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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to the Hobbit Movie board! Altaira 143636 0 May 24 2008, 1:58am Jump to last post in thread (by Altaira)

  Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 109719 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:46pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

  Sticky: The Courtesy of our Halls (Discussion Guidelines) Silverlode 2974 0 Oct 12, 9:41pm Jump to last post in thread (by Silverlode)

Collapse Sticky: ---> OFFICIAL USER REVIEW THREAD Olorin2607 8720 247 Dec 9, 7:07pm Jump to last post in thread (by Dipling)

  Collapse Sticky: Help us Thank the entire cast & crew of 'All Six Middle-earth Films' News from Bree 216 3 Tue, 4:27am Jump to last post in thread (by Silverlode)

  Collapse Rating the LotR and Hobbit films out of 10. Bofur01 173 7 9:52pm Jump to last post in thread (by Ham_Sammy)
       Here are my ratings... ecthelionsbeard 114 0 9:54pm
       My rankings DigificWriter 109 0 9:57pm
       my rankings FrogmortonJustice65 102 0 10:03pm
       6 haarp 70 0 49 mins ago
       mine Crunchable Birdses 54 0 41 mins ago
       I have have given them in order... patrickk 18 0 7 mins ago
       Rankings Ham_Sammy 13 0 3 mins ago

  Collapse At last BOFA has reached us here in Australia.. patrickk 24 1 12 mins ago Jump to last post in thread (by Eruonen)
       Glad it finally arrived for you. Eruonen 12 0 6 mins ago

  Collapse I am still not sure exactly how Bard cobbled together a bow strong enough Eruonen 615 44 5:46am Jump to last post in thread (by Eruonen)
       Collapse Unfortunately it was an utter nonsense moment ElendilTheShort 339 2 8:18am
           Collapse It is a children's book... nicely made into a movie. mirkwoodwanderer 267 1 10:23am
               i wouldnt want my children seeing this movie due to the level of violence ElendilTheShort 252 0 10:50am
       Collapse I am certain this was a problematic non credible action sequence the 13th warrior 298 1 8:49am
           maybe not indy jones ridiculous ElendilTheShort 263 0 9:33am
       Collapse you have to stop watching the movie as an adult mirkwoodwanderer 257 1 10:24am
           The book was just fine..adults and children....black arrow into his heart. Eruonen 81 0 6:41pm
       Collapse Here is a picture of a man using a makeshift bow to shoot a talking dragon Spriggan 280 25 11:00am
           Collapse did you not realise ElendilTheShort 257 24 11:42am
               Collapse Tolkien also worked hard Roheryn 237 1 12:04pm
                   thankS ElendilTheShort 122 0 5:56pm
               Only probability rather than reality Spriggan 215 0 12:19pm
               Collapse Sure but... Arvida 191 20 12:54pm
                   Collapse Or, without leaving the scene in question, genetic language learning. Spriggan 189 19 1:11pm
                       Collapse that is a good example of a fantastical element ElendilTheShort 102 18 6:11pm
                           Collapse How is it fantastical? Spriggan 94 17 6:29pm
                               Collapse men understanding the language of birds is fantastical, i don't now how else to put it. ElendilTheShort 83 16 6:42pm
                                   Collapse Ha - so it is a free probability pass. Spriggan 140 2 7:00pm
                                       Collapse not at all ElendilTheShort 125 1 7:14pm
                                           So which is it for Bard then? Spriggan 122 0 7:19pm
                                   Collapse It showcases his narcissism and invincibility Cirashala 114 12 7:38pm
                                       Collapse yet he would have known the threat was possible ElendilTheShort 104 11 7:56pm
                                           But Girion's black arrows only knocked one scale off him Cirashala 89 0 8:14pm
                                           Collapse LOTR has the same problem. Darkstone 89 1 8:32pm
                                               that is a rather large hole in the story ElendilTheShort 58 0 9:39pm
                                           Collapse There is a difference Eruonen 79 7 8:56pm
                                               Collapse swords are ElendilTheShort 52 6 9:42pm
                                                   Collapse Orcrist however is designed with more meat at the end. Eruonen 40 5 9:54pm
                                                       Collapse the closest actual example to Orcrist would be a falchion ElendilTheShort 33 4 10:00pm
                                                           Collapse Evidently you can throw a sword Eruonen 27 3 10:03pm
                                                               Collapse take his summary with a big bag of salt ElendilTheShort 17 1 50 mins ago
                                                                   Some video attempts... Eruonen 6 0 12 mins ago
                                                               Yep!! My thoughts exactly! ecthelionsbeard 16 0 50 mins ago
       Well, as PJ said in one of the DOS appendices... Elarie 214 0 1:37pm
       Collapse Suspension of disbelief. tsmith675 168 9 2:57pm
           Collapse If you can't suspend disbelief who is at fault? Moahunter 109 7 6:13pm
               Collapse if you are forced to suspend belief ElendilTheShort 100 3 6:29pm
                   Collapse Bard's improvised bow... DigificWriter 83 2 6:41pm
                       Collapse The question concerns how he made it, it is hard to tell from the film Eruonen 79 1 6:46pm
                           Overconfidence.... DigificWriter 139 0 6:50pm
               Collapse Of course there is a limit... tsmith675 131 2 7:07pm
                   This is the point of the thread - "He made the bow and it worked. " Eruonen 123 0 7:18pm
                   one way or another that bow is as unlikely as ElendilTheShort 112 0 7:42pm
           Suspension of belief does not apply here...this is simply a Eruonen 90 0 6:45pm

  Collapse Galadriel's Power Drain? Girdle of Melian 539 24 8:16am Jump to last post in thread (by Eleniel)
       by fan boys do you mean those that wanted these characters to be more rather than less based on Tolkien ElendilTheShort 303 0 8:27am
       Collapse Pretty much bad writing based on a misinterpreted quote... Eleniel 323 14 8:28am
           Collapse first time ive heard of this quote ElendilTheShort 273 13 9:28am
               Collapse Galadriel spoke that line in the FOTR movie Tintallė 122 7 4:55pm
                   Collapse A couple of points Spriggan 114 6 5:26pm
                       Collapse ??? Tintallė 100 5 6:05pm
                           Collapse Nenya doesn't obviously have power as a direct offensive weapon. Spriggan 85 4 6:40pm
                               Collapse the elven rings were not weapons at all ElendilTheShort 81 3 6:47pm
                                   Preservation, healing, building, inspiration and defense Spriggan 71 0 7:05pm
                                   Collapse We don't know specifically the powers of Nenya, but Galadriel did Eruonen 25 1 46 mins ago
                                       That's an interesting one... Eleniel 10 0 18 mins ago
               Collapse It's around the 9 minute mark if you want to check it out... Eleniel 50 4 9:33pm
                   Collapse terrible ElendilTheShort 44 3 9:56pm
                       Collapse Well that's not clear at all. Spriggan 33 2 10:14pm
                           Collapse fair call by you in that respect ElendilTheShort 22 1 44 mins ago
                               Absolutely. Spriggan 15 0 31 mins ago
       I don't think it was bad writing at all... ecthelionsbeard 268 0 9:15am
       I think Sauron started consuming her since she entered Dol Guldur. irasel 260 0 9:51am
       Collapse I think this sort if engineer's mindset is unlikely to be any sort of clue. Spriggan 235 4 10:53am
           Collapse i think only those whose primary interest or backround is gaming would look for absolutes in any type of heirachy ElendilTheShort 214 3 11:28am
               Collapse Interpretation is just that. Spriggan 206 2 11:39am
                   Collapse using aragorns example ElendilTheShort 207 1 11:51am
                       Absolutely. Spriggan 195 0 12:05pm
       . Nerven 162 0 1:52pm

  Collapse The theatrical version is not clear on how the masses of orcs Eruonen 285 9 9:08pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eruonen)
       I am assuming the loss of their leadership signaling station Eruonen 153 0 9:28pm
       Collapse The way the battle was portrayed is one of the problems I have with the end of BOTFA. Holly Hobbit 135 1 9:43pm
           "Ravenhill had been inspired by Frozen." Funny! Eruonen 105 0 9:46pm
       I agree Ham_Sammy 79 0 10:05pm
       I actually thought the ambiguity worked out very well. Spriggan 76 0 10:10pm
       Collapse And the Fellowship was vastly outnumbered... Darkstone 64 3 52 mins ago
           Collapse amon Hen Ham_Sammy 46 1 38 mins ago
               Yep Darkstone 26 0 22 mins ago
           Aragorn arrived with more than that... Eruonen 25 0 22 mins ago

  Collapse Another versus thread maybe? Boromir2k 170 3 7:36pm Jump to last post in thread (by Darkstone)
       Collapse Working as intended. Darkstone 100 2 7:57pm
           Collapse I find the different aesthetics to be at conflict Bishop 53 1 9:36pm
               For example.... Darkstone 15 0 24 mins ago

  Collapse So where does the Morgul dagger storyline go? Annatar598 537 4 Thu, 10:10pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eleniel)
       It's just a clue that inspires Gandalf to investigate Dol Guldur isn't it? Spriggan 281 0 Thu, 10:32pm
       Storyline? Faramir5 211 0 12:39am
       Collapse The Morgal-blade Otaku-sempai 50 1 1:39pm
           Didn't Jackson say in the AUJ EE commentary... Eleniel 12 0 10:02pm

  Collapse The 171-year gap between Smaug's attack and events of The Hobbit tiamy 683 24 2:36am Jump to last post in thread (by DigificWriter)
       Yeah, it's kinda screwed up Name 386 0 2:48am
       Collapse Dwarven arhtritis dwarvenboot 328 6 4:25am
           Collapse But nowhere in the films... tiamy 315 2 4:33am
               Collapse aragorn lived to be around 200 years old ElendilTheShort 245 1 6:54am
                   The Quest for Erebor actually occurred in T.A. 2940... DigificWriter 233 0 7:30am
           Collapse Even so Name 289 2 4:48am
             "By SHIRE reckoning.?..Brandybuck or TOOK TIME...xoxoBomby//. Bombadil 259 0 5:20am
               The movie vs the book Ham_Sammy 108 0 4:05pm
       Collapse In the movieverse, isn't 60 years supposed to have passed between Smaug's attack and the Quest for Erebor? DeadRabbits 209 9 9:12am
           Collapse 2811 (TA) - Smaug conquers Eerebor? Otaku-sempai 154 8 1:31pm
               Collapse I just said this elsewhere... DigificWriter 138 7 3:03pm
                   Yes. Otaku-sempai 133 0 3:08pm
                   Collapse That still makes Thorin fairly old. Otaku-sempai 113 5 4:06pm
                       Collapse Based on what we see... DigificWriter 109 4 4:10pm
                           Collapse Rough estimates Otaku-sempai 104 3 4:16pm
                               Collapse Defining the term "young" would probably be helpful DigificWriter 100 2 4:21pm
                                   Collapse Thorin at the Sack of Erebor Otaku-sempai 97 1 4:32pm
                                       Three assumptions and a timeline guesstimate DigificWriter 79 0 6:06pm
       Collapse ages, aging, timelines Cirashala 55 5 8:01pm
           Collapse Dwalin doesn't necessarily have to be older than Thorin... DigificWriter 44 4 8:16pm
               Collapse that's fair Cirashala 38 3 8:29pm
                   Collapse If you leave Thorin's age at 195... DigificWriter 30 2 8:55pm
                       Collapse maybe Cirashala 23 1 9:07pm
                           Dwalin's age isn't that superfluous, actually... DigificWriter 12 0 9:48pm

  Collapse Musings on The Hobbit vs. LOTR Roheryn 540 12 1:23pm Jump to last post in thread (by Elanor of Rohan)
       Possibly… Glorfindela 267 0 1:55pm
     Thanks for this, Roheryn Lurker in the Mirk 246 0 2:05pm
       I do have quite a bit of gripes with these movies LoremIpsum 228 0 2:52pm
       For me, it's all about the characters Elarie 209 0 2:59pm
       I had the opposite reaction Eledhwen 203 0 3:35pm
       Collapse Saw it 10 times mirkwoodwanderer 190 1 4:16pm
           The actors in the Hobbit trilogy are better caliber than in LOTR ltnjmy 123 0 6:26pm
       Collapse You have captured EXACTLY the sentiments Tintallė 166 1 4:31pm
           that makes me cry too. Thank you mirkwoodwanderer 114 0 5:59pm
       Same here ghost_matt 148 0 4:32pm
       Great post Ro Ruxendil_Thoorg 134 0 5:07pm
       My love for Dwarves grew slowly Elanor of Rohan 37 0 9:42pm

  Collapse Thorin and Azogs final effort boldog 531 10 7:57am Jump to last post in thread (by ecthelionsbeard)
       Collapse I definitely agree Angharad73 263 1 9:18am
           Denial ain't just a river in egypt LoremIpsum 213 0 11:59am
       Best and most intense duel in the cinematic NecromancerRising 268 0 9:28am
       I didn't like it Glorfindela 230 0 11:42am
       Thorin is just fantastic mirkwoodwanderer 134 0 4:17pm
       I enjoyed the sequence Ham_Sammy 120 0 4:50pm
       I thought it was splendid. Tintallė 112 0 5:05pm
       Gripping Ruxendil_Thoorg 98 0 5:45pm
       Collapse Stupid Danielos 57 1 9:12pm
           Brutally intense... ecthelionsbeard 35 0 9:40pm

  Collapse True heroes Elanor of Rohan 940 59 Dec 20, 2:52pm Jump to last post in thread (by Cirashala)
       Thoughts mirkwoodwanderer 498 0 Dec 20, 3:11pm
       Collapse Fili's death MedwedtoBeorn 507 1 Dec 20, 3:26pm
           I think that is true mirkwoodwanderer 475 0 Dec 20, 3:27pm
       Collapse Fili's death Elarie 501 1 Dec 20, 3:30pm
           So PJ made a good point mirkwoodwanderer 485 0 Dec 20, 3:34pm
       Collapse The thematic heroism of TBotFA's climax DigificWriter 460 2 Dec 20, 4:03pm
           Collapse In a way, they both.. MasterOrc 423 1 Dec 20, 4:52pm
               Well, quite Spriggan 346 0 Dec 20, 7:14pm
       Apparently none of the big bad orcs... Miss-Merriweather 393 0 Dec 20, 5:49pm
       Collapse I think Elentari03 385 45 Dec 20, 7:09pm
           Collapse Missed that version of the film marillaraina 341 42 Dec 20, 8:58pm
               Collapse That would be the one where... Eleniel 323 2 Dec 20, 9:17pm
                   Collapse Not really supporting her case. LOL marillaraina 315 1 Dec 20, 9:51pm
                       Agree with you on all these.points... // mae govannen 193 0 Dec 21, 6:43am
               Collapse That would also be the scene.... lionoferebor 296 38 Dec 20, 10:50pm
                   No concept Miss-Merriweather 164 0 Dec 21, 5:16pm
                   Collapse Agree with this. Arveldis 114 36 Mon, 2:55am
                       Collapse maybe a bit, but DisDwarfWoman 107 1 Mon, 3:22am
                           True... lionoferebor 103 0 Mon, 3:36am
                       Collapse Exactly lionoferebor 165 4 Mon, 3:56am
                           Collapse good point DisDwarfWoman 161 3 Mon, 4:02am
                               Collapse Agreed lionoferebor 162 2 Mon, 4:09am
                                   Collapse thanks! DisDwarfWoman 159 1 Mon, 4:15am
                                       Yes... lionoferebor 157 0 Mon, 4:20am
                       Collapse subject marillaraina 160 28 Mon, 5:13am
                           Okay... lionoferebor 152 0 Mon, 8:16am
                           Collapse A brief rebuttal Arveldis 139 26 Mon, 10:12pm
                               Collapse actually, I can think of an instance Cirashala 125 22 Tue, 2:19am
                                   Collapse I knew I could count on you Arveldis 85 21 Tue, 9:57pm
                                       Thank you lionoferebor 73 0 Tue, 10:32pm
                                       Collapse lol Cirashala 74 18 Tue, 10:39pm
                                           Collapse Regarding Kili Arveldis 75 9 Tue, 11:27pm
                                               Collapse fair enough Cirashala 71 8 Tue, 11:40pm
                                                   Collapse Oh, definitely. Arveldis 54 1 Wed, 2:24am
                                                       I get you Cirashala 52 0 Wed, 2:37am
                                                   Collapse a side note Ilmatar 77 5 Wed, 8:48am
                                                       Collapse fair enough Cirashala 57 4 Wed, 9:59pm
                                                           Collapse partly agree, but then again... Ilmatar 33 1 9:51am
                                                               . Ilmatar 30 0 10:31am
                                                           Collapse . Ilmatar 9 1 8:12pm
                                                               No offense taken Cirashala 6 0 8:23pm
                                           Collapse A Good Time lionoferebor 64 7 Wed, 1:57am
                                               Collapse thanks for the insight into waking from a medical procedure Cirashala 61 6 Wed, 2:11am
                                                   Collapse I would call it proactive... lionoferebor 54 5 Wed, 2:41am
                                                       Collapse so if any of the others Cirashala 49 4 Wed, 2:43am
                                                           Collapse Okay, you got me lionoferebor 65 3 Wed, 5:14pm
                                                               Collapse I think it shows that he does think Cirashala 64 2 Wed, 9:43pm
                                                                   Collapse Yes, it is true lionoferebor 51 1 Wed, 11:18pm
                                                                       and those are all very fair :) Cirashala 53 0 Wed, 11:25pm
                                       Your conversation with Cirashala Elentari03 46 0 Wed, 8:42am
                               Collapse Exaggeration IMO marillaraina 115 2 Tue, 7:20am
                                   Collapse Actually it's Nori lionoferebor 104 1 Tue, 10:33am
                                       Thank you both Arveldis 75 0 Tue, 10:10pm
           Thank you... lionoferebor 285 0 Dec 20, 10:51pm
           Yes... but that was part of Kili's charm to be the way he was... mae govannen 213 0 Dec 21, 6:38am
       You captured my feelings perfectly. Arveldis 340 0 Dec 20, 9:20pm
       Collapse Agreed CathrineB 155 2 Dec 21, 8:27pm
           Collapse subject marillaraina 121 1 Mon, 1:59am
               Ohh I think you're right! Cirashala 150 0 Mon, 9:10am

  Collapse Do you really think that it was Galadriel vs Sauron.. erdildeniz 421 5 3:33pm Jump to last post in thread (by Ham_Sammy)
       I interpreted it in exactly the same way. Spriggan 222 0 3:48pm
       I completely missed that Tintallė 168 0 4:42pm
       . Nerven 97 0 6:45pm
       Hopefully in the EE Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth 93 0 7:16pm
       I will have to look for it Ham_Sammy 62 0 8:00pm

Collapse Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XXX VValar 326 24 9:47am Jump to last post in thread (by Ilmatar)
     Collapse *peeks from behind laptop screen* *checks left* *checks right* VValar 187 2 9:56am
         Yay, number THIRTY! On_the_partyelk 132 0 12:49pm
         *LoL* TAXXX! Definitely worth breaking out the party hats Lurker in the Mirk 123 0 1:12pm
     Collapse The gorgeous latest official Thranduil pic VValar 190 1 10:02am
           the source of the new pictures stn5 161 0 10:32am
     Collapse If you want a bit of Christmas Carols fun VValar 176 1 10:10am
           Thanks for the signal boost, VValar. And thralls... Lurker in the Mirk 122 0 1:15pm
     Collapse Reply to Lurker's last batch of season's Pretty from last thread VValar 165 1 10:17am
         Been a while since we got some FLAST eh? Lurker in the Mirk 122 0 1:14pm
     Collapse Thranduil doesn't want to listen to his son -gif. It's Xmas! VValar 176 1 10:27am
           Just SNERT! Lurker in the Mirk 123 0 1:16pm
     Collapse The BIG Three O! Lurker in the Mirk 132 4 1:07pm
           Collapse Another Pretty - armour!fan art Lurker in the Mirk 127 1 1:19pm
               Very nice mariel 67 0 5:14pm
           Where did 29 go? mariel 69 0 5:11pm
           :) Ilmatar 37 0 7:49pm
       Wow! Adrianna 114 0 2:32pm
     Way to go VValar! Eruvandi 106 0 3:00pm
       Collapse Hobbit Talk: Is Thranduil a good father? stn5 94 3 4:22pm
           Collapse I vote "good father" in that he's a work in progress Ruxendil_Thoorg 69 1 5:30pm
               Exactly! Adrianna 61 0 5:57pm
           interesting topic for sure On_the_partyelk 52 0 7:05pm
       *brings red velvet cake to Mirkwood court, curtsies before Thranduil, serves cake to Elvenking and his followers* Holly Hobbit 93 0 4:26pm
     Picking myself off the floor! Nice side by side pic! Adrianna 68 0 5:45pm

  Collapse Is BOTFA and the Hobbit trilogy really as good as we want it to be? Hobbithole 771 22 9:08am Jump to last post in thread (by Old Toby)
       Collapse Well, there's a faithful adaptation and then there's an entertaining film... Aragorn the Elfstone 451 1 9:20am
           Totally agree! Hobbithole 353 0 9:30am
       A 'faithful' adaptation would've been boring... elvish.mafia 385 0 9:36am
       yes. it is mirkwoodwanderer 327 0 10:20am
       Collapse They nailed the arkestone plot and Thorin and Bilbo's relationship LoremIpsum 359 5 10:28am
           Collapse For me Glorfindela 310 1 11:40am
               Totally this! Lurker in the Mirk 220 0 1:25pm
           Collapse Agree with Lorem Ipsum and Hammy Sammy, among others Avandel 150 2 4:08pm
               Collapse Missing characters Ham_Sammy 142 1 4:15pm
                 Thank you for your reply Avandel 104 0 5:15pm
       Hm.. Anubis 307 0 10:37am
       They are, of course, not quite as good as if I had made them myself..... Miss-Merriweather 308 0 10:53am
       I would say it was a tendency to polarisation, in both directions. Spriggan 300 0 11:11am
       "As good as"? Roheryn 222 0 1:46pm
       Not as much as there is a Lindele 204 0 2:03pm
       Of course not. tsmith675 185 0 3:00pm
       I can only say for myself Ham_Sammy 182 0 3:29pm
       Of course not! Darkstone 171 0 3:37pm
       Collapse My personal opinion and experience. NecromancerRising 158 2 4:46pm
           Collapse Beautifully said! Avandel 110 1 5:26pm
               This! Exactly. NecromancerRising 95 0 5:43pm
       Is BOTFA and the Hobbit trilogy really as good as we want it to be? Old Toby 82 0 6:43pm

  Collapse Fire and Water, or 'Twas a night of deep rumbling Ruxendil_Thoorg 195 8 5:22am Jump to last post in thread (by Ruxendil_Thoorg)
       Collapse *raving applause* BlackFox 55 1 10:50am
           *bow* Thanks so much BlackFox! Ruxendil_Thoorg 29 0 2:57pm
       Collapse *mods up* Roheryn 52 1 11:59am
           Thank you Ro! Ruxendil_Thoorg 30 0 2:56pm
       Collapse This is superb! dernwyn 31 1 3:02pm
           glad you thought so dernwyn! :) Ruxendil_Thoorg 24 0 4:26pm
       Collapse Bravo! Kim 17 1 6:15pm
           Thank you very much Kim! :) // Ruxendil_Thoorg 13 0 6:29pm
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