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  Moved: 1985 Russian version of The Hobbit ghost_matt - - Dec 29 2012, 4:07am Jump to last post in thread (by ghost_matt)

  Collapse My guess: Thrain found in Moria? Joe-Mathews 663 9 Dec 29 2012, 3:41am Jump to last post in thread (by nhui06)
       Makes as much sense as anything else Ardamírë 302 0 Dec 29 2012, 3:46am
       Sure, if they edit the CGI background stoutfiles 312 0 Dec 29 2012, 4:46am
       Collapse that cannot be MouthofSauron 279 3 Dec 29 2012, 5:43am
           Collapse Yep. Joe-Mathews 153 2 Dec 29 2012, 5:10pm
               so.... MouthofSauron 124 0 Dec 29 2012, 6:39pm
               Maybe.. nhui06 59 0 Dec 31 2012, 6:38pm
       If anything would have driven Thrain mad in Moria. .. AinurOlorin 221 0 Dec 29 2012, 10:10am
       Interesting idea Rostron2 116 0 Dec 29 2012, 7:14pm
       Well then. vexx801 80 0 Dec 29 2012, 10:41pm

  Collapse CNN: The Hobbit worst movie of 2012 demnation 2451 111 Dec 29 2012, 12:17am Jump to last post in thread (by redgiraffe)
       That headline made me LOL // Escapist 970 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:19am
       Collapse Why shouldn't a critic's opinion of a movie be affected by its appearance? N.E. Brigand 976 43 Dec 29 2012, 12:29am
           Collapse you would think BeornBerserker 940 36 Dec 29 2012, 12:33am
               Collapse Critics are under no obligation to see a film twice. N.E. Brigand 862 35 Dec 29 2012, 1:03am
                   Collapse Fair enough, but we shouldn't have to hear about it next year. Aragorn the Elfstone 845 1 Dec 29 2012, 1:11am
                       They won't be doing any critic screenings at 48fps next year. Crunchable Birdses 859 0 Dec 29 2012, 1:13am
                   Collapse Not if you opted to pile onto the soup with the optional sauce labled "extremely hot" AinurOlorin 859 31 Dec 29 2012, 1:13am
                       Collapse "...as standard blockbusters go..." Elizabeth 814 30 Dec 29 2012, 2:15am
                           Couldn't have said it better myself, Elizabeth. // Ardamírë 696 0 Dec 29 2012, 2:32am
                           Collapse Yeah, but The Hobbit is significantly lighter fare... Aragorn the Elfstone 711 2 Dec 29 2012, 2:37am
                               Some of the marketing did highlight connections between LoTR and TH Escapist 428 0 Dec 29 2012, 2:55am
                               Yet they tried to amp up the drama in Hobbit. Estel78 338 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:52am
                           The blame for failed expectations Escapist 437 0 Dec 29 2012, 2:50am
                           Collapse It is indeed, but it is a problem critics supposedly have some obligation to take into consideration, and to avoid falling into. AinurOlorin 380 18 Dec 29 2012, 4:15am
                               Collapse All the quieter charm of The Hobbit Elizabeth 393 17 Dec 29 2012, 5:02am
                                   Collapse Many critics explicitly stated that they felt the film was too drawn out in the Bag End sequence... Aragorn the Elfstone 392 9 Dec 29 2012, 5:04am
                                       Collapse In the prologue, maybe. Elizabeth 366 8 Dec 29 2012, 5:42am
                                           I agree about the dwarves, but the critics certainly didn't. Aragorn the Elfstone 371 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:57am
                                           Collapse I think that tells you the big problem PJ had... moreorless 367 6 Dec 29 2012, 2:20pm
                                               Collapse Personally, i think the film got most tedious sauget.diblosio 313 5 Dec 29 2012, 4:24pm
                                                   Collapse Agreed about some of the action but not Azog moreorless 270 4 Dec 29 2012, 5:34pm
                                                       Collapse Yeah, when it comes to Azog, sauget.diblosio 231 2 Dec 29 2012, 6:02pm
                                                           Collapse Seriously?? Gothmog was HORRIBLE. morgul lord 231 1 Dec 29 2012, 8:39pm
                                                               I have no feeling on Gothmog one way or the other really, sauget.diblosio 196 0 Dec 29 2012, 10:05pm
                                                       Azog Ave Moria 222 0 Dec 29 2012, 6:10pm
                                   Collapse Nope Ave Moria 393 4 Dec 29 2012, 6:04am
                                       "That was Thorin's style. He was an important dwarf." N.E. Brigand 345 0 Dec 29 2012, 7:24am
                                       Collapse Sorry, I clearly hit a nerve! Elizabeth 329 1 Dec 29 2012, 8:39am
                                           Well. . . they had a Wizard with them. Maybe one of the more subtle aspects of the magic AinurOlorin 276 0 Dec 29 2012, 9:52am
                                       Except you can't really say "nope" to this. Captain Salt 239 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:55pm
                                   Oh, I agree those were some of the best moments. But, with a notable few exceptions AinurOlorin 298 0 Dec 29 2012, 9:34am
                                   I find this to be the funny thing about the critics redgiraffe 44 0 Jan 3 2013, 11:12am
                           Yeah, couldn't disagree more. Tim 370 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:36am
                           Collapse the problem is... Ave Moria 354 1 Dec 29 2012, 5:48am
                               I'm with ya Elessar 338 0 Dec 29 2012, 2:20pm
                           Collapse Couldn't agree more imin 387 1 Dec 29 2012, 11:59am
                               To be fair Elessar 339 0 Dec 29 2012, 2:08pm
                           I agree and disagree elostirion74 83 0 Dec 30 2012, 2:43pm
                   I suppose BeornBerserker 763 0 Dec 29 2012, 1:41am
           Collapse But it is garbage to lambast a film based on a format that one did not have to see it in AinurOlorin 882 2 Dec 29 2012, 12:39am
               Collapse So critics should not have seen the film in the new format touted by its director? // N.E. Brigand 838 1 Dec 29 2012, 12:51am
                   I value a critic who can make a distinction between form and content. Bladerunner 337 0 Dec 29 2012, 6:30am
           Collapse this is a fair point redgiraffe 754 2 Dec 29 2012, 1:44am
               Collapse It's not a fair point. sauget.diblosio 734 1 Dec 29 2012, 1:58am
                   but redgiraffe 370 0 Dec 29 2012, 4:02am
       Collapse WTF??? AinurOlorin 922 16 Dec 29 2012, 12:32am
           Collapse It is customary for critics to focus their "worst lists" on ambitious or notable films. N.E. Brigand 841 15 Dec 29 2012, 1:08am
               Collapse And what of the likes of Breaking Dawn, and even Resident Evil? AinurOlorin 857 14 Dec 29 2012, 1:15am
                   Collapse Love your posts Ave Moria 727 2 Dec 29 2012, 2:13am
                       Collapse Daaawwwww. *Blushing* AinurOlorin 417 1 Dec 29 2012, 2:47am
                           ;) Ave Moria 328 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:44am
                   Collapse If you read the review... burrahobbit 409 10 Dec 29 2012, 12:15pm
                       Collapse I think it really invalidates his opinion a lot Silranhir 395 6 Dec 29 2012, 12:37pm
                           Yeah he is probably the only one i actively go out of my way to listen to imin 362 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:48pm
                           Collapse Hmm... burrahobbit 363 4 Dec 29 2012, 1:02pm
                               Three movies Arannir 374 0 Dec 29 2012, 1:43pm
                               Collapse One film Silranhir 350 2 Dec 29 2012, 1:54pm
                                   Collapse A two film adaptation would be the best balance burrahobbit 195 1 Dec 29 2012, 6:47pm
                                       Someone who puts Tarantinos latest copy & paste crap on his number 1 list Ęleniel Tindome 276 0 Dec 29 2012, 6:55pm
                       Collapse Yet it was also a better film than Avengers, about which critic raved, giving a pass to AinurOlorin 140 2 Dec 30 2012, 12:59am
                           Collapse I felt Jackson invited the LotR comparison burrahobbit 127 1 Dec 30 2012, 1:29am
                               It'e entirely possible... Chainsaw Charlie 58 0 Dec 30 2012, 7:30pm
       LMAO! The critics REALLY hated HFR, didn't they... Aragorn the Elfstone 930 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:34am
       I find this amusing more than anything else. sharpened_graphite 887 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:45am
       Worse than a Gerard Butler romcom? ryouko 834 0 Dec 29 2012, 1:08am
       Oh, please! Captain Salt 772 0 Dec 29 2012, 1:44am
       The stupidest thing I have heard in 2012 Ave Moria 748 0 Dec 29 2012, 2:10am
       It would interesting silneldor 400 0 Dec 29 2012, 3:26am
       Seeking attention Elessar 327 0 Dec 29 2012, 6:42am
       Attention seeking dubulous 272 0 Dec 29 2012, 9:45am
       Collapse Surely he should be reviewing the film DanielLB 272 7 Dec 29 2012, 10:14am
           Collapse Classical music critics comment on the acoustics of orchestral halls all the time. N.E. Brigand 280 5 Dec 29 2012, 10:33am
               Collapse I don't really think people are saying 48fps shouldn't be mentioned. sauget.diblosio 346 4 Dec 29 2012, 2:47pm
                   Collapse It should absolutely affect the review. It does in music. N.E. Brigand 237 3 Dec 29 2012, 5:55pm
                       Collapse Then proclaim it was the worst concert of the year Altaira 211 1 Dec 29 2012, 6:22pm
                           The forums are moving so fast that hardly anyone will see this post. N.E. Brigand 57 0 Dec 31 2012, 12:23am
                       Maybe i'm not expaining myself well enough... sauget.diblosio 255 0 Dec 29 2012, 7:40pm
           It's based on the following review burrahobbit 258 0 Dec 29 2012, 11:36am
       Collapse Such a sad thing Corsair of Umbar 332 27 Dec 29 2012, 4:27pm
           Collapse ugh Ave Moria 317 12 Dec 29 2012, 4:53pm
               Collapse Ave Moria Corsair of Umbar 276 10 Dec 29 2012, 5:52pm
                   Collapse I don't think theres any need for that... moreorless 275 8 Dec 29 2012, 7:20pm
                       Collapse Nor is TH free from criticism either, or it shouldn't be. People are allowed to dislike it all they like, so to speak. // Captain Salt 257 2 Dec 29 2012, 7:35pm
                           Collapse I wasnt claiming it should be... moreorless 257 1 Dec 29 2012, 8:09pm
                               Agreed on that last sentiment, but my interjection was due to that Captain Salt 161 0 Dec 29 2012, 11:31pm
                       Collapse And I think that was the problem with some of the critics/reviews. They came with a cynical attitude AinurOlorin 114 4 Dec 30 2012, 1:44am
                           Collapse i went in with the opposite problem imin 105 3 Dec 30 2012, 1:56am
                               Collapse When you do, you may find much more that is good than action. AinurOlorin 105 2 Dec 30 2012, 2:01am
                                   Collapse Those are all the parts i liked the first time round imin 100 1 Dec 30 2012, 2:34am
                                       I cannot complain too much about Goblin town, thanks to the magic and Humphries. AinurOlorin 76 0 Dec 30 2012, 6:26am
                   I agree with you Corsair. // Elenorflower 219 0 Dec 29 2012, 9:06pm
               Agreed moreorless 240 0 Dec 29 2012, 6:01pm
           Collapse Sure I had a similar experience burrahobbit 286 10 Dec 29 2012, 7:05pm
               Collapse I don't think it was greed from Jackson... moreorless 264 9 Dec 29 2012, 7:39pm
                   Collapse Agree about more drama in later chapters... burrahobbit 155 8 Dec 30 2012, 12:40am
                       Collapse A much harder call than FOTR for me... moreorless 73 7 Dec 30 2012, 10:41am
                           Collapse You wouldn't have to drop the Trolls, Beorn and the Eagles burrahobbit 102 4 Dec 30 2012, 1:03pm
                               Collapse My points were more that... moreorless 91 2 Dec 30 2012, 2:01pm
                                   Collapse Suggestions for themes burrahobbit 116 1 Dec 30 2012, 2:28pm
                                       The problem is I'd say... moreorless 90 0 Dec 30 2012, 3:33pm
                               Thorin arithmancer 87 0 Dec 30 2012, 2:07pm
                           Collapse I honestly don't see how they ever planned on making this two films. sauget.diblosio 98 1 Dec 30 2012, 1:20pm
                               Indeed it will moreorless 73 0 Dec 30 2012, 3:49pm
           Collapse Corsair?? Ataahua 173 2 Dec 29 2012, 11:23pm
               Collapse Ataahua Corsair of Umbar 158 1 Dec 29 2012, 11:42pm
                   :D Ataahua 150 0 Dec 30 2012, 12:10am
       At least the commenters are giving the reviewer a run for his money. // Aragalen the Green 293 0 Dec 29 2012, 4:42pm
     ---> Personal comments have been edited out of this thread - it will be locked if they continue! // Altaira 225 0 Dec 29 2012, 6:11pm
       This is typical CNN. Chainsaw Charlie 259 0 Dec 29 2012, 8:17pm
       No critic ever talks about... Rostron2 202 0 Dec 29 2012, 10:27pm
       Critics won't get fooled again? moreorless 72 0 Dec 30 2012, 7:10pm

  Collapse Thranduils Elves... Black hair? Avnar 1214 23 Dec 28 2012, 10:04pm Jump to last post in thread (by DanielLB)
       Collapse It's a mixture of blonde and brown hair. / DanielLB 517 2 Dec 28 2012, 10:09pm
           Collapse Are you sure? Avnar 480 1 Dec 28 2012, 10:23pm
               As sure as you are that they are all brown ;-) DanielLB 466 0 Dec 28 2012, 10:26pm
       Collapse Thranduil / Legolas aren't actually Silvan Elves. Crunchable Birdses 604 3 Dec 28 2012, 10:12pm
           Collapse Elves and Hair Mahtion 556 2 Dec 28 2012, 10:19pm
               That's debatable RalphDamiani 482 0 Dec 28 2012, 10:42pm
               Elves with... appendix hair? Elthir 472 0 Dec 28 2012, 10:47pm
       Posthumously published hair Elthir 450 0 Dec 28 2012, 10:58pm
       Collapse Hair salon swordwhale 191 1 Dec 29 2012, 9:02pm
           East-elves Elthir 161 0 Dec 30 2012, 12:30am
       Collapse I saw the film again today ... DanielLB 216 12 Dec 29 2012, 9:18pm
           Collapse Good grief, Daniel. Ardamírë 186 11 Dec 29 2012, 9:48pm
               Collapse I'm on 5 DanielLB 178 10 Dec 29 2012, 9:52pm
                   Collapse Woah Ardamírë 167 7 Dec 29 2012, 10:00pm
                       Collapse I think grammaboodawg is on number 10. entmaiden 153 3 Dec 29 2012, 10:57pm
                           Collapse Holy goodness Ardamírë 150 2 Dec 29 2012, 11:26pm
                               Collapse Heh. You should Silverlode 144 1 Dec 30 2012, 12:19am
                                   I will ask her! Ardamírë 138 0 Dec 30 2012, 12:26am
                       Collapse I am like that imin 119 2 Dec 30 2012, 1:12am
                           I basically agree with everything you said Ardamírë 122 0 Dec 30 2012, 1:25am
                           The best screening for me was ... DanielLB 117 0 Dec 30 2012, 9:22am
                   Collapse After the second viewing, do you still hate the HFR?// Bladerunner 144 1 Dec 30 2012, 12:51am
                       I went in with an open mind... DanielLB 130 0 Dec 30 2012, 12:55am

  Moved: Vulture jokes fans might mess with Oscars Kimtc - - Dec 28 2012, 10:03pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kimtc)

  Collapse The hobbit has become the 10th biggest film of the year Welsh hero 1416 66 Dec 28 2012, 8:55pm Jump to last post in thread (by shadowdog)
       Sounds good to me! / DanielLB 560 0 Dec 28 2012, 9:09pm
       Collapse Needs to do double that. Crunchable Birdses 614 26 Dec 28 2012, 9:10pm
           Collapse Agreed. 10th biggest film of the year is hardly cause for celebration. // Captain Salt 483 25 Dec 28 2012, 10:09pm
               Collapse Well you need to consider shadowdog 507 1 Dec 28 2012, 10:13pm
                   Let me know when it gets to 4-5. 8) // Captain Salt 449 0 Dec 28 2012, 10:17pm
               Collapse Tenth isn't bad considering marillaraina 426 22 Dec 28 2012, 11:16pm
                   Collapse Nor is it particularly noteworthy. // Captain Salt 308 21 Dec 29 2012, 1:50am
                       Collapse So? marillaraina 308 20 Dec 29 2012, 3:54am
                           Hear, hear, marillaraina! Kimtc 274 0 Dec 29 2012, 4:10am
                           Collapse Oh, well Woopy Woo! Captain Salt 269 18 Dec 29 2012, 5:23am
                               Collapse To be fair, it'll most likely be 4th when it leaves theaters. Estel78 265 17 Dec 29 2012, 5:40am
                                   Collapse I don't understand shadowdog 180 16 Dec 29 2012, 4:10pm
                                       Money is money DanielLB 161 0 Dec 29 2012, 4:25pm
                                       Collapse Let's throw out some hypothetical numbers. Estel78 151 14 Dec 29 2012, 4:49pm
                                           Collapse Perhaps people's estimations were too high DanielLB 145 6 Dec 29 2012, 4:53pm
                                               Collapse Did you not expect it to reach 1 billion?// Ardamírë 138 4 Dec 29 2012, 4:56pm
                                                   Collapse I don't follow the box office DanielLB 134 3 Dec 29 2012, 5:09pm
                                                       Yes, I did. Ardamírë 199 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:24pm
                                                       Collapse No offense but... Estel78 196 1 Dec 29 2012, 5:28pm
                                                           I can offer my opinion though DanielLB 178 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:42pm
                                               Or perhaps not. Estel78 129 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:13pm
                                           Collapse Well... Arannir 140 6 Dec 29 2012, 5:07pm
                                               I agree Escapist 121 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:13pm
                                               Collapse They are not. Estel78 206 4 Dec 29 2012, 5:21pm
                                                   Collapse ... Arannir 194 2 Dec 29 2012, 5:25pm
                                                       Collapse No, we don't know WB's internal expectations and we never will. Estel78 193 1 Dec 29 2012, 5:31pm
                                                           still trucking along BeornBerserker 171 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:52pm
                                                   roll the dice and guess sharku 127 0 Dec 29 2012, 8:20pm
       Collapse Here's a news link... Owain 604 4 Dec 28 2012, 9:19pm
           Collapse wow MouthofSauron 551 3 Dec 28 2012, 9:37pm
               Reviews don't have that much effect on opening weekend. Estel78 502 0 Dec 28 2012, 9:50pm
               Collapse I was thrilled to see it back at #1 Kimtc 291 1 Dec 29 2012, 3:53am
                   The casual audience response has been glowingly, very positive. AinurOlorin 235 0 Dec 29 2012, 8:33am
       Collapse "Moonrise Kingdom" is in first place, right? N.E. Brigand 567 2 Dec 28 2012, 9:20pm
           Collapse wait, the Best Exotic Marigold Hotel came out this year? ? o.O.. ... it was wonderful indeed, but I thought it came out before lol // Xanaseb 188 1 Dec 29 2012, 12:26pm
               Yes. Feb. 24 in UK; May 4 in US. // N.E. Brigand 180 0 Dec 29 2012, 5:38pm
       Collapse Concerning Boxoffice Nine Finger Frodo 563 6 Dec 28 2012, 9:25pm
           Collapse Les Miserables and Django Unchained are medium sized movies. Estel78 517 3 Dec 28 2012, 9:44pm
               Collapse Disagree Nine Finger Frodo 514 2 Dec 28 2012, 9:48pm
                   They are big events for moviebuffs. Estel78 475 0 Dec 28 2012, 9:58pm
                   Its an 18, R rated movie imin 313 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:29am
           Things are just different now Rostron2 311 0 Dec 29 2012, 1:12am
           None of this matters Rostron2 79 0 Dec 29 2012, 10:13pm
       Collapse I guess it will finish in 5th burrahobbit 552 1 Dec 28 2012, 9:27pm
           Sounds about the highest it will go... Captain Salt 461 0 Dec 28 2012, 10:11pm
       Collapse How much does AUJ need to gross for in order for WB to make a profit? Captain Salt 469 1 Dec 28 2012, 10:15pm
           Only about half (roughly) of the box office goes to studios. Estel78 449 0 Dec 28 2012, 10:28pm
       Collapse it's doing well unexpectedvisitor 433 9 Dec 28 2012, 10:44pm
           Collapse i must have missed something with the Avengers marketing, too unexpectedvisitor 423 7 Dec 28 2012, 10:47pm
               Collapse If it hadn't been for Joss Whedon... Aragorn the Elfstone 408 6 Dec 28 2012, 10:55pm
                   Collapse well if you think of The Avengers as the first of its kind unexpectedvisitor 398 1 Dec 28 2012, 11:09pm
                       All very accurate and astute. AinurOlorin 342 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:03am
                   Collapse Critics aren't objective Crunchable Birdses 352 3 Dec 29 2012, 12:09am
                       Collapse Neither is anyone on TORN. N.E. Brigand 339 1 Dec 29 2012, 12:39am
                           Except me, of course Voronwë_the_Faithful 333 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:43am
                       This about sums it up. AinurOlorin 322 0 Dec 29 2012, 1:42am
           Avengers did well because Welsh hero 419 0 Dec 28 2012, 11:04pm
       Collapse Well... Arannir 219 4 Dec 29 2012, 11:43am
           Anything less than $1 billion would be a little disappointing to WB imin 226 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:04pm
           Collapse If TH had made one dollar, there would be those who would celebrate it as a rousing success... Captain Salt 202 2 Dec 29 2012, 5:45pm
               hmm Arannir 52 0 Dec 30 2012, 1:36am
               But it has shadowdog 66 0 Dec 30 2012, 2:44am
       Collapse The Hobbit #1 On Friday, Crosses $200 Million Aragorn the Elfstone 206 2 Dec 29 2012, 5:56pm
           Collapse Now is the 6th biggest prequel (state side) Welsh hero 164 1 Dec 29 2012, 7:46pm
               It's actually up sauget.diblosio 153 0 Dec 29 2012, 8:10pm
       Now $600million Worldwide... Jim 157 0 Dec 29 2012, 8:44pm

  Collapse Thread Locked Guillermo's Hobbit Oin's parasite 684 3 Dec 28 2012, 8:30pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eledhwen)
       Thread Locked i don't think there has been any huge changes since... MouthofSauron 305 0 Dec 28 2012, 8:42pm
       Thread Locked i know that it would have been radically different from the LotR movies unexpectedvisitor 259 0 Dec 28 2012, 9:15pm
       Thread Locked Please can we discuss this in the thread below? Eledhwen 249 0 Dec 28 2012, 9:17pm

  Collapse The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug synopsis TheImaginator 1578 31 Dec 28 2012, 6:00pm Jump to last post in thread (by DanielLB)
       Collapse regarding Thrain MouthofSauron 668 11 Dec 28 2012, 6:09pm
           Collapse same here, Aragalen the Green 613 10 Dec 28 2012, 6:14pm
               Collapse i could see that working MouthofSauron 605 9 Dec 28 2012, 6:17pm
                   Collapse that's the flaw in my reasoning, Aragalen the Green 562 8 Dec 28 2012, 6:36pm
                       Collapse it also could be.... MouthofSauron 447 7 Dec 28 2012, 8:36pm
                           Collapse Agreed. His response was full of apprehension, but not doubt. AinurOlorin 423 6 Dec 28 2012, 8:46pm
                               Collapse exactly MouthofSauron 397 5 Dec 28 2012, 8:51pm
                                   Collapse Isn't it possible... Frodo Lives 388 3 Dec 28 2012, 9:12pm
                                       Collapse that would be a huge plothole MouthofSauron 377 1 Dec 28 2012, 9:31pm
                                           Mirkwood and Laketown Mahtion 374 0 Dec 28 2012, 9:52pm
                                       Not to Gandalf. AinurOlorin 293 0 Dec 28 2012, 10:58pm
                                   So do I! and I'm convinced even more Aragalen the Green 281 0 Dec 28 2012, 11:30pm
       Collapse Movie / Book herzogian 575 1 Dec 28 2012, 6:21pm
           I know what you mean... adnan 457 0 Dec 28 2012, 7:50pm
       Collapse Ok brucewayne 554 9 Dec 28 2012, 6:33pm
           Collapse There's a lot more than just the BO5A after ... DanielLB 587 7 Dec 28 2012, 6:37pm
               not to mention Lindele 534 0 Dec 28 2012, 7:01pm
               Collapse IMO a movie devoted entirely to the BoFA (and its build-up and resolution) sounds terrible... Captain Salt 349 5 Dec 28 2012, 10:22pm
                   Collapse We'll have a clearer picture once we know how DOS will turn out DanielLB 351 2 Dec 28 2012, 10:29pm
                       Collapse Sorry you're not a fan of the term Captain Salt 321 1 Dec 28 2012, 10:34pm
                           No, I've not seen it. DanielLB 294 0 Dec 28 2012, 10:56pm
                   Collapse I think the climax of the Smaug thread is far better suited to Film 3... Kendalf 260 1 Dec 29 2012, 12:47am
                       I hope this is the case.. Captain Salt 137 0 Dec 29 2012, 2:23am
           WELL, it's very possible actually. TheImaginator 337 0 Dec 28 2012, 10:34pm
       Very Interesting! callumtaylor90 284 0 Dec 28 2012, 11:30pm
       barrels won't be midpoint of DoS lidlessEye 119 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:33pm
       Collapse My take Arannir 128 4 Dec 29 2012, 1:23pm
           Collapse I've not read most of the back story. callumtaylor90 95 1 Dec 29 2012, 1:34pm
               Partially appendices & partially their own invention// Ardamírë 79 0 Dec 29 2012, 6:31pm
           Collapse Still think... nhui06 39 1 Dec 31 2012, 6:48pm
               Yes, I agree. DanielLB 43 0 Dec 31 2012, 6:57pm

  Collapse I do not get the..... YaznegSouth40 1354 42 Dec 28 2012, 4:39pm Jump to last post in thread (by RhodeCamelot)
       Collapse So-tell us what you liked about Azog! Aragalen the Green 593 6 Dec 28 2012, 4:43pm
           Collapse All I am saying.... YaznegSouth40 573 5 Dec 28 2012, 4:54pm
               Welcome to the internet. sauget.diblosio 511 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:58pm
               Azog badass Ęleniel Tindome 496 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:02pm
               Bravo! painjoiker 477 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:05pm
               I like his design and ... DanielLB 466 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:09pm
               Sadly, that's the nature of a comment thread. Aragalen the Green 373 0 Dec 28 2012, 6:50pm
       Collapse If this were the case DanielLB 520 1 Dec 28 2012, 4:43pm
           I can suggest it Ardamírë 465 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:06pm
       EY! painjoiker 501 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:47pm
       Collapse i sorta get it unexpectedvisitor 506 4 Dec 28 2012, 4:48pm
           Collapse Not quite the same as Lurtz Fredeghar Wayfarer 196 3 Dec 28 2012, 8:38pm
               Collapse Very true, and well stated by you. AinurOlorin 165 2 Dec 28 2012, 9:04pm
                   Collapse Azog and Arwen Mahtion 159 1 Dec 28 2012, 10:12pm
                       Personally GothmogTheBalrog 126 0 Dec 28 2012, 11:07pm
       Collapse In general Lindele 477 6 Dec 28 2012, 5:02pm
           Exactly...Lindele... YaznegSouth40 343 0 Dec 28 2012, 6:56pm
           Collapse Or it could be... Ardamírë 337 4 Dec 28 2012, 6:58pm
               Collapse Well if you are going to make the argument Lindele 235 3 Dec 28 2012, 7:08pm
                   Collapse He looks worse than all of those Ardamírë 235 2 Dec 28 2012, 7:09pm
                       I'm saying Lindele 221 0 Dec 28 2012, 7:16pm
                       Perhaps it's.... YaznegSouth40 198 0 Dec 28 2012, 8:16pm
       Collapse Well, that's the nature of the world Eledhwen 465 1 Dec 28 2012, 5:03pm
           Oh that is perfect. Ataahua 211 0 Dec 28 2012, 8:12pm
       Collapse No one says they hate him like Hitler... Kassandros 428 3 Dec 28 2012, 5:22pm
           Collapse Kassandros I understand that.... YaznegSouth40 331 2 Dec 28 2012, 7:07pm
               Collapse "The Warrior's of Nain, Gror's son, drove through the orcs. . . all the while they cried 'Azog! Azog!" AinurOlorin 255 1 Dec 28 2012, 7:59pm
                   On The Dwarves having Azog's name on their axes. . . I attempted editing this post AinurOlorin 204 0 Dec 28 2012, 8:18pm
       Azog work for me Simon 422 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:22pm
       I don't hate him, sauget.diblosio 422 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:25pm
       Collapse I will say again, the character is fine, as I see him. His placement is horrendous, and is part of a larger flaw. AinurOlorin 400 2 Dec 28 2012, 6:12pm
           Collapse I highly agree!. I just can't tear myself away from that canon which is ingrained in my head :(. -that's- exactly what I've found wrong Xanaseb 376 1 Dec 28 2012, 6:35pm
               Not a purist either. sauget.diblosio 351 0 Dec 28 2012, 6:53pm
       Collapse I think one can sum up the Azog-hate quite easily: Iowaboy 429 4 Dec 28 2012, 6:44pm
           Couldn't have said it better Iowaboy IDLookout 188 0 Dec 28 2012, 8:25pm
           Collapse I agree with you Iowaboy Elenorflower 171 2 Dec 28 2012, 9:20pm
               Collapse edit: this comment had small beginnings unexpectedvisitor 153 1 Dec 28 2012, 10:29pm
                 Thank you for being so wonderfully insightful & optimistic! // RhodeCamelot 41 0 Jan 1 2013, 11:58am
       How about Jar Jar Binks? Ardamírë 358 0 Dec 28 2012, 6:56pm
       I liked Azog - wayyy more than Gothmog from ROTK morgul lord 141 0 Dec 28 2012, 11:04pm
       I loved the film Rostron2 103 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:35am
       I too loved the movies and thought Azog was cool Ziggy Stardust 103 0 Dec 29 2012, 1:37am

  Collapse DOS photos.. new? Bombur enchanted in forest and the laketown master lastairbender 1726 13 Dec 28 2012, 4:26pm Jump to last post in thread (by DanielLB)
       The picture of the Master DanielLB 870 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:31pm
       cool pics MouthofSauron 599 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:58pm
       Bombur Ardamírë 588 0 Dec 28 2012, 6:36pm
       Stephen Fry looks insane as the Master! sycorax82 414 0 Dec 28 2012, 9:37pm
       Collapse Clickable, Pretty Please! // The Grey Elf 362 7 Dec 28 2012, 10:41pm
           Collapse Here you go: DanielLB 432 6 Dec 28 2012, 10:51pm
               Collapse Did the alternate production video from Comic-Con ever leak online? anthonyroy 341 4 Dec 29 2012, 12:05am
                   Collapse There was leaked vlog #8 Ardamírë 334 3 Dec 29 2012, 12:59am
                       Collapse Yup DanielLB 210 2 Dec 29 2012, 10:21am
                           Collapse Cool pictures ! Erudryt 118 1 Dec 30 2012, 8:54am
                               She'll probably be shown in the next trailer DanielLB 126 0 Dec 30 2012, 9:27am
               Thanks, Daniel -- You Always Come Through! // The Grey Elf 260 0 Dec 29 2012, 2:30am
       Nice! Kendalf 309 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:05am

  Collapse Sound quality - Dwarven dialects and Gollum Eruonen 595 14 Dec 28 2012, 3:31pm Jump to last post in thread (by ryouko)
       Collapse Being English myself .... DanielLB 322 4 Dec 28 2012, 3:53pm
           Collapse Yes, there are a few dialogue scenes that escape some people Eruonen 293 2 Dec 28 2012, 3:58pm
               Collapse Is it for the entire sequence? DanielLB 258 1 Dec 28 2012, 4:20pm
                   There were parts of the riddle sequence sauget.diblosio 222 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:50pm
           I loved the accents! ryouko 97 0 Dec 29 2012, 2:02am
       Collapse Dwalin's definitely Scottish Eledhwen 262 1 Dec 28 2012, 4:15pm
           I would have to hear the line he said at Bilbo's Eruonen 251 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:23pm
       This is the first time I've heard that... painjoiker 218 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:52pm
       I agree about the Khuzdul... it was way too muffled for me.. battle-cries were inaudible etc. :( // Xanaseb 168 0 Dec 28 2012, 6:47pm
       Collapse as for Gollum, I understood absolutely everything he said o.O ... I'm British like Daniel too. hmm // Xanaseb 145 3 Dec 28 2012, 7:21pm
           Collapse I understood Gollum just fine, Aragalen the Green 136 2 Dec 28 2012, 8:59pm
               Collapse yes dwalin Scottish accent demanon 120 1 Dec 28 2012, 9:27pm
                   I loved it when he says "Laddy" to Bilbo! Ziggy Stardust 103 0 Dec 29 2012, 1:44am
       I understood the accents fine Ziggy Stardust 95 0 Dec 29 2012, 1:43am

  Collapse Any comment from Guillermo Del Toro on AUJ? Silmaril 1534 56 Dec 28 2012, 9:08am Jump to last post in thread (by guitarzankansasfan)
       Collapse i have no useful information about this awepittance 734 7 Dec 28 2012, 9:27am
           Collapse Or he's a very busy man? DanielLB 699 6 Dec 28 2012, 9:46am
               Collapse Or he's just smart? Silverlode 708 5 Dec 28 2012, 10:00am
                   Collapse just a theory, i have no evidence to support my claim awepittance 732 4 Dec 28 2012, 10:08am
                       Collapse If it's just your idea, with no evidence to support it... dormouse 629 1 Dec 28 2012, 11:30am
                           At the same time.. jtarkey 616 0 Dec 28 2012, 11:37am
                       Collapse Always you must meddle. Looking for trouble where none exists. painjoiker 633 1 Dec 28 2012, 11:39am
                           Kudos on quoting AUJ!! jtarkey 616 0 Dec 28 2012, 11:43am
       Collapse It's certainly Odd that he hasn't said anything... jtarkey 635 35 Dec 28 2012, 11:29am
           Collapse I think that GDT refrains to comment on the Hobbit... sharpened_graphite 608 33 Dec 28 2012, 12:43pm
               Collapse Animatronix vs CGI = A. wins! Ęleniel Tindome 507 32 Dec 28 2012, 2:37pm
                   Collapse disagree jimmyfenn 495 2 Dec 28 2012, 2:48pm
                       Collapse jarry mechanical puppetry stoutfiles 473 1 Dec 28 2012, 2:52pm
                           also jimmyfenn 452 0 Dec 28 2012, 2:58pm
                   Collapse could not Lindele 463 26 Dec 28 2012, 2:51pm
                       Collapse I'd argue that CGI under GDT's supervision is much better than Peter's. sharpened_graphite 467 11 Dec 28 2012, 2:57pm
                           Collapse completely disagree unexpectedvisitor 438 6 Dec 28 2012, 3:24pm
                               agree Lindele 282 0 Dec 28 2012, 3:45pm
                               Collapse PJ's King Kong is a beast all of it's own... sharpened_graphite 279 4 Dec 28 2012, 4:05pm
                                   I will say this Lindele 257 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:10pm
                                   Collapse hmm unexpectedvisitor 234 2 Dec 28 2012, 4:35pm
                                       could not Lindele 223 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:40pm
                                       I thought Goblin Town was well done for what it was... sharpened_graphite 220 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:02pm
                           I'd argue against that again Lindele 288 0 Dec 28 2012, 3:36pm
                           Collapse In the words of the Virgin Mary... Crunchable Birdses 137 2 Dec 28 2012, 9:23pm
                               Collapse Beg to disagree. sharpened_graphite 94 1 Dec 29 2012, 12:37am
                                   GDT one of the best Mahtion 92 0 Dec 29 2012, 2:16am
                       Collapse Just for clarification stoutfiles 426 13 Dec 28 2012, 3:11pm
                           Collapse I definitely Lindele 285 8 Dec 28 2012, 3:38pm
                               Collapse exactly unexpectedvisitor 274 7 Dec 28 2012, 3:51pm
                                   Collapse Did you watch another movie? The Eagles were the worst animated figures in the movie...and there were close ups (where you could see poor animated feathers) Ęleniel Tindome 277 6 Dec 28 2012, 4:02pm
                                       yes, we must have watched a different movie Lindele 276 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:07pm
                                       huh? unexpectedvisitor 258 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:15pm
                                       Collapse I thought the eagles were beautiful DanielLB 247 2 Dec 28 2012, 4:21pm
                                           Eagles Close up and total Ęleniel Tindome 255 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:25pm
                                           The CGI on the eagles imin 253 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:32pm
                                       you serious?? MouthofSauron 201 0 Dec 28 2012, 6:05pm
                           Collapse I'll stop at three. Chainsaw Charlie 201 3 Dec 28 2012, 5:44pm
                               Collapse I'll give you Blade II stoutfiles 136 2 Dec 28 2012, 8:23pm
                                   i don't see how you could say that MouthofSauron 117 0 Dec 28 2012, 8:45pm
                                   at a lower budget i dunno that the CG would have suffered... unexpectedvisitor 123 0 Dec 28 2012, 8:45pm
                   Collapse Actually GDT's approach is a mixture of both! sharpened_graphite 462 1 Dec 28 2012, 2:51pm
                       Exactly - would have been great Ęleniel Tindome 445 0 Dec 28 2012, 3:01pm
           aww man... stoutfiles 515 0 Dec 28 2012, 1:49pm
       Collapse I still believe he walked away because he knew it would never fully be his vision sycorax82 543 4 Dec 28 2012, 1:58pm
           I think it was the delays BeornBerserker 495 0 Dec 28 2012, 2:23pm
           Collapse why are people inventing problems? unexpectedvisitor 303 2 Dec 28 2012, 3:40pm
               agree Lindele 276 0 Dec 28 2012, 3:45pm
               I think when GDT was on board imin 287 0 Dec 28 2012, 3:51pm
       Collapse animatronics wouldn't work unexpectedvisitor 556 1 Dec 28 2012, 3:33pm
           agree Lindele 282 0 Dec 28 2012, 3:46pm
       Perhaps we ought to let GDT speak for himself. Silverlode 188 0 Dec 28 2012, 7:40pm
       maybe it'll be like SPIDERMAN carrioncrow 96 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:20am
       Collapse GdT probably doesn't feel it's his film to commen upon... Captain Salt 91 2 Dec 29 2012, 2:27am
           Exactly, thank you // Rostron2 49 0 Dec 29 2012, 10:31pm
           Asking GdT about AUJ is guitarzankansasfan 71 0 Dec 30 2012, 4:49am

  Collapse Has anyone been picked to play the part of (spoilers) - Hanzkaz 856 5 Dec 28 2012, 7:45am Jump to last post in thread (by Ardamírë)
       Collapse Náin who? DanielLB 331 3 Dec 28 2012, 9:50am
           Collapse Glorfindel WAS shown. AinurOlorin 178 2 Dec 28 2012, 5:43pm
               Collapse Is the character officially called Glorfindel (the one at the end of ROTK?) / DanielLB 157 1 Dec 28 2012, 5:52pm
                   No, he's not.// Ardamírë 144 0 Dec 28 2012, 6:39pm
       Because of the changes.... YaznegSouth40 170 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:45pm

  The Hobbit’s Dwarf Actors Get Quizzed on Their Source Material BeornBerserker 615 0 Dec 28 2012, 2:49am Jump to last post in thread (by BeornBerserker)

  Collapse Not sure: could have Thorin been given the dwarven Ring during the battle outside Moria? xxxyyy 493 11 Dec 28 2012, 2:20am Jump to last post in thread (by Kangi Ska)
       Thorin doesn't have the Ring? / DanielLB 205 0 Dec 28 2012, 9:56am
       Collapse Sauron should have the ring stoutfiles 167 9 Dec 28 2012, 2:18pm
           Collapse Thorin HAS the ring, proof, music. xxxyyy 148 8 Dec 28 2012, 5:28pm
               The "other Dwarf" is Thrain, Thorin's father. Aragalen the Green 119 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:30pm
               Collapse Proof ... DanielLB 125 6 Dec 28 2012, 5:35pm
                   Collapse Agreed. Though the Rings are not always visible on the hands of their wearers, AinurOlorin 113 1 Dec 28 2012, 5:42pm
                       Explanation of the Thorin Ring: Ęleniel Tindome 113 0 Dec 28 2012, 7:11pm
                   Collapse Well, Gandalf wears a Ring, but we only see it at the end of ROTK. xxxyyy 74 3 Dec 29 2012, 1:47am
                       Collapse I like to to think RalphDamiani 69 2 Dec 29 2012, 2:18am
                           Collapse I HATE little nods to fans. Their are cheap. xxxyyy 52 1 Dec 29 2012, 2:55am
                               Well.. Kangi Ska 38 0 Dec 29 2012, 10:57am
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