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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Collapse The gems of Lasgalen and the necklace of Girion AshNazg 467 6 May 31, 5:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by Milieuterrien)
       Collapse If the plot line is included... Pandallo 393 5 May 31, 7:09pm
           Collapse Ah, good point. AshNazg 369 3 May 31, 7:40pm
               Collapse The gems/Thranduil's wife arithmancer 353 2 May 31, 8:00pm
                   Going back to my Girion Necklace AshNazg 351 0 May 31, 8:06pm
                   Thranduil is the more able to help Men Milieuterrien 331 0 May 31, 8:49pm
           Much left to speculation there. Milieuterrien 364 0 May 31, 7:51pm

  Collapse Beorn's references in DOS: Extended Edition? ThorinsNemesis 956 34 May 30, 11:51am Jump to last post in thread (by ThorinsNemesis)
       Collapse Angmar's borders Otaku-sempai 872 16 May 30, 11:58am
           Collapse But... ThorinsNemesis 864 15 May 30, 12:06pm
               Collapse Angmar's borders (elaborated) Otaku-sempai 854 14 May 30, 12:18pm
                   Collapse Hmm... ThorinsNemesis 841 13 May 30, 12:34pm
                       Collapse Bilbo planting the acorn Otaku-sempai 812 12 May 30, 1:11pm
                           Collapse Thanks for the text info... ThorinsNemesis 804 11 May 30, 1:16pm
                               Collapse Raising the dead Otaku-sempai 796 10 May 30, 1:27pm
                                   Collapse So... ThorinsNemesis 788 9 May 30, 1:40pm
                                       Collapse The Nazgul in Angmar Otaku-sempai 767 8 May 30, 2:11pm
                                           Collapse The Nazgul ThorinsNemesis 758 7 May 30, 2:28pm
                                             Collapse Excellent Analysis..SSOoo..could the WitchKing? Bombadil 720 5 May 30, 3:54pm
                                                 Palantir, the Witchking ThorinsNemesis 690 0 May 30, 4:40pm
                                                   Collapse The Witch-king was also imprisoned. Otaku-sempai 626 3 May 30, 6:59pm
                                                       Collapse Sauron and Angmar ThorinsNemesis 616 2 May 30, 7:08pm
                                                           Collapse Perhaps Otaku-sempai 609 1 May 30, 7:13pm
                                                               Yeah, most likely... ThorinsNemesis 605 0 May 30, 7:17pm
                                               Beorn Otaku-sempai 626 0 May 30, 6:56pm
       Different take on it.... dormouse 633 0 May 30, 6:45pm
       Collapse How Old is Beorn Supposed to Be? MyWeeLadGimli 524 7 May 30, 11:40pm
           Collapse Beorn's age Otaku-sempai 517 6 May 31, 12:16am
               Beorn ThorinsNemesis 455 0 May 31, 6:46am
               Collapse Geas and the Battle of the Five Armies? ThorinsNemesis 429 4 May 31, 8:19am
                   Collapse "...he is under no enchantment but his own." Otaku-sempai 389 3 May 31, 11:08am
                       Collapse Harmed someone who he cated about... ThorinsNemesis 355 2 May 31, 12:31pm
                           Collapse Maybe Otaku-sempai 235 1 May 31, 12:46pm
                               Well... ThorinsNemesis 233 0 May 31, 12:56pm
       Collapse This reference appears again and again... Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 213 6 May 31, 4:12pm
           Collapse Sauron? ThorinsNemesis 196 4 May 31, 4:56pm
               Collapse I think you're assuming too much about the meaning of dormouse 173 3 May 31, 5:33pm
                   Collapse Well... ThorinsNemesis 169 2 May 31, 5:40pm
                       Collapse Sauron ruling ME darthgandalf99 79 1 Jun 2, 3:55pm
                           But ThorinsNemesis 70 0 Jun 2, 5:40pm
           "Not since a darker power ruled these lands." Otaku-sempai 132 0 Jun 1, 5:27am
       I think it's definitely Sauron Bishop 188 0 May 31, 5:02pm

  Collapse What if The Master of Laketown had taken Alfrid's role in BOFA? Goldeneye 952 62 May 29, 7:54pm Jump to last post in thread (by KingTurgon)
       No Glorfindela 816 0 May 29, 8:05pm
       Alfrid is probably worse than Jar Jar Binks Gandalf the Green 802 0 May 29, 8:39pm
       Collapse Well, it can't be much worse than the version we are given. DanielLB 775 18 May 29, 9:55pm
           Collapse Well said Daniel Michelle Johnston 491 17 May 30, 3:47pm
               Collapse All that would have been great Milieuterrien 472 16 May 30, 4:31pm
                   Collapse Then it's a shame... DanielLB 457 14 May 30, 5:43pm
                       Collapse Nothing new here Milieuterrien 428 13 May 30, 6:35pm
                           Collapse You know... Otaku-sempai 407 10 May 30, 7:21pm
                               Collapse If so, why do children know so much about fairy tales, Milieuterrien 467 8 May 30, 7:37pm
                                   Collapse Blame Victoria Otaku-sempai 453 6 May 30, 7:46pm
                                       Collapse Blame victorian attitude ? Milieuterrien 397 5 May 30, 10:54pm
                                           Collapse That sounds like an ancient complaint. Otaku-sempai 387 4 May 31, 12:09am
                                               Collapse Your answer illustrates what I say Milieuterrien 360 2 May 31, 7:19am
                                                   Collapse The Scientific Method Otaku-sempai 315 1 May 31, 11:21am
                                                       Sure ! Milieuterrien 307 0 May 31, 11:26am
                                               Historical accuracy Glorfindela 342 0 May 31, 7:45am
                                   I think you misunderstand DanielB's use of 'shame'. Ataahua 421 0 May 30, 9:16pm
                               Indeed – that's so true Glorfindela 452 0 May 30, 7:46pm
                           Collapse LOL. There's no point preaching to me. DanielLB 448 1 May 30, 8:09pm
                               I don't see in the Battle of the Five Armies Milieuterrien 392 0 May 31, 12:04am
                   Disagree Goldeneye 285 0 May 31, 1:40pm
       Collapse Two things. And some more. Milieuterrien 771 1 May 29, 10:11pm
           MOST EXCELLENT post Bombadil 653 0 May 30, 5:09am
       Collapse Both characters... Avnar 707 1 May 30, 1:10am
           I preferred Jar Jar to Alfird KingTurgon 59 0 Jun 5, 9:23pm
       In order to provide more insight into Bard's character Loresilme 708 0 May 30, 1:29am
       Collapse I enjoy Alfrid squiggle 687 2 May 30, 3:15am
           huh? Goldeneye 674 0 May 30, 3:34am
           I can't tell if you love Alfrid or hate him Bishop 661 0 May 30, 4:13am
       Collapse I seem to be in the minority Turnip Head 661 3 May 30, 4:58am
         Collapse WE have been OVER this Before..In Fact another Bombadil 658 2 May 30, 5:06am
               Collapse Bomby, you know the rules. entmaiden 514 1 May 30, 3:19pm
                   Sorry. Bombadil 497 0 May 30, 3:39pm
       Collapse He couldn't have taken Alfrid's role dormouse 624 26 May 30, 7:38am
           Collapse Getting the Master out of the way meant having Bard in charge Milieuterrien 606 14 May 30, 8:24am
               Collapse These last posts by dmouse & Milie couldn't Bombadil 540 11 May 30, 2:24pm
                   Collapse Did Alfrid advance any plot though? Goldeneye 279 10 May 31, 1:52pm
                       Collapse Ah story telling pay off Michelle Johnston 212 9 May 31, 4:19pm
                           Collapse Yes.... dormouse 187 8 May 31, 5:45pm
                               Collapse Toned down, maybe but... Milieuterrien 169 7 May 31, 7:13pm
                                   Collapse Not for me. DanielLB 248 6 Jun 1, 9:09am
                                       Collapse Seconded Glorfindela 207 5 Jun 1, 1:11pm
                                           Collapse Same here.... dormouse 188 4 Jun 1, 3:41pm
                                               Collapse No more Alfrid please Elanor of Rohan 169 2 Jun 1, 4:27pm
                                                   Collapse Reconstruction? Otaku-sempai 154 1 Jun 1, 6:25pm
                                                       No, I don't Elanor of Rohan 149 0 Jun 1, 6:46pm
                                               Alrid has more potential for an Arc than the Master squiggle 118 0 Jun 2, 5:50am
               Collapse Yes, I agree. Hobbity Hobbit 530 1 May 30, 2:30pm
                   Yes, PJ kept Bard's 'coming from nowhere' Milieuterrien 514 0 May 30, 3:03pm
           Collapse Use your imagination! Goldeneye 277 10 May 31, 2:05pm
               Collapse WHy... arithmancer 269 2 May 31, 2:17pm
                   Collapse Yes, and that's how Alfrid functions as a foil for Bard Milieuterrien 255 1 May 31, 2:38pm
                       re: Goldeneye 237 0 May 31, 2:59pm
               Collapse I am using my imagination.... dormouse 242 5 May 31, 3:12pm
                   Collapse Really though Goldeneye 145 1 May 31, 8:58pm
                       No, not incorrect at all... dormouse 308 0 May 31, 10:49pm
                   Collapse If the Master had survived... Otaku-sempai 271 2 Jun 1, 5:37am
                       Collapse Well yes, I think so.... dormouse 255 1 Jun 1, 7:23am
                           Master of The Lake Michelle Johnston 220 0 Jun 1, 12:22pm
               My imagination is just fine, I think. Spriggan 158 0 May 31, 8:01pm
       Who knows? The two characters would fulfil very different roles. Spriggan 320 0 May 31, 11:09am
       Bard didn't mind having authority over Alfrid in BoTF Armies, i think he enjoyed it squiggle 301 0 May 31, 11:21pm

  Collapse Lake-men and Bilbo planting the acorn in Dale? ThorinsNemesis 823 28 May 29, 1:19pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse Planting the acorn! Loresilme 733 1 May 29, 1:35pm
           Acorn; and Lake-men ThorinsNemesis 724 0 May 29, 1:39pm
       Collapse It would be funny Milieuterrien 689 1 May 29, 2:42pm
           Yes, really funny ThorinsNemesis 661 0 May 29, 3:22pm
       Collapse Some discrepancies seem to be there Milieuterrien 640 12 May 29, 4:08pm
           Collapse I don't find Tolkien's interpretation realistic ThorinsNemesis 616 11 May 29, 4:38pm
               Collapse According to Bilbo Smaug the iron 601 8 May 29, 4:42pm
                   Collapse FOTR and the Hobbit ThorinsNemesis 593 7 May 29, 5:00pm
                       Collapse He maybe mean Smaug the iron 588 5 May 29, 5:13pm
                           Collapse Not sure in the movies, but possible ThorinsNemesis 575 4 May 29, 5:25pm
                               Dale was rebuilt first Smaug the iron 561 0 May 29, 5:34pm
                               Collapse Both were rebuilt, IMO. arithmancer 539 2 May 29, 5:58pm
                                   IMMIGRATION! YES.. Bombadil 526 0 May 29, 6:13pm
                                   They were both rebuilt in time, that's for sure ThorinsNemesis 517 0 May 29, 6:17pm
                       Bomby's Guess? Since Bard is the ONLY Heir of Girion.. Bombadil 579 0 May 29, 5:27pm
               Collapse I really don't know Milieuterrien 572 1 May 29, 5:29pm
                   Laketown and Dale ThorinsNemesis 550 0 May 29, 5:47pm
       Collapse It is very possible. Otaku-sempai 500 8 May 29, 6:57pm
           Collapse Dale and Laketown rebuilt ThorinsNemesis 486 7 May 29, 7:13pm
               Collapse Thanks. Otaku-sempai 476 6 May 29, 7:21pm
                   Collapse I read it somewhere... ThorinsNemesis 468 5 May 29, 7:25pm
                       No; Tolkien never indicated that. Otaku-sempai 443 0 May 29, 7:50pm
                       Collapse "..To Re-build Esgaroth 10 Times over!" Bombadil 443 3 May 29, 8:00pm
                           Collapse Um...Bomby? Otaku-sempai 148 2 May 29, 11:47pm
                               Collapse Wrong, NOT according to Karen's Atlas. Bombadil 132 1 May 30, 2:58am
                                   Bomby? They were BOTH Esgaroth Otaku-sempai 97 0 May 30, 11:43am
       Collapse But... CathrineB 383 1 May 29, 10:49pm
           Bilbo plants the acorn in Dale because... ThorinsNemesis 121 0 May 30, 5:27am

  Collapse The Peter Jackson Film School? Bumblingidiot 841 11 May 29, 11:14am Jump to last post in thread (by dormouse)
       I know what this is Glorfindela 630 0 May 29, 8:09pm
       HAHAHA this is great stuff Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 481 0 May 30, 10:35am
       lol lonelymountainhermit 444 0 May 30, 2:02pm
       Fictional and offensive Milieuterrien 437 0 May 30, 2:44pm
       Collapse Excellent idea, Bumblingidiot... dormouse 376 4 May 30, 7:12pm
           Collapse I don't think that's important. Bumblingidiot 125 3 Jun 3, 11:31am
               Collapse Do you not? dormouse 120 2 Jun 3, 12:46pm
                   Collapse From the perspective of the person doing it, sure.. Bumblingidiot 112 1 Jun 3, 2:18pm
                       Yes - to everything you say... dormouse 111 0 Jun 3, 2:27pm
       Well... Elarie 242 0 Jun 1, 11:43am
       Entry requirements: Spriggan 210 0 Jun 1, 5:31pm

  Collapse DOS: Feast of Starlight ... A potential great scene Legolas_Shoehorn 930 8 May 27, 8:48pm Jump to last post in thread (by DainPig)
       I also regret the absence of that scene Milieuterrien 858 0 May 27, 9:03pm
       Agree... that's for sure an head-scratcher // xxxyyy 838 0 May 27, 9:16pm
       Collapse I think there is no gonna be a debate in this :) Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 808 2 May 27, 9:54pm
         Collapse Maybe PJ will show Deleted Scenes in the EE Extras? Bombadil 746 1 May 28, 1:05am
               Let's Adrianna 738 0 May 28, 1:28am
       Collapse Nope, can't say I care about a Feast of Starlight scene. Noria 591 1 May 28, 12:18pm
         PJ did make a comment why they left it out.. Bombadil 501 0 May 28, 5:16pm
       Why not? DainPig 163 0 Jun 1, 10:46pm

  Collapse Funeral Smaug the iron 1254 48 May 27, 6:26pm Jump to last post in thread (by DainPig)
       Collapse Bilbo & Gandalf for sure Kilidoescartwheels 1094 3 May 27, 6:51pm
           Collapse *snigger* Avandel 1033 1 May 27, 8:19pm
               The Funeral Roheryn1 569 0 May 28, 6:46pm
           Legolas Mooseboy018 902 0 May 28, 12:02am
       Collapse Tauriel Goldeneye 1084 12 May 27, 6:59pm
         Collapse Yes Avandel 1014 9 May 27, 8:47pm
               Collapse I can see it now... CathrineB 969 3 May 27, 9:52pm
                   Collapse There is one...maybe two Avandel 867 2 May 28, 1:57am
                       Tauriel Mooseboy018 854 0 May 28, 2:36am
                       Yeah but CathrineB 752 0 May 28, 10:08am
               Collapse Grumblings over ROTK lionoferebor 920 4 May 27, 11:37pm
                   Collapse I'm Negative Nancy now, but.. CathrineB 911 3 May 27, 11:56pm
                       Collapse I was somewhat Hopeful Holly... lionoferebor 521 2 May 28, 11:35pm
                           Collapse Pestimistic, really ? Milieuterrien 473 1 May 29, 9:17am
                               I like the word but my post has been edited by something else than me. Milieuterrien 432 0 May 29, 2:45pm
           Collapse Please no Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf 966 1 May 27, 9:57pm
             Expect the Unexpected, that's Bomby's Mantra../// Bombadil 920 0 May 27, 11:08pm
       Mmm! Adrianna 889 0 May 28, 12:43am
       Many funerals to dispatch Milieuterrien 705 0 May 28, 12:39pm
       Collapse Well Shagrat 697 19 May 28, 1:51pm
           Collapse Image too big. Otaku-sempai 668 7 May 28, 2:18pm
               Collapse Resized. dernwyn 582 6 May 28, 4:09pm
                   Collapse Hmmm Avandel 370 5 May 30, 12:32am
                       Collapse And the party dernwyn 303 4 May 30, 1:29pm
                           *Grins* Avandel 246 0 May 30, 5:58pm
                           Collapse A River runs through it Kim 233 2 May 30, 6:12pm
                             Collapse There would have been fireworks, too... Avandel 189 1 May 30, 9:24pm
                                   Loving this scenario :D Ilmatar 134 0 May 31, 10:35pm
           Collapse Why would you expect Thranduil to be there with none of his people? dormouse 643 10 May 28, 3:05pm
               Collapse Well a few guards perhaps... Shagrat 630 7 May 28, 3:12pm
                   Collapse Well yes.... dormouse 610 6 May 28, 3:33pm
                       Collapse Well that's why I mentioned Thranduil Shagrat 600 5 May 28, 3:45pm
                           Collapse Fair enough.... dormouse 588 4 May 28, 4:03pm
                               Collapse That she has an expressed concern with them burying Kili Shagrat 585 3 May 28, 4:08pm
                                   Collapse Huh? arithmancer 604 2 May 28, 4:21pm
                                       Collapse Not if she is uncomfortable with the idea of the Dwarves burying Kili according to their custom Shagrat 598 1 May 28, 4:24pm
                                           If no Elves are there probably not. arithmancer 592 0 May 28, 4:27pm
               Collapse Because of the book? Otaku-sempai 607 1 May 28, 4:16pm
                   Sorry, what I meant was.... dormouse 605 0 May 28, 4:24pm
       Collapse No Elves, I would imagine Glorfindela 379 5 May 29, 11:28pm
           Collapse Digression: Elves at Helm's Deep Otaku-sempai 374 4 May 29, 11:53pm
               Collapse Sorry, but I disagree Glorfindela 345 3 May 30, 9:19am
                   Collapse Yeah me too CathrineB 334 2 May 30, 10:11am
                       A matter of convenience? Glorfindela 320 0 May 30, 10:48am
                       Maybe overanalyzing? Kilidoescartwheels 288 0 May 30, 1:47pm
       Collapse I wouldn't mind Tauriel attending and having a minimal role as part of Thranduil's guard MatthewJer18 244 1 May 30, 5:59pm
           Given the TE, I don't see Tauriel among Thranduils guards Milieuterrien 211 0 May 30, 7:08pm
       My opinion DainPig 90 0 Jun 1, 11:21pm

  Collapse We're forgetting an audience... Hobbity Hobbit 1961 94 May 26, 9:58pm Jump to last post in thread (by Milieuterrien)
       Collapse Count me as a ridiculous adult! Kilidoescartwheels 1641 1 May 26, 10:20pm
           PJ is a Father, Fran is a Mother & Philippa is TOO! Bombadil 1627 0 May 26, 10:27pm
       Collapse An inspiration for feminists. RosieLass 1640 7 May 26, 10:29pm
           Collapse Yes, she was an inspiration Elarie 1627 3 May 26, 11:04pm
               @ HobbitCon in Germany? Bombadil 1572 0 May 27, 12:29am
               Yeah, Hobbity Hobbit 1520 0 May 27, 2:24am
               Certainly. RosieLass 438 0 May 27, 5:06pm
           Collapse Strange when you think it was predominantly written by two women // AshNazg 1548 2 May 27, 1:06am
               Collapse I don't think so.... Avandel 1530 1 May 27, 2:22am
                   Well.. Hobbity Hobbit 1514 0 May 27, 2:42am
       Collapse Oh please... Morthoron 1567 2 May 27, 1:00am
           Collapse Hey, Which movie did you see ? Milieuterrien 1250 1 May 27, 3:08pm
             Even Leggy? couldn't "Handle". Bolg in Laketown? Bombadil 1202 0 May 27, 3:59pm
       I wouldn't minded Tauriel so much ... MEM 1470 0 May 27, 5:03am
       Collapse On the broad point, I think it is a good one. Spriggan 1424 3 May 27, 8:13am
           Collapse ISN'T 700 YEARS, a mere 7 Blinks in eyes of an Elf? Bombadil 1376 2 May 27, 10:49am
               Elven Maturity Otaku-sempai 1249 0 May 27, 2:47pm
               lol Loresilme 394 0 May 29, 2:05pm
       One problem CathrineB 1377 0 May 27, 10:54am
       Collapse Yes, I think you're right... dormouse 1363 42 May 27, 11:26am
           Collapse Oh, poor Tauriel! Kilidoescartwheels 1278 7 May 27, 2:28pm
               Collapse Fili and Kili being woman would have been cool Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 447 3 May 27, 4:59pm
                   LOL! Kilidoescartwheels 430 0 May 27, 5:21pm
                   Collapse They Sort of Already Did AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 382 1 May 27, 7:27pm
                       Not really Otaku-sempai 351 0 May 27, 8:48pm
               Collapse Well, to get more specific.... Avandel 378 1 May 27, 7:29pm
                   I agree with this: Arveldis 270 0 May 31, 1:06am
               Not ridiculous at all... dormouse 310 0 May 27, 10:33pm
           Collapse It's not the fact that she fell in love that is the problem. RosieLass 444 33 May 27, 5:03pm
               Same goes to guys Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 436 0 May 27, 5:08pm
               Collapse You'd like the new "Mad Max" movie then Kilidoescartwheels 428 30 May 27, 5:22pm
                   I haven't seen it. RosieLass 398 0 May 27, 6:32pm
                   Collapse Mad Max's Furiosa had one VERY crucial advantage over The Hobbit's Tauriel! marary 333 28 May 27, 9:50pm
                       Modernity vs. Tolkiennernity marary 322 0 May 27, 10:22pm
                       Collapse The Hobbit and the Bechdel test Milieuterrien 295 26 May 27, 11:38pm
                           Collapse Mad Max v. Hobbit Kilidoescartwheels 280 25 May 28, 1:27am
                               Collapse In French, spiders are female, that's it. Milieuterrien 471 24 May 28, 8:04am
                                   Bwahahahahaha Kilidoescartwheels 438 0 May 28, 1:49pm
                                   Let's not be overly literal! Otaku-sempai 434 0 May 28, 2:24pm
                                   Collapse What? Glorfindela 423 21 May 28, 2:59pm
                                       Collapse Don't get fooled, it was just an attempt ... Milieuterrien 405 20 May 28, 3:49pm
                                           Collapse They say that English is the most difficult language to learn. RosieLass 404 19 May 28, 4:01pm
                                               Collapse As far as I'm concerned, Milieuterrien 399 5 May 28, 4:20pm
                                                   Collapse Haha! RosieLass 372 4 May 28, 5:10pm
                                                       Collapse Haha indeed Kilidoescartwheels 335 3 May 28, 6:45pm
                                                           Collapse Back to the spot, Milieuterrien 311 2 May 28, 7:55pm
                                                               Collapse Oh, now you're REALLY asking for it! Kilidoescartwheels 306 1 May 28, 8:17pm
                                                                   Indeed… Glorfindela 274 0 May 28, 10:37pm
                                               Collapse The Slavonic languages are tricky Glorfindela 390 12 May 28, 4:23pm
                                                   Maybe because it's simple on crucial points Milieuterrien 381 0 May 28, 4:37pm
                                                   Collapse Money Avandel 383 10 May 28, 4:40pm
                                                       Collapse I think what makes English difficult RosieLass 378 8 May 28, 5:07pm
                                                           Collapse Spelling, also. arithmancer 364 1 May 28, 5:16pm
                                                               Indeed, no. 2 Glorfindela 272 0 May 28, 10:41pm
                                                           Collapse Because English formed as a combination of other languages. Silverlode 293 2 May 28, 9:46pm
                                                               Collapse Then there's this: Ataahua 267 1 May 28, 10:56pm
                                                                   Yes... Silverlode 243 0 May 29, 12:52am
                                                           Collapse This is so true… Glorfindela 279 2 May 28, 10:34pm
                                                               Collapse One of my favourites is ... DanielLB 216 1 May 29, 6:51am
                                                                   That's a good one Glorfindela 189 0 May 29, 8:52am
                                                     Bomby spends SOME Time on a Search Engine? Bombadil 239 0 May 29, 12:55am
               Well, yes.... dormouse 320 0 May 27, 10:17pm
       Collapse So Tauriel is there as some kind of social enginery? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1189 23 May 27, 4:19pm
           Collapse The main necessity is to have some elf character embodied on screen Milieuterrien 1177 22 May 27, 4:31pm
               I understand that, but a single movie, with that ride you mention works. Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1163 0 May 27, 4:40pm
               Collapse Mostly true. Otaku-sempai 1163 4 May 27, 4:45pm
                   Collapse Imagine they would had used the characters of the book to flesh out more story Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 446 3 May 27, 4:57pm
                       Agreed. Otaku-sempai 435 0 May 27, 5:08pm
                       Well they DID flesh out two of them Kilidoescartwheels 396 0 May 27, 6:41pm
                       Nice comments IMO and interesting Avandel 359 0 May 27, 8:02pm
               Collapse Social Engineering is a phrase with a specific meaning, Bumblingidiot 440 15 May 29, 10:24am
                   Collapse Propaganda is more specific than social engineering Milieuterrien 433 14 May 29, 10:51am
                       Collapse Yes, and in this context both are applicable - which is why I used both terms. Bumblingidiot 428 13 May 29, 12:05pm
                           The authors' stated reasons... arithmancer 426 0 May 29, 12:11pm
                           Collapse If your purpose is to say : Milieuterrien 404 11 May 29, 1:20pm
                               Collapse Aren´t we talking about Tauriel? elostirion74 362 4 May 29, 6:08pm
                                   Collapse Why do pretend that Tauriel is there only for engineering and not for storytelling ? Milieuterrien 352 3 May 29, 6:50pm
                                       Collapse And the relevance of all these questions are? elostirion74 316 2 May 29, 11:52pm
                                           As I understood, Milieuterrien 314 0 May 30, 12:29am
                                           Tauriel stuff slotted in great, just a tad underdeveloped squiggle 241 0 May 31, 6:04am
                               Collapse "My purpose" is to say what I said, not what I didn't say. Bumblingidiot 123 5 Jun 3, 2:47pm
                                   Collapse I said 'if' you said... Milieuterrien 106 4 Jun 3, 10:49pm
                                       Collapse And who said you did say that???? Bumblingidiot 97 3 Jun 4, 3:47pm
                                           Collapse Same for you : Milieuterrien 91 2 Jun 4, 6:58pm
                                               Collapse Good grief! - I've just spotted your reply - you can't even quote yourself accurately, let alone anyone else.. Bumblingidiot 53 1 Jun 8, 9:51pm
                                                   So you didn't say it implicitly Milieuterrien 40 0 Jun 9, 6:01pm
       It's not about forgetting the audience. Bumblingidiot 1181 0 May 27, 4:28pm
       Collapse I wonder which Tauriel's character trait ignites the fandom spark Milieuterrien 413 2 May 27, 6:16pm
         Collapse Some lines in the Movie say she was "Isolated"... Bombadil 404 1 May 27, 6:31pm
             OTHER.. WayCOOL Qualities Tauriel has? Bombadil 283 0 May 27, 11:44pm
       Collapse We are forgeting the teens have and NEED a sense of reality Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 240 1 May 28, 7:27am
           Kids do have a sense of reality Milieuterrien 239 0 May 28, 7:45am
       How? In what way? elostirion74 375 0 May 29, 5:43pm
       well said swordwhale 182 0 Jun 1, 5:07pm

  Collapse Five factors that hurt the Hobbit films Goldeneye 1865 74 May 26, 5:53pm Jump to last post in thread (by Laineth)
       Collapse Well... Thrain II 1599 1 May 26, 6:34pm
           Is that actually true? Otaku-sempai 1595 0 May 26, 6:41pm
       Collapse Oh, I love a good debate! Kilidoescartwheels 1591 7 May 26, 6:57pm
           Collapse Ditto, ditto, ditto Avandel 1487 6 May 26, 8:35pm
               Not sure I agree completely shadowdog 1423 0 May 26, 10:03pm
               Collapse Army of Elves Ilmatar 425 4 May 27, 8:18pm
                   Collapse They did have real elf armys Smaug the iron 413 3 May 27, 8:50pm
                       Collapse Thanks for the links Ilmatar 397 2 May 27, 9:17pm
                           The Awesome Elf Helmets hid Most Everything Bombadil 379 0 May 27, 11:06pm
                           Gotta put some screen caps up Avandel 294 0 May 28, 4:24pm
       Collapse Well...... dormouse 1535 5 May 26, 8:03pm
         Collapse LOL Dormouse - well said and thanks for this (: Avandel 1469 3 May 26, 9:01pm
               Bomby Agrees with Everyone here EXCEPT the OP.. Bombadil 1452 0 May 26, 9:34pm
               Collapse 'Buzz' Otaku-sempai 1360 1 May 26, 11:55pm
                   It's the way articles are written in the press Avandel 1334 0 May 27, 12:48am
           Agreed! Laineth 62 0 Jun 5, 6:57am
       For Me AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 1431 0 May 26, 10:02pm
       I'm not sure splitting into 3 was such a bad thing... AshNazg 1330 0 May 27, 1:12am
       Collapse Five factors that help and hinder The Hobbit trilogy. DanielLB 1243 43 May 27, 6:51am
           I agree with much of what you say, DanielB Glorfindela 1192 0 May 27, 8:00am
           Collapse Word!! Eleniel 1114 36 May 27, 1:00pm
               Collapse So far as I can see no one is wading anywhere.... dormouse 1095 34 May 27, 1:37pm
                   Collapse Will try to answer the CGI question Kilidoescartwheels 1028 29 May 27, 2:51pm
                       I would wait to see the EE Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 538 0 May 27, 4:30pm
                       Collapse Thank you! dormouse 395 27 May 27, 10:55pm
                           Collapse The Elves over Dwarves scene Kilidoescartwheels 370 26 May 28, 1:04am
                               Collapse Yes.... dormouse 344 25 May 28, 7:00am
                                   Collapse I think it very much could have been done! Bishop 232 24 May 29, 5:36am
                                       Collapse The use of that Viggo quote... Bofur01 213 13 May 29, 8:05am
                                           Collapse Did he? Avandel 205 2 May 29, 8:39am
                                               Collapse I'm 98% sure, that it was said... Bofur01 588 1 May 29, 9:24am
                                                   Maybe he did say it to PJ, but why not saying it mainstream ? Milieuterrien 565 0 May 29, 11:30am
                                           Collapse I agree that it was unbecoming Bishop 547 9 May 29, 2:05pm
                                               Collapse Objective Gandalf the Green 529 1 May 29, 2:57pm
                                                   ... Bishop 519 0 May 29, 3:07pm
                                               Collapse Sorry, I couldn't find it. I'm hoping some others will remember though? // Bofur01 510 6 May 29, 3:10pm
                                                   Collapse No worries Bishop 510 5 May 29, 3:13pm
                                                       Collapse I guess that what VM said has something to do with what he feels Milieuterrien 508 4 May 29, 3:24pm
                                                           Collapse There's no question Bishop 501 3 May 29, 3:34pm
                                                               Collapse And intelligent Avandel 495 2 May 29, 4:20pm
                                                                   Collapse great thoughts Bishop 472 1 May 29, 5:52pm
                                                                       Thank you! and nice! Avandel 427 0 May 29, 11:57pm
                                       Collapse But why... Avandel 207 8 May 29, 8:36am
                                           Collapse When he specifically stated... RosieLass 357 7 May 30, 4:20pm
                                               Collapse But - I really don't know what to think.... Avandel 339 6 May 30, 5:19pm
                                                   Collapse It may happen that VM could have been contacted, Milieuterrien 325 5 May 30, 7:18pm
                                                       Collapse the forbidden word.... Avandel 293 4 May 30, 9:39pm
                                                           Collapse Yes, Avandel Glorfindela 273 3 May 30, 11:05pm
                                                               Collapse Agree - LOL Avandel 217 2 May 31, 4:56pm
                                                                 You are more generous than me, Avandel Glorfindela 200 0 May 31, 5:12pm
                                                                   King Elessar the Storyteller Otaku-sempai 152 0 Jun 1, 5:49am
                                       yessiree lonelymountainhermit 299 0 May 30, 8:46pm
                   Collapse I beg to differ... Eleniel 1013 3 May 27, 3:20pm
                       Collapse Fair enough, I'm sorry.... dormouse 506 2 May 27, 5:17pm
                           Collapse Thanks - and I'm not saying categorically there's anything wrong with it... Eleniel 484 1 May 27, 5:42pm
                               Well yes... dormouse 472 0 May 27, 6:17pm
               I think Bofur01 1064 0 May 27, 1:48pm
           Collapse Allegedly Superfluous Characters Otaku-sempai 1006 4 May 27, 3:22pm
               Collapse Superfluous in the sense ... DanielLB 550 3 May 27, 4:29pm
                   Collapse Well... Otaku-sempai 537 2 May 27, 4:36pm
                       Collapse Yes. Even a Talking Purse. / DanielLB 521 1 May 27, 4:41pm
                           I do like you, Daniel... Otaku-sempai 517 0 May 27, 4:48pm
       Responding to the thread in general, my own factors would be entirely different. Spriggan 1056 0 May 27, 2:05pm
       Collapse The only factors that matter are... sycorax82 1035 1 May 27, 2:27pm
           Studio issues Goldeneye 986 0 May 27, 3:29pm
       Collapse I’m a Hobbit movie lover so of course I disagree. Noria 982 5 May 27, 3:41pm
           Collapse When he said he wanted the hobbit first, in the times of LOTR or now? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 540 3 May 27, 4:26pm
               Collapse Before. Otaku-sempai 540 2 May 27, 4:31pm
                   Collapse Ok Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 527 1 May 27, 4:41pm
                       As Otaku-sempai said. Noria 444 0 May 27, 7:25pm
           Exactly. Laineth 61 0 Jun 5, 7:11am
       I Think the Hobbit films have been immensely successful squiggle 461 0 May 27, 6:55pm
       Collapse for me.. Jettorex 504 1 May 29, 3:28pm
           It is entirely possible Bishop 464 0 May 29, 6:04pm

  Collapse A confirmation that trailer Sauron will be in Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1206 7 May 26, 5:30pm Jump to last post in thread (by Old Pilgrim)
       Lets hope so! NoelGallagher 946 0 May 26, 9:41pm
       Collapse Much of this stuff could be wishful thinking.... sycorax82 693 4 May 27, 2:08pm
           Collapse There are strong evidences that at least those scenes where filmed for sure Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 636 3 May 27, 4:13pm
               Collapse The Palantir scene was cut from the DoS EE Bofur01 606 2 May 27, 5:33pm
                   Collapse How do you know Smaug the iron 594 1 May 27, 5:56pm
                       It'll be in the track "Thrain" on the BotFA soundtrack. Bofur01 531 0 May 27, 9:02pm
       That is good really Old Pilgrim 24 0 Jun 17, 8:13am

  Moved: THE HOBBIT A Capella Smaug the iron - - May 25, 11:56pm Jump to last post in thread (by Smaug the iron)

  Collapse The Battle Of The Five Armies - Extended Edition PART 2 Smaug the iron 1702 10 May 24, 7:13pm Jump to last post in thread (by Bombadil)
       Collapse About that chariot Kilidoescartwheels 1637 4 May 24, 7:40pm
           At Smaug the iron 1621 0 May 24, 7:46pm
           Thrain Mooseboy018 1605 0 May 24, 8:01pm
           Collapse Hmm... lionoferebor 1358 1 May 25, 3:38am
               Dain Mooseboy018 1347 0 May 25, 4:16am
       Collapse I am not looking forward the chariot Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1469 4 May 24, 10:49pm
           Collapse I think the chariot could be fun... AshNazg 1466 3 May 24, 11:01pm
               haha yeah I get your feeling Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1461 0 May 24, 11:04pm
               Collapse It could be fun Bishop 1403 1 May 25, 1:33am
                 MOST Excellent post! by Pryftan AV,whoever he is... Bombadil 1292 0 May 25, 7:36am

  Collapse The Hobbit: The Return of the Edit Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1071 19 May 24, 7:06pm Jump to last post in thread (by Bishop)
     Collapse isaac, how do we see this?// Bombadil 937 2 May 24, 9:30pm
           Collapse I recommend sending a private message... AshNazg 932 1 May 24, 9:37pm
               Yeah Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 877 0 May 24, 10:53pm
       Collapse I really want editing software, I have a rather unique idea... AshNazg 932 7 May 24, 9:42pm
           Collapse As Bomby always says.."When in Doubt, Google it?" Bombadil 897 2 May 24, 10:19pm
               Collapse I know, but I worry about how safe that stuff is... AshNazg 833 1 May 25, 1:26am
                   Ash Nazg leonmuse 829 0 May 25, 1:39am
           Collapse Editing software Goldeneye 702 2 May 25, 1:45pm
               Collapse WOWie THANKS for the Heads UP! Bombadil 665 1 May 25, 3:08pm
                   one more thing Goldeneye 487 0 May 26, 1:31pm
           I would be interested in reading a detailed description of your edit idea =) Gianna 305 0 May 27, 6:07pm
       Collapse Someone should try an edit removing Bilbo completely Bishop 905 7 May 24, 10:18pm
         GOOD LUCK! Impossible...// Bombadil 893 0 May 24, 10:24pm
           HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 878 0 May 24, 10:51pm
           Someone has... AshNazg 878 0 May 24, 10:52pm
           Collapse Sadly this wouldn't be too difficult to do...he was barely in it. lonelymountainhermit 841 1 May 25, 12:58am
               And yet still in it more than he was in the book! // adt100 516 0 May 26, 10:27am
         Collapse Would love to see that! // Gianna 303 1 May 27, 6:08pm
               You know, I may actually do it. Bishop 300 0 May 27, 6:19pm

  Collapse Location Smaug the iron 511 9 May 24, 4:14pm Jump to last post in thread (by Bombadil)
       Collapse Erebor CathrineB 475 4 May 24, 4:56pm
           Collapse Well Smaug the iron 468 3 May 24, 5:01pm
               Collapse Ah CathrineB 432 2 May 24, 6:16pm
                 The SHIRE since IT was "ADAPTED" from a Sheep Farm. Bombadil 428 0 May 24, 7:03pm
                   That's Earnslaw Burn Kilidoescartwheels 400 0 May 24, 7:30pm
       Collapse Earnslaw Burn Kilidoescartwheels 405 3 May 24, 7:27pm
           Ajsdsh CathrineB 397 0 May 24, 7:39pm
         Collapse Ian Brodie's Books are GREAT Bombadil 394 1 May 24, 7:58pm
               Also, his LOTR Location Books are in 2 Parts, Bombadil 360 0 May 24, 10:22pm

  Collapse What did we all expect from The Hobbit movies given the realities of movie making and PJ's history? Noria 1235 36 May 24, 1:11pm Jump to last post in thread (by Laineth)
       For myself Glorfindela 1057 0 May 24, 1:54pm
       Collapse To sum up Otaku-sempai 1032 1 May 24, 2:23pm
           OL' Bom will just wait to see the EE because.. Bombadil 1021 0 May 24, 2:43pm
       I for one... CathrineB 1014 0 May 24, 2:49pm
     Collapse Didn't consciously think about it re AUJ Avandel 1008 1 May 24, 2:55pm
           Argh - gotta PS my own post.... Avandel 990 0 May 24, 3:19pm
       Collapse What did I expect after three cinematic masterpieces? Aragorn the Elfstone 989 7 May 24, 3:41pm
           Collapse The second I saw the first designs for the dwarves I had doubts... AshNazg 969 5 May 24, 4:09pm
               Collapse Yes, that certainly instilled some doubt... Aragorn the Elfstone 962 2 May 24, 4:15pm
                   Collapse agreed lonelymountainhermit 912 1 May 24, 5:20pm
                     Bomby has learned to "Expect the Unexpected" from PJ&Co./// Bombadil 901 0 May 24, 5:25pm
               Collapse This! Avnar 625 1 May 25, 10:27am
                   yup lonelymountainhermit 585 0 May 25, 1:31pm
           Great post Bishop 903 0 May 24, 5:29pm
       Collapse This topic has been discussed many times under similar headings, however, it is Eruonen 856 1 May 24, 6:46pm
           Here is Something to think about...? Bombadil 771 0 May 24, 10:40pm
       Collapse Noria I have a lot of respect for you so I will jump in here Michelle Johnston 792 3 May 24, 10:30pm
           About the Dwarves Kilidoescartwheels 679 0 May 25, 4:44am
           Collapse Michelle, Noria 427 1 May 25, 9:06pm
               Lovely Reply Michelle Johnston 137 0 May 29, 6:23pm
       Collapse Siimple, really, and not unlike your own reaction.... dormouse 765 1 May 24, 10:48pm
           Yes. All of this. Laineth 57 0 Jun 5, 7:25am
       I was totally open minded with a tad of trepidation squiggle 762 0 May 24, 10:54pm
       Collapse the expectations CathrineB 751 1 May 24, 11:43pm
           Your last sentence is particularly interesting... AshNazg 741 0 May 25, 12:09am
       I just got back from The Avengers - Age of Ultron and was impressed with the character Eruonen 738 0 May 25, 12:14am
       Another magical trip to Middle Earth Elarie 581 0 May 25, 1:38pm
       Speaking as someone who was deeply disappointed in LOTR... RosieLass 488 0 May 25, 2:42pm
       Some at odds quotes about discontent - to remind me of perspective Eruonen 464 0 May 25, 4:20pm
       Collapse Met expectations Milieuterrien 438 2 May 25, 8:19pm
         GREAT Summary,,"Thang you Berry Buch".../// Bombadil 389 0 May 25, 10:01pm
           A few comments... Avandel 393 0 May 25, 10:20pm
       Well, Istaris'staffs 350 0 May 26, 5:49am
       interesting question - perhaps less indulgence and more consistency elostirion74 283 0 May 26, 5:48pm
       Collapse Simply put, these were not the movies I was hoping for NOR what I feel I was lead to believe we'd receive The Grey Elf 238 1 May 27, 2:01pm
           yes lonelymountainhermit 163 0 May 29, 3:32pm
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