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  Collapse In regards to the whole "staying true to Tolkien" argument... Misty Mountain Hop 1439 114 Jun 12 2013, 3:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by Elenorflower)
       Collapse Sorry.. Olorin2607 781 42 Jun 12 2013, 3:24pm
           Collapse I probably missed the point as well telcontar7 735 23 Jun 12 2013, 3:29pm
               Yep. Olorin2607 688 0 Jun 12 2013, 3:34pm
               Collapse A film has to have internal logic frodolives 664 1 Jun 12 2013, 3:41pm
                   Gandalf wasn't as tubby as Bouncy Bombur... malickfan 636 0 Jun 12 2013, 3:46pm
               Collapse On fantasy... Otaku-sempai 625 5 Jun 12 2013, 3:49pm
                   I sort of see it. Dwarvenfury 271 0 Jun 12 2013, 7:37pm
                   Collapse Gravity telcontar7 47 3 Jun 22 2013, 8:21am
                       Collapse Dragons don't need to defy gravity... Otaku-sempai 41 2 Jun 22 2013, 12:28pm
                           Collapse They actually do need to defy it to be able to fly telcontar7 31 1 Jun 22 2013, 1:47pm
                               Proably, yes. Otaku-sempai 21 0 Jun 22 2013, 10:06pm
               Collapse physics Elenorflower 455 12 Jun 12 2013, 5:16pm
                   Collapse Or physiology. Elizabeth 193 3 Jun 13 2013, 7:23am
                       Collapse yes you are right Elenorflower 139 2 Jun 13 2013, 11:38am
                           Collapse Two different modes Na Vedui 192 1 Jun 13 2013, 7:56pm
                               yes you are right Elenorflower 181 0 Jun 13 2013, 10:02pm
                   Collapse biology? telcontar7 48 7 Jun 22 2013, 8:04am
                       Collapse Dwarves Elenorflower 44 6 Jun 22 2013, 12:57pm
                           Collapse I was not comparing the dragon to the Dwarves. Otaku-sempai 38 3 Jun 22 2013, 1:08pm
                               Collapse and I was not replying Elenorflower 27 2 Jun 22 2013, 6:52pm
                                   Collapse I apologize Otaku-sempai 17 1 Jun 22 2013, 10:08pm
                                       No problemo Elenorflower 18 0 Jun 22 2013, 10:12pm
                           Collapse I wasn't comparing them to dragons telcontar7 31 1 Jun 22 2013, 1:44pm
                               you expect realistic physics from Dwarves Elenorflower 25 0 Jun 22 2013, 6:57pm
               This tarasaurus 282 0 Jun 12 2013, 7:32pm
           Collapse No, I definitely agree with you there... Misty Mountain Hop 661 1 Jun 12 2013, 3:32pm
               I don't expect "word for word" agreement with the books... Elizabeth 191 0 Jun 13 2013, 7:19am
           I disagree with some shadowdog 654 0 Jun 12 2013, 3:32pm
           Collapse Well speculation Lindele 613 13 Jun 12 2013, 3:50pm
               Collapse I hate repeating it all over again. Olorin2607 566 1 Jun 12 2013, 4:10pm
                   Well Lindele 538 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:14pm
               Collapse I know the Nazgul tombs are complete nonsense Elenorflower 457 10 Jun 12 2013, 5:23pm
                   Collapse Actually Lindele 349 8 Jun 12 2013, 6:07pm
                       Collapse that is ABSOLUTELY true Misty Mountain Hop 347 3 Jun 12 2013, 6:12pm
                           The very first time i saw the trailer imin 328 0 Jun 12 2013, 6:30pm
                           Collapse That is the saddest thing of all.... dormouse 320 1 Jun 12 2013, 6:44pm
                               yeah... Misty Mountain Hop 282 0 Jun 12 2013, 7:27pm
                       Collapse CGI and Perception IdrilofGondolin 247 3 Jun 13 2013, 12:48am
                           Collapse Just curious.... Kdgard 201 2 Jun 13 2013, 5:28am
                               Collapse I wondered that too... Misty Mountain Hop 97 1 Jun 15 2013, 4:07pm
                                   I was also 13 when ROTK was released! jtarkey 85 0 Jun 16 2013, 4:18am
                   Don't agree... bborchar 280 0 Jun 12 2013, 7:35pm
           I completely disagree with you, but sphdle1 252 0 Jun 13 2013, 12:33am
       Collapse Staying True Elessar 697 24 Jun 12 2013, 3:31pm
           Collapse I've been trying to say this redgiraffe 536 21 Jun 12 2013, 4:22pm
               I'm with ya on that. Elessar 490 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:38pm
               Collapse Hear Hear! Old Toby 220 18 Jun 12 2013, 9:37pm
                   Agree, you cannot please everyone with such an endeavor. Eruonen 188 0 Jun 12 2013, 10:01pm
                   Collapse For what it's worth, I quite agree with you. Glorfindela 270 16 Jun 12 2013, 11:51pm
                       Collapse Do not catch the red ball Michelle Johnston 191 15 Jun 13 2013, 9:33am
                           Collapse Sorry ... tolktolk 169 5 Jun 13 2013, 10:39am
                               Collapse The standard responce Michelle Johnston 163 4 Jun 14 2013, 6:26am
                                   Collapse Please stick to discussing the topic and not each other. Silverlode 150 1 Jun 14 2013, 6:46am
                                       There is more to choice than political correctness Michelle Johnston 138 0 Jun 14 2013, 8:59am
                                   I kills me Yngwulff 139 0 Jun 14 2013, 7:25am
                                   Some people? tolktolk 64 0 Jun 15 2013, 9:34am
                           Collapse Thanks very much for the response, Michelle Glorfindela 163 7 Jun 13 2013, 11:10am
                               Collapse See from my point of view, it's very different. jtarkey 240 6 Jun 13 2013, 5:38pm
                                   Collapse And just to add one more thing that bothers me slightly jtarkey 236 3 Jun 13 2013, 5:46pm
                                       Collapse Help me understand. entmaiden 221 2 Jun 13 2013, 6:14pm
                                           Collapse I didn't form a conclusion based on an assumption at all... jtarkey 207 1 Jun 13 2013, 7:06pm
                                               OK, thanks.// entmaiden 192 0 Jun 13 2013, 7:40pm
                                   Hit the nail on the head. IDLookout 231 0 Jun 13 2013, 6:00pm
                                   Fans are Fans Elessar 221 0 Jun 13 2013, 6:15pm
                           erm Elenorflower 176 0 Jun 13 2013, 9:54pm
               When it comes to being "cheesy" or 'good/bad", then yes, we all have our own opinions...... Salmacis81 244 0 Jun 13 2013, 1:00am
           Collapse I think this is basically it imin 331 1 Jun 12 2013, 6:26pm
               Great post Elessar 195 0 Jun 12 2013, 9:54pm
       Collapse I can see your point, and I agree to an extent malickfan 638 2 Jun 12 2013, 3:41pm
           Collapse Very good point Misty Mountain Hop 589 1 Jun 12 2013, 3:55pm
               Very True malickfan 559 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:06pm
       It's a kid's book... bborchar 567 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:07pm
       Collapse Mythologies are pliable. kareniel 513 10 Jun 12 2013, 4:25pm
           Collapse myths are pliable Elenorflower 358 9 Jun 12 2013, 5:28pm
               Collapse Shakespeare's plays have been altered again and again. kareniel 221 8 Jun 12 2013, 9:30pm
                   Collapse a theatre production Elenorflower 180 6 Jun 12 2013, 10:15pm
                       Collapse not accurate BeornBerserker 158 4 Jun 12 2013, 11:06pm
                           Collapse I think you are missing my point Elenorflower 157 3 Jun 13 2013, 10:51am
                               Collapse I don't think so BeornBerserker 261 2 Jun 13 2013, 1:53pm
                                   Collapse well call me old fashioned Elenorflower 253 1 Jun 13 2013, 2:34pm
                                       I agree IDLookout 234 0 Jun 13 2013, 5:09pm
                       We just have different artistic philosophies, Elenorflower. kareniel 150 0 Jun 12 2013, 11:22pm
                   you are right about Pygmalion Elenorflower 153 0 Jun 13 2013, 11:11am
       I liked some of the changes in Game of thrones Welsh hero 472 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:55pm
       I agree OP, well said emre43 463 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:00pm
       Collapse you miss the point entirely jimmyfenn 463 1 Jun 12 2013, 5:22pm
           what is the point BeornBerserker 360 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:52pm
       Collapse Changes. Dwarvenfury 277 12 Jun 12 2013, 7:46pm
           Collapse I don't see how... bborchar 237 11 Jun 12 2013, 9:15pm
               Collapse Fans, Dwarvenfury 227 10 Jun 12 2013, 9:37pm
                   Collapse Well, that's one very strict definition of a "fan" bborchar 212 9 Jun 12 2013, 9:51pm
                       Collapse Yes, I know. I just said Dwarvenfury 165 8 Jun 12 2013, 11:03pm
                           Collapse But you're saying... bborchar 151 7 Jun 12 2013, 11:26pm
                               Collapse I never said Dwarvenfury 151 6 Jun 12 2013, 11:40pm
                                   Collapse They've said why they changed his age... bborchar 274 4 Jun 12 2013, 11:45pm
                                       Collapse Point Understood, I think. Dwarvenfury 280 3 Jun 12 2013, 11:52pm
                                           Collapse It could be a distinction to some... bborchar 264 2 Jun 13 2013, 12:01am
                                               I think i agree. Dwarvenfury 255 0 Jun 13 2013, 12:13am
                                               It's because Richard Armitage is a fantastic actor Glorfindela 275 0 Jun 13 2013, 12:14am
                                   thats an interesting point when you said, Elenorflower 140 0 Jun 13 2013, 12:00pm
       Collapse I liked it Rostron2 240 3 Jun 13 2013, 1:12am
           Collapse This... bborchar 231 2 Jun 13 2013, 1:26am
               Collapse Physics Yngwulff 218 1 Jun 13 2013, 4:02am
                   using an Elf as an example Elenorflower 275 0 Jun 13 2013, 12:07pm
       Collapse I have beef with this "bad cgi Smaug" nonsense The Mitch King 195 8 Jun 13 2013, 7:24am
           Collapse Do you think Smaug is just in shadow imin 186 7 Jun 13 2013, 8:19am
               It looked OK to me Yngwulff 181 0 Jun 13 2013, 8:25am
               do you remember in Jurrasic Park Elenorflower 278 0 Jun 13 2013, 12:17pm
               Collapse Shadow Elessar 223 4 Jun 13 2013, 6:08pm
                   Collapse Ah ok imin 108 3 Jun 14 2013, 3:41pm
                       Collapse On the big screen Elessar 110 2 Jun 14 2013, 3:46pm
                           Collapse Yeah that would be awesome, thank you :) imin 86 1 Jun 14 2013, 11:46pm
                               No problem Elessar 76 0 Jun 15 2013, 1:19am
       In my opinion CathrineB 85 0 Jun 16 2013, 11:06am

  Collapse The "unfinished/polished" CGI Issue Arandir 1135 33 Jun 12 2013, 2:51pm Jump to last post in thread (by easterlingchief1)
       yes LordGawain 604 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:56pm
       I would be willing Lindele 584 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:56pm
       Collapse cgi jimmyfenn 592 10 Jun 12 2013, 2:59pm
           Collapse Seeing some screencaps Arandir 543 2 Jun 12 2013, 3:19pm
               Bears vs. Dogs redgiraffe 438 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:03pm
               Totally a bear! tarasaurus 153 0 Jun 12 2013, 7:24pm
           Collapse Bear Bandit 471 4 Jun 12 2013, 3:29pm
               Collapse The bear's eyes Skaan 301 3 Jun 12 2013, 5:28pm
                   Collapse Other opinions on CGI BornOutOfTheWest 230 2 Jun 12 2013, 5:48pm
                       Children Lusitano 188 0 Jun 12 2013, 6:35pm
                       Out of the mouths of babes... // Eleniel 173 0 Jun 12 2013, 6:49pm
           Bear vs Dog Shagrat 391 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:08pm
           I couldn't originally tell the bear from a dog Glorfindela 389 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:09pm
       Collapse I fear you are correct frodolives 543 4 Jun 12 2013, 3:05pm
           Collapse Looking at the AUJ teaser now Arandir 547 2 Jun 12 2013, 3:12pm
               I disagree.. MorgolKing 369 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:32pm
               I'm not PJ's biggest fan imin 222 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:45pm
           Not a Middle Earth film but... easterlingchief1 48 0 Jun 13 2013, 6:02pm
       Collapse What I Said Below architecthis 473 5 Jun 12 2013, 3:43pm
           Collapse Adults? Arannir 439 2 Jun 12 2013, 3:56pm
               Collapse of course architecthis 399 1 Jun 12 2013, 4:07pm
                   On the CGI quality. Glorfindela 402 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:17pm
           Agreed malickfan 365 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:21pm
           the same thing architecthis 335 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:32pm
       I thought Legolas looked a little off, too. Kimtc 433 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:01pm
       Collapse Talking of which... Eleniel 417 1 Jun 12 2013, 4:05pm
           I was hoping for zombie elves and orcs ... DanielLB 353 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:27pm
       I doubt Weta is done with the CGI shots entmaiden 427 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:09pm
       I will say this redgiraffe 419 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:10pm
       design deskp 309 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:21pm
       CGI can look good. Escapist 227 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:47pm
       Collapse About the bear / dog? Escapist 110 1 Jun 12 2013, 10:43pm
           It's a Bear Yngwulff 79 0 Jun 13 2013, 3:29am

  Collapse Did PJ actually react to any criticism on AUJ? Olorin2607 1411 53 Jun 12 2013, 2:08pm Jump to last post in thread (by bborchar)
       Collapse I doubt it very much frodolives 781 4 Jun 12 2013, 2:15pm
           Collapse what were Maciliel 727 1 Jun 12 2013, 2:21pm
               Lovely Bones reviews frodolives 724 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:25pm
           Agreed Salmacis81 646 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:38pm
           Sort of like what happened with King Kong malickfan 649 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:52pm
       well from watching the trailer Elenorflower 715 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:22pm
       Collapse Certainly doesn't look like it... Salmacis81 667 31 Jun 12 2013, 2:36pm
           Collapse Roller-coaster telcontar7 625 30 Jun 12 2013, 2:47pm
               Collapse One of the main complaints about AUJ... Salmacis81 625 29 Jun 12 2013, 3:08pm
                   Collapse Human JWPlatt 568 3 Jun 12 2013, 3:21pm
                       Exactly Salmacis81 451 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:14pm
                       Collapse I think thats why GOT is so popular Elenorflower 325 1 Jun 12 2013, 5:49pm
                           I think that may be part of it but not all. Escapist 271 0 Jun 12 2013, 6:40pm
                   Collapse Physics? telcontar7 524 24 Jun 12 2013, 3:37pm
                       Hhhmmmm.... frodolives 488 0 Jun 12 2013, 3:45pm
                       Collapse If fantasy fims were the equivalent of Loony Tunes... Otaku-sempai 474 22 Jun 12 2013, 4:05pm
                           Collapse As opposed... bborchar 451 21 Jun 12 2013, 4:12pm
                               Collapse You're talking about two different things frodolives 435 9 Jun 12 2013, 4:14pm
                                   Collapse It's lazy writing... bborchar 358 7 Jun 12 2013, 4:20pm
                                       Collapse We'll have to agree to differ frodolives 329 3 Jun 12 2013, 4:24pm
                                           Collapse Well... bborchar 336 2 Jun 12 2013, 4:26pm
                                               Collapse Ridiculous to you, maybe Altaira 147 1 Jun 13 2013, 3:54am
                                                   I didn't mean it in a derogatory way... bborchar 137 0 Jun 13 2013, 4:43am
                                       Collapse Would it be ok imin 243 2 Jun 12 2013, 7:19pm
                                           It's not so much the times it happens... bborchar 235 0 Jun 12 2013, 7:30pm
                                           Beorn BeornBerserker 162 0 Jun 13 2013, 1:22am
                                   I would say that Frodo and Sam would have been incinerated at Mount Doom Glorfindela 345 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:24pm
                               That sequence was another example of where Jackson trying too hard to link TH with LotR blew it for me! Eleniel 375 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:18pm
                               Yeah. Pretty much... Otaku-sempai 355 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:19pm
                               magical Eagles that Elenorflower 283 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:44pm
                               Collapse Re: Eagles and such KW 50 7 Jun 14 2013, 5:57pm
                                   Collapse Coincidences do happen... bborchar 46 6 Jun 14 2013, 6:10pm
                                       Collapse Coincidences KW 49 5 Jun 14 2013, 8:34pm
                                           Collapse I guess I would rank them like this: bborchar 39 4 Jun 14 2013, 8:51pm
                                               Collapse My ranking is ever changing.. KW 60 3 Jun 14 2013, 11:10pm
                                                   Collapse I don't mind stories that take time to develop... bborchar 58 2 Jun 15 2013, 12:20am
                                                       Collapse I don't recall ever really having the pit stop problem myself.. KW 41 1 Jun 15 2013, 3:24pm
                                                           I've read The Illiad in English... bborchar 31 0 Jun 15 2013, 10:05pm
       Collapse He sticks to his vision. Arannir 582 6 Jun 12 2013, 3:09pm
           But by the same token... frodolives 569 0 Jun 12 2013, 3:15pm
           Collapse Sad.. Olorin2607 565 4 Jun 12 2013, 3:18pm
               Collapse Sorry? Arannir 553 3 Jun 12 2013, 3:23pm
                   Collapse Well. Olorin2607 518 2 Jun 12 2013, 3:30pm
                       I know... Arannir 518 0 Jun 12 2013, 3:33pm
                       I think thats what frustrates me the most Elenorflower 289 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:57pm
       Well... bborchar 454 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:10pm
       The fact that the teaser is so chock-full of things Captain Salt 469 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:14pm
       Collapse He didn't really comment on the LOTR complaints, either. Silverlode 341 1 Jun 12 2013, 5:18pm
           I'm sure you're right... Cave Troll 297 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:44pm
       Do you mean react as in release a statement or imin 257 0 Jun 12 2013, 7:16pm
       Needs no explanation, yet Dwarvenfury 239 0 Jun 12 2013, 7:54pm
       Jumping to conclusions from a trailer isn't Gandalfian Rostron2 166 0 Jun 13 2013, 1:16am
       I doubt that Peter Jackson worries much Noria 91 0 Jun 13 2013, 4:22pm

  Collapse What happened to Smaug?? (Comparison Pics) MorgolKing 1405 19 Jun 12 2013, 2:04pm Jump to last post in thread (by MouthofSauron)
       Collapse This is why... Shagrat 852 3 Jun 12 2013, 2:07pm
           Collapse lol, seriously? MouthofSauron 615 2 Jun 12 2013, 3:44pm
               Collapse When Pete made King Kong One Ringer 421 1 Jun 12 2013, 6:10pm
                   but we only saw smaug's snout and eye MouthofSauron 114 0 Jun 13 2013, 3:47pm
       Collapse The images are not too detailed telcontar7 774 2 Jun 12 2013, 2:09pm
           Collapse Not trying to be rude... MorgolKing 735 1 Jun 12 2013, 2:15pm
               Eyeball and nostrill telcontar7 554 0 Jun 12 2013, 3:18pm
       Collapse It was pretty obvious Skaan 753 2 Jun 12 2013, 2:12pm
           Collapse Didn't know. MorgolKing 651 1 Jun 12 2013, 2:18pm
               I'm guessing Skaan 617 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:25pm
       Slightly off-the-wall idea: a tribute to Ray Harryhausen? DwellerInDale 697 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:19pm
       Does not bother me... arithmancer 592 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:47pm
       Collapse I don't think we've seen enough... bborchar 458 3 Jun 12 2013, 4:41pm
           Collapse little better view of him deskp 430 2 Jun 12 2013, 5:35pm
               Collapse Cool MorgolKing 381 1 Jun 12 2013, 5:39pm
                   He looks flat // Erally 363 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:48pm
       Who cares? Smaug just like Gollum. xxxyyy 368 0 Jun 12 2013, 6:17pm
       liked AUJ better Brennil Caladiel 205 0 Jun 12 2013, 11:22pm
       His nostril becomes almost half when he inhales, as you can see at the very last second in the trailer... Earl 200 0 Jun 13 2013, 12:39am

  Collapse Desolation of Smaug trailer screencaps DarkJackal 723 13 Jun 12 2013, 1:52pm Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)
       great Elenorflower 299 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:15pm
       Collapse "Thang You berry Buch", DJ Bombadil 273 2 Jun 12 2013, 3:09pm
           The locations... Arannir 266 0 Jun 12 2013, 3:14pm
           We have the same wallpaper! tarasaurus 154 0 Jun 12 2013, 7:49pm
       DarkJackal... as always... grammaboodawg 233 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:10pm
     Lovely – thank you! Glorfindela 216 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:35pm
       Collapse I notice from those screencaps emre43 234 1 Jun 12 2013, 5:11pm
           It looks like a non-dwarvish sword to me... Captain Salt 184 0 Jun 12 2013, 6:29pm
       lovely, thank you so much! hobbitylass 126 0 Jun 12 2013, 9:44pm
       Cheers Dark Jackal TheSexyBeard 116 0 Jun 12 2013, 10:30pm
       Looks great...can't wait. Rostron2 84 0 Jun 13 2013, 1:24am
       Thank you! nt totoro 65 0 Jun 13 2013, 5:19am
       Fantastic! Thank you, DJ! // dernwyn 63 0 Jun 13 2013, 10:08am

  Collapse When did PJ become so obsessed with CGI over practical FX, sets, and cinematography? frodolives 852 17 Jun 12 2013, 1:47pm Jump to last post in thread (by sauget.diblosio)
       I don't get it telcontar7 543 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:02pm
       Collapse when? Elenorflower 472 2 Jun 12 2013, 2:26pm
           Collapse More Like LOTR ~ 1999 JWPlatt 434 1 Jun 12 2013, 3:03pm
               Probably an issue of cost effectiveness and control, too. Kimtc 311 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:54pm
       Collapse The emphasis on CGI in the trailer, when the CGI is so blatant, really makes it seem like WETA demo reel... Captain Salt 372 2 Jun 12 2013, 4:08pm
           Collapse I don't think that's Mirkwood frodolives 341 1 Jun 12 2013, 4:13pm
               True for the barrel ride, but it's also sunny/bright/bland Captain Salt 259 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:57pm
       Collapse There's the same level of 'green screen work' as in LOTR sycorax82 308 2 Jun 12 2013, 5:19pm
           Collapse I'm not so sure... frodolives 287 1 Jun 12 2013, 5:36pm
               Too hard to get good visuals using scale doubles of so many dwarves? hobbitylass 180 0 Jun 12 2013, 9:39pm
       Collapse Point Well Taken. Dwarvenfury 224 1 Jun 12 2013, 8:00pm
           I should clarify. Dwarvenfury 115 0 Jun 12 2013, 11:55pm
       Hodor. // macfalk 145 0 Jun 12 2013, 10:26pm
       With ROTK, in my opinion. RosieLass 167 0 Jun 12 2013, 10:41pm
       Collapse I'm completely in agreement... Thranduil05 144 1 Jun 12 2013, 11:04pm
           I agree about Azog hobbitylass 131 0 Jun 12 2013, 11:39pm
       PJ's problem has always been the same, sauget.diblosio 87 0 Jun 13 2013, 10:44am

  Collapse The "pointless hollywood blockbuster" argument GiantMushroomBear 503 6 Jun 12 2013, 1:29pm Jump to last post in thread (by KW)
       It's a very weak argument frodolives 295 0 Jun 12 2013, 1:58pm
       Collapse You answer your own question. Captain Salt 206 1 Jun 12 2013, 3:54pm
           Well... Arannir 183 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:00pm
       I reject the premise The Mitch King 141 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:55pm
       Why can't people have whatever opinion they want? RosieLass 91 0 Jun 12 2013, 10:48pm
       It's a matter of emphasis and selection KW 68 0 Jun 13 2013, 12:51pm

  Collapse Geeky observations. Mostly regarding weapons. Azaghâl 456 8 Jun 12 2013, 1:12pm Jump to last post in thread (by dormouse)
       Collapse What about the sword Gandalf is holding in the DG shot... Eleniel 250 1 Jun 12 2013, 1:45pm
           I think it is Glamdring Azaghâl 192 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:39pm
       Excellent!! :D I'll be back again, and again... THANKS! // grammaboodawg 161 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:14pm
       Collapse Armors Anubis 175 3 Jun 12 2013, 4:21pm
           Collapse Wen you talk about the Mirkwood armour..... dormouse 103 2 Jun 12 2013, 8:17pm
               Collapse they are mirkwood deskp 100 1 Jun 12 2013, 9:20pm
                   OK, thanks dormouse 84 0 Jun 12 2013, 9:57pm
       Legolas' bow... arithmancer 159 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:41pm

  Collapse Where's Bolg? BilboBagshot187 362 4 Jun 12 2013, 1:03pm Jump to last post in thread (by Thranduil05)
       Collapse I'm guessing he has a small role in DoS but is mainly in TaBA sycorax82 135 1 Jun 12 2013, 5:08pm
           Agreed tarasaurus 80 0 Jun 12 2013, 7:30pm
       Sharpening his weapons ready for the battle // dormouse 70 0 Jun 12 2013, 8:05pm
       Let's not forget about Dain... Thranduil05 53 0 Jun 12 2013, 10:41pm

  "its undoubtedly a trap" TheCoon 402 0 Jun 12 2013, 12:45pm Jump to last post in thread (by TheCoon)

  Collapse We should judge only the trailer, not the film Glum 596 28 Jun 12 2013, 12:05pm Jump to last post in thread (by FrogmortonJustice65)
       Exactly Shagrat 350 0 Jun 12 2013, 12:13pm
       Collapse smog jimmyfenn 362 3 Jun 12 2013, 12:16pm
           IMO this trailer was not particularly intended for Tolkien fans Noria 337 0 Jun 12 2013, 12:35pm
           I don't know Shagrat 300 0 Jun 12 2013, 12:47pm
           Except they actually managed to telcontar7 232 0 Jun 12 2013, 2:04pm
       Collapse The trailer did exactly what it intended to do stoutfiles 307 12 Jun 12 2013, 1:06pm
           Collapse But it isn't just The Hobbit. Escapist 293 11 Jun 12 2013, 1:13pm
               Collapse These scenes and lines weren't in the appendices stoutfiles 262 10 Jun 12 2013, 1:41pm
                   Collapse There is a whole lot in TH Escapist 252 9 Jun 12 2013, 1:48pm
                       Collapse The issue with that is... Salmacis81 177 8 Jun 12 2013, 2:52pm
                           Collapse That's not the worst of it... Eleniel 166 1 Jun 12 2013, 3:03pm
                               Yep... Salmacis81 148 0 Jun 12 2013, 3:52pm
                           Collapse Actually more of it is Tolkien then you'd think-but belonging to books they have no legal right to use malickfan 170 5 Jun 12 2013, 3:09pm
                               Collapse Some of it, yes, but a very different version than what was written... Salmacis81 156 3 Jun 12 2013, 3:48pm
                                   Collapse I wonder if PJ and co did have acess to other materials...would the film really be that diferent? malickfan 144 2 Jun 12 2013, 3:50pm
                                       Collapse Doubtful... Salmacis81 140 1 Jun 12 2013, 3:53pm
                                           Well in all honesty PJ and Co aren't harcore Tolkien fans, and a 52 year old man can hardly be expected to have the same resonance with the book as a ten year old malickfan 141 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:11pm
                               Richard Armitage arithmancer 120 0 Jun 12 2013, 4:49pm
       Collapse The problem I have... frodolives 257 8 Jun 12 2013, 1:50pm
           Collapse PJ has stated that bungobaggins 239 7 Jun 12 2013, 2:09pm
               Collapse Given the lower box office tallies for AUJ... frodolives 231 6 Jun 12 2013, 2:13pm
                   Collapse Well... bungobaggins 219 4 Jun 12 2013, 2:18pm
                       Collapse script jimmyfenn 197 3 Jun 12 2013, 2:26pm
                           Collapse One of my biggest hang ups is the clunky dialogue bungobaggins 202 2 Jun 12 2013, 2:30pm
                               Collapse You know who should have done the dialog? frodolives 170 1 Jun 12 2013, 3:09pm
                                   Except.... Silverlode 64 0 Jun 12 2013, 8:01pm
                   And why is that??? MasterOrc 96 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:19pm
       I agree with most of this post. FrogmortonJustice65 54 0 Jun 12 2013, 9:51pm

  Collapse Thorin loses the key (scene from trailer)? FaramirAndEowynMorningStar 509 6 Jun 12 2013, 11:58am Jump to last post in thread (by emre43)
       Collapse I think it is... Arannir 273 3 Jun 12 2013, 12:03pm
           Collapse I believe it is the laces from the boot. FaramirAndEowynMorningStar 238 2 Jun 12 2013, 12:08pm
               Collapse It's the key DanielLB 266 1 Jun 12 2013, 12:12pm
                   That sounds pretty logical to me, Daniel.// FaramirAndEowynMorningStar 218 0 Jun 12 2013, 12:16pm
       Yep! MomoftheShire 220 0 Jun 12 2013, 12:25pm
       Definitely the key emre43 109 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:02pm

  Collapse Are these the same ? Erally 455 7 Jun 12 2013, 11:22am Jump to last post in thread (by The Mitch King)
       Collapse Not the same because Lindele 241 4 Jun 12 2013, 11:58am
           Collapse It is Skaan 221 1 Jun 12 2013, 11:59am
               I have Lindele 187 0 Jun 12 2013, 12:32pm
           It is CathrineB 185 0 Jun 12 2013, 12:33pm
           LOL Who do you think I am ? // Erally 151 0 Jun 12 2013, 12:57pm
       But then why hasn't he turned to stone? dave_lf 149 0 Jun 12 2013, 1:10pm
       it wont be too different The Mitch King 65 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:42pm

  The importance of Beorn Kili Son of Dis 279 0 Jun 12 2013, 10:06am Jump to last post in thread (by Kili Son of Dis)

  Collapse So whose fault are the Matrix elves? WETA or Terry Notary? TheHutt 701 8 Jun 12 2013, 9:51am Jump to last post in thread (by Earl)
       They gotta Joe20 399 0 Jun 12 2013, 9:58am
       Collapse Terry Notary Shagrat 396 3 Jun 12 2013, 10:05am
           Collapse The people who count seem to find his contributions quite significant. Lissuin 309 2 Jun 12 2013, 11:12am
               Collapse Yes Shagrat 275 1 Jun 12 2013, 11:41am
                   Yes. Silverlode 134 0 Jun 12 2013, 5:24pm
       Whose Fault? Nonsense! The Grey Elf 231 0 Jun 12 2013, 12:52pm
       I liked the way they moved telcontar7 193 0 Jun 12 2013, 1:48pm
       I actually like the way the Elves about the trees as if they're leaves... Earl 85 0 Jun 13 2013, 12:46am
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