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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Collapse 48 fps thoughts HobbitBreakfast 731 46 Dec 27 2012, 3:47am Jump to last post in thread (by imin)
       Collapse Honestly duats 397 1 Dec 27 2012, 5:19am
           It didn't bother me either burgahobbit 365 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:33am
       Collapse Am going tomorrow night, in Australia TheBladeGlowsBlue 313 1 Dec 27 2012, 8:39am
           FYI - It won't be 5K resolution... Owain 215 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:05pm
       Collapse I don't think DanielLB 331 30 Dec 27 2012, 8:42am
           Collapse We have to remember TheBladeGlowsBlue 308 1 Dec 27 2012, 10:36am
               I imagine he will... DanielLB 292 0 Dec 27 2012, 11:21am
           I think the CG is good RalphDamiani 287 0 Dec 27 2012, 11:39am
           Collapse so many different opinions unexpectedvisitor 224 1 Dec 27 2012, 4:06pm
               Let me clarify ... DanielLB 216 0 Dec 27 2012, 4:43pm
           Collapse Same problem with 24fps Ardamírë 202 24 Dec 27 2012, 7:04pm
               Collapse I agree... jtarkey 173 23 Dec 27 2012, 8:20pm
                   Collapse well, i think Heavenly Creatures is his best individual film unexpectedvisitor 165 2 Dec 27 2012, 8:43pm
                       Collapse Heavenly Creatures is an example Ataahua 157 1 Dec 27 2012, 8:59pm
                           The CGI is aging in LOTR imin 149 0 Dec 27 2012, 9:28pm
                   Collapse Yes, there is quite a bit of CG in ROTK Ardamírë 161 19 Dec 27 2012, 9:06pm
                       Collapse ... painjoiker 145 1 Dec 27 2012, 9:25pm
                           yeah... Ardamírë 142 0 Dec 27 2012, 9:28pm
                       Collapse i think the mixture in RotK vs. The Hobbit is very similar unexpectedvisitor 144 16 Dec 27 2012, 9:28pm
                           Collapse Bigatures Ardamírë 139 15 Dec 27 2012, 9:31pm
                               Collapse don't get me wrong unexpectedvisitor 127 14 Dec 27 2012, 9:55pm
                                   Collapse Rivendell looked beautiful in AUJ DanielLB 127 3 Dec 27 2012, 9:58pm
                                       Collapse I thought Rivendell Elenorflower 141 2 Dec 27 2012, 11:51pm
                                           Wholeheartedly agree Ardamírë 113 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:25am
                                           what unexpectedvisitor 105 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:47am
                                   Collapse Where was the scaling off in the lord of the rings? imin 107 9 Dec 27 2012, 11:41pm
                                       Collapse You thought the bigatures looked fake? Ardamírë 112 6 Dec 28 2012, 4:22am
                                           Collapse yeah some of them did imin 86 5 Dec 28 2012, 12:33pm
                                               Collapse exactly! its cramped Elenorflower 89 3 Dec 28 2012, 1:30pm
                                                   Collapse yeah, sorry, just don't know what you guys are talking about unexpectedvisitor 65 2 Dec 28 2012, 4:12pm
                                                       Collapse Sorry but its better in LOTR imin 60 1 Dec 28 2012, 4:28pm
                                                           the set was too small unexpectedvisitor 50 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:43pm
                                               Big water drops. Ardamírë 57 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:51pm
                                       Collapse not all of the forced perspective shots unexpectedvisitor 111 1 Dec 28 2012, 5:57am
                                           Fair enough imin 83 0 Dec 28 2012, 12:34pm
       Personally, it was one of the most impressive things I've seen in a theater Subaruman 265 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:23pm
       Collapse I saw it in 48fps today for the first time... ghost_matt 162 1 Dec 27 2012, 11:46pm
           I'm noticing a major trend... Kassandros 47 0 Dec 28 2012, 7:07pm
       Have seen it in both versions Loresilme 154 0 Dec 27 2012, 11:59pm
       It's quite sensational Kendalf 132 0 Dec 28 2012, 1:49am
       Collapse 48 fps looks tremendous...for what it is. Iowaboy 133 5 Dec 28 2012, 2:41am
           Collapse Iowaboy I agree Elenorflower 81 4 Dec 28 2012, 1:25pm
               Collapse Hey, if you're agreeing with me... Iowaboy 48 3 Dec 28 2012, 6:28pm
                   Collapse he he! darn tootin! Elenorflower 43 2 Dec 28 2012, 8:40pm
                       Collapse it still would have been a classic unexpectedvisitor 28 1 Dec 28 2012, 10:57pm
                           The CG plays a massive role imin 29 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:12am

Collapse 1 scene that needs to go!! Avnar 2222 90 Dec 27 2012, 1:44am Jump to last post in thread (by triptrap)
       Collapse One 'section' of Goblin Town Seaber 1105 3 Dec 27 2012, 1:50am
           Ori burping Mooseboy018 994 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:10am
           Collapse yeah, the burping seemed out of place..//. Bladerunner 149 1 Dec 28 2012, 1:19am
               Seems rather natural though, following Aragalen the Green 145 0 Dec 28 2012, 1:25am
       Collapse Nope Kangi Ska 1039 4 Dec 27 2012, 1:51am
           Collapse I disagree... Avnar 814 3 Dec 27 2012, 4:03am
               Collapse But it does work Kangi Ska 620 2 Dec 27 2012, 9:39am
                   Collapse I disagree shadow0421 153 1 Dec 28 2012, 12:39am
                       You took yourself out of the movie Kangi Ska 148 0 Dec 28 2012, 1:32am
       Collapse Only one?? Ardamírë 1016 8 Dec 27 2012, 2:02am
           Collapse This duats 966 3 Dec 27 2012, 2:06am
               Collapse Absolutely Ardamírë 905 2 Dec 27 2012, 2:13am
                   Collapse Lets not be hasty...// Kangi Ska 584 1 Dec 27 2012, 10:09am
                       Hasty? Ardamírë 295 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:50pm
           Collapse Oh no burgahobbit 717 3 Dec 27 2012, 5:20am
               Collapse It's really not needed duats 709 2 Dec 27 2012, 5:23am
                   "Who's Bilbo?" burgahobbit 718 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:30am
                   Thank you! Ardamírë 299 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:48pm
       So many to pick from! stoutfiles 946 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:08am
       I like every scene... Elutherian 868 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:21am
       Collapse It's too late, but I agree. Joe-Mathews 904 3 Dec 27 2012, 2:27am
           Collapse Radagast and the running rabbits Foul Dwimmerlaik 889 2 Dec 27 2012, 2:44am
               Stone giants GhostofMacbeth 873 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:52am
               I'm with you there RalphDamiani 809 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:23am
       no way! unexpectedvisitor 830 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:04am
       Collapse Only one sentence burgahobbit 757 1 Dec 27 2012, 5:24am
           Four words and a belly flop HermioneBaggins 218 0 Dec 27 2012, 7:34pm
       Harmless fun DanielLB 635 0 Dec 27 2012, 8:41am
       Wouldn't cut anything from Hobbit. LOTR, different story... morgul lord 618 0 Dec 27 2012, 9:30am
       Collapse Radagast herzogian 615 1 Dec 27 2012, 10:22am
           i thought unexpectedvisitor 304 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:55pm
       Collapse The only thing that I wish wasn't there, painjoiker 537 3 Dec 27 2012, 1:47pm
           Collapse Odd, wasn't it. DanielLB 317 1 Dec 27 2012, 3:31pm
               It didn't seem like a PJ-thing to do... painjoiker 260 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:21pm
           i know a lot of people don't like this bit unexpectedvisitor 300 0 Dec 27 2012, 4:02pm
       It's as believable as magic, dragons, elves and wraiths to name a few Tim 325 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:52pm
       Collapse None of them. Not one.... dormouse 317 1 Dec 27 2012, 3:28pm
           Agreed.// Owain 242 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:13pm
       Collapse Boy there is so much i would cut. Elenorflower 321 22 Dec 27 2012, 4:35pm
           Collapse Out of interest... DanielLB 288 3 Dec 27 2012, 4:41pm
               Collapse dont get me wrong Elenorflower 233 2 Dec 27 2012, 6:54pm
                   The moose Ardamírë 226 0 Dec 27 2012, 7:01pm
                   see, one thing you dislike unexpectedvisitor 221 0 Dec 27 2012, 7:13pm
           Are you my middle-earth soulmate? haha imin 268 0 Dec 27 2012, 4:52pm
           Collapse though i loved a lot of the stuff you want cut unexpectedvisitor 227 16 Dec 27 2012, 6:42pm
               Collapse well I would cut the bits Elenorflower 216 1 Dec 27 2012, 7:00pm
                   but that stuff is great unexpectedvisitor 179 0 Dec 27 2012, 8:33pm
               Collapse The White Council Ardamírë 234 12 Dec 27 2012, 7:00pm
                   Collapse Once again I find myself with a similar view as you... Eleniel 201 11 Dec 27 2012, 7:46pm
                       Collapse "weak" unexpectedvisitor 219 1 Dec 27 2012, 8:39pm
                           I meant 'weak' in comparison to what we might have had, Eleniel 208 0 Dec 27 2012, 9:09pm
                       Collapse I feel like a problem with it Ardamírë 214 8 Dec 27 2012, 8:51pm
                           Collapse Yes, the Appendices cover the doings, or lack of , of the WC... Eleniel 211 3 Dec 27 2012, 9:01pm
                               Collapse This is kind of off the topic Ardamírë 207 2 Dec 27 2012, 9:10pm
                                   Collapse Yup, he mentions the 7 Dwarf Rings DanielLB 184 1 Dec 27 2012, 9:53pm
                                       Indeed Ardamírë 176 0 Dec 27 2012, 10:11pm
                           Collapse ok, so... painjoiker 193 3 Dec 27 2012, 9:31pm
                               Collapse Not what I'm saying Ardamírë 185 2 Dec 27 2012, 9:36pm
                                   Collapse And it seems like we will get them in EE painjoiker 172 1 Dec 27 2012, 10:31pm
                                       Oh I hope so! Ardamírë 107 0 Dec 28 2012, 4:00am
               Azog could be cut JessCej 195 0 Dec 27 2012, 8:03pm
       I wouldn't change anything... Owain 247 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:12pm
       Collapse Chop half of the Goblin Chase IDLookout 234 1 Dec 27 2012, 6:22pm
           The swaying bridge Ardamírë 226 0 Dec 27 2012, 6:37pm
       Collapse Difficult to choose elostirion74 208 10 Dec 27 2012, 9:15pm
           Collapse I liked the stone giants! JessCej 165 9 Dec 27 2012, 11:02pm
               Collapse I think everyone was made up when they heard the Stone Giants were going to be in... Eleniel 169 1 Dec 27 2012, 11:10pm
                   me too Elenorflower 148 0 Dec 28 2012, 12:03am
               Collapse I'm glad that the stone giants were in the film... sauget.diblosio 118 6 Dec 28 2012, 2:57am
                   Collapse what. the. heck. unexpectedvisitor 161 5 Dec 28 2012, 6:05am
                       Collapse I am not a fan of mindless action scenes imin 166 1 Dec 28 2012, 12:14pm
                           me too Elenorflower 116 0 Dec 28 2012, 3:26pm
                       Collapse Duh. sauget.diblosio 108 2 Dec 28 2012, 4:24pm
                           Collapse well, you either still feel the tension or you don't, i guess. unexpectedvisitor 103 1 Dec 28 2012, 5:35pm
                               I really liked goblin town sauget.diblosio 99 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:58pm
       The film had its fair share of cringeworthy moments, but nothing I found intolerable. Flagg 191 0 Dec 27 2012, 10:33pm
       too many to count tolkienreborn 174 0 Dec 28 2012, 12:04am
       Sorry, McCoy... Kendalf 140 0 Dec 28 2012, 1:57am
       Collapse I agree, that's the only scene that took me out of the movie; so they could change the Goblim king sentence before he dies. xxxyyy 132 1 Dec 28 2012, 2:16am
           Silence would have been better! painjoiker 121 0 Dec 28 2012, 2:36am
       Collapse quite a few actually triptrap 145 2 Dec 28 2012, 12:14pm
           Collapse the trolls are pretty silly in the book unexpectedvisitor 111 1 Dec 28 2012, 5:15pm
               The trolls were fine. sauget.diblosio 101 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:41pm
       Collapse The slightest of tweaking Elessar 77 2 Dec 29 2012, 2:05pm
           Collapse Those are all elements of PJ going too far with seemingly no one to tell him to stop // imin 63 1 Dec 30 2012, 12:17am
               They're mistakes for sure Elessar 57 0 Dec 30 2012, 1:29am
       Collapse Wait a minute Morok Cloudkeeper 47 3 Dec 30 2012, 10:58am
           Collapse oh yeah tell me more triptrap 38 2 Dec 30 2012, 1:05pm
               Collapse Well Morok Cloudkeeper 57 1 Dec 30 2012, 1:17pm
                   let's go on then triptrap 81 0 Dec 30 2012, 1:36pm

  Collapse The White Council's reasons for not supporting Thorin Ataahua 1141 21 Dec 27 2012, 1:26am Jump to last post in thread (by Mardragon)
       I saw it last night... Avnar 634 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:29am
       Collapse My understanding RalphDamiani 704 7 Dec 27 2012, 1:47am
           very good synopsis ralph BeornBerserker 523 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:54am
           Gandalf never fully realizes his plans. stoutfiles 556 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:00am
           Collapse Which is all understandable for book readers, Ataahua 529 3 Dec 27 2012, 2:07am
               I don't believe one was given duats 484 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:09am
               None was given RalphDamiani 451 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:31am
               I think the movie spelled it out without having to explicitly state it Tim 282 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:30pm
           I'm not sure it's just the provoking of Smaug that the White Council are concerned about... Mardragon 125 0 Dec 28 2012, 12:58am
       Collapse i think it's pretty clear unexpectedvisitor 516 2 Dec 27 2012, 3:01am
           Collapse There are so many details Ataahua 200 1 Dec 27 2012, 6:04pm
               agreed.... there is much subtlety in that scene... Bombadil 183 0 Dec 27 2012, 7:13pm
       Saruman. arithmancer 463 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:16am
       Collapse And how did Saruman or Elrond plan to stop them? N.E. Brigand 450 7 Dec 27 2012, 3:50am
           And it isn't for Elrond, Galadriel or Saruman to approve or disapprove his individual activities. AinurOlorin 410 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:27am
           Collapse The answer is evident in the relationships of the council from this we can deduce Tim 276 3 Dec 27 2012, 2:27pm
               Collapse yeah unexpectedvisitor 228 2 Dec 27 2012, 4:25pm
                   Collapse How was Elrond going to "detain" the dwarves without blood being spilled? // N.E. Brigand 220 1 Dec 27 2012, 4:59pm
                       well unexpectedvisitor 181 0 Dec 27 2012, 7:27pm
           Collapse I just don't see it JessCej 129 1 Dec 27 2012, 11:30pm
               Good point about the Council of Elrond! N.E. Brigand 121 0 Dec 27 2012, 11:48pm

  Collapse Weapon stories: Black Arrow, Morgul blade and Sting redgiant 505 4 Dec 27 2012, 1:01am Jump to last post in thread (by RalphDamiani)
       Collapse I also think RalphDamiani 227 2 Dec 27 2012, 1:55am
           Collapse By saying "the" instead of "a" redgiant 133 1 Dec 27 2012, 9:51am
               Perhaps RalphDamiani 109 0 Dec 27 2012, 11:27am
       Since a bunch of new characters will be introduced in DOS DanielLB 148 0 Dec 27 2012, 8:47am

  Collapse That's different to the book: (spoilers maybe) titanium_hobbit 823 17 Dec 27 2012, 12:59am Jump to last post in thread (by N.E. Brigand)
       Collapse one carrioncrow 394 2 Dec 27 2012, 1:05am
           Collapse I'm curious about this also! Avnar 334 1 Dec 27 2012, 1:34am
               I think Azog's knowledge (so awkward saying that. Azog is DEAD!) will be linked to Sauron. AinurOlorin 272 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:37am
       No Bilbo meeting the dwarves at the Green Dragon... Bladerunner 338 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:12am
       Collapse You mean different from both books? N.E. Brigand 341 3 Dec 27 2012, 1:28am
           Do significantly mispronounced names count as a change? N.E. Brigand 595 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:34am
           Collapse Balin's age. N.E. Brigand 112 1 Dec 27 2012, 11:43pm
               Balin Lookout carrioncrow 91 0 Dec 28 2012, 1:04am
       Missing four riddles, not two. N.E. Brigand 240 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:21am
       Collapse Troll scene and events leading up to it Ruxendil_Thoorg 241 1 Dec 27 2012, 5:42am
           oh, the ponies! titanium_hobbit 95 0 Dec 28 2012, 12:44am
       Collapse "...and that means comfort" Cave Troll 242 2 Dec 27 2012, 8:57am
           Collapse yes, I found this jarring titanium_hobbit 110 1 Dec 28 2012, 12:38am
               Me too. Aragalen the Green 91 0 Dec 28 2012, 12:48am
       Movie-Bilbo doesn't decide to go back into the goblin-caves and rescue the dwarves. N.E. Brigand 94 0 Dec 28 2012, 3:33am
       Rivendell Ruxendil_Thoorg 91 0 Dec 28 2012, 3:50am
       In the book, Bilbo invites Gandalf to tea. // N.E. Brigand 89 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:33am

  Collapse Hunter orcs riding in broad daylight without any concern? irasel 1241 12 Dec 27 2012, 12:03am Jump to last post in thread (by MouthofSauron)
       Collapse Good point. Ataahua 574 4 Dec 27 2012, 12:07am
           Except for Gandalf's line in FOTR Ardamírë 641 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:08am
           and yet carrioncrow 529 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:11am
           SPF 40 ForestPark 464 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:26am
           In Gondor the sunlight was more or less covered by Sauron's broil of fume. irasel 447 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:38am
       RIDING in daylight Mooseboy018 520 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:21am
       I remember the Misty Mountain goblins specifically Aragalen the Green 503 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:33am
       It's a minor flaw stoutfiles 444 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:48am
       Collapse Sunlight and orcs Elthir 441 1 Dec 27 2012, 2:19am
           I agree Fredeghar Wayfarer 272 0 Dec 27 2012, 7:21am
       Isn't it because they are Gundabad Orcs DanielLB 329 0 Dec 27 2012, 8:39am
       orcs can, goblins cannot MouthofSauron 155 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:34am

Collapse Official Hobbit Review Thread #33 - Seen it for the first time, or have you been to a repeat viewing? Post your thoughts here! Ataahua 648 8 Dec 27 2012, 12:01am Jump to last post in thread (by silneldor)
       Quick second-hand thoughts on AUJ and HFR. Aragalen the Green 305 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:28am
       What is all the fuss about a Brilliant Film patrickk 303 0 Dec 27 2012, 4:13am
       Collapse After many long delays, here's my review (sorry, it's lengthy)... Aragorn the Elfstone 367 2 Dec 27 2012, 6:59am
           Excellent! Lindele 115 0 Dec 27 2012, 9:25pm
           Very nice review, indeed! elostirion74 115 0 Dec 27 2012, 9:47pm
       i don't know what to say triptrap 200 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:20pm
       largely very positive, despite some obvious weaknesses elostirion74 154 0 Dec 27 2012, 8:50pm
       A few thoughts, adjusted a little silneldor 98 0 Dec 28 2012, 3:50am

  Collapse Ruthless bashing of the movie and PJ TheWhiteRider 1998 72 Dec 26 2012, 10:43pm Jump to last post in thread (by Istari68)
       Collapse Can't say I agree with any of that ... DanielLB 1004 11 Dec 26 2012, 10:51pm
           Collapse Its just a shame it starts to go wrong after that :P // imin 927 10 Dec 26 2012, 10:54pm
               Collapse That may be so ... DanielLB 931 9 Dec 26 2012, 10:58pm
                   Collapse Disagree Ardamírë 885 6 Dec 26 2012, 11:02pm
                       Collapse You know what I really wish now? DanielLB 288 5 Dec 27 2012, 8:52am
                           Collapse I'd love one film each Ardamírë 283 4 Dec 27 2012, 3:59pm
                               Collapse I agree! painjoiker 247 3 Dec 27 2012, 5:32pm
                                   I love the LOTR films we got Ardamírë 243 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:39pm
                                   Collapse Let's get PJ to re-film them! ;-) / DanielLB 241 1 Dec 27 2012, 5:42pm
                                       How about no? // painjoiker 231 0 Dec 27 2012, 5:53pm
                   Collapse It was more a joke, lol imin 790 1 Dec 26 2012, 11:35pm
                       I always miss jokes on here! ;-) DanielLB 268 0 Dec 27 2012, 8:36am
       Obviously a complete jerk... the_argonath 935 0 Dec 26 2012, 10:52pm
       Collapse Regarding the article Ardamírë 882 4 Dec 26 2012, 11:12pm
           Collapse I did like the comment Ataahua 767 1 Dec 27 2012, 12:04am
               Haha, yeah, that was great!// Ardamírë 701 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:06am
           Collapse Agreed. He goes to far, and his more salient points are lost in the vitriol. AinurOlorin 698 1 Dec 27 2012, 12:14am
               Oh yes, I agree with many of his points, too. Ardamírë 617 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:07am
       Collapse Isn't there a large thread for talking about reviews? // geordie 769 1 Dec 26 2012, 11:18pm
           It had dropped off page one Ataahua 702 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:03am
       Collapse Unfortunately Elenorflower 859 31 Dec 26 2012, 11:20pm
           If you Lindele 802 0 Dec 26 2012, 11:31pm
           Collapse Did we watch the same movie? dubulous 794 1 Dec 26 2012, 11:43pm
               wow! demanon 733 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:05am
           Collapse I cannot agree. And I often do agree with you Elanor, all the more because I AinurOlorin 665 2 Dec 27 2012, 12:52am
               Collapse I am glad you liked it Elenorflower 346 1 Dec 27 2012, 12:13pm
                   Again, we agree. Istari68 167 0 Dec 27 2012, 10:54pm
           Collapse I agree. Istari68 463 13 Dec 27 2012, 1:30am
               I refuse to recognize anything of the kind.... whitetree 453 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:28am
               Collapse No intention of seeing it morgenstern 434 1 Dec 27 2012, 2:46am
                   Speak to that which you know. Kangi Ska 252 0 Dec 27 2012, 10:32am
               Collapse No it isn't. It just isn't. AinurOlorin 429 2 Dec 27 2012, 3:41am
                   Collapse Loremaster? Kangi Ska 239 1 Dec 27 2012, 11:03am
                       Well, you are too humble then. AinurOlorin 118 0 Dec 28 2012, 7:23am
               Collapse It is not a "flop"! Lissuin 372 2 Dec 27 2012, 5:55am
                   Collapse People who can make movies DO..... . Bombadil 338 1 Dec 27 2012, 6:47am
                       no Elenorflower 338 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:26pm
               This movie is by no means a flop TheWhiteRider 269 0 Dec 27 2012, 10:12am
               Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong macfalk 255 0 Dec 27 2012, 10:36am
               Collapse "we"? Crunchable Birdses 289 1 Dec 27 2012, 3:29pm
                   Opinion Istari68 159 0 Dec 27 2012, 11:08pm
           Collapse I agree with your assessment... Morthoron 402 10 Dec 27 2012, 3:51am
               Collapse Many are overreacting Mahtion 407 9 Dec 27 2012, 4:52am
                   Collapse Oh, look: someone's gone off his head! Morthoron 368 8 Dec 27 2012, 5:50am
                       Collapse An attempt from another perspective Mahtion 356 7 Dec 27 2012, 6:51am
                           The critique is not petty, it goes to the heart of the adaptation burrahobbit 414 0 Dec 27 2012, 11:46am
                           Collapse Fanfiction. arithmancer 291 5 Dec 27 2012, 3:43pm
                             Collapse That is enough of this subthread. Ataahua 241 4 Dec 27 2012, 6:15pm
                                   Collapse Apologies and Semantics Mahtion 218 3 Dec 27 2012, 7:11pm
                                       Bilbo in the movies (spoilers) - Hanzkaz 140 0 Dec 28 2012, 12:13am
                                       Collapse thanks. Elenorflower 73 1 Dec 29 2012, 12:22am
                                           A second chance... Istari68 54 0 Jan 4 2013, 9:16pm
       Collapse it was a negative review carrioncrow 753 6 Dec 26 2012, 11:59pm
           Collapse Opinions Tim 673 2 Dec 27 2012, 12:28am
               Collapse uh..what? carrioncrow 659 1 Dec 27 2012, 12:31am
                   Agree with some of what you say frodolives 630 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:52am
           Collapse Yes I wanted a family film also burrahobbit 640 2 Dec 27 2012, 12:53am
               Collapse i thought handing the reins... carrioncrow 628 1 Dec 27 2012, 1:01am
                   Del Toro burrahobbit 470 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:18am
     Christopher Tolkien... RalphDamiani 518 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:22am
       Time will tell Joe-Mathews 441 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:49am
       I agree with much of this review. N.E. Brigand 409 0 Dec 27 2012, 4:04am
       Collapse I am not looking for a movie version of the childrens book Michelle Johnston 392 8 Dec 27 2012, 7:13am
           A very hearty welcome to you, Michelle. Lissuin 320 0 Dec 27 2012, 7:26am
           Yes, thank you... whitetree 327 0 Dec 27 2012, 7:27am
           Ah Kangi Ska 255 0 Dec 27 2012, 10:44am
           A most welcome perspective! Welcome to TORN! // macfalk 238 0 Dec 27 2012, 10:45am
           Collapse this is the problem in a nutshell carrioncrow 385 1 Dec 27 2012, 12:05pm
               Is your vision a real alternative Michelle Johnston 98 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:04pm
           Collapse Beautifully put, Michelle ashonmytomatoes 330 1 Dec 27 2012, 2:17pm
               I used to think a Hobbit film would have to be censored - Hanzkaz 295 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:47pm
       responding in kind ... Escapist 71 0 Dec 29 2012, 12:45am

  Collapse Thorins home in the Blue Mountains... Avnar 834 9 Dec 26 2012, 10:22pm Jump to last post in thread (by Felagund)
       Collapse The seven kingdoms are all.... YaznegSouth40 475 3 Dec 26 2012, 11:00pm
           Collapse seven comes from LOTR titanium_hobbit 331 2 Dec 27 2012, 12:17am
               there is no 5 rings for people imin 297 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:20am
               Five...golden rings...// Aragalen the Green 278 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:34am
       Collapse The Eastern Dwarves Lasgalen 366 1 Dec 26 2012, 11:12pm
           This should answer RalphDamiani 292 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:02am
       It was just two dwarf kingdoms in the first edition of THE HOBBIT. N.E. Brigand 238 0 Dec 27 2012, 4:11am
       Thorin's realm Fredeghar Wayfarer 220 0 Dec 27 2012, 7:01am
       A history of the Dwarves of Ered Luin Felagund 205 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:22pm

  Collapse Am I the only person who didn't like Azog? JessCej 1031 67 Dec 26 2012, 6:41pm Jump to last post in thread (by AinurOlorin)
       Collapse No, not at all. Ardamírë 508 2 Dec 26 2012, 6:47pm
           Collapse Glad I'm not the only one :) JessCej 459 1 Dec 26 2012, 6:48pm
               Give it enough time Ardamírë 461 0 Dec 26 2012, 6:50pm
       The majority here didn't like him Carne 475 0 Dec 26 2012, 6:50pm
       I haven't heard many people Lindele 449 0 Dec 26 2012, 6:51pm
       Collapse I have the same emotional attachment to Azog that I have to any Orc Tim 470 4 Dec 26 2012, 6:59pm
           perfectly put Lindele 421 0 Dec 26 2012, 7:06pm
           Collapse I'm not saying that I wanted to like Azog JessCej 417 1 Dec 26 2012, 7:12pm
               Necessary is not really a word to be used with art Tim 401 0 Dec 26 2012, 7:28pm
           The Great Goblin is my new exception. AinurOlorin 149 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:05am
       Collapse The answer to all "am I the only one" questions is always .... DanielLB 424 1 Dec 26 2012, 7:13pm
           I'm fine with Azog, Ataahua 391 0 Dec 26 2012, 7:35pm
       No, I didn't like him either. Aragalen the Green 403 0 Dec 26 2012, 7:15pm
       I liked him guitarzankansasfan 386 0 Dec 26 2012, 7:33pm
       I don't like when the book is altered...ever stoutfiles 401 0 Dec 26 2012, 7:34pm
       Collapse No, you're not. sauget.diblosio 378 1 Dec 26 2012, 7:39pm
           I'm a Pseudohater MorgolKing 363 0 Dec 26 2012, 7:51pm
       Collapse I didn't like him at first... Elutherian 367 3 Dec 26 2012, 7:58pm
           Collapse Out of interest... DanielLB 342 2 Dec 26 2012, 8:05pm
               Collapse For me it was the change in story .... JessCej 221 1 Dec 26 2012, 10:00pm
                   I agree with you here DanielLB 196 0 Dec 26 2012, 10:24pm
       Collapse I think he's a product of the three film decision burrahobbit 380 2 Dec 26 2012, 8:08pm
           I agree IDLookout 333 0 Dec 26 2012, 8:20pm
           Bolg would have been much better. Bolg, at least, would remain a secondary villain. AinurOlorin 153 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:10am
       Collapse The question is macfalk 351 6 Dec 26 2012, 8:17pm
           Collapse I don't have a copy of the book handy at the moment ... but who... DanielLB 338 5 Dec 26 2012, 8:41pm
               Which book/s? Aragalen the Green 303 0 Dec 26 2012, 8:52pm
               Collapse Do you mean Shagrat and Gorbag in TTT?// Eowyn of Penns Woods 314 3 Dec 26 2012, 8:52pm
                   Collapse Possibly DanielLB 203 2 Dec 26 2012, 10:20pm
                       Collapse Yes, that's right. N.E. Brigand 133 1 Dec 27 2012, 4:18am
                           Thank you N.E. Brigand :-) DanielLB 106 0 Dec 27 2012, 8:51am
       Collapse I'm a bit undecided. Mardragon 253 5 Dec 26 2012, 9:05pm
           Collapse I agree that Azog's character should have been Bolg... Eleniel 258 1 Dec 26 2012, 9:20pm
               I have been wondering and half expecting exactly this AinurOlorin 128 0 Dec 27 2012, 2:15am
           Collapse Same!!! the_argonath 232 2 Dec 26 2012, 9:40pm
               Collapse Considering the size of the orc leaders compared to dwarves... Mardragon 173 1 Dec 26 2012, 11:09pm
                   I don't think Azog was a different breed either JessCej 164 0 Dec 26 2012, 11:20pm
       Collapse I could've done without him, - but he wasn't a deal-breaker either.... Bladerunner 265 2 Dec 26 2012, 9:36pm
           Collapse A couple of questions... Avnar 225 1 Dec 26 2012, 10:01pm
               I think the Great Goblin was just the leader of the Goblin-town goblins. Bladerunner 107 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:05am
       Collapse The CGI on Azog wasn't bad at all Skaan 212 9 Dec 26 2012, 10:20pm
           Collapse Um, i just saw the film last night, sauget.diblosio 212 8 Dec 26 2012, 10:45pm
               Collapse There's nothing about the CGI of Azog Tim 195 4 Dec 26 2012, 10:53pm
                   Collapse Agreed DanielLB 174 3 Dec 26 2012, 11:02pm
                       Hehe, I'm definitely up for that // the_argonath 156 0 Dec 26 2012, 11:17pm
                       Collapse Gonna need something to hang up next to our Tim 153 1 Dec 26 2012, 11:32pm
                           Absolutely! DanielLB 100 0 Dec 27 2012, 8:50am
               Collapse How I explain the dwarves' "cartoonish indestructibility"... Bladerunner 165 1 Dec 26 2012, 11:34pm
                   Yeah, i do try to keep that kind of stuff in mind, sauget.diblosio 145 0 Dec 26 2012, 11:47pm
               I also imagine that dwarves... Bladerunner 140 0 Dec 26 2012, 11:54pm
       Less dislike for Azog than for Great Goblin sevilodorf 193 0 Dec 26 2012, 10:43pm
       Collapse I'm an AA: Azog Ambivalent Kendalf 140 4 Dec 27 2012, 12:02am
           Collapse Bolg would have been better JessCej 130 1 Dec 27 2012, 12:16am
               All of the Azog wasn't necessary talk is premature Black Breathalizer 129 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:27am
           Exactly as you say. AinurOlorin 124 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:12am
           I agree, somewhat... arithmancer 118 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:55am
       Azog Elenorflower 118 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:35am
       I hated him the way Peter would have liked, but I also hated how out of place he was. AinurOlorin 145 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:57am
       not a fan - diminishes the vengeance motif Felagund 96 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:35pm
       Collapse I liked him - I DON'T understand the hate morgul lord 82 7 Dec 27 2012, 7:37pm
           Collapse Detracts from the film imin 74 6 Dec 27 2012, 9:32pm
               Collapse Yes, this is one of the major debating points... Eleniel 62 1 Dec 27 2012, 11:05pm
                   I agree ... JessCej 56 0 Dec 27 2012, 11:09pm
               Collapse But is he any worse than Lurtz? Or Gothmog? morgul lord 50 3 Dec 28 2012, 5:34am
                   Collapse He is great. .. the changes made to accomodate him are horrendous. AinurOlorin 60 2 Dec 28 2012, 7:19am
                       Collapse yeah exactly imin 53 1 Dec 28 2012, 12:18pm
                           Too true. AinurOlorin 42 0 Dec 28 2012, 5:14pm

  Collapse Will the next two films films be affected by the reception to AUJ? frodolives 1674 49 Dec 26 2012, 3:14pm Jump to last post in thread (by unexpectedvisitor)
       Collapse Underperformed? pandoraziki 1045 1 Dec 26 2012, 3:32pm
           I quite agree - I LOVED AUJ ltnjmy 522 0 Dec 26 2012, 8:12pm
       450 Million Lindele 922 0 Dec 26 2012, 3:44pm
       Hard to imagine KilroyMcFadden 828 0 Dec 26 2012, 3:47pm
       Collapse hmmm jimmyfenn 816 1 Dec 26 2012, 3:53pm
           I never said it wasn't successful frodolives 760 0 Dec 26 2012, 4:03pm
       It's a success RalphDamiani 754 0 Dec 26 2012, 4:20pm
       Collapse Jackson will stick to his guns burrahobbit 760 1 Dec 26 2012, 4:27pm
           I agree... the_argonath 360 0 Dec 26 2012, 10:14pm
       Boyens has already said the next two will be shorter films Crunchable Birdses 668 0 Dec 26 2012, 6:16pm
       Inventing problems where there are none Tim 605 0 Dec 26 2012, 6:19pm
       Collapse Also, it's the EEs that are likely to get the short shrift. Crunchable Birdses 632 5 Dec 26 2012, 6:20pm
           Collapse Underwhelming????? shadowdog 594 3 Dec 26 2012, 6:55pm
               Collapse It's selling less tickets than any of the LotR films Crunchable Birdses 454 2 Dec 26 2012, 9:11pm
                   Not to the studios shadowdog 351 0 Dec 26 2012, 11:22pm
                   Not sure Arannir 195 0 Dec 27 2012, 11:24am
           That would be a pity Ardamírë 557 0 Dec 26 2012, 6:59pm
       Collapse Short answer DanielLB 585 1 Dec 26 2012, 7:20pm
           I couldn´t agree more with you. // Anubis 469 0 Dec 26 2012, 8:05pm
       Collapse It's actually worse when you consider inflation and 3D stoutfiles 551 1 Dec 26 2012, 7:27pm
           Not fair Estel78 486 0 Dec 26 2012, 8:26pm
       It has 81% viewer support on Rottentomatoes. Ataahua 550 0 Dec 26 2012, 7:38pm
       In a word: NO Black Breathalizer 373 0 Dec 26 2012, 10:32pm
       I sue hope not dubulous 299 0 Dec 26 2012, 11:53pm
       Collapse "Yes, they will" is my short answer! Kendalf 315 6 Dec 27 2012, 12:30am
           Collapse I am hoping this is going to be the case imin 200 5 Dec 27 2012, 11:20am
               Collapse Ummm Crunchable Birdses 191 4 Dec 27 2012, 11:25am
                   Collapse I can dream though cant i? :P imin 188 2 Dec 27 2012, 11:31am
                       The problem is Crunchable Birdses 196 0 Dec 27 2012, 12:47pm
                       The investment shadowdog 147 0 Dec 27 2012, 4:31pm
                   I would hope not. What is interesting is that the very worst review, one in Huffington AinurOlorin 146 0 Dec 27 2012, 4:58pm
       Collapse I humbly predict carrioncrow 329 1 Dec 27 2012, 12:39am
           always yu must meddle; looking for trouble where none exists TheCoon 295 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:09am
       Collapse Heartbroken... Danielos 224 4 Dec 27 2012, 10:44am
           What is this "Under Performing" bit? Kangi Ska 243 0 Dec 27 2012, 10:54am
           Collapse Why should one care? DanielLB 205 2 Dec 27 2012, 11:21am
               Collapse This is very true imin 195 1 Dec 27 2012, 11:28am
                   It's also very simplistic ... DanielLB 145 0 Dec 27 2012, 3:36pm
       Collapse I am sure in terms of box office Elenorflower 142 10 Dec 27 2012, 4:55pm
           Collapse Beautiful Lady of the Loth (flower), did we see the same movie? AinurOlorin 132 2 Dec 27 2012, 5:29pm
               Collapse its funny you should mention Elenorflower 88 1 Dec 27 2012, 11:19pm
                   Fair enough. AinurOlorin 65 0 Dec 28 2012, 8:38am
           Collapse if it had been a straight-up adaptation of the book unexpectedvisitor 106 6 Dec 27 2012, 10:10pm
               Collapse I don't think we can say definitively one way or another would be better... Eleniel 86 5 Dec 27 2012, 11:23pm
                   Collapse that's fair enough! unexpectedvisitor 80 4 Dec 27 2012, 11:38pm
                       Collapse Ramkin & Bass made the animated Hobbit. AinurOlorin 84 3 Dec 28 2012, 8:41am
                           Collapse ah, yes, sorry unexpectedvisitor 47 2 Dec 28 2012, 5:49pm
                               Collapse Not at all. N.E. Brigand 41 1 Dec 28 2012, 8:29pm
                                   i meant more just the general look unexpectedvisitor 46 0 Dec 28 2012, 11:14pm

  Collapse Peter Jackson and The Hobbit cast on The Desolation Of Smaug Skaan 1393 3 Dec 26 2012, 2:37pm Jump to last post in thread (by TheSexyBeard)
       Thanks, very nice interviews Eruonen 627 0 Dec 26 2012, 3:19pm
       I did MorgolKing 502 0 Dec 26 2012, 4:30pm
       Thanks for the link TheSexyBeard 254 0 Dec 26 2012, 10:26pm

  Collapse Peter Jackson should create a downloadable in-theater commentary track for The Hobbit tiamy 259 1 Dec 26 2012, 2:20pm Jump to last post in thread (by demanon)
       that is a demanon 119 0 Dec 26 2012, 5:56pm

  Collapse Finished The Hobbit (question about The White Council and Dol Guldur) revecus 858 14 Dec 26 2012, 11:55am Jump to last post in thread (by AinurOlorin)
       Collapse Unlikely RalphDamiani 445 12 Dec 26 2012, 12:27pm
           Collapse Good point revecus 400 10 Dec 26 2012, 12:29pm
               Collapse Well... Otaku-sempai 329 9 Dec 26 2012, 2:49pm
                   Collapse It's likely based on Christopher Lee stoutfiles 362 1 Dec 26 2012, 2:53pm
                       Entirely possible... Otaku-sempai 320 0 Dec 26 2012, 2:58pm
                   Collapse Let's not forget RalphDamiani 297 6 Dec 26 2012, 4:04pm
                       Collapse I think the opposite Lightice 249 5 Dec 26 2012, 5:53pm
                           Collapse McCoy not working with Lee doesn't really tell us anything though dubulous 148 4 Dec 26 2012, 11:40pm
                               Collapse About Radagast RalphDamiani 118 3 Dec 27 2012, 2:25am
                                   Collapse The staff Radagast carries is not the staff Gandalf carries in Fellowship. Kangi Ska 83 2 Dec 27 2012, 10:57am
                                       Collapse Sylvester McCoy has confirmed it RalphDamiani 80 1 Dec 27 2012, 11:19am
                                           Damn. That Peter. . . AinurOlorin 73 0 Dec 27 2012, 4:43pm
           No second meeting! stoutfiles 371 0 Dec 26 2012, 1:31pm
       I am not so sure we will get the Dol Guldur Battle in film 2, unless it comes at the very end. AinurOlorin 126 0 Dec 27 2012, 1:20am

  Collapse If BoFA is yet to be filmed, what was Billy doing there? *Possible Spoilers* Arandir 1247 9 Dec 26 2012, 8:57am Jump to last post in thread (by sycorax82)
       Collapse Unfilmed? Fredeghar Wayfarer 675 4 Dec 26 2012, 9:19am
           Collapse My Thoughts exactly Arandir 622 3 Dec 26 2012, 9:29am
               I believe... jtarkey 527 0 Dec 26 2012, 10:46am
               It was always the plan DanielLB 525 0 Dec 26 2012, 11:03am
               My theory redgiraffe 479 0 Dec 26 2012, 11:18am
       Dain and the BO5A... DanielLB 504 0 Dec 26 2012, 11:20am
       Studio vs. Location? Bladerunner 394 0 Dec 26 2012, 1:14pm
       My hope is, indeed, that he has filmed stuff where he appears prior to the battle. Macfeast 240 0 Dec 26 2012, 6:09pm
       Most dialogue scenes will already be shot sycorax82 164 0 Dec 26 2012, 10:45pm
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