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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Collapse Bolg at Dol Guldur Yngwulff 1186 34 Aug 18 2012, 9:46pm Jump to last post in thread (by MouthofSauron)
       The information has been confirmed by WB DanielLB 630 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:49pm
       i could see that MouthofSauron 484 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:42pm
       Collapse I agree with that but whatever happens they'll make it work well lurtz2010 462 5 Aug 18 2012, 11:25pm
           Azkaban ? Kangi Ska 413 0 Aug 19 2012, 12:06am
           Collapse well i'm not negative about it... MouthofSauron 393 3 Aug 19 2012, 12:09am
               Collapse the bird man has spoken Yngwulff 381 2 Aug 19 2012, 12:14am
                   Collapse You Talkin' to me? Kangi Ska 356 1 Aug 19 2012, 12:43am
                       If the shoe fits Yngwulff 359 0 Aug 19 2012, 12:52am
       Collapse Why speculat on tidbits of information of which some or all may be untrue? // Kangi Ska 385 7 Aug 19 2012, 12:05am
           Collapse what are you thoughts on all this Azog and Bolg business? lurtz2010 390 6 Aug 19 2012, 12:21am
               well Yngwulff 377 0 Aug 19 2012, 12:31am
               Collapse I have been busy and have not sorted it out yet. Kangi Ska 358 1 Aug 19 2012, 1:03am
                   Peter losing the core of The Hobbit?? MouthofSauron 352 0 Aug 19 2012, 1:22am
               Collapse Oh, but my dear Lurtz, I have suggested no such thing. I merely said that AinurOlorin 344 2 Aug 19 2012, 5:44am
                   Collapse ok? lurtz2010 257 1 Aug 19 2012, 10:39am
                       right now it seems Azog has turned into Yazneg MouthofSauron 228 0 Aug 19 2012, 2:48pm
       Collapse Bolg's Motivations Otaku-sempai 346 4 Aug 19 2012, 4:09am
           well i agree with you to a certain extent but MouthofSauron 317 0 Aug 19 2012, 4:33am
           Collapse No evidence but Lacrimae Rerum 268 2 Aug 19 2012, 9:34am
               Collapse But, how much was he actually aware of? Otaku-sempai 159 1 Aug 19 2012, 5:51pm
                   Oh quite agree. Lacrimae Rerum 163 0 Aug 19 2012, 6:39pm
       My guess is Aitieuriskon 194 0 Aug 19 2012, 3:29pm
       Collapse From a reliable source: Kangi Ska 210 4 Aug 19 2012, 3:36pm
           But we know he had email dernwyn 188 0 Aug 19 2012, 3:50pm
           Collapse Sauron didn't have a blog but maybe the Necromancer did?? MouthofSauron 163 2 Aug 19 2012, 5:51pm
               Collapse Necromancer=Sauron Kangi Ska 161 1 Aug 19 2012, 6:02pm
                   was a joke! MouthofSauron 149 0 Aug 19 2012, 6:26pm
       Collapse I think it is unfair ElendilTheShort 116 6 Aug 20 2012, 8:28am
           Collapse You're responding to another poster's theory... dormouse 104 5 Aug 20 2012, 8:36am
               Collapse I was under the (possibly mistaken) impression ElendilTheShort 121 4 Aug 20 2012, 8:54am
                   I had been given the same impression (Bolg at Dol Guldur and Azog alive) Kangi Ska 91 0 Aug 20 2012, 2:54pm
                   Collapse the Azog scenes... MouthofSauron 70 2 Aug 20 2012, 5:13pm
                       Collapse Of course Shelob'sAppetite 58 1 Aug 20 2012, 5:34pm
                           we shall see in a few months! MouthofSauron 122 0 Aug 20 2012, 5:44pm

  Moved: Tolkien Estate HATES these movies? DemoElite - - Aug 18 2012, 9:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by DemoElite)

  Collapse Denny DeVito cast as Azog, Carrot Top as Bolg!!?? Shelob'sAppetite 1047 18 Aug 18 2012, 8:39pm Jump to last post in thread (by kzer_za)
       To quote The Guide... Tim 469 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:40pm
       Don Rickles as Gandalf? TomthePilgrim 366 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:08pm
       Collapse I heard Paul McCartney was Azog / DanielLB 339 6 Aug 18 2012, 9:09pm
           Collapse And if Ringo will play Bolg . . . TomthePilgrim 324 2 Aug 18 2012, 9:10pm
               Collapse I did make a joke about a certain ex-wife to McCartney DanielLB 315 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:19pm
                   I was wondering . . . TomthePilgrim 295 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:22pm
           Collapse You'd heard incorrectly...it was "Paul McCartney wrote a song" Captain Salt 253 2 Aug 18 2012, 10:31pm
               Collapse Well that's rare! DanielLB 240 1 Aug 18 2012, 10:34pm
                   Oh, he did not! Captain Salt 234 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:40pm
       Brian Doyle-Murray as Thranduil? TomthePilgrim 298 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:23pm
       I'll repeat my prior requests...Woody Allen as Bilbo, Samuel L. Jackson as Bard, and Gilbert Gottfried as Smaug!// Captain Salt 252 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:28pm
       John C. Reilly as Bilbo MouthofSauron 235 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:41pm
       Collapse John C. McGinley as Thorin. TomthePilgrim 222 2 Aug 18 2012, 10:47pm
           Collapse Cleese's Saruman...brilliant! Captain Salt 223 1 Aug 18 2012, 11:01pm
               too silly . . . hmmmmmmmmm . . . TomthePilgrim 201 0 Aug 18 2012, 11:28pm
       Jim Belushi and Dan Ackroyd Are the Blues Wizards DemoElite 185 0 Aug 19 2012, 12:29am
       ? Kangi Ska 189 0 Aug 19 2012, 12:40am
       My unconfirmed sources say Bolg's been renamed to "Blog" kzer_za 327 0 Aug 19 2012, 1:18am

  Collapse Two actors cast for Azog?? Now i'm really confused.. MouthofSauron 1687 67 Aug 18 2012, 7:27pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse How many times will this come up! DanielLB 638 6 Aug 18 2012, 7:29pm
           Collapse yes but a statement from Conan Stevens saying..... MouthofSauron 635 5 Aug 18 2012, 7:30pm
               Collapse He said that in May... dormouse 548 1 Aug 18 2012, 7:36pm
                   perhaps... MouthofSauron 469 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:14pm
               Collapse It's out of date :-) DanielLB 507 2 Aug 18 2012, 7:38pm
                   Collapse Apparently, even Rawls as Azog is out-of-date... Otaku-sempai 513 1 Aug 18 2012, 7:50pm
                       Oh yeah ... forgot about that DanielLB 468 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:57pm
       Collapse The whole thing has me befuddled . . . TomthePilgrim 448 1 Aug 18 2012, 8:19pm
           one is the voice, the other is the physical character DemoElite 438 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:36pm
       Collapse Scale Doubles ...??? Gimli1252 412 9 Aug 18 2012, 9:02pm
           Collapse Why would Azog be played by both Stevens and Rawls? / DanielLB 426 7 Aug 18 2012, 9:04pm
               Collapse For the same reason that Tall Paul plays Gandalf...// Gimli1252 402 5 Aug 18 2012, 9:06pm
                   Collapse But you don't see Paul as Gandalf in the films DanielLB 401 4 Aug 18 2012, 9:08pm
                       Collapse Neither Azog because he is in full make up.... Gimli1252 403 3 Aug 18 2012, 9:13pm
                           Duh! DanielLB 383 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:15pm
                           Collapse so your saying... MouthofSauron 380 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:17pm
                               I wonder if there is a Beorn scale double DanielLB 377 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:18pm
               the simple answer could very well be MouthofSauron 398 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:10pm
           but why would.. MouthofSauron 391 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:14pm
       Collapse Bill Murray as Elrond Yngwulff 369 3 Aug 18 2012, 9:36pm
           and will ferrell voice acting Smaug MouthofSauron 370 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:38pm
           Collapse Helena Bonham Carter as Melian! / DanielLB 354 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:45pm
               Daniel day lewis as Gollum LMAO! Yngwulff 343 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:47pm
       Collapse All we know thus far is that: Captain Salt 348 10 Aug 18 2012, 10:15pm
           Collapse But Azog still exists according to the WB figurine descriptions DanielLB 308 6 Aug 18 2012, 10:18pm
               Which could be outdated Captain Salt 318 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:22pm
               Collapse wait so now Azog does not exist in The Hobbit films??? MouthofSauron 308 4 Aug 18 2012, 10:33pm
                   Collapse Nobody knows! :P Captain Salt 288 3 Aug 18 2012, 10:35pm
                       Collapse Sooner than that DanielLB 278 1 Aug 18 2012, 10:37pm
                           A McCartney Hobbit toy! YES! I'd buy that for a dollar! Captain Salt 296 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:44pm
                       imdb credits.... MouthofSauron 280 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:38pm
           Collapse geesh...ok so.... MouthofSauron 302 2 Aug 18 2012, 10:26pm
               Collapse Nope, again it was Captain Salt 290 1 Aug 18 2012, 10:33pm
                   i see MouthofSauron 281 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:35pm
       Collapse Here Carne 256 1 Aug 18 2012, 11:16pm
           sources? MouthofSauron 271 0 Aug 18 2012, 11:18pm
       The answer is, of course Shelob'sAppetite 203 0 Aug 19 2012, 4:13pm
       Collapse Manu Bennett is listed as Azog over at IMDb Carne 174 29 Aug 19 2012, 11:52pm
           Collapse Looks like Bennett is indeed Azog Captain Salt 159 28 Aug 20 2012, 2:32am
               Collapse Gives us an idea of the size of the role Carne 147 5 Aug 20 2012, 2:40am
                   Collapse but what about Conan Stevens??? MouthofSauron 140 3 Aug 20 2012, 2:47am
                       Collapse No, he was first cast as Azog but then got the role of Bolg Carne 132 2 Aug 20 2012, 2:48am
                           Collapse ok now this is more complex than prometheus and inception combined MouthofSauron 129 1 Aug 20 2012, 2:55am
                               It probably wasn't this complicated over in the studios DanielLB 168 0 Aug 20 2012, 7:40am
                   Well, you should really ;) Captain Salt 120 0 Aug 20 2012, 3:01am
               Collapse this is more complex than prometheus haha MouthofSauron 133 7 Aug 20 2012, 2:51am
                   Collapse Here's how it went: Carne 151 6 Aug 20 2012, 2:59am
                       Collapse gotcha MouthofSauron 123 4 Aug 20 2012, 3:03am
                           Collapse Correcto Carne 122 3 Aug 20 2012, 3:04am
                               Collapse finally....we got to the bottom of this!! MouthofSauron 122 2 Aug 20 2012, 3:05am
                                   Collapse Until they start swapping them around again Carne 180 1 Aug 20 2012, 3:06am
                                       i wouldn't be surprised! MouthofSauron 178 0 Aug 20 2012, 3:10am
                       Story changes dave_lf 118 0 Aug 20 2012, 1:29pm
               Collapse You will have to excuse my lack of twitter knowledge DanielLB 166 8 Aug 20 2012, 7:39am
                   Collapse Well, it doesn't appear on his timeline at the moment... dormouse 186 7 Aug 20 2012, 8:24am
                       Collapse It might be your end dormouse :-) DanielLB 147 1 Aug 20 2012, 8:30am
                           Ah, but you haven't found the other Manu Bennett yet... ;-) // dormouse 154 0 Aug 20 2012, 8:37am
                       Collapse @truemanubennett is legit. Carne 160 3 Aug 20 2012, 12:21pm
                           Collapse Yes, thanks for confirming that... dormouse 136 2 Aug 20 2012, 12:41pm
                               Collapse No problemo Carne 124 1 Aug 20 2012, 1:04pm
                                   Unless he's cut from the film ... DanielLB 132 0 Aug 20 2012, 1:08pm
                       Recent Addition? TheSexyBeard 127 0 Aug 20 2012, 1:32pm
               Collapse Azog MrCere 87 1 Aug 20 2012, 8:26pm
                   I e-mailed his agent just to be sure Carne 89 0 Aug 20 2012, 8:52pm
               Collapse Sue that Bennett isn't voicing the Great Goblin? Otaku-sempai 79 2 Aug 20 2012, 8:51pm
                   Collapse But we know Barry Humphries is the Great Goblin DanielLB 77 1 Aug 20 2012, 8:56pm
                       Yes, of course... Otaku-sempai 136 0 Aug 20 2012, 9:01pm

  Collapse My Dear TheOneRing kindred, how fast thou dost retreat from the lines you draw in the sand, concerning The Hobbit AinurOlorin 1738 84 Aug 18 2012, 2:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by warhorse)
       Everything is pure conjecture. Same happened with LOTR. Gorbag 802 0 Aug 18 2012, 2:55pm
       People don't like to say they don't know. Lacrimae Rerum 721 0 Aug 18 2012, 2:57pm
       People have a right to change their minds based on new information, and their reasons should be their own, not subject to a speculative "reality check" MatthewJer18 712 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:02pm
       I will admit... DanielLB 702 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:06pm
       I thought 3 films was a great idea from the beginning Shelob'sAppetite 689 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:17pm
       well we dont need a reality check ..noooo thank you! Lusitano 673 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:24pm
       Collapse I think they should make ten films Spaldron 678 7 Aug 18 2012, 3:27pm
           Can we have Bombadil on an Oliphaunt as well? / DanielLB 632 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:50pm
           Collapse You have a right to your opinion but I dont like these ideas. Dlanor da Great 353 4 Aug 19 2012, 12:26am
               Collapse Erm..... Spaldron 345 3 Aug 19 2012, 1:15am
                   Collapse Didn't anyone tell you that sarcasm does not work on the boards? Kangi Ska 325 1 Aug 19 2012, 1:19am
                       Damn, I knew there was something.... Spaldron 334 0 Aug 19 2012, 1:24am
                   Yes I know, I was being sarcastic as well Dlanor da Great 124 0 Aug 20 2012, 6:21pm
           I am blinded by the light! Kangi Ska 336 0 Aug 19 2012, 1:11am
       Collapse PJ's The Hobbit will be very different from Tolkien's Kassandros 692 1 Aug 18 2012, 3:30pm
           I think PJ's films Shelob'sAppetite 672 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:31pm
       I agree with some of what you say, but kzer_za 646 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:54pm
       Collapse ...and what of us who started off with praise? Aragorn the Elfstone 603 5 Aug 18 2012, 5:42pm
           Collapse Well, of course, shame on you from beginning to end and at all points between lol AinurOlorin 575 4 Aug 18 2012, 6:11pm
               yes Lusitano 557 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:22pm
               Collapse On that note, I heartily agree... Aragorn the Elfstone 562 2 Aug 18 2012, 6:22pm
                   Indeed. AinurOlorin 520 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:05pm
                   Hmmm, I'm one of those people! warhorse 84 0 Aug 28 2012, 1:17am
       Collapse My Scribbles in the Sand.... Bladerunner 545 15 Aug 18 2012, 7:28pm
           A very detailed consideration AinurOlorin 527 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:37pm
           Collapse Speculation is just that... Buchanicus 475 13 Aug 18 2012, 8:46pm
               Collapse Not if a change is made. Lots of minor changes are just fine. AinurOlorin 453 10 Aug 18 2012, 9:08pm
                   Collapse They are both changes. But I wouldn't object to either on that basis. Lacrimae Rerum 449 9 Aug 18 2012, 9:28pm
                       Collapse I absolutely cannot. I can picture a situation where it would do a fantastic job of AinurOlorin 296 8 Aug 19 2012, 5:08am
                           Collapse Well an adaptation Lacrimae Rerum 294 7 Aug 19 2012, 9:50am
                               Collapse And, at some point Lacrimae, it ceases to be a direct adaptation and becomes instead AinurOlorin 197 6 Aug 19 2012, 5:38pm
                                   Collapse I am not aware of any definition of that point Lacrimae Rerum 165 5 Aug 19 2012, 6:34pm
                                       Agreed Shelob'sAppetite 158 0 Aug 19 2012, 6:49pm
                                       Collapse Not only does the distinction exist (hard as it may be to pinpoint, admittedly) AinurOlorin 159 3 Aug 19 2012, 7:01pm
                                           I expect nothing of the sort! Lacrimae Rerum 148 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:11pm
                                           Collapse "increasingly the news we are getting".... dormouse 283 1 Aug 19 2012, 10:10pm
                                               I agree Tim 262 0 Aug 19 2012, 10:31pm
               Collapse Wasn't sure how to respond.... Bladerunner 250 1 Aug 19 2012, 2:00pm
                   No...I wasn't replying to you...just making a general statement. Buchanicus 144 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:14pm
       Er.... well... dormouse 521 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:34pm
       Collapse It seems that these films continually confound out expectations (for better or worse) Captain Salt 408 1 Aug 18 2012, 10:58pm
           This is exactly how i feel imin 344 0 Aug 18 2012, 11:42pm
       Undead orcs, undead Smaug Ziggy Stardust 394 0 Aug 18 2012, 11:41pm
       My Kangi Ska 321 0 Aug 19 2012, 1:31am
       Collapse My opinions have never changed and never will Sinister71 248 30 Aug 19 2012, 3:55pm
           Collapse I take it you are upset with the way things have gone. Kangi Ska 223 1 Aug 19 2012, 4:30pm
               extremely upset actually Sinister71 211 0 Aug 19 2012, 5:01pm
           Collapse All Right there Zac! (Dr. Seuss Reffernce lol) I certainly admire your constancy, AinurOlorin 203 24 Aug 19 2012, 6:24pm
               Collapse seems to me though Sinister71 237 23 Aug 20 2012, 12:26am
                   Collapse Adapt or die. Bumblingidiot 228 21 Aug 20 2012, 2:47am
                       Collapse I agree Sinister71 219 17 Aug 20 2012, 2:51am
                           Collapse The context is that of the post-LOTR reader Lacrimae Rerum 166 14 Aug 20 2012, 12:32pm
                               Collapse wel if they want an abstract adaptation maybe PJ should have hired Sinister71 148 13 Aug 20 2012, 3:20pm
                                   Collapse Would you really place Tim Burton and Michael Bay on the same level? Flagg 140 1 Aug 20 2012, 3:49pm
                                       I am inclined to agree with you on this. AinurOlorin 99 0 Aug 20 2012, 9:22pm
                                   Collapse Not sure I understand this Lacrimae Rerum 134 10 Aug 20 2012, 3:50pm
                                       Collapse "They have a cave troll..." Spaldron 158 9 Aug 20 2012, 4:00pm
                                           Collapse I think PJ is a far better director than Bay Shelob'sAppetite 138 7 Aug 20 2012, 4:10pm
                                               Collapse I must disagree Spaldron 127 2 Aug 20 2012, 4:20pm
                                                   Still Shelob'sAppetite 123 0 Aug 20 2012, 5:46pm
                                                   Yes, could we Phibbus 92 0 Aug 20 2012, 9:35pm
                                               Collapse I agree Bay is not as good as Jackson Sinister71 113 3 Aug 20 2012, 4:54pm
                                                   What agenda? Spaldron 102 0 Aug 20 2012, 6:01pm
                                                   Collapse No agenda Ziggy Stardust 83 1 Aug 21 2012, 12:24am
                                                       Silly hippie... Kangi Ska 81 0 Aug 21 2012, 12:41am
                                           So your telling me Bay isn't a multi million dollar making director? Sinister71 76 0 Aug 21 2012, 1:20am
                           Collapse Can you see any bird crap? Spaldron 58 1 Aug 21 2012, 2:43pm
                               well it is a publicity ahot Sinister71 45 0 Aug 21 2012, 5:17pm
                       Collapse But it takes someone special Kangi Ska 210 2 Aug 20 2012, 2:53am
                           Collapse well I personally don't want more LOTR Sinister71 206 1 Aug 20 2012, 3:07am
                               Then thank Ilúvatar you're not directing these... Spaldron 195 0 Aug 20 2012, 12:01pm
                   It always seemed to me that Tolkien was - Hanzkaz 174 0 Aug 20 2012, 9:36am
           Collapse Have you seen the films already? Spaldron 244 2 Aug 20 2012, 12:53am
               Collapse And your obviously ignoring material being presented Sinister71 236 1 Aug 20 2012, 1:59am
                   Enough Silverlode 216 0 Aug 20 2012, 2:59am
       Collapse hmm Escapist 189 7 Aug 19 2012, 6:04pm
           Collapse When the new information is nothing more than a confirmation of things one claims to have been AinurOlorin 171 6 Aug 19 2012, 6:36pm
               Collapse It sounds like a lot of the invented material Escapist 165 5 Aug 19 2012, 6:43pm
                   Collapse thing is Sinister71 155 4 Aug 19 2012, 7:11pm
                       Collapse There is an enemy and more than a footnote about the necromancer in the appendices. // Escapist 144 3 Aug 19 2012, 7:23pm
                           Collapse and using that information Sinister71 314 2 Aug 19 2012, 7:28pm
                               Collapse You are in luck! Escapist 308 1 Aug 19 2012, 7:32pm
                                   I read the book frequently Sinister71 311 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:37pm
       1) There's no point in complaining about things we can't change. 2) Most of us are determined to *enjoy* these films when they are finished. Oin K 41 0 Aug 22 2012, 9:25pm

Collapse Remember two years ago? macfalk 1358 31 Aug 18 2012, 1:18pm Jump to last post in thread (by Oin K)
       Collapse Thorin with antlers versus Thorin with short black beard. Kangi Ska 661 1 Aug 18 2012, 1:43pm
           We shall see macfalk 600 0 Aug 18 2012, 1:54pm
       Crazy, isn't it? DanielLB 576 0 Aug 18 2012, 2:02pm
       Collapse Thorin with a short bear AND antlers? AARRGGHHHHH!!!!! TomthePilgrim 609 4 Aug 18 2012, 2:19pm
           Collapse Bravo! Bravo! *Thunderous applause* // burgahobbit 445 1 Aug 18 2012, 5:01pm
               Thank You . . . TomthePilgrim 422 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:17pm
           Collapse Amen to this! dormouse 246 1 Aug 19 2012, 7:51am
               yes Lusitano 179 0 Aug 19 2012, 3:13pm
       Collapse I never experienced this eucatastrophe Shelob'sAppetite 545 19 Aug 18 2012, 3:18pm
           Collapse They're not out of context. macfalk 495 18 Aug 18 2012, 3:49pm
               Collapse I don't blindly defend GDT at all Shelob'sAppetite 494 4 Aug 18 2012, 3:53pm
                   Collapse GDT and PJ macfalk 491 3 Aug 18 2012, 4:29pm
                       Collapse Understood Shelob'sAppetite 461 1 Aug 18 2012, 4:40pm
                           Speaking of dead horses Oin K 94 0 Aug 22 2012, 9:08pm
                       GDT said that? Ziggy Stardust 300 0 Aug 18 2012, 11:33pm
               Collapse Just setting the record straight Flagg 170 12 Aug 19 2012, 4:36pm
                   Collapse GdT used an antlered crown for the Elf King in Hellboy II. Kangi Ska 146 11 Aug 19 2012, 5:59pm
                       Collapse Also Shelob'sAppetite 130 10 Aug 19 2012, 6:40pm
                           Collapse Impractical Otaku-sempai 130 8 Aug 19 2012, 6:50pm
                               Collapse Where does this idea of "practical-minded" dwarves come from? Shelob'sAppetite 133 4 Aug 19 2012, 6:58pm
                                   Collapse You may want to check out the original thread, 'Del Toro's Smaug' Flagg 117 1 Aug 19 2012, 7:08pm
                                       A good read Shelob'sAppetite 92 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:28pm
                                   Collapse You read an awful lot into my very brief description... Otaku-sempai 106 1 Aug 19 2012, 7:32pm
                                       Depends on how you define "glory" Shelob'sAppetite 91 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:36pm
                               Collapse but is it practical Sinister71 90 2 Aug 19 2012, 7:41pm
                                   Collapse Now, I never brought that into it... Otaku-sempai 86 1 Aug 19 2012, 7:44pm
                                       thats all i can think of when i see Thorin's "oakenshield" Sinister71 91 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:47pm
                           Several reasons macfalk 109 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:13pm
       Yup Tim 436 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:58pm
       To loosely quote another poster R11 427 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:33pm
       Yes, it is a joy to finally have the arrival of the films at hand... Captain Salt 294 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:48pm

  Collapse magazine pictures of the Dwarfs Orc13 2224 35 Aug 18 2012, 1:01am Jump to last post in thread (by TheRealBeren)
       Collapse Terribly boring group shot, don't ya think? GoodGuyA 858 2 Aug 18 2012, 1:04am
           I really like it DanielLB 635 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:00am
           Not sure how a still photo can be boring Shelob'sAppetite 609 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:55am
       Collapse I wonder if this really hints at the three tiers of the Dwarf Company? Captain Salt 823 7 Aug 18 2012, 1:37am
           Collapse I thought this Seaber 716 5 Aug 18 2012, 2:23am
               Just a stray thought...though, it's close to my predicted list: Captain Salt 660 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:08am
               Collapse Let's be honest, this is not a school play where all the kids get equal parts Welsh hero 559 3 Aug 18 2012, 7:52am
                   Collapse I don't disagree Seaber 274 2 Aug 18 2012, 8:40pm
                       PJ has said Captain Salt 270 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:06pm
                       placeholder marillaraina 222 0 Aug 19 2012, 2:02am
           It can't be totally arbitrary DanielLB 594 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:02am
       Collapse It's good to see that Balin is alive! Erufaildon 792 1 Aug 18 2012, 1:40am
           No Doubt! TomthePilgrim 698 0 Aug 18 2012, 2:23am
       Collapse Awesome! FiliSonOfDis 720 1 Aug 18 2012, 2:08am
           The Games Workshop one I think Seaber 698 0 Aug 18 2012, 2:21am
       This picture was posted some weeks back. Carne 687 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:26am
       Collapse anyone else notice? Chopsta123 583 2 Aug 18 2012, 8:22am
           Collapse your right FiliSonOfDis 510 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:03am
               It's probably just Bifur that's been flipped DanielLB 492 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:02am
       Collapse Poor Richard Armitage! sueb1863 618 4 Aug 18 2012, 10:20am
           Collapse This was my thought too DesiringDragons 478 1 Aug 18 2012, 11:44am
               Meh, too photoshopy. // Estel78 451 0 Aug 18 2012, 11:57am
           Collapse Based on his design R11 365 1 Aug 18 2012, 5:39pm
             Oh you...*sigh* sycorax82 290 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:32pm
       I like seeing everyone to scale :) // grammaboodawg 147 0 Aug 19 2012, 3:02pm
       Collapse Old as Gandalf TheRealBeren 71 9 Aug 20 2012, 6:45pm
           Collapse OK marillaraina 47 6 Aug 20 2012, 11:23pm
               Collapse Here is a better picture DanielLB 53 4 Aug 21 2012, 7:32am
                   Collapse Ta! marillaraina 37 3 Aug 21 2012, 7:50am
                       Collapse DarkJackal only got that picture today DanielLB 40 2 Aug 21 2012, 8:14am
                           Collapse I've seen it marillaraina 38 1 Aug 21 2012, 8:37am
                               Not a problem :-) DanielLB 35 0 Aug 21 2012, 8:42am
               ? TheRealBeren 127 0 Aug 21 2012, 9:35am
           Collapse Gandalf is Shelob'sAppetite 49 1 Aug 21 2012, 4:51am
               really? TheRealBeren 36 0 Aug 21 2012, 9:32am

  Collapse Thráin Seaber 1062 3 Aug 17 2012, 8:21pm Jump to last post in thread (by MouthofSauron)
       The website isn't working my end DanielLB 288 0 Aug 17 2012, 8:26pm
       Here's a linky link. Pipe Dream 420 0 Aug 17 2012, 8:35pm
       pretty sure that one is Thráin MouthofSauron 197 0 Aug 19 2012, 1:30am

  Collapse how will PJ pay homage to Rankin/Bass? nobofthepony 1724 154 Aug 17 2012, 6:32pm Jump to last post in thread (by dreamflower)
       Collapse Eh? ProodFEET is from the book? / DanielLB 889 11 Aug 17 2012, 6:37pm
           Collapse But the composition of the shot is very similar to the scene in Bakshi's LOTR // Arwen's daughter 861 1 Aug 17 2012, 6:54pm
               I think it's time to re-watch it! / DanielLB 831 0 Aug 17 2012, 7:01pm
           Collapse It's the composition of the shot.... Silverlode 868 8 Aug 17 2012, 6:55pm
               Collapse Very similar to say the least pettytyrant101 787 7 Aug 17 2012, 7:50pm
                   Collapse Would you be willing to post it here pettytyrant101? DanielLB 745 2 Aug 17 2012, 8:03pm
                       Collapse Its not short pettytyrant101 750 1 Aug 17 2012, 8:15pm
                           Found it, will have a read of it :-) / DanielLB 720 0 Aug 17 2012, 8:24pm
                   Collapse Personally, i think you're reading too much into it. // Estel78 432 2 Aug 17 2012, 10:11pm
                       Collapse I'd have to agree on this DanielLB 395 1 Aug 17 2012, 10:26pm
                           A few bored hours if I remember rightly pettytyrant101 394 0 Aug 17 2012, 10:30pm
                   Black Riders in the Prancing Pony Phibbus 255 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:16pm
       Collapse Visual references dave_lf 863 1 Aug 17 2012, 6:49pm
           Ha! TomthePilgrim 673 0 Aug 17 2012, 8:50pm
       Collapse Was it ever said that he consciously shoot the scenes to resemble Bakshi's? // Estel78 806 8 Aug 17 2012, 7:05pm
           Collapse Yes, in the director's commentary stoutfiles 827 7 Aug 17 2012, 7:19pm
               Collapse [Comic Book Guy]Worst.Case.of.Sour.Grapes.Ever.[/Comic Book Guy] Tweezers of Thu 265 3 Aug 18 2012, 1:25pm
                   Collapse The flying moose's commentary AinurOlorin 254 2 Aug 18 2012, 3:36pm
                       Much like your disagreement with dormouse... Tweezers of Thu 207 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:12pm
                       Taking the flyingmoose review seriously... Silverlode 228 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:18pm
               Collapse Is this to be read straight? SirDennisC 162 2 Aug 19 2012, 1:17pm
                   Collapse Yes, pJ said the same thing in a magazine article geordie 109 1 Aug 19 2012, 7:30pm
                       I did wonder the same thing actually Lacrimae Rerum 94 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:38pm
       Collapse Well, not meaning to offend anyone but I hope he doesn't... dormouse 835 111 Aug 17 2012, 7:18pm
           Collapse I agree with you Radagast-Aiwendil 691 110 Aug 17 2012, 8:48pm
               Collapse Sorry to disaggree . . . with you and Dormouse . . . TomthePilgrim 683 46 Aug 17 2012, 9:04pm
                   Collapse I agree, it has some good parts kzer_za 636 5 Aug 17 2012, 9:17pm
                       Collapse I have to say this . . . TomthePilgrim 647 4 Aug 17 2012, 9:23pm
                           Collapse I didn't like Ian McKellar at all. He was awful ;-P / DanielLB 629 3 Aug 17 2012, 9:33pm
                               Collapse I knew SA thought Shore's core was 'bombastic' . . . TomthePilgrim 611 2 Aug 17 2012, 9:38pm
                                   Collapse I'm having you on TomthePilgrim ;-) DanielLB 605 1 Aug 17 2012, 9:39pm
                                       You LIAR!!!!!!!!!! TomthePilgrim 463 0 Aug 17 2012, 9:43pm
                   Collapse I also strongly disagree with Dormouse on this AinurOlorin 248 38 Aug 18 2012, 6:45am
                       Collapse It had a degree of content faithfulness but lacked effect faithfulness - it wasn't very good! Lacrimae Rerum 307 37 Aug 18 2012, 10:54am
                           Collapse Sunk without a trace? You must be joking. AinurOlorin 268 36 Aug 18 2012, 3:16pm
                               Collapse Agreed Shelob'sAppetite 248 1 Aug 18 2012, 3:28pm
                                   I don't agree kzer_za 215 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:56pm
                               Collapse Not really no. Lacrimae Rerum 223 33 Aug 18 2012, 3:53pm
                                   Collapse Maybe it is out of print. . . do they still print films? lol AinurOlorin 208 31 Aug 18 2012, 4:05pm
                                       Collapse I got to that part and couldn't figure out the right term! Lacrimae Rerum 192 30 Aug 18 2012, 4:17pm
                                           Collapse There are lots of copies available . . . TomthePilgrim 168 3 Aug 18 2012, 5:16pm
                                               Collapse Haha - that was sort of my point! NT Lacrimae Rerum 169 2 Aug 18 2012, 5:20pm
                                                   Collapse Ah, but your point . . . TomthePilgrim 164 1 Aug 18 2012, 5:28pm
                                                       Indeed Lacrimae Rerum 158 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:35pm
                                           Collapse Understood on the terminology. . . burned, mayhaps? But as to what I am suggesting AinurOlorin 220 25 Aug 18 2012, 6:21pm
                                               Collapse AO I just am not sure where you are getting Lacrimae Rerum 237 24 Aug 18 2012, 6:26pm
                                                   Collapse Yes. TomthePilgrim 221 23 Aug 18 2012, 6:39pm
                                                       Collapse Yep . I've got those bits of info. Lacrimae Rerum 210 20 Aug 18 2012, 7:03pm
                                                           Collapse I'd rather not plow on . . . TomthePilgrim 200 18 Aug 18 2012, 7:16pm
                                                               Collapse Well I do think Lacrimae Rerum 185 17 Aug 18 2012, 7:37pm
                                                                   Collapse Perhaps WB, which owns the Rankin Bass production AinurOlorin 169 16 Aug 18 2012, 7:59pm
                                                                       Collapse Ah so it isn't a guarantee of success? Lacrimae Rerum 153 15 Aug 18 2012, 8:20pm
                                                                           Collapse Lacrimae, you are being AinurOlorin 139 14 Aug 18 2012, 9:03pm
                                                                               Collapse So being shown on TV Lacrimae Rerum 266 13 Aug 18 2012, 9:17pm
  Collapse Oh for The Sake of Eru, Lacrimae, we are telling you that the movie has AinurOlorin 182 12 Aug 19 2012, 3:05am
       Collapse You may be frustrated. Lacrimae Rerum 159 10 Aug 19 2012, 10:55am
           Collapse Lacrimae, dear, I know that sites like Rotten Tomatoes may seem AinurOlorin 113 9 Aug 19 2012, 5:30pm
               You're thinking of IMDb Flagg 105 0 Aug 19 2012, 5:57pm
               Collapse I'm not sure that makes sense Lacrimae Rerum 96 7 Aug 19 2012, 6:29pm
                   Collapse You may laugh, Lacrimae, but I don't think there is an American kid born between AinurOlorin 102 6 Aug 19 2012, 6:52pm
                       Collapse All my examples there were made for TV Lacrimae Rerum 88 5 Aug 19 2012, 7:04pm
                           Collapse It was a made for Television movie, and by the standards of such movies it was very AinurOlorin 81 4 Aug 19 2012, 7:12pm
                               Collapse I understand why these sorts of debates arise Shelob'sAppetite 86 1 Aug 19 2012, 7:21pm
                                   Point taken. Fair enough. NT Lacrimae Rerum 75 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:25pm
                               Collapse OK that's enough of this subthread. Ataahua 81 1 Aug 19 2012, 7:25pm
                                   Agreed. AinurOlorin 106 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:28pm
       Gone with the Wind dreamflower 94 0 Aug 20 2012, 8:57pm
                                                           Made for television film is the distinction. AinurOlorin 193 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:28pm
                                                       Collapse To quote John Huston's Gandalf in the animated . . . AinurOlorin 203 1 Aug 18 2012, 7:13pm
                                                           Thank you! TomthePilgrim 191 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:22pm
                                   I first saw the R/B Hobbit as a kid kzer_za 197 0 Aug 19 2012, 1:03am
                   The Misty Mountains song in R&B Shelob'sAppetite 233 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:48pm
               Collapse The Rankin and Bass Hobbit Shelob'sAppetite 478 62 Aug 17 2012, 9:52pm
                   While I agree that PJ's films did not capture that much of the book's essence Radagast-Aiwendil 424 0 Aug 17 2012, 10:13pm
                   Collapse not a good comparison Lusitano 353 6 Aug 17 2012, 11:36pm
                       Collapse Don't try to argue with SA GoodGuyA 416 5 Aug 17 2012, 11:45pm
                           Do not argue with Shelob'sApettite DanielLB 281 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:04am
                           Collapse well Lusitano 256 3 Aug 18 2012, 1:46pm
                               Collapse Animated version made nowadays? dormouse 213 2 Aug 18 2012, 4:03pm
                                   Collapse Come to think of it, a stop-motion animated version could be very cool. // Flagg 109 1 Aug 19 2012, 5:29pm
                                       It is funny that you say that Flagg, as Rankin/Bass is actually most famous for AinurOlorin 108 0 Aug 19 2012, 5:34pm
                   Collapse really? Lindele 320 1 Aug 18 2012, 12:27am
                       Noooo! You're feeding him! GoodGuyA 317 0 Aug 18 2012, 12:36am
                   Collapse Wow, I've never heard anyone criticize Serkis, even on these forums. Istaris'staffs 293 24 Aug 18 2012, 2:26am
                       Collapse It's relative Shelob'sAppetite 259 8 Aug 18 2012, 6:00am
                           Collapse I'm sure Istaris'staffs 249 1 Aug 18 2012, 6:22am
                               Don't see how the voice is artificial Shelob'sAppetite 210 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:08pm
                           Collapse Lets not fogrget peter woodthorpe pettytyrant101 246 4 Aug 18 2012, 6:43am
                               Collapse I agree geordie 352 3 Aug 18 2012, 8:45am
                                   Collapse I like Nicol William's version very much.... dormouse 341 2 Aug 18 2012, 9:36am
                                       Collapse The unabridged version geordie 323 1 Aug 18 2012, 10:04am
                                           Well, in that case, geordie... dormouse 301 0 Aug 18 2012, 11:21am
                           Gollum the frog macfalk 248 0 Aug 18 2012, 1:52pm
                       Collapse 'even on these forums'? geordie 394 14 Aug 18 2012, 8:11am
                           Collapse There are other Tolkien forums? *gasp* TheBeerBaron 360 10 Aug 18 2012, 9:04am
                               Collapse Hard to believe, isn't it? geordie 342 9 Aug 18 2012, 9:57am
                                   Collapse Defies belief TheBeerBaron 330 5 Aug 18 2012, 10:01am
                                       I didn't say fan-boy geordie 336 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:08am
                                       Collapse I've never really got that feeling DanielLB 340 2 Aug 18 2012, 10:09am
                                           Collapse This is oft-repeated, and very frustrating for a book, Tolkien and film fan Shelob'sAppetite 271 1 Aug 18 2012, 3:16pm
                                               I've always appreciated how people that do not like the films, *want* to have a good film adaptation DanielLB 213 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:00pm
                                       i think this depends imin 314 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:40am
                                   Collapse Well, geordie. macfalk 273 2 Aug 18 2012, 12:39pm
                                       Collapse I don't think those were the words Geordie used NT Lacrimae Rerum 221 1 Aug 18 2012, 2:28pm
                                           They weren't - geordie 166 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:36pm
                           Collapse I don't think that's fair kzer_za 236 2 Aug 18 2012, 3:51pm
                               Collapse Thank you, kzer Shelob'sAppetite 208 1 Aug 18 2012, 4:09pm
                                   well Lusitano 182 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:06pm
                   Collapse Insatiable you may be, SA.... dormouse 257 26 Aug 18 2012, 7:59am
                       Collapse That's largely how I felt about Jackson's LotR Phibbus 274 23 Aug 18 2012, 12:33pm
                           Not necessarily just on age of first encounter, I suspect. Lacrimae Rerum 254 0 Aug 18 2012, 12:55pm
                           Collapse Each to his own... dormouse 245 21 Aug 18 2012, 1:27pm
                               Collapse Visuals Phibbus 232 20 Aug 18 2012, 2:25pm
                                   Collapse I hadn't noticed the similarities to Arthur Rackman . . . TomthePilgrim 174 19 Aug 18 2012, 5:10pm
                                       Collapse Dare I mention very very quietly... dormouse 219 18 Aug 18 2012, 6:54pm
                                           it's a crude resemblance, I agree . . . TomthePilgrim 214 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:00pm
                                           Collapse If you look, it is very obvious AinurOlorin 207 12 Aug 18 2012, 7:11pm
                                               Collapse I'm sorry, but not to me... dormouse 181 11 Aug 18 2012, 7:49pm
                                                   Collapse I believe AinurOlorin said that the characters had some similarities . . . TomthePilgrim 155 2 Aug 18 2012, 8:11pm
                                                       Collapse I don't think the textural difference has been accounted for. AinurOlorin 158 1 Aug 18 2012, 8:13pm
                                                           I thought I said that . . . TomthePilgrim 152 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:20pm
                                                   Collapse I LOVE Rackham Shelob'sAppetite 139 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:05pm
                                                       Oh, good . . . TomthePilgrim 123 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:13pm
                                                   Collapse And Shelob'sAppetite 267 5 Aug 18 2012, 9:16pm
                                                       Collapse Shelob... dormouse 228 4 Aug 18 2012, 10:00pm
                                                           Collapse Sorry to stress you out . . . TomthePilgrim 214 1 Aug 18 2012, 10:22pm
                                                               Having just looked at them imin 208 0 Aug 18 2012, 11:17pm
                                                           Collapse And what you seem intent not to understand is that for some AinurOlorin 185 1 Aug 19 2012, 4:14am
                                                               *Raises the teapot lid and yawns* dormouse 179 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:30am
                                           Collapse Not even a weeeeeee bit? Phibbus 175 3 Aug 18 2012, 7:57pm
                                               And that is not the final version of Bilbo. This version is much uglier. Also, AinurOlorin 166 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:01pm
                                               Collapse Sorry, no.... dormouse 247 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:37pm
                                                   Only had a chance to do a cursory look-through . . . TomthePilgrim 236 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:56pm
                       I'm really sorry you didn't like it . . . TomthePilgrim 232 0 Aug 18 2012, 1:53pm
                       Well, to each his or her own Doormouse, but I stand by my assertions, and I AinurOlorin 220 0 Aug 18 2012, 2:43pm
       Collapse Goblin Town FiliSonOfDis 746 3 Aug 17 2012, 8:18pm
           Collapse That's good TheBeerBaron 405 2 Aug 17 2012, 10:14pm
               Collapse That was one of the few bits I enjoyed Radagast-Aiwendil 396 1 Aug 17 2012, 10:20pm
                   It was a genuinely good song TheBeerBaron 369 0 Aug 17 2012, 10:24pm
       Unfortunately, there's no particularly memorable visuals from that movie GoodGuyA 700 0 Aug 17 2012, 8:32pm
       Collapse Sorry . . . got distracted defending the Rankin/Bass version. TomthePilgrim 662 1 Aug 17 2012, 9:07pm
           In the Vlogs, you can see Bilbo sticking his head above the leaves GoodGuyA 644 0 Aug 17 2012, 9:12pm
       Collapse I don't know... Mooseboy018 442 1 Aug 17 2012, 9:54pm
           Is that confirmed? Shelob'sAppetite 443 0 Aug 17 2012, 9:55pm
       Balin's Visit TheSexyBeard 404 0 Aug 17 2012, 10:23pm
       Hopefully, in no way at all Lindele 326 0 Aug 18 2012, 12:25am
       Hopefully the same way South Park did stoutfiles 313 0 Aug 18 2012, 1:48am
       Pay Homage? Pipe Dream 282 0 Aug 18 2012, 12:25pm
       Collapse Umm... carrioncrow 167 1 Aug 18 2012, 5:45pm
           Good point . . . TomthePilgrim 145 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:04pm
       Collapse Possible 'homage' to the Rankin/Bass Hobbit (spoiler) - Hanzkaz 153 2 Aug 18 2012, 6:20pm
           I hope not / DanielLB 219 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:23pm
           oh, I hope not . . . TomthePilgrim 248 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:25pm
       Bless my buttons! dreamflower 58 0 Aug 20 2012, 8:13pm

  Collapse RESHOOTS???? meghamala 1736 12 Aug 17 2012, 4:08pm Jump to last post in thread (by Phibbus)
       Collapse I hope admins don't change your thread title... QuackingTroll 727 4 Aug 17 2012, 4:10pm
           Collapse sorry !!! meghamala 670 2 Aug 17 2012, 4:18pm
               Collapse Nono, it's fine... just excessive caps and question-marks QuackingTroll 629 1 Aug 17 2012, 4:26pm
                   Appropriate Noel Q. von Schneiffel 143 0 Aug 18 2012, 2:26pm
           Reminds me of this joke me had with my former theater instructor. GoodGuyA 599 0 Aug 17 2012, 4:36pm
       Collapse 3 months next year Carne 648 2 Aug 17 2012, 4:26pm
           Collapse You said this before the 3rd film announcement DanielLB 600 1 Aug 17 2012, 4:29pm
               I only know about BoFA Carne 556 0 Aug 17 2012, 5:00pm
       Collapse Reshoots/pickups for film 1 are done... sycorax82 512 2 Aug 17 2012, 6:36pm
           Collapse Pick ups are a good thing. buckledcranium 413 1 Aug 17 2012, 8:20pm
               (ADR = additional dialogue recording) // RaoulJ 216 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:14am
       RESHOOTS???? Phibbus 282 0 Aug 18 2012, 2:58pm

  Collapse bolg sugestion Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1134 26 Aug 17 2012, 8:37am Jump to last post in thread (by Lacrimae Rerum)
       Collapse no no no no and no Wandering Ranger 492 1 Aug 17 2012, 9:14am
           Hmmm not sure about that Lacrimae Rerum 421 0 Aug 17 2012, 10:01am
       Collapse It depends on how you look at it DanielLB 447 6 Aug 17 2012, 9:16am
           Collapse Well also not sure about that Lacrimae Rerum 394 5 Aug 17 2012, 10:12am
               Collapse True ... I doubt he suspected that the Quest would end with DanielLB 377 2 Aug 17 2012, 10:23am
                   Collapse Well Sauron's tactics are hinted at Lacrimae Rerum 377 1 Aug 17 2012, 10:40am
                       Oh darnnit, I'm getting myself confused now DanielLB 349 0 Aug 17 2012, 10:46am
               Collapse my point Wandering Ranger 365 1 Aug 17 2012, 10:31am
                   Oh yes - on that agreed. NT Lacrimae Rerum 341 0 Aug 17 2012, 10:41am
       Don't know why I didn't just post once but anyway... Lacrimae Rerum 366 0 Aug 17 2012, 10:27am
       Collapse Azog might not be a zombie lurtz2010 364 3 Aug 17 2012, 11:31am
           I'm sure we will see Azog DanielLB 375 0 Aug 17 2012, 11:41am
           Collapse but wouldn't Azog have to be one ancient goblin if he survived? MouthofSauron 76 1 Aug 18 2012, 7:17pm
               Like Bolg did? NT Lacrimae Rerum 143 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:39pm
       Collapse Headless Zombie Azog Warg Rider, perhaps? Shelob'sAppetite 301 10 Aug 17 2012, 2:54pm
           Collapse Aw geez dave_lf 276 9 Aug 17 2012, 3:03pm
               Collapse Seriously? Shelob'sAppetite 271 6 Aug 17 2012, 3:05pm
                   Collapse Headless orc? dave_lf 289 5 Aug 17 2012, 3:07pm
                       Collapse That's not Tauriel / DanielLB 264 4 Aug 17 2012, 3:18pm
                           Collapse How do you know? Shelob'sAppetite 269 3 Aug 17 2012, 3:24pm
                               Collapse You didn't think it was E.Lilly? DanielLB 266 2 Aug 17 2012, 3:34pm
                                   Collapse I still don't think it was E. Lilly Shelob'sAppetite 177 1 Aug 17 2012, 9:54pm
                                       We shall see soon hopefully! / DanielLB 44 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:31pm
               Collapse Green headed orc Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 199 1 Aug 17 2012, 7:05pm
                   Good point dave_lf 191 0 Aug 17 2012, 7:11pm
       That is certainly Shelob'sAppetite 280 0 Aug 17 2012, 3:10pm

  Collapse Galadriel and Gandalf as Rebels? HiddenSpring 1901 30 Aug 17 2012, 4:44am Jump to last post in thread (by grammaboodawg)
       Honestly Shelob'sAppetite 792 0 Aug 17 2012, 6:16am
       Collapse i think PJ is going for a bush jr./Powell versus U.N. MouthofSauron 695 3 Aug 17 2012, 6:37am
           Collapse Not the best analogy Shelob'sAppetite 658 2 Aug 17 2012, 6:45am
               Collapse I second that Kangi Ska 511 1 Aug 17 2012, 12:07pm
                   This conversation is giving me flashbacks to Viggo's interview with Charlie Rose! Kassandros 472 0 Aug 17 2012, 2:17pm
       Collapse I hope so too DanielLB 623 10 Aug 17 2012, 7:04am
           Collapse Radagast's character arc GoodGuyA 509 5 Aug 17 2012, 1:52pm
               Collapse The fabled swing voter! dave_lf 440 2 Aug 17 2012, 1:59pm
                   Collapse Rather it just follow the book stoutfiles 384 1 Aug 17 2012, 3:40pm
                       But the books don't give us specifics HiddenSpring 363 0 Aug 17 2012, 4:20pm
               Collapse This brings up an interesting question HiddenSpring 349 1 Aug 17 2012, 5:01pm
                   Rock, paper, scissors. DanielLB 338 0 Aug 17 2012, 5:43pm
           Collapse I'd say... HiddenSpring 419 2 Aug 17 2012, 2:49pm
               Collapse Regarding Celeborn DanielLB 446 1 Aug 17 2012, 3:20pm
                   I like Csokas Shelob'sAppetite 381 0 Aug 17 2012, 3:25pm
           Oh, one more thing... HiddenSpring 349 0 Aug 17 2012, 4:13pm
       Saruman vs. Gandalf Zubeneschamali 605 0 Aug 17 2012, 8:19am
       Collapse Galadriel might suspect something is amiss - Hanzkaz 575 1 Aug 17 2012, 9:53am
           Yes, Círdan wasn't "fooled" either! HiddenSpring 448 0 Aug 17 2012, 2:38pm
       Completly agree Lacrimae Rerum 543 0 Aug 17 2012, 9:54am
       Only Rebels know Dol Guldur's weakness stoutfiles 527 0 Aug 17 2012, 11:48am
       You may be on to something... Otaku-sempai 424 0 Aug 17 2012, 2:15pm
       Collapse by the end of film three of TH... DemoElite 381 5 Aug 17 2012, 8:31pm
           Collapse Yeah, Gandalf's trust in Saruman needs to remain absolute here sycorax82 236 3 Aug 18 2012, 9:10pm
               Collapse I like this idea HiddenSpring 174 2 Aug 18 2012, 9:41pm
                   i like that MouthofSauron 143 0 Aug 19 2012, 1:35am
                   It did sound slightly sinister... Captain Salt 161 0 Aug 19 2012, 2:05am
           True if consistant Yngwulff 159 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:12pm
       Would certainly be fun if it played out this way! // Captain Salt 146 0 Aug 19 2012, 2:01am
       Excellent! grammaboodawg 203 0 Aug 19 2012, 3:15pm

  Collapse Music and letimotifs GoodGuyA 871 24 Aug 17 2012, 1:58am Jump to last post in thread (by Shelob'sAppetite)
       Collapse can you provide time stamps for the music in Wolves of Isengard you're talking about? // Magpie 341 3 Aug 17 2012, 2:11am
           Collapse Surely! GoodGuyA 355 2 Aug 17 2012, 2:31am
               You can't hear it MTRougeau 346 0 Aug 17 2012, 2:37am
               I agree with MT Magpie 292 0 Aug 17 2012, 4:38am
       hi Lusitano 325 0 Aug 17 2012, 2:42am
       Collapse I hope Shelob'sAppetite 324 16 Aug 17 2012, 4:30am
           Collapse Definitely hope this doesn't happen. thomasofrohan 311 2 Aug 17 2012, 4:34am
               Collapse Actually, now that I've given it some thought thomasofrohan 309 1 Aug 17 2012, 4:47am
                   well.. Magpie 301 0 Aug 17 2012, 4:57am
           The chances of that happening MTRougeau 287 0 Aug 17 2012, 6:06am
           Collapse Completely? DanielLB 262 11 Aug 17 2012, 7:05am
               Collapse Little hints are fine Shelob'sAppetite 188 10 Aug 17 2012, 2:52pm
                   Collapse I never knew of your dislike to the score SA! DanielLB 170 8 Aug 17 2012, 3:21pm
                       Collapse I don't dislike all of it, or it on its own merits Shelob'sAppetite 176 7 Aug 17 2012, 3:30pm
                           Fair enough :-) DanielLB 160 0 Aug 17 2012, 3:32pm
                           Collapse I imagine you're very keen on Kubrick films, then. GoodGuyA 172 5 Aug 17 2012, 3:41pm
                               Collapse I do like most of Kubrick's films Shelob'sAppetite 112 1 Aug 17 2012, 9:59pm
                                   What do you think of C. Nolan as a director? // imin 91 0 Aug 17 2012, 10:20pm
                               Collapse The onlt way to convey scale? Shelob'sAppetite 102 2 Aug 17 2012, 10:02pm
                                   Collapse I think this is an interesting topic to delve into GoodGuyA 94 1 Aug 17 2012, 11:09pm
                                       My ideal LOTR and Hobbit director would be a blend Shelob'sAppetite 130 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:06am
                   Which Shire theme? MTRougeau 171 0 Aug 17 2012, 3:52pm
       Elves hey-day Zubeneschamali 263 0 Aug 17 2012, 8:38am
       Good topic . . . TomthePilgrim 191 0 Aug 17 2012, 2:36pm

  Collapse Is Beorn Mikael Persbrandt's first English-language role? thomasofrohan 1093 18 Aug 17 2012, 12:28am Jump to last post in thread (by Sinister71)
       Collapse His English is not very good Carne 557 1 Aug 17 2012, 12:33am
           True thomasofrohan 497 0 Aug 17 2012, 12:38am
       Collapse Youtube clip SaltedPork 531 11 Aug 17 2012, 12:46am
           Collapse Thanks! thomasofrohan 435 9 Aug 17 2012, 12:52am
               Collapse Most Swedes speak decent English... DeadRabbits 313 8 Aug 17 2012, 11:55am
                   Collapse Beorn Shelob'sAppetite 257 7 Aug 17 2012, 2:58pm
                       Collapse What evidence Lacrimae Rerum 213 1 Aug 17 2012, 4:01pm
                           Annotated Hobbit, The Ring of Words and A Reader's Companion Seaber 199 0 Aug 17 2012, 4:45pm
                       Collapse Agree about the Swedish accent Seaber 219 4 Aug 17 2012, 4:51pm
                           Collapse Boromir is not mancunian imin 184 3 Aug 17 2012, 6:57pm
                               Collapse Oops! Seaber 145 2 Aug 17 2012, 7:46pm
                                   Collapse No worries imin 140 1 Aug 17 2012, 7:53pm
                                       I am Seaber 156 0 Aug 17 2012, 8:04pm
           Loved that interview . . . TomthePilgrim 230 0 Aug 17 2012, 2:09pm
       It's alright, Bear sounds the same in Swedish as it does in English / DanielLB 324 0 Aug 17 2012, 7:05am
       I like the idea of him sounding somewhat Nordic Seaber 310 0 Aug 17 2012, 9:31am
       Beorn's accent sam90 199 0 Aug 17 2012, 10:25pm
       Anyone else notice Sinister71 100 0 Aug 20 2012, 3:24am

  Collapse Azog Conundrum Yngwulff 1715 50 Aug 16 2012, 10:41pm Jump to last post in thread (by DarkJackal)
       Collapse There's only 1 thing to be certain of - Azog is in the films DanielLB 1025 47 Aug 16 2012, 10:46pm
           Collapse WB ... Yngwulff 1000 40 Aug 16 2012, 10:59pm
               Collapse Yes, it seems to be a lot more complicated than what Tolkien originally intended DanielLB 966 39 Aug 16 2012, 11:02pm
                   Only way for me if true Yngwulff 891 0 Aug 16 2012, 11:18pm
                   Collapse I don't see what's wrong with keeping it simple Lacrimae Rerum 854 27 Aug 16 2012, 11:35pm
                       Collapse Exactly Shelob'sAppetite 814 17 Aug 16 2012, 11:40pm
                           Collapse Also an encounter with undead Thrain as well...? Captain Salt 790 16 Aug 16 2012, 11:47pm
                               Collapse Zombie Thrain DarkJackal 762 15 Aug 16 2012, 11:57pm
                                   Collapse Or perhaps "possessed" by the Necromancer ALA Saruman & Theoden? Captain Salt 755 14 Aug 17 2012, 12:00am
                                       Collapse The second Hobbit movie is lookin' to be Kangi Ska 754 10 Aug 17 2012, 1:23am
                                           Collapse How about... Shelob'sAppetite 693 9 Aug 17 2012, 1:25am
                                               Collapse Or... dave_lf 645 8 Aug 17 2012, 1:32am
                                                   Collapse Based on what we know of the working titles Shelob'sAppetite 680 7 Aug 17 2012, 1:34am
                                                       Collapse Or simply...The Zombbit? ;) // Captain Salt 667 6 Aug 17 2012, 1:55am
                                                           Collapse Beorn of the Dead Spaldron 642 5 Aug 17 2012, 2:20am
                                                               Collapse Hmmm...let me think... Morthoron 604 3 Aug 17 2012, 2:28am
                                                                   Collapse What does zombie Azog eat? Ataahua 632 2 Aug 17 2012, 4:15am
                                                                       So the opening line to film 1 is going to be DanielLB 559 0 Aug 17 2012, 7:13am
                                                                       This, btw... DarkJackal 377 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:03pm
                                                               I suggest Phibbus 599 0 Aug 17 2012, 4:28am
                                       Collapse oh and don't forget about NecroSmaug guys!!! MouthofSauron 401 2 Aug 18 2012, 7:09pm
                                           Collapse I'll tell you what's better Shelob'sAppetite 365 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:10pm
                                               or how about Nutella sandwiches with some.... MouthofSauron 396 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:35pm
                       LOL DarkJackal 764 0 Aug 16 2012, 11:47pm
                       Collapse But that's overstating the complexity by a long shot Shelob'sAppetite 750 4 Aug 16 2012, 11:55pm
                           Collapse I was talking about the books. Apologies if that didn't come across. NT Lacrimae Rerum 751 2 Aug 16 2012, 11:57pm
                               Collapse Got it Shelob'sAppetite 725 1 Aug 17 2012, 12:17am
                                   Nain and Thror Yngwulff 687 0 Aug 17 2012, 12:40am
                           Indeed. Macfeast 717 0 Aug 17 2012, 12:09am
                       Collapse Yes, it does seem needlessly complicated, doesn't it? Captain Salt 790 1 Aug 16 2012, 11:55pm
                           Well I don't think it's bad or good per se. Lacrimae Rerum 714 0 Aug 17 2012, 12:04am
                       Hey! It's PJ! DanielLB 591 0 Aug 17 2012, 7:07am
                   Collapse You speak truth DarkJackal 782 9 Aug 16 2012, 11:44pm
                       Collapse one explanation Black Breathalizer 515 8 Aug 17 2012, 7:06pm
                           That could be why imin 497 0 Aug 17 2012, 7:13pm
                           Collapse Would they really be influenced that easily by fan opinions? / DanielLB 496 5 Aug 17 2012, 7:18pm
                               Collapse Sometimes i wish they would be :P // imin 509 4 Aug 17 2012, 7:23pm
                                   Collapse Never! Kangi Ska 446 3 Aug 17 2012, 9:21pm
                                       Collapse I was joking :P imin 469 2 Aug 17 2012, 9:28pm
                                           Collapse Sorry...just a grumpy old Dwarf. Kangi Ska 445 1 Aug 17 2012, 9:33pm
                                               No worries imin 438 0 Aug 17 2012, 9:59pm
                           I'm just holding out hope that.... BlackCountry 494 0 Aug 17 2012, 8:24pm
           Collapse Hmm imin 835 2 Aug 16 2012, 11:00pm
               Collapse This reminds me of a book I read Ziggy Stardust 727 1 Aug 17 2012, 12:50am
                   PJ hopefully didn't Yngwulff 702 0 Aug 17 2012, 1:07am
           Well Crunchable Birdses 751 0 Aug 16 2012, 11:37pm
           Collapse Certainty is fleeting at best - Bridge Direct Azog figure DarkJackal 712 1 Aug 17 2012, 3:15am
               I wonder if they're confused themselves DanielLB 628 0 Aug 17 2012, 7:24am
       Both Azog and Bolg have recently been described as being Captain Salt 837 0 Aug 16 2012, 11:48pm
       I'm not a fan of linking the goblins with the Necromancer Bladerunner 779 0 Aug 16 2012, 11:50pm
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