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  Collapse Witch King at Dol Goldur - EE? Faramir74 847 13 Jun 1, 7:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by Arannir)
       Collapse I think Smaug the iron 799 4 Jun 1, 8:03pm
         Collapse WE did see him & Radagast took his Blade Bombadil 773 3 Jun 1, 8:28pm
               Collapse Good point Faramir74 751 2 Jun 1, 8:50pm
                   It's the same Blade that stabbed Frodo. Bombadil 721 0 Jun 1, 9:31pm
                   blade Mooseboy018 600 0 Jun 2, 2:52am
       He's there DainPig 671 0 Jun 1, 10:57pm
       Collapse Did you know it's NOT the Witch King that attacks Radagast in AUJ? AshNazg 448 6 Jun 2, 3:41pm
           Um, it IS the Witchking... ThorinsNemesis 438 0 Jun 2, 3:46pm
           Collapse Probably Khamul had the "cooler" crown. Arannir 306 4 Jun 3, 8:10am
               Collapse Witchking's helmet... ThorinsNemesis 295 3 Jun 3, 8:45am
                   Collapse I know that there are logical reasons for it... Arannir 292 2 Jun 3, 8:47am
                       Collapse ROTK design ThorinsNemesis 289 1 Jun 3, 8:49am
                           I like their general look, as well. Arannir 286 0 Jun 3, 8:51am

  Collapse The three Smaug the iron 543 4 Jun 1, 2:23pm Jump to last post in thread (by Spriggan)
       Is there any reason to think they will be used? // dormouse 480 0 Jun 1, 3:42pm
       Collapse Not at all? Otaku-sempai 485 2 Jun 1, 3:44pm
           Philippa Boyens Smaug the iron 465 0 Jun 1, 4:05pm
           Although... Spriggan 405 0 Jun 1, 5:47pm

  Collapse More work needed by actors for BOFA EE? Jeffrodo 1376 36 Jun 1, 11:10am Jump to last post in thread (by Arannir)
       Collapse I wonder if... Legolas_Shoehorn 1256 25 Jun 1, 12:21pm
           Collapse I doubt it Glorfindela 1217 17 Jun 1, 1:10pm
               Collapse Oh yes! Goldeneye 1132 9 Jun 1, 2:54pm
                 Collapse Gloomily Avandel 1126 1 Jun 1, 3:02pm
                       haha Goldeneye 1118 0 Jun 1, 3:04pm
                   Collapse There is no need for you to do it anyway... // dormouse 1064 6 Jun 1, 3:48pm
                       Collapse Oh... Goldeneye 917 5 Jun 1, 5:28pm
                           Collapse You don't need to, you want to.... dormouse 881 4 Jun 1, 6:03pm
                               Collapse Well... Goldeneye 867 3 Jun 1, 6:15pm
                                   Collapse And I'd say that no one, but no one... dormouse 828 2 Jun 1, 6:44pm
                                       Collapse Again... Goldeneye 470 1 Jun 1, 7:07pm
                                           There is something intrinsic about the film makers version, particularly EE squiggle 396 0 Jun 1, 10:47pm
             Collapse *Sigh* - I wish PJ had read the critc who commented re the BOFA pace... Avandel 1133 6 Jun 1, 2:55pm
                   Collapse Yes, to this, Avandel Glorfindela 1113 5 Jun 1, 3:15pm
                       Collapse The horse Smaug the iron 1097 4 Jun 1, 3:28pm
                           Collapse Er, not on my copy of the disk Glorfindela 1002 3 Jun 1, 4:26pm
                               Collapse Well Smaug the iron 970 2 Jun 1, 4:35pm
                                   Collapse Still odd to me. Glorfindela 897 1 Jun 1, 5:42pm
                                       Gandalf dosen´t move Smaug the iron 868 0 Jun 1, 6:08pm
           It is the property of the studio(s) now....Warner, MGM, New LIne, WingNut, 3Foot 7 etc. Eruonen 1195 0 Jun 1, 1:23pm
           Collapse Why would they want to? dormouse 1072 5 Jun 1, 3:47pm
               Collapse "Couldn't be done" Arannir 305 4 Jun 2, 8:18am
                   Collapse That wasn't a quotation, Arannir, and it wasn't meant to be... dormouse 294 3 Jun 2, 9:22am
                       Collapse Nor did I think you quoted them. Arannir 279 2 Jun 2, 9:46am
                           Collapse Agreed Goldeneye 223 1 Jun 2, 3:52pm
                               Showdown Arannir 151 0 Jun 3, 8:13am
       Collapse It's an interesting idea, Jeffrodo.... dormouse 1045 2 Jun 1, 3:59pm
           Collapse Agree, once again w/ dmouse... Bombadil 1009 1 Jun 1, 4:24pm
               Also, how do we know John Howe Bombadil 981 0 Jun 1, 4:29pm
       Collapse PJ has always completed his films at the last minute Elanor of Rohan 1016 6 Jun 1, 4:25pm
           Collapse "Fix" Mooseboy018 870 3 Jun 1, 6:11pm
               Collapse Just curious... lionoferebor 375 2 Jun 1, 11:42pm
                   Collapse PJ and Graham McTavish Mooseboy018 351 1 Jun 2, 2:48am
                       Final product lionoferebor 332 0 Jun 2, 4:53am
           You are not the only one... lionoferebor 376 0 Jun 1, 11:37pm
           Finish at the last minute Kilidoescartwheels 350 0 Jun 2, 1:53am

  Collapse Gandalf's vision of Smaug through the Dol Guldur palantir? ThorinsNemesis 936 30 May 31, 7:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by Old Pilgrim)
       Collapse Here's my theory of how that scene fitted in... AshNazg 876 4 May 31, 7:48pm
           Collapse So... ThorinsNemesis 865 3 May 31, 7:58pm
               I'd love to see it! arithmancer 852 0 May 31, 8:02pm
               Collapse I really doubt we'll see it... AshNazg 853 1 May 31, 8:03pm
                   BOTFA EE ThorinsNemesis 838 0 May 31, 8:13pm
       Collapse It was scored for the DOS EE... // Bofur01 854 6 May 31, 7:59pm
           Collapse That scene might be connected with Sauron torturing Gandalf Milieuterrien 822 3 May 31, 8:39pm
               Collapse I actually didn't think about that... ThorinsNemesis 811 2 May 31, 8:47pm
                   Collapse If so, we could have a very different beginning to the EE movie Milieuterrien 798 1 May 31, 9:04pm
                       Indeed ThorinsNemesis 791 0 May 31, 9:10pm
           Collapse That's not strictly true... Shagrat 766 1 May 31, 9:51pm
               There's a look that Gandalf gives Pippin... AshNazg 759 0 May 31, 9:58pm
       Collapse It seems the Palantir was a casualty of the 3 movie split sycorax82 848 2 May 31, 8:09pm
         Collapse WOWie ! What an Amazing MOOT All of the Above are having Bombadil 686 1 Jun 1, 1:42am
               Palantir vision ThorinsNemesis 647 0 Jun 1, 4:05am
       Collapse Not a real palantir? Otaku-sempai 635 3 Jun 1, 5:08am
           Collapse Then ThorinsNemesis 630 2 Jun 1, 5:25am
               Collapse Perhaps you are right. Otaku-sempai 621 1 Jun 1, 5:41am
                   Palantir in Dol Guldur ThorinsNemesis 620 0 Jun 1, 5:52am
       Collapse The EE needs a lot of work to make BotFA a good movie. Arannir 356 8 Jun 2, 8:11am
           Collapse Despite that ThorinsNemesis 339 5 Jun 2, 10:18am
               Collapse You should :) Arannir 331 4 Jun 2, 10:56am
                 Collapse We shouldn't despair... ThorinsNemesis 324 3 Jun 2, 11:19am
                       Collapse If you really hope for it.... dormouse 151 2 Jun 2, 1:19pm
                         Collapse I always try to be positive when it comes to the Hobbit movies ThorinsNemesis 143 1 Jun 2, 1:54pm
                               Now that's what I like to hear... dormouse 138 0 Jun 2, 2:06pm
           Collapse There's almost certainly a finished version of it... Eleniel 126 1 Jun 2, 2:29pm
             There's really an almost finished version of it? ThorinsNemesis 110 0 Jun 2, 2:53pm
     Wouldn't Smaug the Tyrannical be in his Element! squiggle 336 0 Jun 2, 10:19am
       That would be great to see Old Pilgrim 23 0 Jun 17, 7:34am

  Collapse The gems of Lasgalen and the necklace of Girion AshNazg 473 6 May 31, 5:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by Milieuterrien)
       Collapse If the plot line is included... Pandallo 399 5 May 31, 7:09pm
           Collapse Ah, good point. AshNazg 375 3 May 31, 7:40pm
               Collapse The gems/Thranduil's wife arithmancer 359 2 May 31, 8:00pm
                   Going back to my Girion Necklace AshNazg 357 0 May 31, 8:06pm
                   Thranduil is the more able to help Men Milieuterrien 337 0 May 31, 8:49pm
           Much left to speculation there. Milieuterrien 370 0 May 31, 7:51pm

  Collapse Beorn's references in DOS: Extended Edition? ThorinsNemesis 959 34 May 30, 11:51am Jump to last post in thread (by ThorinsNemesis)
       Collapse Angmar's borders Otaku-sempai 875 16 May 30, 11:58am
           Collapse But... ThorinsNemesis 867 15 May 30, 12:06pm
               Collapse Angmar's borders (elaborated) Otaku-sempai 857 14 May 30, 12:18pm
                   Collapse Hmm... ThorinsNemesis 844 13 May 30, 12:34pm
                       Collapse Bilbo planting the acorn Otaku-sempai 815 12 May 30, 1:11pm
                           Collapse Thanks for the text info... ThorinsNemesis 807 11 May 30, 1:16pm
                               Collapse Raising the dead Otaku-sempai 799 10 May 30, 1:27pm
                                   Collapse So... ThorinsNemesis 791 9 May 30, 1:40pm
                                       Collapse The Nazgul in Angmar Otaku-sempai 770 8 May 30, 2:11pm
                                           Collapse The Nazgul ThorinsNemesis 761 7 May 30, 2:28pm
                                             Collapse Excellent Analysis..SSOoo..could the WitchKing? Bombadil 723 5 May 30, 3:54pm
                                                 Palantir, the Witchking ThorinsNemesis 693 0 May 30, 4:40pm
                                                   Collapse The Witch-king was also imprisoned. Otaku-sempai 629 3 May 30, 6:59pm
                                                       Collapse Sauron and Angmar ThorinsNemesis 619 2 May 30, 7:08pm
                                                           Collapse Perhaps Otaku-sempai 612 1 May 30, 7:13pm
                                                               Yeah, most likely... ThorinsNemesis 608 0 May 30, 7:17pm
                                               Beorn Otaku-sempai 629 0 May 30, 6:56pm
       Different take on it.... dormouse 636 0 May 30, 6:45pm
       Collapse How Old is Beorn Supposed to Be? MyWeeLadGimli 527 7 May 30, 11:40pm
           Collapse Beorn's age Otaku-sempai 520 6 May 31, 12:16am
               Beorn ThorinsNemesis 458 0 May 31, 6:46am
               Collapse Geas and the Battle of the Five Armies? ThorinsNemesis 432 4 May 31, 8:19am
                   Collapse "...he is under no enchantment but his own." Otaku-sempai 392 3 May 31, 11:08am
                       Collapse Harmed someone who he cated about... ThorinsNemesis 358 2 May 31, 12:31pm
                           Collapse Maybe Otaku-sempai 238 1 May 31, 12:46pm
                               Well... ThorinsNemesis 236 0 May 31, 12:56pm
       Collapse This reference appears again and again... Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 216 6 May 31, 4:12pm
           Collapse Sauron? ThorinsNemesis 199 4 May 31, 4:56pm
               Collapse I think you're assuming too much about the meaning of dormouse 176 3 May 31, 5:33pm
                   Collapse Well... ThorinsNemesis 172 2 May 31, 5:40pm
                       Collapse Sauron ruling ME darthgandalf99 82 1 Jun 2, 3:55pm
                           But ThorinsNemesis 73 0 Jun 2, 5:40pm
           "Not since a darker power ruled these lands." Otaku-sempai 135 0 Jun 1, 5:27am
       I think it's definitely Sauron Bishop 191 0 May 31, 5:02pm

  Collapse What if The Master of Laketown had taken Alfrid's role in BOFA? Goldeneye 954 62 May 29, 7:54pm Jump to last post in thread (by KingTurgon)
       No Glorfindela 818 0 May 29, 8:05pm
       Alfrid is probably worse than Jar Jar Binks Gandalf the Green 804 0 May 29, 8:39pm
       Collapse Well, it can't be much worse than the version we are given. DanielLB 777 18 May 29, 9:55pm
           Collapse Well said Daniel Michelle Johnston 493 17 May 30, 3:47pm
               Collapse All that would have been great Milieuterrien 474 16 May 30, 4:31pm
                   Collapse Then it's a shame... DanielLB 459 14 May 30, 5:43pm
                       Collapse Nothing new here Milieuterrien 430 13 May 30, 6:35pm
                           Collapse You know... Otaku-sempai 409 10 May 30, 7:21pm
                               Collapse If so, why do children know so much about fairy tales, Milieuterrien 467 8 May 30, 7:37pm
                                   Collapse Blame Victoria Otaku-sempai 453 6 May 30, 7:46pm
                                       Collapse Blame victorian attitude ? Milieuterrien 397 5 May 30, 10:54pm
                                           Collapse That sounds like an ancient complaint. Otaku-sempai 387 4 May 31, 12:09am
                                               Collapse Your answer illustrates what I say Milieuterrien 360 2 May 31, 7:19am
                                                   Collapse The Scientific Method Otaku-sempai 315 1 May 31, 11:21am
                                                       Sure ! Milieuterrien 307 0 May 31, 11:26am
                                               Historical accuracy Glorfindela 342 0 May 31, 7:45am
                                   I think you misunderstand DanielB's use of 'shame'. Ataahua 421 0 May 30, 9:16pm
                               Indeed – that's so true Glorfindela 452 0 May 30, 7:46pm
                           Collapse LOL. There's no point preaching to me. DanielLB 448 1 May 30, 8:09pm
                               I don't see in the Battle of the Five Armies Milieuterrien 392 0 May 31, 12:04am
                   Disagree Goldeneye 285 0 May 31, 1:40pm
       Collapse Two things. And some more. Milieuterrien 773 1 May 29, 10:11pm
           MOST EXCELLENT post Bombadil 655 0 May 30, 5:09am
       Collapse Both characters... Avnar 709 1 May 30, 1:10am
           I preferred Jar Jar to Alfird KingTurgon 62 0 Jun 5, 9:23pm
       In order to provide more insight into Bard's character Loresilme 710 0 May 30, 1:29am
       Collapse I enjoy Alfrid squiggle 689 2 May 30, 3:15am
           huh? Goldeneye 676 0 May 30, 3:34am
           I can't tell if you love Alfrid or hate him Bishop 663 0 May 30, 4:13am
       Collapse I seem to be in the minority Turnip Head 663 3 May 30, 4:58am
         Collapse WE have been OVER this Before..In Fact another Bombadil 660 2 May 30, 5:06am
               Collapse Bomby, you know the rules. entmaiden 516 1 May 30, 3:19pm
                   Sorry. Bombadil 499 0 May 30, 3:39pm
       Collapse He couldn't have taken Alfrid's role dormouse 626 26 May 30, 7:38am
           Collapse Getting the Master out of the way meant having Bard in charge Milieuterrien 608 14 May 30, 8:24am
               Collapse These last posts by dmouse & Milie couldn't Bombadil 542 11 May 30, 2:24pm
                   Collapse Did Alfrid advance any plot though? Goldeneye 279 10 May 31, 1:52pm
                       Collapse Ah story telling pay off Michelle Johnston 212 9 May 31, 4:19pm
                           Collapse Yes.... dormouse 187 8 May 31, 5:45pm
                               Collapse Toned down, maybe but... Milieuterrien 169 7 May 31, 7:13pm
                                   Collapse Not for me. DanielLB 251 6 Jun 1, 9:09am
                                       Collapse Seconded Glorfindela 210 5 Jun 1, 1:11pm
                                           Collapse Same here.... dormouse 191 4 Jun 1, 3:41pm
                                               Collapse No more Alfrid please Elanor of Rohan 172 2 Jun 1, 4:27pm
                                                   Collapse Reconstruction? Otaku-sempai 157 1 Jun 1, 6:25pm
                                                       No, I don't Elanor of Rohan 152 0 Jun 1, 6:46pm
                                               Alrid has more potential for an Arc than the Master squiggle 121 0 Jun 2, 5:50am
               Collapse Yes, I agree. Hobbity Hobbit 532 1 May 30, 2:30pm
                   Yes, PJ kept Bard's 'coming from nowhere' Milieuterrien 516 0 May 30, 3:03pm
           Collapse Use your imagination! Goldeneye 277 10 May 31, 2:05pm
               Collapse WHy... arithmancer 269 2 May 31, 2:17pm
                   Collapse Yes, and that's how Alfrid functions as a foil for Bard Milieuterrien 255 1 May 31, 2:38pm
                       re: Goldeneye 237 0 May 31, 2:59pm
               Collapse I am using my imagination.... dormouse 242 5 May 31, 3:12pm
                   Collapse Really though Goldeneye 145 1 May 31, 8:58pm
                       No, not incorrect at all... dormouse 311 0 May 31, 10:49pm
                   Collapse If the Master had survived... Otaku-sempai 274 2 Jun 1, 5:37am
                       Collapse Well yes, I think so.... dormouse 258 1 Jun 1, 7:23am
                           Master of The Lake Michelle Johnston 223 0 Jun 1, 12:22pm
               My imagination is just fine, I think. Spriggan 158 0 May 31, 8:01pm
       Who knows? The two characters would fulfil very different roles. Spriggan 320 0 May 31, 11:09am
       Bard didn't mind having authority over Alfrid in BoTF Armies, i think he enjoyed it squiggle 304 0 May 31, 11:21pm

  Collapse Lake-men and Bilbo planting the acorn in Dale? ThorinsNemesis 827 28 May 29, 1:19pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse Planting the acorn! Loresilme 737 1 May 29, 1:35pm
           Acorn; and Lake-men ThorinsNemesis 728 0 May 29, 1:39pm
       Collapse It would be funny Milieuterrien 693 1 May 29, 2:42pm
           Yes, really funny ThorinsNemesis 665 0 May 29, 3:22pm
       Collapse Some discrepancies seem to be there Milieuterrien 644 12 May 29, 4:08pm
           Collapse I don't find Tolkien's interpretation realistic ThorinsNemesis 620 11 May 29, 4:38pm
               Collapse According to Bilbo Smaug the iron 605 8 May 29, 4:42pm
                   Collapse FOTR and the Hobbit ThorinsNemesis 597 7 May 29, 5:00pm
                       Collapse He maybe mean Smaug the iron 592 5 May 29, 5:13pm
                           Collapse Not sure in the movies, but possible ThorinsNemesis 579 4 May 29, 5:25pm
                               Dale was rebuilt first Smaug the iron 565 0 May 29, 5:34pm
                               Collapse Both were rebuilt, IMO. arithmancer 543 2 May 29, 5:58pm
                                   IMMIGRATION! YES.. Bombadil 530 0 May 29, 6:13pm
                                   They were both rebuilt in time, that's for sure ThorinsNemesis 521 0 May 29, 6:17pm
                       Bomby's Guess? Since Bard is the ONLY Heir of Girion.. Bombadil 583 0 May 29, 5:27pm
               Collapse I really don't know Milieuterrien 576 1 May 29, 5:29pm
                   Laketown and Dale ThorinsNemesis 554 0 May 29, 5:47pm
       Collapse It is very possible. Otaku-sempai 504 8 May 29, 6:57pm
           Collapse Dale and Laketown rebuilt ThorinsNemesis 490 7 May 29, 7:13pm
               Collapse Thanks. Otaku-sempai 480 6 May 29, 7:21pm
                   Collapse I read it somewhere... ThorinsNemesis 472 5 May 29, 7:25pm
                       No; Tolkien never indicated that. Otaku-sempai 447 0 May 29, 7:50pm
                       Collapse "..To Re-build Esgaroth 10 Times over!" Bombadil 447 3 May 29, 8:00pm
                           Collapse Um...Bomby? Otaku-sempai 151 2 May 29, 11:47pm
                               Collapse Wrong, NOT according to Karen's Atlas. Bombadil 135 1 May 30, 2:58am
                                   Bomby? They were BOTH Esgaroth Otaku-sempai 100 0 May 30, 11:43am
       Collapse But... CathrineB 387 1 May 29, 10:49pm
           Bilbo plants the acorn in Dale because... ThorinsNemesis 124 0 May 30, 5:27am

  Collapse The Peter Jackson Film School? Bumblingidiot 846 11 May 29, 11:14am Jump to last post in thread (by dormouse)
       I know what this is Glorfindela 635 0 May 29, 8:09pm
       HAHAHA this is great stuff Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 486 0 May 30, 10:35am
       lol lonelymountainhermit 449 0 May 30, 2:02pm
       Fictional and offensive Milieuterrien 442 0 May 30, 2:44pm
       Collapse Excellent idea, Bumblingidiot... dormouse 381 4 May 30, 7:12pm
           Collapse I don't think that's important. Bumblingidiot 130 3 Jun 3, 11:31am
               Collapse Do you not? dormouse 125 2 Jun 3, 12:46pm
                   Collapse From the perspective of the person doing it, sure.. Bumblingidiot 117 1 Jun 3, 2:18pm
                       Yes - to everything you say... dormouse 116 0 Jun 3, 2:27pm
       Well... Elarie 247 0 Jun 1, 11:43am
       Entry requirements: Spriggan 215 0 Jun 1, 5:31pm

  Collapse DOS: Feast of Starlight ... A potential great scene Legolas_Shoehorn 935 8 May 27, 8:48pm Jump to last post in thread (by DainPig)
       I also regret the absence of that scene Milieuterrien 863 0 May 27, 9:03pm
       Agree... that's for sure an head-scratcher // xxxyyy 843 0 May 27, 9:16pm
       Collapse I think there is no gonna be a debate in this :) Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 813 2 May 27, 9:54pm
         Collapse Maybe PJ will show Deleted Scenes in the EE Extras? Bombadil 751 1 May 28, 1:05am
               Let's Adrianna 743 0 May 28, 1:28am
       Collapse Nope, can't say I care about a Feast of Starlight scene. Noria 596 1 May 28, 12:18pm
         PJ did make a comment why they left it out.. Bombadil 506 0 May 28, 5:16pm
       Why not? DainPig 168 0 Jun 1, 10:46pm

  Collapse Funeral Smaug the iron 1256 48 May 27, 6:26pm Jump to last post in thread (by DainPig)
       Collapse Bilbo & Gandalf for sure Kilidoescartwheels 1096 3 May 27, 6:51pm
           Collapse *snigger* Avandel 1035 1 May 27, 8:19pm
               The Funeral Roheryn1 571 0 May 28, 6:46pm
           Legolas Mooseboy018 904 0 May 28, 12:02am
       Collapse Tauriel Goldeneye 1086 12 May 27, 6:59pm
         Collapse Yes Avandel 1016 9 May 27, 8:47pm
               Collapse I can see it now... CathrineB 971 3 May 27, 9:52pm
                   Collapse There is one...maybe two Avandel 869 2 May 28, 1:57am
                       Tauriel Mooseboy018 856 0 May 28, 2:36am
                       Yeah but CathrineB 754 0 May 28, 10:08am
               Collapse Grumblings over ROTK lionoferebor 922 4 May 27, 11:37pm
                   Collapse I'm Negative Nancy now, but.. CathrineB 913 3 May 27, 11:56pm
                       Collapse I was somewhat Hopeful Holly... lionoferebor 523 2 May 28, 11:35pm
                           Collapse Pestimistic, really ? Milieuterrien 475 1 May 29, 9:17am
                               I like the word but my post has been edited by something else than me. Milieuterrien 434 0 May 29, 2:45pm
           Collapse Please no Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf 968 1 May 27, 9:57pm
             Expect the Unexpected, that's Bomby's Mantra../// Bombadil 922 0 May 27, 11:08pm
       Mmm! Adrianna 891 0 May 28, 12:43am
       Many funerals to dispatch Milieuterrien 707 0 May 28, 12:39pm
       Collapse Well Shagrat 699 19 May 28, 1:51pm
           Collapse Image too big. Otaku-sempai 670 7 May 28, 2:18pm
               Collapse Resized. dernwyn 584 6 May 28, 4:09pm
                   Collapse Hmmm Avandel 372 5 May 30, 12:32am
                       Collapse And the party dernwyn 305 4 May 30, 1:29pm
                           *Grins* Avandel 248 0 May 30, 5:58pm
                           Collapse A River runs through it Kim 235 2 May 30, 6:12pm
                             Collapse There would have been fireworks, too... Avandel 191 1 May 30, 9:24pm
                                   Loving this scenario :D Ilmatar 136 0 May 31, 10:35pm
           Collapse Why would you expect Thranduil to be there with none of his people? dormouse 645 10 May 28, 3:05pm
               Collapse Well a few guards perhaps... Shagrat 632 7 May 28, 3:12pm
                   Collapse Well yes.... dormouse 612 6 May 28, 3:33pm
                       Collapse Well that's why I mentioned Thranduil Shagrat 602 5 May 28, 3:45pm
                           Collapse Fair enough.... dormouse 590 4 May 28, 4:03pm
                               Collapse That she has an expressed concern with them burying Kili Shagrat 587 3 May 28, 4:08pm
                                   Collapse Huh? arithmancer 606 2 May 28, 4:21pm
                                       Collapse Not if she is uncomfortable with the idea of the Dwarves burying Kili according to their custom Shagrat 600 1 May 28, 4:24pm
                                           If no Elves are there probably not. arithmancer 594 0 May 28, 4:27pm
               Collapse Because of the book? Otaku-sempai 609 1 May 28, 4:16pm
                   Sorry, what I meant was.... dormouse 607 0 May 28, 4:24pm
       Collapse No Elves, I would imagine Glorfindela 381 5 May 29, 11:28pm
           Collapse Digression: Elves at Helm's Deep Otaku-sempai 376 4 May 29, 11:53pm
               Collapse Sorry, but I disagree Glorfindela 347 3 May 30, 9:19am
                   Collapse Yeah me too CathrineB 336 2 May 30, 10:11am
                       A matter of convenience? Glorfindela 322 0 May 30, 10:48am
                       Maybe overanalyzing? Kilidoescartwheels 290 0 May 30, 1:47pm
       Collapse I wouldn't mind Tauriel attending and having a minimal role as part of Thranduil's guard MatthewJer18 246 1 May 30, 5:59pm
           Given the TE, I don't see Tauriel among Thranduils guards Milieuterrien 213 0 May 30, 7:08pm
       My opinion DainPig 92 0 Jun 1, 11:21pm

  Collapse We're forgetting an audience... Hobbity Hobbit 1967 94 May 26, 9:58pm Jump to last post in thread (by Milieuterrien)
       Collapse Count me as a ridiculous adult! Kilidoescartwheels 1647 1 May 26, 10:20pm
           PJ is a Father, Fran is a Mother & Philippa is TOO! Bombadil 1633 0 May 26, 10:27pm
       Collapse An inspiration for feminists. RosieLass 1646 7 May 26, 10:29pm
           Collapse Yes, she was an inspiration Elarie 1633 3 May 26, 11:04pm
               @ HobbitCon in Germany? Bombadil 1578 0 May 27, 12:29am
               Yeah, Hobbity Hobbit 1526 0 May 27, 2:24am
               Certainly. RosieLass 438 0 May 27, 5:06pm
           Collapse Strange when you think it was predominantly written by two women // AshNazg 1554 2 May 27, 1:06am
               Collapse I don't think so.... Avandel 1536 1 May 27, 2:22am
                   Well.. Hobbity Hobbit 1520 0 May 27, 2:42am
       Collapse Oh please... Morthoron 1573 2 May 27, 1:00am
           Collapse Hey, Which movie did you see ? Milieuterrien 1256 1 May 27, 3:08pm
             Even Leggy? couldn't "Handle". Bolg in Laketown? Bombadil 1208 0 May 27, 3:59pm
       I wouldn't minded Tauriel so much ... MEM 1476 0 May 27, 5:03am
       Collapse On the broad point, I think it is a good one. Spriggan 1430 3 May 27, 8:13am
           Collapse ISN'T 700 YEARS, a mere 7 Blinks in eyes of an Elf? Bombadil 1382 2 May 27, 10:49am
               Elven Maturity Otaku-sempai 1255 0 May 27, 2:47pm
               lol Loresilme 398 0 May 29, 2:05pm
       One problem CathrineB 1383 0 May 27, 10:54am
       Collapse Yes, I think you're right... dormouse 1369 42 May 27, 11:26am
           Collapse Oh, poor Tauriel! Kilidoescartwheels 1284 7 May 27, 2:28pm
               Collapse Fili and Kili being woman would have been cool Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 447 3 May 27, 4:59pm
                   LOL! Kilidoescartwheels 430 0 May 27, 5:21pm
                   Collapse They Sort of Already Did AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 382 1 May 27, 7:27pm
                       Not really Otaku-sempai 351 0 May 27, 8:48pm
               Collapse Well, to get more specific.... Avandel 378 1 May 27, 7:29pm
                   I agree with this: Arveldis 274 0 May 31, 1:06am
               Not ridiculous at all... dormouse 310 0 May 27, 10:33pm
           Collapse It's not the fact that she fell in love that is the problem. RosieLass 444 33 May 27, 5:03pm
               Same goes to guys Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 436 0 May 27, 5:08pm
               Collapse You'd like the new "Mad Max" movie then Kilidoescartwheels 428 30 May 27, 5:22pm
                   I haven't seen it. RosieLass 398 0 May 27, 6:32pm
                   Collapse Mad Max's Furiosa had one VERY crucial advantage over The Hobbit's Tauriel! marary 333 28 May 27, 9:50pm
                       Modernity vs. Tolkiennernity marary 322 0 May 27, 10:22pm
                       Collapse The Hobbit and the Bechdel test Milieuterrien 295 26 May 27, 11:38pm
                           Collapse Mad Max v. Hobbit Kilidoescartwheels 280 25 May 28, 1:27am
                               Collapse In French, spiders are female, that's it. Milieuterrien 472 24 May 28, 8:04am
                                   Bwahahahahaha Kilidoescartwheels 439 0 May 28, 1:49pm
                                   Let's not be overly literal! Otaku-sempai 435 0 May 28, 2:24pm
                                   Collapse What? Glorfindela 424 21 May 28, 2:59pm
                                       Collapse Don't get fooled, it was just an attempt ... Milieuterrien 406 20 May 28, 3:49pm
                                           Collapse They say that English is the most difficult language to learn. RosieLass 405 19 May 28, 4:01pm
                                               Collapse As far as I'm concerned, Milieuterrien 400 5 May 28, 4:20pm
                                                   Collapse Haha! RosieLass 373 4 May 28, 5:10pm
                                                       Collapse Haha indeed Kilidoescartwheels 336 3 May 28, 6:45pm
                                                           Collapse Back to the spot, Milieuterrien 312 2 May 28, 7:55pm
                                                               Collapse Oh, now you're REALLY asking for it! Kilidoescartwheels 307 1 May 28, 8:17pm
                                                                   Indeed… Glorfindela 275 0 May 28, 10:37pm
                                               Collapse The Slavonic languages are tricky Glorfindela 391 12 May 28, 4:23pm
                                                   Maybe because it's simple on crucial points Milieuterrien 382 0 May 28, 4:37pm
                                                   Collapse Money Avandel 384 10 May 28, 4:40pm
                                                       Collapse I think what makes English difficult RosieLass 379 8 May 28, 5:07pm
                                                           Collapse Spelling, also. arithmancer 365 1 May 28, 5:16pm
                                                               Indeed, no. 2 Glorfindela 273 0 May 28, 10:41pm
                                                           Collapse Because English formed as a combination of other languages. Silverlode 294 2 May 28, 9:46pm
                                                               Collapse Then there's this: Ataahua 268 1 May 28, 10:56pm
                                                                   Yes... Silverlode 244 0 May 29, 12:52am
                                                           Collapse This is so true… Glorfindela 280 2 May 28, 10:34pm
                                                               Collapse One of my favourites is ... DanielLB 217 1 May 29, 6:51am
                                                                   That's a good one Glorfindela 190 0 May 29, 8:52am
                                                     Bomby spends SOME Time on a Search Engine? Bombadil 240 0 May 29, 12:55am
               Well, yes.... dormouse 320 0 May 27, 10:17pm
       Collapse So Tauriel is there as some kind of social enginery? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1195 23 May 27, 4:19pm
           Collapse The main necessity is to have some elf character embodied on screen Milieuterrien 1183 22 May 27, 4:31pm
               I understand that, but a single movie, with that ride you mention works. Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1169 0 May 27, 4:40pm
               Collapse Mostly true. Otaku-sempai 1169 4 May 27, 4:45pm
                   Collapse Imagine they would had used the characters of the book to flesh out more story Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 446 3 May 27, 4:57pm
                       Agreed. Otaku-sempai 435 0 May 27, 5:08pm
                       Well they DID flesh out two of them Kilidoescartwheels 396 0 May 27, 6:41pm
                       Nice comments IMO and interesting Avandel 359 0 May 27, 8:02pm
               Collapse Social Engineering is a phrase with a specific meaning, Bumblingidiot 444 15 May 29, 10:24am
                   Collapse Propaganda is more specific than social engineering Milieuterrien 437 14 May 29, 10:51am
                       Collapse Yes, and in this context both are applicable - which is why I used both terms. Bumblingidiot 432 13 May 29, 12:05pm
                           The authors' stated reasons... arithmancer 430 0 May 29, 12:11pm
                           Collapse If your purpose is to say : Milieuterrien 408 11 May 29, 1:20pm
                               Collapse Aren´t we talking about Tauriel? elostirion74 366 4 May 29, 6:08pm
                                   Collapse Why do pretend that Tauriel is there only for engineering and not for storytelling ? Milieuterrien 356 3 May 29, 6:50pm
                                       Collapse And the relevance of all these questions are? elostirion74 320 2 May 29, 11:52pm
                                           As I understood, Milieuterrien 318 0 May 30, 12:29am
                                           Tauriel stuff slotted in great, just a tad underdeveloped squiggle 245 0 May 31, 6:04am
                               Collapse "My purpose" is to say what I said, not what I didn't say. Bumblingidiot 127 5 Jun 3, 2:47pm
                                   Collapse I said 'if' you said... Milieuterrien 110 4 Jun 3, 10:49pm
                                       Collapse And who said you did say that???? Bumblingidiot 101 3 Jun 4, 3:47pm
                                           Collapse Same for you : Milieuterrien 95 2 Jun 4, 6:58pm
                                               Collapse Good grief! - I've just spotted your reply - you can't even quote yourself accurately, let alone anyone else.. Bumblingidiot 57 1 Jun 8, 9:51pm
                                                   So you didn't say it implicitly Milieuterrien 44 0 Jun 9, 6:01pm
       It's not about forgetting the audience. Bumblingidiot 1187 0 May 27, 4:28pm
       Collapse I wonder which Tauriel's character trait ignites the fandom spark Milieuterrien 413 2 May 27, 6:16pm
         Collapse Some lines in the Movie say she was "Isolated"... Bombadil 404 1 May 27, 6:31pm
             OTHER.. WayCOOL Qualities Tauriel has? Bombadil 283 0 May 27, 11:44pm
       Collapse We are forgeting the teens have and NEED a sense of reality Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 240 1 May 28, 7:27am
           Kids do have a sense of reality Milieuterrien 239 0 May 28, 7:45am
       How? In what way? elostirion74 379 0 May 29, 5:43pm
       well said swordwhale 186 0 Jun 1, 5:07pm

  Collapse Five factors that hurt the Hobbit films Goldeneye 1871 74 May 26, 5:53pm Jump to last post in thread (by Laineth)
       Collapse Well... Thrain II 1605 1 May 26, 6:34pm
           Is that actually true? Otaku-sempai 1601 0 May 26, 6:41pm
       Collapse Oh, I love a good debate! Kilidoescartwheels 1597 7 May 26, 6:57pm
           Collapse Ditto, ditto, ditto Avandel 1493 6 May 26, 8:35pm
               Not sure I agree completely shadowdog 1429 0 May 26, 10:03pm
               Collapse Army of Elves Ilmatar 428 4 May 27, 8:18pm
                   Collapse They did have real elf armys Smaug the iron 416 3 May 27, 8:50pm
                       Collapse Thanks for the links Ilmatar 400 2 May 27, 9:17pm
                           The Awesome Elf Helmets hid Most Everything Bombadil 382 0 May 27, 11:06pm
                           Gotta put some screen caps up Avandel 297 0 May 28, 4:24pm
       Collapse Well...... dormouse 1541 5 May 26, 8:03pm
         Collapse LOL Dormouse - well said and thanks for this (: Avandel 1475 3 May 26, 9:01pm
               Bomby Agrees with Everyone here EXCEPT the OP.. Bombadil 1458 0 May 26, 9:34pm
               Collapse 'Buzz' Otaku-sempai 1366 1 May 26, 11:55pm
                   It's the way articles are written in the press Avandel 1340 0 May 27, 12:48am
           Agreed! Laineth 69 0 Jun 5, 6:57am
       For Me AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 1437 0 May 26, 10:02pm
       I'm not sure splitting into 3 was such a bad thing... AshNazg 1336 0 May 27, 1:12am
       Collapse Five factors that help and hinder The Hobbit trilogy. DanielLB 1249 43 May 27, 6:51am
           I agree with much of what you say, DanielB Glorfindela 1198 0 May 27, 8:00am
           Collapse Word!! Eleniel 1120 36 May 27, 1:00pm
               Collapse So far as I can see no one is wading anywhere.... dormouse 1101 34 May 27, 1:37pm
                   Collapse Will try to answer the CGI question Kilidoescartwheels 1034 29 May 27, 2:51pm
                       I would wait to see the EE Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 541 0 May 27, 4:30pm
                       Collapse Thank you! dormouse 398 27 May 27, 10:55pm
                           Collapse The Elves over Dwarves scene Kilidoescartwheels 373 26 May 28, 1:04am
                               Collapse Yes.... dormouse 347 25 May 28, 7:00am
                                   Collapse I think it very much could have been done! Bishop 235 24 May 29, 5:36am
                                       Collapse The use of that Viggo quote... Bofur01 216 13 May 29, 8:05am
                                           Collapse Did he? Avandel 208 2 May 29, 8:39am
                                               Collapse I'm 98% sure, that it was said... Bofur01 595 1 May 29, 9:24am
                                                   Maybe he did say it to PJ, but why not saying it mainstream ? Milieuterrien 572 0 May 29, 11:30am
                                           Collapse I agree that it was unbecoming Bishop 554 9 May 29, 2:05pm
                                               Collapse Objective Gandalf the Green 536 1 May 29, 2:57pm
                                                   ... Bishop 526 0 May 29, 3:07pm
                                               Collapse Sorry, I couldn't find it. I'm hoping some others will remember though? // Bofur01 517 6 May 29, 3:10pm
                                                   Collapse No worries Bishop 517 5 May 29, 3:13pm
                                                       Collapse I guess that what VM said has something to do with what he feels Milieuterrien 515 4 May 29, 3:24pm
                                                           Collapse There's no question Bishop 508 3 May 29, 3:34pm
                                                               Collapse And intelligent Avandel 502 2 May 29, 4:20pm
                                                                   Collapse great thoughts Bishop 479 1 May 29, 5:52pm
                                                                       Thank you! and nice! Avandel 434 0 May 29, 11:57pm
                                       Collapse But why... Avandel 210 8 May 29, 8:36am
                                           Collapse When he specifically stated... RosieLass 364 7 May 30, 4:20pm
                                               Collapse But - I really don't know what to think.... Avandel 346 6 May 30, 5:19pm
                                                   Collapse It may happen that VM could have been contacted, Milieuterrien 332 5 May 30, 7:18pm
                                                       Collapse the forbidden word.... Avandel 300 4 May 30, 9:39pm
                                                           Collapse Yes, Avandel Glorfindela 280 3 May 30, 11:05pm
                                                               Collapse Agree - LOL Avandel 224 2 May 31, 4:56pm
                                                                 You are more generous than me, Avandel Glorfindela 207 0 May 31, 5:12pm
                                                                   King Elessar the Storyteller Otaku-sempai 159 0 Jun 1, 5:49am
                                       yessiree lonelymountainhermit 306 0 May 30, 8:46pm
                   Collapse I beg to differ... Eleniel 1019 3 May 27, 3:20pm
                       Collapse Fair enough, I'm sorry.... dormouse 509 2 May 27, 5:17pm
                           Collapse Thanks - and I'm not saying categorically there's anything wrong with it... Eleniel 487 1 May 27, 5:42pm
                               Well yes... dormouse 475 0 May 27, 6:17pm
               I think Bofur01 1070 0 May 27, 1:48pm
           Collapse Allegedly Superfluous Characters Otaku-sempai 1012 4 May 27, 3:22pm
               Collapse Superfluous in the sense ... DanielLB 553 3 May 27, 4:29pm
                   Collapse Well... Otaku-sempai 540 2 May 27, 4:36pm
                       Collapse Yes. Even a Talking Purse. / DanielLB 524 1 May 27, 4:41pm
                           I do like you, Daniel... Otaku-sempai 520 0 May 27, 4:48pm
       Responding to the thread in general, my own factors would be entirely different. Spriggan 1062 0 May 27, 2:05pm
       Collapse The only factors that matter are... sycorax82 1041 1 May 27, 2:27pm
           Studio issues Goldeneye 992 0 May 27, 3:29pm
       Collapse I’m a Hobbit movie lover so of course I disagree. Noria 988 5 May 27, 3:41pm
           Collapse When he said he wanted the hobbit first, in the times of LOTR or now? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 543 3 May 27, 4:26pm
               Collapse Before. Otaku-sempai 543 2 May 27, 4:31pm
                   Collapse Ok Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 530 1 May 27, 4:41pm
                       As Otaku-sempai said. Noria 447 0 May 27, 7:25pm
           Exactly. Laineth 68 0 Jun 5, 7:11am
       I Think the Hobbit films have been immensely successful squiggle 464 0 May 27, 6:55pm
       Collapse for me.. Jettorex 511 1 May 29, 3:28pm
           It is entirely possible Bishop 471 0 May 29, 6:04pm

  Collapse A confirmation that trailer Sauron will be in Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1213 7 May 26, 5:30pm Jump to last post in thread (by Old Pilgrim)
       Lets hope so! NoelGallagher 953 0 May 26, 9:41pm
       Collapse Much of this stuff could be wishful thinking.... sycorax82 700 4 May 27, 2:08pm
           Collapse There are strong evidences that at least those scenes where filmed for sure Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 643 3 May 27, 4:13pm
               Collapse The Palantir scene was cut from the DoS EE Bofur01 613 2 May 27, 5:33pm
                   Collapse How do you know Smaug the iron 601 1 May 27, 5:56pm
                       It'll be in the track "Thrain" on the BotFA soundtrack. Bofur01 538 0 May 27, 9:02pm
       That is good really Old Pilgrim 31 0 Jun 17, 8:13am

  Moved: THE HOBBIT A Capella Smaug the iron - - May 25, 11:56pm Jump to last post in thread (by Smaug the iron)
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