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  Collapse 'The Battle of the Five Armies' Teaser now available on iTunes Movie Trailers News from Bree 330 1 Aug 14, 1:04am Jump to last post in thread (by SafeUnderHill)
       How do you get 1080p? SafeUnderHill 146 0 Aug 14, 12:02pm

  Collapse Fili's Fate Riven Delve 1410 51 Aug 13, 11:28pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse Fili and Kili both have a chance DaughterofLaketown 709 8 Aug 13, 11:38pm
           Kili Riven Delve 675 0 Aug 13, 11:56pm
           Collapse I don't think so... Salmacis81 254 6 Aug 14, 6:52pm
             Collapse A MiddleEARTH question that might solve this Riddle? Bombadil 229 5 Aug 14, 7:36pm
                   Collapse Dain always dwelt in the Iron Hills Otaku-sempai 200 4 Aug 14, 8:51pm
                     Collapse Thank U! O-s...WE can ALL Rely your VAST Knowledge & Bombadil 178 3 Aug 14, 9:37pm
                           Collapse I make my share of mistakes, Bomby. Otaku-sempai 147 2 Aug 15, 1:11am
                             Collapse Here it a possible ANSWER to the DAIN Riddle..? Bombadil 83 1 Aug 16, 1:37am
                                   Either Balin or Thorin Otaku-sempai 44 0 Aug 16, 11:45am
       I'd be willing to put money on both brothers dying. Ataahua 655 0 Aug 14, 12:46am
       Yes, Dain does present a challenge The Grey Elf 633 0 Aug 14, 2:25am
       they both need to go Ham_Sammy 609 0 Aug 14, 2:33am
       Not to sound callous, but sauget.diblosio 577 0 Aug 14, 4:43am
       Collapse I think this is one aspect of the book Peter Jackson won't change dormouse 525 1 Aug 14, 7:46am
           Death scenes Riven Delve 357 0 Aug 14, 1:48pm
       Collapse The problem with Dain. DanielLB 514 4 Aug 14, 9:28am
           Collapse Prologue Ham_Sammy 398 1 Aug 14, 1:06pm
               PJ's remark and the chariot. Michelle Johnston 241 0 Aug 14, 7:34pm
           If only Dain had some history Riven Delve 365 0 Aug 14, 1:34pm
           I agree as well. Cillendor 329 0 Aug 14, 2:37pm
       Collapse Story Telling, Story Telling, Story Telling Michelle Johnston 483 5 Aug 14, 10:43am
           Story telling, yes please syameese 444 0 Aug 14, 11:33am
         PB has said "Film 3 will be..as Canon as possible.." Bombadil 427 0 Aug 14, 12:29pm
           Collapse I think this is why we have Azog Kilidoescartwheels 373 1 Aug 14, 1:39pm
               If it happens like this... Salmacis81 254 0 Aug 14, 6:44pm
           Ah, an interesting approach Kendalf 153 0 Aug 14, 11:52pm
       Interesting... Merenwen Vardamir 400 0 Aug 14, 12:40pm
       Collapse Consider who they cast as Dain: The Grey Elf 430 5 Aug 14, 12:51pm
           Collapse I am considering it... Riven Delve 409 4 Aug 14, 1:10pm
               Collapse Print is hard sometimes Ham_Sammy 397 1 Aug 14, 1:14pm
                   Connolly Noria 380 0 Aug 14, 1:40pm
               Oh. I wasn't aware he'd said that. The Grey Elf 210 0 Aug 14, 8:23pm
               I saw an interview with him as recently as in the last year or so... Boromir Stark 117 0 Aug 15, 7:56am
       Fili Noria 416 0 Aug 14, 12:55pm
       Collapse I don't think PJ is going to change the genealogy of Middle Earth Elarie 388 2 Aug 14, 1:09pm
           Collapse Wel, except for Azog. // sauget.diblosio 222 1 Aug 14, 7:17pm
               Azog Elarie 186 0 Aug 14, 9:32pm
       Collapse They should have shown Dain in AUJ, even if it was just the EE sycorax82 330 2 Aug 14, 3:22pm
           Collapse Agreed... Eleniel 296 1 Aug 14, 4:18pm
               Jackson's got a job on his hands Kendalf 163 0 Aug 14, 11:45pm
       Collapse You see, I would have thought it would be about the gold.... Spriggan 302 8 Aug 14, 5:02pm
           Collapse Yes, that makes sense... dormouse 274 5 Aug 14, 6:11pm
               Literary and hostorical precedents, yes Elanor of Rohan 234 0 Aug 14, 7:27pm
               Collapse I don't particularly see it as a bad light either. Spriggan 162 3 Aug 15, 12:12am
                   Collapse Perhaps not... Eleniel 124 1 Aug 15, 6:47am
                       I don't know if there does need to be a reason Spriggan 94 0 Aug 15, 11:08am
                   Me, too! Kendalf 117 0 Aug 15, 7:06am
           Collapse About the gold... Riven Delve 166 1 Aug 14, 11:42pm
               Oh yes I fully agree. Spriggan 161 0 Aug 15, 12:04am
       Fili will die Rickster 192 0 Aug 14, 10:20pm
       Much as a part of me would love this to be a possibility... Ceridwen 98 0 Aug 15, 12:56pm

  Collapse Trailer did play with 2D Guardians of the Galaxy at an AMC Eruonen 560 13 Aug 13, 3:19pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kerewyn)
       Collapse lol same here Loresilme 260 2 Aug 13, 6:11pm
           Collapse Agreed! KingFingolfin 239 1 Aug 13, 6:25pm
               I saw it on an IMAX screen too Kerewyn 26 0 Aug 16, 3:50am
       Collapse not fair phij2 207 5 Aug 13, 7:37pm
           Collapse Was it an AMC theater? I know it can vary even locally. Eruonen 198 4 Aug 13, 7:44pm
               Collapse no it wasn't.. phij2 195 3 Aug 13, 7:46pm
                   Hobbit trailer adam17017 186 0 Aug 13, 7:54pm
                   Collapse After NOT seeing the DOS trailer in multiple theaters last year Eruonen 184 1 Aug 13, 8:10pm
                       I guess I got lucky! DaughterofLaketown 178 0 Aug 13, 8:12pm
       Teaser trailer. delius82 148 0 Aug 13, 10:57pm
       Marcus Ultra Screen Eruwestial37 114 0 Aug 14, 5:16am
       Collapse I saw it too, with Guardians. Noria 86 1 Aug 14, 12:59pm
           I had heard it was showing witth 3D but I was pleasantly Eruonen 83 0 Aug 14, 2:28pm

Collapse Saruman's Most Serious Mistake..? Bombadil 888 9 Aug 13, 11:36am Jump to last post in thread (by KeenObserver)
       Saruman had studied Ring-lore Otaku-sempai 365 0 Aug 13, 4:05pm
       Mistakes? He made a few . . . Bracegirdle 318 0 Aug 13, 5:45pm
       Collapse Interesting observation! Loresilme 271 2 Aug 13, 6:20pm
         Collapse Brace-GIRrTY...Riddle fur ya.." Bombadil 242 1 Aug 13, 7:09pm
             Well, Thank 'eee Bombeee !! Sincerely BGeee // Bracegirdle 183 0 Aug 13, 9:24pm
       Collapse He did not make any mistake at all Rickster 102 3 Aug 14, 10:21pm
           Collapse Saruman is not an "actor" KeenObserver 44 2 Aug 16, 2:11am
             Collapse Methinks Rickster is a Trickster? // Bracegirdle 33 1 Aug 16, 3:39am
                 Most definitely KeenObserver 44 0 Aug 16, 5:23am

Collapse TH DOS SEE: DVD seems to be Walmart exclusive in USA! TheHutt 1402 24 Aug 13, 8:43am Jump to last post in thread (by Bard'sBlackArrow)
       Collapse Ugh BalrogTrainer 670 4 Aug 13, 10:36am
           Collapse You might shadow0421 614 1 Aug 13, 11:47am
               Well, i won't argue about Comcast sauget.diblosio 421 0 Aug 13, 5:25pm
           lol Loresilme 401 0 Aug 13, 6:16pm
           Yep delius82 310 0 Aug 13, 11:02pm
       Collapse I really hope this turns out to be not true Voronwë_the_Faithful 515 5 Aug 13, 3:39pm
           Collapse Amazon is in dispute with vendors Kilidoescartwheels 478 1 Aug 13, 4:36pm
               Yeah it is Amazon playing greedy Bard'sBlackArrow 7 0 Mon, 1:24pm
           Collapse Reply arbino man 83 2 Aug 15, 2:59pm
               Collapse Thanks very much! Voronwë_the_Faithful 80 1 Aug 15, 3:02pm
                   My first impression is that it will be a stripped-down version.... Rembrethil 82 0 Aug 15, 3:38pm
       Great! DaughterofLaketown 441 0 Aug 13, 5:20pm
       Is that Sauron behind Bilbo? There&ThereAgain 382 0 Aug 13, 7:36pm
       Collapse On a slightly related note... Earl 327 2 Aug 14, 1:00am
           Collapse In USA, seems to be... TheHutt 265 1 Aug 14, 7:58am
               I really do not want to support the exclusives... Arannir 239 0 Aug 14, 9:25am
       Collapse Bad news for me Noria 215 2 Aug 14, 1:07pm
           Collapse Yes, I'm in the same boat. Silverlode 144 1 Aug 14, 10:50pm
               I completely agree Earl 124 0 Aug 15, 1:04am
       Collapse UK motif revealed in HQ! TheHutt 176 3 Aug 14, 8:22pm
           Nice! // dormouse 138 0 Aug 14, 9:49pm
           Wow, thanks for this! Earl 136 0 Aug 14, 10:39pm
           :( KingTurgon 31 0 Aug 17, 4:37pm
       It's 5 discs arbino man 42 0 Aug 17, 6:11am

  Collapse New LEGO Bot5A sets - potential spoilers! Náron the Dwarf 3380 31 Aug 12, 10:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eleniel)
       Nice! Elessar 970 0 Aug 12, 10:54pm
       Collapse They look so epic!! LordotRings93 965 1 Aug 12, 11:06pm
           The Galadriel one is great DaughterofLaketown 879 0 Aug 13, 12:43am
       Elrond Aranaes 958 0 Aug 12, 11:10pm
       Orc Ballista/Eagles Shagrat 930 0 Aug 12, 11:24pm
       Collapse Mystery character Hamfast of Gamwich 970 10 Aug 12, 11:46pm
           Collapse .. Faleel 893 2 Aug 12, 11:52pm
               Collapse I thought it was Bain. tsmith675 874 1 Aug 13, 12:12am
                   If you zoom in... Aranaes 872 0 Aug 13, 12:37am
           Collapse Probably Bain...but look at Dad! Eleniel 318 6 Aug 13, 7:42pm
               Collapse Hmmmm? Voronwë_the_Faithful 260 5 Aug 13, 9:28pm
                   ... Faleel 249 0 Aug 13, 9:32pm
                   Having saved the pictures Spriggan 272 0 Aug 13, 10:21pm
                   Collapse Gone? Eleniel 174 2 Aug 14, 6:58am
                       Collapse You must Silverlode 166 1 Aug 14, 7:15am
                           Oh...lucky me, then! // Eleniel 99 0 Aug 14, 3:45pm
       Collapse Witch-king battle eh? Sweet! Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth 950 4 Aug 12, 11:51pm
           Agree... Ereinion Nénharma 702 0 Aug 13, 6:15am
           Collapse Glorfindel's/Galadriel's prophecy: DanielLB 757 2 Aug 13, 6:43am
               Collapse Are these lines somehwre in the appendices ? Guert 444 1 Aug 13, 4:10pm
                   It's in Appendix A DanielLB 439 0 Aug 13, 4:19pm
       Collapse Galadriel vexx801 856 1 Aug 13, 2:45am
           My same thoughts Spalko 697 0 Aug 13, 6:53am
       Collapse I wouldn't have too many expectations. DanielLB 730 3 Aug 13, 6:35am
           Collapse Thorins armour?! boldog 700 1 Aug 13, 7:26am
               If you have eye problems I must too! DaughterofLaketown 383 0 Aug 13, 5:28pm
           Beorn in Dol Guldur Otaku-sempai 456 0 Aug 13, 4:09pm
       Amazing that we get such big spoilers from Lego sets as a first source! adt100 663 0 Aug 13, 9:50am
       Collapse What...? zalmoxis 454 1 Aug 13, 5:17pm
           ..... Faleel 426 0 Aug 13, 5:19pm
       Dáin's Red Axe! Náron the Dwarf 269 0 Aug 13, 10:53pm

  Collapse Beorn in Dol Guldur vexx801 868 6 Aug 12, 10:37pm Jump to last post in thread (by Rickster)
       Collapse I think it'll be the third film... Dcole4 392 1 Aug 12, 10:57pm
           yes.. I> think you are right Rickster 61 0 Aug 14, 10:24pm
       Collapse I think the mention of torture Spriggan 373 1 Aug 12, 11:07pm
           Ah yes. vexx801 274 0 Aug 13, 2:40am
       Collapse Flashback in the EE surely Shagrat 385 1 Aug 12, 11:29pm
           Nazgul vexx801 317 0 Aug 13, 2:48am

  Collapse Empire visits The Hobbit's VFX team Carne 1106 9 Aug 12, 2:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by joec_34)
       Collapse Wow SafeUnderHill 486 4 Aug 12, 4:37pm
           Collapse Nobodee'ze Purfekt! // Otaku-sempai 400 3 Aug 12, 4:48pm
             Collapse One thingie ? WHOor WHAT? would ...BEGAT Bolg Bombadil 411 2 Aug 12, 4:58pm
                   Collapse Tolkien tells us that there are Orc-women. Otaku-sempai 382 1 Aug 12, 5:12pm
                       Maybe they're uglier joec_34 95 0 Aug 13, 3:44pm
       Collapse I hope... Arannir 349 2 Aug 12, 6:38pm
           Collapse "Spherical Harmonics Lighting" KeenObserver 235 1 Aug 12, 10:13pm
               One more thing KeenObserver 234 0 Aug 12, 10:22pm
       Pretty cool Elessar 215 0 Aug 12, 10:53pm

  Collapse Does anyone else want the end credits to be like ROTK? boldog 997 26 Aug 12, 11:00am Jump to last post in thread (by Oleander Took)
       I certainly do! DaoinSidhe 492 0 Aug 12, 11:24am
       Absolutely... TheHutt 485 0 Aug 12, 11:33am
       Without a doubt Elessar 434 0 Aug 12, 12:59pm
       You bet! // BlackFox 400 0 Aug 12, 1:01pm
       I think the question should be: Voronwë_the_Faithful 469 0 Aug 12, 1:03pm
       I definitely do! LordotRings93 415 0 Aug 12, 1:04pm
       Collapse Not sure Elarie 418 3 Aug 12, 2:41pm
           Collapse I don't think it would be a problem Kilidoescartwheels 400 2 Aug 12, 2:48pm
               Collapse Sketches of the dwarves Elarie 388 1 Aug 12, 3:13pm
                   I'm pretty sure Kim 346 0 Aug 12, 4:20pm
       absolutely! Ham_Sammy 361 0 Aug 12, 3:09pm
       Collapse Nope Darkstone 393 2 Aug 12, 3:35pm
           Collapse Would you accept paper mache? // Voronwë_the_Faithful 326 1 Aug 12, 4:33pm
             Thang you Berry Buch...HUTT..except...Bomby.. Bombadil 326 0 Aug 12, 4:52pm
       Collapse No, sauget.diblosio 326 1 Aug 12, 5:17pm
           Re: No, KeenObserver 247 0 Aug 12, 8:39pm
       No! Estel78 311 0 Aug 12, 6:01pm
       I'm inclined to say yes. Pipe Dream 232 0 Aug 12, 8:46pm
       No.... Bladerunner 188 0 Aug 13, 12:12am
       Well if doing the credits were up to me..... the 13th warrior 186 0 Aug 13, 12:36am
       YES!!! Or, at least something that works as beautifully// Nira 151 0 Aug 13, 2:26am
       Collapse No davidjUK 106 1 Aug 13, 1:02pm
           How about... TheHutt 94 0 Aug 13, 2:00pm
       No, thank you Glorfindela 89 0 Aug 13, 2:24pm
       I´d like that ending. Merenwen Vardamir 54 0 Aug 13, 2:29pm
       I loved the ROTK credits... Oleander Took 58 0 Aug 13, 3:44pm

  Collapse Yazneg on the DoS EE figurine cover? Lio 932 5 Aug 11, 11:26pm Jump to last post in thread (by sauget.diblosio)
       Collapse The whole thing with Azog/Bolg/Yazneg is the bane of these movies.....! sycorax82 511 3 Aug 12, 12:08am
           Collapse According to the screenwriters bungobaggins 425 2 Aug 12, 4:32am
               Collapse Yea Azaghâl 285 1 Aug 12, 9:37am
                   WB knows a not-very-good thing when it sees it. // sauget.diblosio 143 0 Aug 12, 6:09pm
       I think you're right Lindele 470 0 Aug 12, 12:27am

  Collapse What is your expectations about Saruman in BOTFA? erdildeniz 1144 26 Aug 11, 11:26pm Jump to last post in thread (by sycorax82)
       Collapse Definitely no prologue... Dcole4 653 5 Aug 11, 11:33pm
           Collapse It could be quite a nice scene with the palantir, as it is something the books don't do. Spriggan 259 4 Aug 12, 7:19pm
               Collapse I think the palantír should remain under wraps. Cillendor 228 3 Aug 12, 9:19pm
                   Surely it's the difference between Gandalf knowing Spriggan 219 0 Aug 12, 9:56pm
                   Collapse Return of the King vexx801 221 1 Aug 12, 10:22pm
                       Absolutely. Spriggan 206 0 Aug 12, 10:37pm
       Collapse Green Screen DjU 634 19 Aug 11, 11:37pm
           Collapse Not sure about it.. erdildeniz 601 18 Aug 11, 11:41pm
               Collapse All they built at Pinewood was small sections of Bag End sycorax82 580 17 Aug 12, 12:05am
                   Collapse but the white council production video? erdildeniz 574 7 Aug 12, 12:17am
                       Collapse They had a double in NZ Dcole4 553 4 Aug 12, 12:54am
                           Collapse we hope there will be lot's about him in the movie Rickster 517 3 Aug 12, 3:39am
                               Collapse He deserves it, yes Spalko 464 2 Aug 12, 7:01am
                                   Collapse IF you remember What they Shot @ Pinewood Bombadil 415 1 Aug 12, 11:49am
                                       Even Dol Guldur set in NZ.. erdildeniz 144 0 Aug 13, 1:02pm
                       If anyone's interested TnuaccayM 387 0 Aug 12, 1:46pm
                       If KingTurgon 313 0 Aug 12, 5:01pm
                   Collapse That we know of... sauget.diblosio 306 8 Aug 12, 5:59pm
                       Collapse I doubt they will even need to do a lot of cgi.... adt100 189 7 Aug 13, 9:59am
                           Gandalf vs Sauron erdildeniz 178 0 Aug 13, 12:57pm
                           Collapse No kidding! sauget.diblosio 132 5 Aug 13, 5:37pm
                               Collapse What??? Which scenes did Martin play as Old Bilbo? Cillendor 96 4 Aug 13, 9:36pm
                                   Collapse I think he is talking about... Faleel 89 1 Aug 13, 10:39pm
                                       The are shots in Bag End that are Martin in prosthetic makeup sycorax82 31 0 Aug 16, 12:08pm
                                   Collapse quite a few shots Mooseboy018 84 1 Aug 13, 11:09pm
                                       There are some shots of Ian Holm walking around Bag End. sauget.diblosio 72 0 Aug 14, 4:05am

  Collapse Peter Jackson Production Videos for BOTFA? Ithilisa 1232 17 Aug 11, 8:03pm Jump to last post in thread (by Arannir)
       Collapse There are non Azaghâl 639 2 Aug 11, 8:29pm
           Collapse They're probably recording DOS EE commentaries at this point tiamy 309 1 Aug 12, 3:57pm
               Earthquake Ardamírë 308 0 Aug 12, 4:23pm
       Collapse well. deskp 487 12 Aug 12, 2:31am
           Collapse I kind of doubt it. sauget.diblosio 271 11 Aug 12, 5:21pm
               Collapse well deskp 270 10 Aug 12, 5:23pm
                   Collapse Seems like they've pretty much given up on them though, sauget.diblosio 284 9 Aug 12, 5:43pm
                       Collapse Yeah, I'm not keeping my hopes up either Ardamírë 246 8 Aug 12, 7:00pm
                           Collapse Guys KeenObserver 245 7 Aug 12, 8:11pm
                               Collapse Post comic con AncalagontheBlack 230 1 Aug 12, 8:48pm
                                   Different approach KeenObserver 230 0 Aug 12, 9:02pm
                               Collapse KeenObserver, I hope you're right Ithilisa 174 4 Aug 13, 3:31am
                                   Collapse I share that sentiment KeenObserver 106 3 Aug 13, 5:24pm
                                       Collapse What is he supposed to show? Arannir 88 2 Aug 13, 7:07pm
                                           Collapse Anything he can muster KeenObserver 74 1 Aug 13, 7:59pm
                                               I am sure he will publish something... Arannir 71 0 Aug 13, 8:54pm
       Originality leonmuse 220 0 Aug 12, 9:22pm

  Collapse Will Billy Connolly actually be in BOTFA? Annatar598 1352 12 Aug 11, 2:44pm Jump to last post in thread (by QuackingTroll)
       um deskp 670 0 Aug 11, 2:48pm
       All I know is that Billy is still listed in the synopsis on the offical movie site... Eleniel 638 0 Aug 11, 2:51pm
       Billy Connolly as Dain is in, as confirmed by the BOTFA article in Empire Magazine DeadRabbits 662 0 Aug 11, 2:58pm
       Of course he's in it SafeUnderHill 612 0 Aug 11, 2:59pm
     mixed feelings being a Thorin fan but Dain will be there Avandel 625 0 Aug 11, 3:02pm
       Collapse Maybe Peter wants Dain to be a surprise until he appears in the movie sycorax82 572 2 Aug 11, 3:58pm
           Collapse no deskp 305 1 Aug 12, 12:48am
               True. Otaku-sempai 160 0 Aug 12, 4:55pm
       Billy was in Wellington in May. Moahunter 398 0 Aug 11, 8:45pm
       as one of my favorite Tolkien characters.... Bladerunner 348 0 Aug 11, 9:55pm
       I am really looking forward to Billy Connolly's Dain. sauget.diblosio 154 0 Aug 12, 5:41pm
       They probably cut him QuackingTroll 114 0 Aug 13, 12:37pm

  Collapse So are we still going to get a prologue or not? boldog 1155 15 Aug 11, 10:50am Jump to last post in thread (by There&ThereAgain)
       well deskp 568 0 Aug 11, 11:08am
       You'll have your answer in December Lurker in the Mirk 532 0 Aug 11, 11:18am
       It depends a little where the film focuses first. Spriggan 525 0 Aug 11, 11:22am
       Collapse I really think we do need one Shagrat 551 1 Aug 11, 11:23am
           Fan fiction time ... morro91 466 0 Aug 11, 12:55pm
       Collapse Dwarven meeting Arannir 522 1 Aug 11, 11:47am
           That's what I think too Ham_Sammy 385 0 Aug 11, 1:52pm
       According to empire movie is gonna be the shorter of all six films(two hours and a half) so... Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 500 0 Aug 11, 1:11pm
       Collapse I'm pretty sure there'll be a prologue dubulous 451 1 Aug 11, 1:33pm
           I think there could well be a prologue... Eleniel 371 0 Aug 11, 2:54pm
       Hope they do and would like to see.. MasterOrc 341 0 Aug 11, 3:40pm
       Collapse It would be amazing to see a Smaug prologue sycorax82 366 3 Aug 11, 4:08pm
           Collapse The childhood of Smaug... Sebastian the Hedgehog 346 2 Aug 11, 4:18pm
               Collapse The golden cup... Darkstone 343 1 Aug 11, 4:30pm
                   Just spit out my coffee There&ThereAgain 300 0 Aug 11, 5:41pm

  Collapse If gandalf didn't leave the company at mirkwood….?? MouthofSauron 592 2 Aug 11, 3:48am Jump to last post in thread (by ElendilTheShort)
       I think he would have been the voice of reason to keep Thorin form going over the edge DaughterofLaketown 320 0 Aug 11, 4:03am
       he knew the power of the dragon ElendilTheShort 285 0 Aug 11, 7:18am
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