 4:31pm
                               Collapse The Difference JWPlatt 165 3 Tue, 4:39pm
                                   Collapse It had not been mentioned here yet... arithmancer 160 2 Tue, 4:55pm
                                       Collapse Gandalf JWPlatt 164 1 Tue, 9:53pm
                                           Huh? arithmancer 95 0 3:22am
                               Collapse A guess but Escapist 169 1 Tue, 4:39pm
                                   The psychological explanation is the one I am leaning towards too. arithmancer 155 0 Tue, 4:58pm
                               Perhaps cultural references have a lot to do with it DwellerInDale 172 0 Tue, 4:50pm
                   Collapse Peer review process The Mitch King 156 8 Tue, 5:56pm
                       Collapse Peer Review JWPlatt 107 7 Tue, 9:48pm
                           Collapse where critics were labeled as sexually deficient on the TORN front page Lusitano 160 1 Tue, 9:57pm
                               Entertaining Reading JWPlatt 141 0 Tue, 10:48pm
                           Well if you have something Hengist 166 0 Tue, 9:58pm
                           Collapse I think I quite agree with this The Mitch King 56 3 7:18am
                               Collapse Well as I said Hengist 47 2 9:25am
                                   Collapse Well.. JWPlatt 32 1 4:12pm
                                       Have you tried? Silverlode 18 0 6:38pm
                   Collapse Good grief Altaira 128 6 1:07am
                       Collapse The Reply JWPlatt 124 5 1:14am
                           Collapse I didn't see those words in Ataahua's post entmaiden 119 3 1:20am
                               Perspective JWPlatt 116 0 1:29am
                               Collapse Spot on Altaira 114 1 1:40am
                                   Home Page Review JWPlatt 111 0 1:55am
                           Well that's overstating the situation. Ataahua 114 0 1:27am
           Thanks so much for this! dormouse 144 0 Tue, 8:02am
           Thanks so much for this post. Noria 88 0 Tue, 2:09pm
           Collapse For me... Ardamírë 198 2 Tue, 3:02pm
               Collapse I think that for a lot of people, there isn't enough time to think or analyze as it is happening. Escapist 189 1 Tue, 3:17pm
                   Time Enough To Think JWPlatt 185 0 Tue, 3:43pm
           Cool post! arithmancer 160 0 Tue, 4:38pm
       Collapse Basically Goblin Town escape is a scene consisting of events that don´t seem to matter elostirion74 127 3 Tue, 10:33am
           Collapse Interesting! arithmancer 162 1 Tue, 4:51pm
               pacing and selecting effects to focus on elostirion74 109 0 Tue, 8:35pm
           Speeding by Na Vedui 112 0 Tue, 8:47pm
       I wonder Rostron2 182 0 Tue, 3:52pm
       Collapse I loved the action sequences in TH LordotRings93 144 1 Tue, 6:35pm
           Yes...*spoilers*(sort of) glor 134 0 Tue, 11:00pm

  Collapse Have always found this curious IdrilofGondolin 904 14 Tue, 2:04pm Jump to last post in thread (by Salmacis81)
       Collapse I always thought it referred to Arandir 542 1 Tue, 2:13pm
           Yes, this Kullervo 468 0 Tue, 2:24pm
       Collapse "This" JWPlatt 476 7 Tue, 2:25pm
           Collapse I agree arithmancer 251 6 Tue, 6:40pm
               Collapse Not sure why Gandalf is aiding Thorin in the movie Salmacis81 97 5 12:30pm
                   Collapse Gandalf's Movie Motivation arithmancer 85 4 1:22pm
                       The Enemy billzy2 61 0 2:58pm
                       Collapse Trolls, Orcs, and Mirkwood Salmacis81 49 2 4:41pm
                           Collapse I disagree... arithmancer 41 1 5:25pm
                               It doesn't preclude it, but it doesn't explain anything either... Salmacis81 21 0 7:18pm
       Collapse My guesses *some book spoilers* arithmancer 286 1 Tue, 6:37pm
           Saruman ; devious as always. billzy2 37 0 5:34pm
       I think that Galadriel is implying Escapist 93 0 12:34pm
       I think it's just a poor line Passagas the Brown 41 0 5:46pm

  Collapse What would you wish for AUJ SEE? TheHutt 726 15 Tue, 4:38pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eleniel)
       Collapse brokeback misty mountains MouthofSauron 371 2 Tue, 5:06pm
           Collapse That's the funniest thing I've read all week! BoromirOfWinterfell 91 1 9:27am
               it would also bring about a whole new meaning to Azog... MouthofSauron 42 0 4:44pm
       Collapse I would like Glorfindela 353 1 Tue, 5:06pm
           did you notice... Misty Mountain Hop 304 0 Tue, 5:37pm
       I'm a bit confused in the naming of the boxed DVD sets for The Hobbit AUJ SkaldOfTheNorse 347 0 Tue, 5:07pm
       Collapse My "wish" and what I'm realistically expecting are two different things... jtarkey 360 1 Tue, 5:09pm
           exactly: Êleniel Tindome 76 0 11:56am
       Collapse Size Shagrat 334 3 Tue, 5:16pm
           Collapse Bomby would like to remind you All? Bombadil 335 2 Tue, 5:28pm
               Collapse And the colors of the special EE DVD boxes are..... SkaldOfTheNorse 42 1 4:53pm
                   Hmmm.... Eleniel 19 0 7:06pm
       I forgot... Shagrat 287 0 Tue, 6:08pm
       I want it in the style of... LordotRings93 292 0 Tue, 6:14pm
       It's the one franchise... Rostron2 198 0 Tue, 9:56pm

  Collapse The Positive Comments Thread kareniel 1072 70 Mon, 11:53am Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)
       What I think I love most about AUJ... Kullervo 568 0 Mon, 12:28pm
       Collapse What I love most about The Hobbit so far is the acting Glorfindela 556 2 Mon, 12:34pm
           I agree that the acting was fantastic! Escapist 252 0 Mon, 6:14pm
           All of this // Faenoriel 150 0 Mon, 8:49pm
       Collapse Characters and Places arithmancer 533 1 Mon, 12:39pm
           I agree that they did a great job bringing the story to life. Escapist 246 0 Mon, 6:16pm
       For me, I bliss out on the smorgasbord of colorful characters The Grey Elf 510 0 Mon, 12:59pm
       Collapse I'll play Noria 500 1 Mon, 1:02pm
           Getting the tone right: Escapist 241 0 Mon, 6:22pm
       Thank goodness for you! dormouse 497 0 Mon, 1:10pm
       What I like about PJ's Hobbit emre43 496 0 Mon, 1:11pm
       Collapse Love returning to Middle Earth! Brethil 480 4 Mon, 1:30pm
           Collapse Me too Brethil Ham_Sammy 444 1 Mon, 2:04pm
               MF and GMcT Brethil 433 0 Mon, 2:18pm
         Collapse 'Being very restrained here' Glorfindela 407 1 Mon, 3:23pm
             Thank you for appreciating my restraint Glorfindela! ;-) Brethil 327 0 Mon, 4:31pm
       I just want to watch something fun... bborchar 461 0 Mon, 1:36pm
       Collapse For such a negative person like me it´s really hard to be positive. Symbelmine 448 4 Mon, 3:01pm
           Casting Ham_Sammy 419 0 Mon, 3:08pm
           Collapse I think it is important to have balance. Escapist 238 2 Mon, 6:42pm
               Collapse I see it a bit differently... bborchar 232 1 Mon, 6:47pm
                   good comments Old Toby 123 0 Tue, 4:47am
       PJ's Hobbit is a treat. FrogmortonJustice65 405 0 Mon, 3:11pm
       Collapse Hurrah! A positive thread! Old Toby 382 1 Mon, 3:42pm
           Count our Blessings! Bombadil 354 0 Mon, 4:12pm
       This is Refreshing and Fun IdrilofGondolin 356 0 Mon, 4:00pm
       Yay! A thread that makes sense! BoromirOfWinterfell 353 0 Mon, 4:13pm
       Love Middle-earth Elessar 323 0 Mon, 4:42pm
       Collapse I think it's fun... bborchar 317 11 Mon, 5:11pm
           Collapse LOL Ham_Sammy 306 10 Mon, 5:17pm
               Collapse It would be hilarious... bborchar 300 9 Mon, 5:19pm
                   It's book canon. Barrel-rider, and all that... ;) // arithmancer 276 0 Mon, 5:25pm
                   Collapse Smaug's Deduction Ham_Sammy 286 7 Mon, 5:34pm
                       Collapse Perfect... bborchar 267 1 Mon, 5:42pm
                           Perfect! Ham_Sammy 36 0 1:38am
                       Collapse Hahaha! Brethil 247 2 Mon, 6:09pm
                           Collapse Hehe Ham_Sammy 39 1 1:40am
                               Of course!!! Brethil 18 0 2:28pm
                       Collapse Haha, this is great The Prancing Pony 98 1 Tue, 6:54am
                           yes! Ham_Sammy 36 0 1:38am
       Collapse Positive comments Lusitano 320 3 Mon, 5:32pm
           Collapse There was nothing you liked, Lusitano? Ardamírë 270 2 Mon, 6:02pm
               Collapse Actually there is Lusitano 219 1 Mon, 8:09pm
                   I knew you had to have liked something! :-) // Ardamírë 132 0 Tue, 2:53am
       Collapse Lots to love! The Mitch King 293 1 Mon, 5:39pm
           Fascinating Mitch King! Brethil 266 0 Mon, 5:53pm
       Collapse Hmm stoutfiles 265 2 Mon, 6:05pm
           Collapse Balin Ardamírë 247 1 Mon, 6:17pm
             So true! // Brethil 233 0 Mon, 6:18pm
       Whilst the film overall is pretty flawed in my eyes, there is alot I like about it. malickfan 225 0 Mon, 7:15pm
       I am positive... Kangi Ska 232 0 Mon, 7:19pm
       Collapse An unexpected delight Ataahua 213 2 Mon, 7:33pm
           Yes Freeman was faultless (though he swears a bit too much for a hobbit...) malickfan 198 0 Mon, 7:53pm
           Bilbo's so cute you could just eat him. Ask a Troll. Brethil 114 0 Tue, 4:59am
       Everything about the Dwarves Faenoriel 175 0 Mon, 8:38pm
       Collapse My positive comment ... DanielLB 178 3 Mon, 8:45pm
           Collapse The Talking Purse saga Faenoriel 160 1 Mon, 8:48pm
               If I knew how to, I so would! DanielLB 215 0 Mon, 8:54pm
           Wow great news! malickfan 220 0 Mon, 8:51pm
       Ah, here's a good thread :) cats16 222 0 Mon, 8:53pm
       Some of my favourite things Na Vedui 213 0 Mon, 9:06pm
       Collapse Oh, I feel so much better! kareniel 217 4 Mon, 9:22pm
           Collapse I agree! Brethil 210 1 Mon, 9:24pm
               Right, Brethil! Holiday releases! Another positive thingy! // kareniel 166 0 Mon, 11:09pm
           Collapse No, thank YOU kareniel! Old Toby 113 1 Tue, 5:05am
               And the eagles, the eagles... dormouse 91 0 Tue, 8:04am
       acting, characters and places elostirion74 171 0 Mon, 11:18pm
       Even though I have my issues with AUJ... Salmacis81 169 0 Mon, 11:46pm
       Okay, I can do this, I can be positive... bungobaggins 154 0 Tue, 1:33am
       Thank you for this thread The Prancing Pony 97 0 Tue, 8:13am

  Collapse What does The Hobbit mean to you? Silverlode 598 27 Mon, 10:49pm Jump to last post in thread (by entmaiden)
       memories jimmyfenn 324 0 Mon, 10:57pm
       For me sinister71 315 0 Mon, 11:00pm
       Well, I was never all that keen on the book Glorfindela 309 0 Mon, 11:12pm
       Childlike wonder is a good start. Elizabeth 274 0 Mon, 11:48pm
       Collapse For me its a few things, and hard to sum up malickfan 270 1 Mon, 11:50pm
           Bomby is a First Responder? Bombadil 253 0 Tue, 1:05am
       A childhood love, overshadowed by LotR arithmancer 245 0 Tue, 12:54am
       Collapse everything. flameofudun 228 1 Tue, 1:20am
           I like The Hobbit RachellovesLOTR 220 0 Tue, 1:39am
       The Hobbit and me. bungobaggins 207 0 Tue, 2:15am
       I first discovered The Hobbit in the Children's section of my local library... Eleniel 178 0 Tue, 5:49am
       For me namarie 178 0 Tue, 6:34am
       Collapse I like it well enough demnation 161 1 Tue, 7:00am
           Same... bborchar 128 0 Tue, 12:32pm
       humour, Bilbo and his way of facing problems, scenery elostirion74 154 0 Tue, 8:15am
       Magic and wonder and a sense of the deep past.... dormouse 153 0 Tue, 8:35am
       to be honest when I read TH as a kid Elenorflower 128 0 Tue, 1:11pm
       I didn’t read The Hobbit as a young child and IMO that makes a huge difference Noria 115 0 Tue, 1:36pm
       It is the first real book I ever read Fàfnir 104 0 Tue, 2:14pm
       Collapse After 30 years of The Hobbit, I had a new insight today. entmaiden 117 1 Tue, 2:47pm
           yeah. hutch 64 0 Tue, 7:58pm
       For me hutch 65 0 Tue, 7:56pm
       It probably Rostron2 42 0 Tue, 10:00pm
       I simply enjoy the tale immensely. Escapist 40 0 Tue, 10:48pm
       For me Ham_Sammy 46 0 3:08am
       Collapse Great question, Silverlode! Roheryn 43 1 4:54am
           You know, I haven't read The Hobbit entmaiden 29 0 1:11pm

  Collapse Thrain resurrected by the Necromancer? CaptainFaramir13 783 23 Mon, 12:57am Jump to last post in thread (by AinurOlorin)
       What do I think? Aragorn the Elfstone 422 0 Mon, 1:05am
       Personally... Salmacis81 401 0 Mon, 1:07am
       Why would the Necromancer want to resurrect Thrain? bungobaggins 409 0 Mon, 1:09am
       Azog and Necromancer Dwarvenfury 408 0 Mon, 1:14am
       noooo jimmyfenn 367 0 Mon, 1:48am
       Nah The Mitch King 336 0 Mon, 1:55am
       Collapse More Speculation CaptainFaramir13 341 2 Mon, 2:13am
           Collapse I doubt it The Mitch King 274 1 Mon, 4:33am
               If they DO go that route, a lure/trap for Gandalf seems most likely. The AinurOlorin 273 0 Mon, 5:15am
       Collapse Not resurrected;, but reanimated... Otaku-sempai 274 3 Mon, 6:09am
           Collapse Thank you burgahobbit 157 2 Mon, 2:27pm
               Collapse Good point! CaptainFaramir13 101 1 Mon, 5:47pm
                   You're good! burgahobbit 50 0 Tue, 1:21am
       Collapse No Reasons to resurrect Thrain Mrredbirdy 254 1 Mon, 6:30am
           Not saying they shouldn't go that route, Yngwulff 217 0 Mon, 8:39am
       Collapse Too complicated... dormouse 222 1 Mon, 8:46am
           Nygromansye Yngwulff 215 0 Mon, 8:50am
       Mad Thrain nhui06 142 0 Mon, 3:45pm
       Necromancer is not per se someone who raises the dead... SkaldOfTheNorse 137 0 Mon, 4:22pm
       GOD PLEASE NO!!! sinister71 51 0 Tue, 1:34am
       all I am going to say is NO namarie 36 0 Tue, 10:12am
       Collapse Evidence DarkJackal 23 1 1:24am
           Agreed. And it is worrisome. Some of the choices they are making. . . so superflous and AinurOlorin 13 0 5:40am

  Collapse white council? trqn13 558 10 Mon, 7:18pm Jump to last post in thread (by AinurOlorin)
       Collapse I would LOVE to see Celeborn and CIRDAN make appearances, but it aint going to happen malickfan 282 3 Mon, 7:28pm
           Collapse Cirdan the shipwright? trqn13 232 2 Mon, 8:18pm
               Collapse I am Known as TORn's resident Cirdan Nut, and wrote a (very long) essay about him that may interest/bore/confuse you: malickfan 225 1 Mon, 8:25pm
                   Your essay Arandir 83 0 Tue, 8:20am
       If the Council is going to debate essentially going to war... Otaku-sempai 264 0 Mon, 7:43pm
       Collapse They were all there Kangi Ska 238 1 Mon, 8:22pm
           No one complained Lusitano 222 0 Mon, 8:25pm
       Collapse Cirdan and Glorfindel are the most blatantly missing links. AinurOlorin 186 2 Mon, 9:06pm
           Collapse Having Glorfindel showing up for a sielnt cameo would do him a diservice malickfan 172 1 Mon, 9:19pm
               That Tauriel business is not confirmed. We don't know what they are lifting. If it really is Glorfindel's lines. . . AinurOlorin 25 0 5:39am

  Collapse Iridescent Blue Butterflies DwellerInDale 904 22 Mon, 4:04am Jump to last post in thread (by Ham_Sammy)
       Doen't bother me. I am more interested in them needing to make the Blue of Gandalf's hat a touch more consistantly obvious. AinurOlorin 421 0 Mon, 5:16am
       Collapse I love the iridescent blue butterflies! Old Toby 417 7 Mon, 5:21am
           Collapse Me too. Thoromir 399 6 Mon, 5:25am
               Collapse I can't seem to edit my previous post.. Thoromir 347 5 Mon, 7:27am
                   Collapse In the book Yngwulff 353 2 Mon, 7:53am
                       Collapse Yes he did Thoromir 315 1 Mon, 9:23am
                           Well, if they are a variant form of Purple Emperor Glorfindela 293 0 Mon, 10:36am
                   Collapse Just FYI entmaiden 158 1 Mon, 5:30pm
                       Ok, thanks entmaiden ;) // Thoromir 144 0 Mon, 5:35pm
       I like the butterflies Súlimë 367 0 Mon, 7:18am
       I love the blue butterflies namarie 275 0 Mon, 11:01am
       Bending light waves to make blue The Grey Elf 206 0 Mon, 3:13pm
       So much of everything has been changed in the movies to the book... SkaldOfTheNorse 186 0 Mon, 4:08pm
       They have some of those at the conservatory here... bborchar 128 0 Mon, 6:43pm
       Potential Gandy 115 0 Mon, 7:03pm
       Video Na Vedui 111 0 Mon, 7:15pm
       Collapse Very glad they kept the scene in, but the change in colour seems like such a small pointless thing to change malickfan 122 4 Mon, 7:21pm
           Because... bborchar 120 0 Mon, 7:35pm
           Collapse So even if the technical difficulties can't be resolved, entmaiden 121 1 Mon, 7:36pm
               Well yeah I'd prefer...I just liked in The book how dark and mysterious everything seemed in Mirkwood malickfan 118 0 Mon, 7:55pm
           3D Ham_Sammy 25 0 2:22am
       Changing the color doesn't bother me sinister71 69 0 Tue, 2:11am

  Collapse A great shot of Smaug frodolives 1525 27 Mon, 8:55pm Jump to last post in thread (by Ham_Sammy)
       Good job, thanks!// Elizabeth 667 0 Mon, 9:23pm
       That grin is GREAT Brethil 713 0 Mon, 9:26pm
       Good job BilboBagshot187 644 0 Mon, 9:29pm
       Great find! sauget.diblosio 616 0 Mon, 9:44pm
       I did something like that myself :) bborchar 610 0 Mon, 10:04pm
       Collapse He looks like an ancestor of the Skull Island dinosaurs from PJ's KK, especially the V-Rex. // Captain Salt 601 4 Mon, 10:09pm
           Oh my god Lusitano 582 0 Mon, 11:07pm
           That was my thought as well upon first viewing! jtarkey 466 0 Tue, 1:04am
           Collapse I don't see it frodolives 418 1 Tue, 2:23am
               Closer to a komodo dragon Aitieuriskon 394 0 Tue, 3:00am
       Collapse Can we affirm that he has no horn ? Fàfnir 582 1 Mon, 10:20pm
           Horns in AUJ DiveTwin 134 0 Tue, 2:10pm
       Interesting – and it looks as though he will be red! Glorfindela 552 0 Mon, 10:33pm
       It's so difficult to tell whether this is going to work or not... sycorax82 558 0 Mon, 11:01pm
       That is Ziggy Stardust 454 0 Tue, 1:10am
       I'm not a fan Ardamírë 423 0 Tue, 2:56am
       Collapse Awesome tarasaurus 402 3 Tue, 3:18am
           Collapse for the heck of it... tarasaurus 429 2 Tue, 3:32am
               He looks Elessar 372 0 Tue, 4:48am
               Holy smokin' dragons! Old Toby 364 0 Tue, 5:34am
       Collapse I don't know, looks pretty awful to me... bborchar 421 2 Tue, 4:43am
           LOL!! Old Toby 366 0 Tue, 5:37am
         Sweet little puppy! Glorfindela 271 0 Tue, 9:52am
       Collapse Yes! Kullervo 351 2 Tue, 6:15am
           Collapse Looks great. Noria 202 1 Tue, 12:51pm
               Now that you mention it Kullervo 143 0 Tue, 1:51pm
       Smaug Ham_Sammy 58 0 2:21am
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