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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Collapse Could this movie turn out to be waaaay diferent of what we have seen in cinemas? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1137 15 Sat, 4:56pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eruvandi)
       I hope so NManfredi 1050 0 Sat, 5:12pm
       Collapse I'm sure it will, to a certain extent Eruvandi 1015 6 Sat, 5:38pm
           Collapse IMO profit is perfectly OK! Avandel 950 5 Sat, 6:17pm
               Collapse Hi Avandel :) Eruvandi 809 4 Sat, 7:52pm
                   Collapse *Waves happily at Eruvandi* (: Avandel 695 3 Sat, 10:17pm
                       Collapse Reply (I can't seem to think up any good subject lines today! *facepalm*) Eruvandi 315 2 Mon, 12:44am
                           Collapse Agree about the 3d!...And.... Avandel 264 1 Mon, 6:58am
                               Whirly things Eruvandi 66 0 Tue, 5:44pm
       Could be... Dipling 932 0 Sat, 6:24pm
       That is... CathrineB 920 0 Sat, 6:28pm
       Collapse Yes Avandel 914 2 Sat, 6:32pm
           Collapse At least some of this... Otaku-sempai 882 1 Sat, 7:10pm
               My thoughts exactly NManfredi 827 0 Sat, 7:36pm
       maybe if they... Gandalf the Green 486 0 Sun, 10:44am
       I hope so, as repeated viewings have led to a decline in enthusiasm. Eruonen 190 0 Mon, 4:00pm

  Collapse Thorin's funeral and Padme's funeral (Star Wars) DainPig 637 10 Sat, 3:21pm Jump to last post in thread (by swordwhale)
       Collapse Bit late to worry about this now, isn't it.... dormouse 573 1 Sat, 3:53pm
           Or even worse Voronwë_the_Faithful 514 0 Sat, 4:55pm
       Collapse Don't forget Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf 487 5 Sat, 5:26pm
           Yes DainPig 483 0 Sat, 5:30pm
           Collapse Dain's pig Mooseboy018 476 1 Sat, 5:36pm
               No tome droidsocket 203 0 Sun, 4:08pm
           Collapse Yeah, but we don't care bout them... QuackingTroll 477 1 Sat, 5:37pm
               "good riddance", they all said Gandalf the Green 256 0 Sun, 10:41am
       Do you mean... Withywindle 210 0 Sun, 3:21pm
       now... swordwhale 70 0 Tue, 1:19am

  Collapse EE theater release before BR/DVD release lionoferebor 519 5 Sat, 3:11pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse I don't know NManfredi 397 1 Sat, 5:19pm
           Real confidence on PJ's part? Avandel 313 0 Sat, 6:51pm
       Action Mooseboy018 368 0 Sat, 5:34pm
       Probably cause it's the last one Eldorion 346 0 Sat, 6:09pm
       Mostly Warners, I expect. Otaku-sempai 293 0 Sat, 7:13pm

Collapse Warner Bros cut 10 minutes off of the BOTFA Extended Edition... Gandalf the Green 1663 35 Sat, 1:55pm Jump to last post in thread (by Spriggan)
       Collapse Where Olorin2607 1548 9 Sat, 1:58pm
           Collapse Here is the likely Source DarkHunter 946 8 Sat, 9:03pm
               Collapse I don't know how legit that article is - Hanzkaz 913 7 Sat, 9:21pm
                   Collapse Especially considering the trailer... QuackingTroll 903 2 Sat, 9:27pm
                       Well, I'm glad New Line were the ones' making Lord of the Rings - Hanzkaz 863 0 Sat, 9:47pm
                       FA Gandalf the Green 531 0 Sun, 10:34am
                   Collapse Article?? DjU 810 3 Sat, 10:47pm
                       Thank you. Mooseboy018 752 0 Sun, 12:10am
                       Agreed, and it bears repeating from the other thread... Eldorion 748 0 Sun, 12:14am
                       I guess people will suspect the 'worst' - Hanzkaz 174 0 Sun, 6:57pm
       Collapse Is it true? Elanor of Rohan 1549 9 Sat, 2:00pm
           Collapse No. Gandalf the Green 311 8 Sun, 10:46am
               Collapse I think it's nonsense. // dormouse 267 3 Sun, 1:20pm
                   Collapse No it isn't Voronwë_the_Faithful 266 2 Sun, 1:34pm
                       True // dormouse 196 0 Sun, 6:07pm
                       Lol Gandalf the Green 121 0 Mon, 7:18am
               Collapse I know for a fact that it isn't true Spriggan 255 2 Sun, 2:12pm
                   Collapse Y Gandalf the Green 115 1 Mon, 7:46am
                       Why not? Spriggan 98 0 Mon, 9:21am
               Possible or fact? Mooseboy018 219 0 Sun, 4:56pm
       Collapse Why would they do that? QuackingTroll 1512 4 Sat, 2:23pm
           Why? Shagrat 1469 0 Sat, 2:39pm
           Collapse I imagine the only reason the EE might be shorter than it might have been - Hanzkaz 1162 1 Sat, 5:48pm
               Wondered about that myself Eruvandi 1146 0 Sat, 5:54pm
           no Gandalf the Green 526 0 Sun, 10:37am
       tut tut balbo biggins 1441 0 Sat, 2:48pm
       Is there a source? lionoferebor 1426 0 Sat, 2:55pm
       Collapse What...? Mooseboy018 1386 1 Sat, 3:19pm
           A wizard is never late, nor is he early Gandalf the Green 310 0 Sun, 10:42am
       Evidence? dormouse 1340 0 Sat, 3:50pm
       I doubt it. Otaku-sempai 1051 0 Sat, 7:16pm
       That's not even a speculation... TheHutt 841 0 Sat, 10:17pm
       Collapse Why is everyone Lindele 672 1 Sun, 3:53am
           Insanely ridiculous is my specialty Gandalf the Green 540 0 Sun, 10:30am
       PJ & team know how to round out ee's & make them flow squiggle 556 0 Sun, 10:10am

  Collapse Blood Smaug the iron 615 12 Sat, 10:18am Jump to last post in thread (by QuackingTroll)
       Collapse True NManfredi 535 3 Sat, 11:19am
           Collapse Agree! Avandel 358 2 Sat, 4:48pm
               Collapse Well said! NManfredi 343 1 Sat, 5:03pm
                   Thank you and agree because Avandel 308 0 Sat, 5:58pm
       Collapse Blood and Gore Otaku-sempai 277 7 Sat, 7:20pm
           Collapse I have my doubts NManfredi 254 6 Sat, 8:00pm
               Collapse Alfrid Otaku-sempai 244 5 Sat, 8:24pm
                   It makes sense NManfredi 227 0 Sat, 9:41pm
                   Collapse Head-choppings... Eleniel 214 3 Sat, 10:03pm
                       Collapse It don´t look like it Smaug the iron 212 1 Sat, 10:07pm
                           It's still possible... QuackingTroll 208 0 Sat, 10:16pm
                       That would be a blast! NManfredi 209 0 Sat, 10:10pm

  Moved: BOTFA trailer inspired by ROTK trailer tiamy - - Sat, 2:58am Jump to last post in thread (by tiamy)

  Moved: BOTFA Soundtrack Custom Cover Using UK EE Cover Faleel - - Sat, 12:17am Jump to last post in thread (by Faleel)

  Collapse Possible homage to the 1987 LOTR Movie in the Extended Edition? Hobbity Hobbit 522 1 Fri, 8:21pm Jump to last post in thread (by DainPig)
       You mean DainPig 454 0 Fri, 9:04pm

  Collapse toys Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 520 2 Aug 27, 9:38pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eldorion)
       Bofur's toys DainPig 493 0 Aug 27, 9:43pm
       Cool? Yes. Fitting? I'm not sure Eldorion 305 0 Aug 28, 5:28am

  Collapse A troll in the... frozen river? DainPig 879 2 Aug 27, 8:16pm Jump to last post in thread (by Mooseboy018)
       Collapse Cut to Beorn right after this? beorn58 446 1 Fri, 12:23pm
           Hmmm Mooseboy018 322 0 Fri, 4:07pm

  Collapse The hobbit Battle of the Five Armies won 5 ONLINE WHALE AWARDS!!!!!!!!!!! Smaug the iron 921 14 Aug 27, 7:16pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eruvandi)
     That's great DainPig 849 0 Aug 27, 7:23pm
       Howard Shore DainPig 763 0 Aug 27, 8:24pm
       Pleased for RA Glorfindela 651 0 Aug 27, 10:49pm
       Collapse Ok But shadowdog 597 3 Aug 28, 2:04am
           Collapse From their YouTube channel description Eldorion 526 2 Aug 28, 5:24am
             Collapse I see… Glorfindela 453 1 Fri, 9:31am
                   The hunky dwarves idea worked! // Eldorion 332 0 Fri, 2:48pm
       Yay! Kim 583 0 Aug 28, 2:36am
       Here is a new link Smaug the iron 530 0 Aug 28, 5:18am
       Collapse Well, I'm pleased that whales have such good taste... dormouse 386 2 Fri, 1:32pm
           Collapse Apparently... Susan 269 1 Fri, 5:16pm
               Yes thats right Smaug the iron 263 0 Fri, 5:21pm
       I agree with all except... Farficom 177 0 Sat, 4:14am
     Yay! // Eruvandi 84 0 Sat, 5:57pm

  Collapse Confirmed Scenes That Were Never Shown (or Won't Be) AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 1488 36 Aug 27, 7:11pm Jump to last post in thread (by Elizabeth)
       Collapse funeral DainPig 1363 5 Aug 27, 7:25pm
           Collapse I Hope That One Makes It AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 1347 4 Aug 27, 7:28pm
               Collapse That will be in it. Mooseboy018 1324 3 Aug 27, 7:42pm
                   Collapse Never heard about these before DainPig 1269 2 Aug 27, 8:02pm
                       Collapse Bilbo was looking at the shire from Bag End Smaug the iron 1245 1 Aug 27, 8:13pm
                           oh DainPig 1224 0 Aug 27, 8:23pm
       "...Those that survived and those that did not..." QuackingTroll 1232 0 Aug 27, 8:19pm
       Collapse William Kircher... TheHutt 1204 24 Aug 27, 8:36pm
           Would be awesome to see some khuzdul insults by Bifur! DainPig 1180 0 Aug 27, 8:40pm
           toy maker Mooseboy018 1134 0 Aug 27, 9:00pm
           Collapse Ughh... Dcole4 1091 21 Aug 27, 9:22pm
             Yes DainPig 1047 0 Aug 27, 9:49pm
               Collapse 'Lean theatrical experience' Glorfindela 987 19 Aug 27, 10:43pm
                   Collapse There 1924 894 1 Aug 28, 1:12am
                       Azog is in the barrel chase DainPig 866 0 Aug 28, 1:39am
                   Collapse Yes, I agree. Cillendor 574 16 Fri, 3:10pm
                       Collapse Considering the number of other LOTR references Eldorion 538 14 Fri, 3:28pm
                           Collapse What lines from LOTR was repeated Smaug the iron 517 12 Fri, 3:36pm
                               Collapse A couple others come to mind offhand Eldorion 488 11 Fri, 4:06pm
                                   Collapse Those are terrible examples, I think I might make a better list... QuackingTroll 459 1 Fri, 4:36pm
                                       I think Smaug the iron 286 0 Fri, 5:02pm
                                   Collapse Some of this don´t evan sound the same. Smaug the iron 456 1 Fri, 4:38pm
                                       That's why I said "varying degrees"... Eldorion 297 0 Fri, 4:53pm
                                   Collapse That whole "Age of the Orc" line always cracks me up... Salmacis81 239 6 Fri, 8:45pm
                                       Collapse you are right about they are slaves DainPig 229 5 Fri, 9:20pm
                                           Collapse I just cannot picture Sauron referring to his dominion over Middle-earth as... Salmacis81 223 4 Fri, 9:31pm
                                               Collapse Agree. I think Gothmog saying it was fine, but not Sauron // QuackingTroll 216 3 Fri, 9:39pm
                                                   Collapse One could imagine Sauron perhaps lying to his or cosh servants Eldorion 195 2 Fri, 10:50pm
                                                       Collapse Maybe if he were giving a pep rally to his Orc hordes... Salmacis81 184 1 Fri, 11:08pm
                                                           I don't think he would say that either Eldorion 166 0 Sat, 12:20am
                           I would say... droidsocket 492 0 Fri, 4:00pm
                       They listened to the market. Elizabeth 148 0 Sat, 2:52am
       Collapse Can We Stay on Topic? AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 457 3 Fri, 4:36pm
           Collapse The dwarves meet Thranduil... QuackingTroll 454 1 Fri, 4:46pm
               Thranduil Wasserwaldnymphe 276 0 Fri, 5:21pm
           Well Smaug the iron 302 0 Fri, 4:48pm

  Collapse TH BOTFA SEE: the UK cover with the symbol! TheHutt 1466 35 Aug 27, 5:35am Jump to last post in thread (by Glorfindela)
       Collapse Cool! Avandel 1360 1 Aug 27, 5:43am
           I think... TheHutt 1353 0 Aug 27, 5:47am
       Collapse So jealous. Mooseboy018 1342 11 Aug 27, 6:02am
           Collapse I have found myself... TheHutt 1311 9 Aug 27, 6:34am
               Collapse That's beautiful lurtz2010 1255 8 Aug 27, 7:15am
                   Collapse You won't believe it... TheHutt 1177 5 Aug 27, 8:18am
                       Collapse Was it you Hutt that got annoyed? QuackingTroll 896 4 Aug 27, 12:07pm
                           Collapse I'm not sure I was annoyed by the extra 1mm... TheHutt 891 3 Aug 27, 12:08pm
                               Collapse I just hunted it down, because it makes me laugh... QuackingTroll 883 2 Aug 27, 12:15pm
                                   Collapse Why I will! TheHutt 842 1 Aug 27, 12:47pm
                                     Yes, please and thank you in advance! Glorfindela 234 0 Aug 27, 10:34pm
                   Collapse Gosh! It drives me completely crazy too Earl 1083 1 Aug 27, 9:37am
                       It's not even OCD, just goddam lazy design and attention to detail. // adt100 944 0 Aug 27, 11:32am
           I know right... lionoferebor 922 0 Aug 27, 11:48am
       And it will be mine, Precious... Eleniel 1309 0 Aug 27, 6:27am
       i...love....it Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1237 0 Aug 27, 7:29am
       Hooray! dormouse 1144 0 Aug 27, 8:37am
       I absolutely it! Earl 1090 0 Aug 27, 9:35am
       Yes, nice Glorfindela 1057 0 Aug 27, 9:51am
       Now that's what I'm talking about! GORGEOUS cover! adt100 960 0 Aug 27, 11:28am
       No Legolas or Tauriel? QuackingTroll 898 0 Aug 27, 12:05pm
       Collapse Well I like it Kilidoescartwheels 786 12 Aug 27, 1:50pm
           Collapse Yes. Arannir 773 11 Aug 27, 1:57pm
               Collapse No no, none are hero swords! QuackingTroll 765 10 Aug 27, 2:02pm
                   Collapse Yeah, I edited my post... Arannir 756 4 Aug 27, 2:04pm
                       Collapse Actually I'm not sure... QuackingTroll 404 3 Aug 27, 2:11pm
                           Collapse I am pretty sure... Arannir 399 2 Aug 27, 2:13pm
                               Collapse It's similar to this... QuackingTroll 397 1 Aug 27, 2:20pm
                                   The BOFA soundtrack CDs (standard edition) also have a similar motif Earl 367 0 Aug 27, 3:10pm
                   Collapse HA! Kilidoescartwheels 207 1 Aug 28, 1:27am
                       I'm still scratching my head... QuackingTroll 204 0 Aug 28, 1:35am
                   Collapse Dain's army arithmancer 201 1 Aug 28, 1:37am
                       Yeah, I've noticed that... QuackingTroll 199 0 Aug 28, 1:53am
                   Those are swords? Glorfindela 84 0 Fri, 11:10pm
       Gorgeous Eldorion 341 0 Aug 27, 3:32pm

  Collapse Thorin, Kili, and the Elves... lionoferebor 1078 37 Aug 27, 5:19am Jump to last post in thread (by lionoferebor)
     Collapse unfortunately Avandel 974 34 Aug 27, 6:41am
           Collapse Conversations that never happened. Arannir 895 11 Aug 27, 9:42am
               Collapse Well Smaug the iron 257 1 Fri, 8:28am
                   Yes, I think you're absolutely right.... dormouse 217 0 Fri, 1:27pm
               Collapse Even Thorin looked surprised lionoferebor 147 8 Sat, 6:57am
                   Collapse Bilbo sees them coming from affar Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 132 7 Sat, 8:35am
                       Collapse Well yes, lionoferebor 114 6 Sat, 10:55am
                           yes I get that Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 111 0 Sat, 10:56am
                           Collapse Oddities...... Avandel 80 4 Sat, 5:20pm
                               Collapse Thorin may not have allowed it. Cirashala 66 3 Sat, 7:11pm
                                   Collapse True enough IMO Avandel 52 1 Sat, 8:00pm
                                       Fast-forward dragon sickness? Ilmatar 45 0 Sat, 9:21pm
                                   The plummet lionoferebor 30 0 Sun, 3:39am
           Collapse I definitely missed those conversations in these films Earl 876 11 Aug 27, 10:00am
               Agreed CathrineB 863 0 Aug 27, 10:13am
               Collapse Maybe they went..... dormouse 818 9 Aug 27, 11:42am
                   Collapse Hilda lionoferebor 770 3 Aug 27, 12:56pm
                       Collapse Hilda Smaug the iron 755 2 Aug 27, 1:11pm
                           Speaking of her... Arannir 750 0 Aug 27, 1:14pm
                           Thank you lionoferebor 738 0 Aug 27, 1:19pm
                   Collapse I think that's the problem... Earl 767 3 Aug 27, 1:01pm
                       Collapse Agreed and 100% signed. Arannir 758 1 Aug 27, 1:07pm
                           Let's hope the coming years bring us some Hobbit soundtrack goodies Earl 745 0 Aug 27, 1:16pm
                       You had to look before.... dormouse 730 0 Aug 27, 1:23pm
                   not turned on IMO - HUNGRY, rather.... Avandel 647 0 Aug 27, 3:11pm
           Collapse They were filmed... lionoferebor 752 9 Aug 27, 1:15pm
               Collapse Wait... Dcole4 712 4 Aug 27, 1:48pm
                   Collapse There is still hope... lionoferebor 514 3 Aug 27, 5:22pm
                       Collapse Wow. Mooseboy018 461 2 Aug 27, 6:32pm
                           Seriously. Dcole4 444 0 Aug 27, 6:49pm
                           *meh* Avandel 294 0 Aug 28, 12:18am
               Collapse glad you understand! Avandel 629 3 Aug 27, 3:23pm
                   It is strange that Fili is quiet on the matter Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf 596 0 Aug 27, 3:50pm
                   I've said this before, but... Kilidoescartwheels 565 0 Aug 27, 4:25pm
                   Avandel... lionoferebor 526 0 Aug 27, 5:08pm
       Collapse In response to the OP Susan 421 1 Aug 27, 6:59pm
           I understand what you're saying... lionoferebor 158 0 Sat, 6:43am

  Collapse All 9 armoured Nazgul Designs? QueenCirce 1220 60 Aug 27, 2:25am Jump to last post in thread (by Spriggan)
       Hopefully in the EE bonus features // QuackingTroll 1119 0 Aug 27, 2:27am
       Collapse The Weta Chronicles Book... Pandallo 1054 1 Aug 27, 4:13am
           Wow excellent thank you! QueenCirce 1044 0 Aug 27, 4:26am
       Six of nine... TheHutt 1016 0 Aug 27, 5:10am
       Trying to speak more about what I LIKE about these movies... Arannir 917 0 Aug 27, 8:06am
       Collapse They are one of the aspects of the film that really bug me actually! adt100 806 52 Aug 27, 11:45am
           Collapse aGREED! Dcole4 604 51 Aug 27, 7:03pm
               Collapse Would you say the Nazgul are consistent beings Spriggan 551 49 Aug 27, 9:12pm
                   Collapse Not sure I follow! Bishop 460 48 Fri, 9:43am
                       Collapse Oh I would say they are hugely inconsistent and mysterious beings Spriggan 450 47 Fri, 10:21am
                           Collapse But if it's the films we're looking at Bishop 442 46 Fri, 10:52am
                               Don't know what Spriggan thinks, but for me there is a kind of logic to it.... dormouse 411 0 Fri, 1:22pm
                               Collapse I think that's my argument. Spriggan 328 44 Fri, 5:54pm
                                   Collapse What is inconsistent in the books?? QuackingTroll 326 6 Fri, 6:04pm
                                       Was wondering that myself... Salmacis81 288 0 Fri, 8:36pm
                                       Collapse Oh their appearances are the least of their inconsistencies but Spriggan 199 4 Sat, 3:50pm
                                           Collapse Any specific examples? QuackingTroll 197 3 Sat, 7:19pm
                                               Collapse They are all specific examples. Spriggan 170 2 Sun, 12:06am
                                                   Collapse Those aren't examples, they're questions... QuackingTroll 167 1 Sun, 12:10am
                                                       Just one example Spriggan 166 0 Sun, 12:29am
                                   Collapse It's not "creature rules" Bishop 285 36 Fri, 8:45pm
                                       Collapse The Ring does exactly that. Spriggan 194 35 Sat, 3:55pm
                                           Collapse No, it doesn't Bishop 178 34 Sat, 4:48pm
                                               Collapse Ha - I took those to be examples. Spriggan 166 33 Sat, 4:56pm
                                                   Collapse oh, really? Bishop 141 32 Sat, 6:21pm
                                                       Collapse Just for a change, Spriggan 206 31 Sat, 6:36pm
                                                           Collapse I'm totally game for this amazing challenge Bishop 189 25 Sat, 8:07pm
                                                               Collapse ...Grimbold? // QuackingTroll 183 1 Sat, 8:10pm
                                                                   Close! Bishop 177 0 Sat, 9:09pm
                                                               Collapse Odd that you don't seem able to come up with anything. Spriggan 171 22 Sun, 12:08am
                                                                   Collapse You're the one who'is dodging Bishop 156 21 Sun, 1:05am
                                                                       Collapse Which questions, sorry? Spriggan 136 20 Sun, 11:04am
                                                                           Collapse My question was: Bishop 108 19 Sun, 4:57pm
                                                                               Collapse I'm afraid I can't think of any character Spriggan 102 18 Sun, 8:33pm
  Collapse Gollum doesn't rhyme with solemn? Bishop 90 17 Sun, 11:13pm
       Collapse Not unless you are pronouncing one in none standard English somehow. Spriggan 64 16 Mon, 9:17am
           Collapse Perhaps they don't in "standard spriggan" Bishop 58 15 Mon, 11:56am
               Collapse Have a go at looking it up. Spriggan 46 14 Mon, 5:18pm
                   Collapse What, like this? Bishop 42 13 Mon, 5:30pm
                       Collapse If it were me I'd go for phonetics... Spriggan 30 12 Mon, 7:29pm
                           Collapse Or we could go with Sir Ian McKellen and Elijah Wood! Bishop 26 11 Mon, 8:00pm
                               Collapse Phonetics will give you good evidence. Spriggan 63 10 Mon, 8:21pm
                                   Collapse Sprigganetics Bishop 63 9 Mon, 8:25pm
                                       Collapse Semantics to the point of irrelevance QuackingTroll 53 8 Mon, 9:08pm
                                           It's all good Bishop 53 0 Mon, 9:11pm
                                           Collapse That's not semantics, by the way. Spriggan 48 6 Mon, 9:20pm
                                               lol Bishop 40 0 Mon, 9:38pm
                                               Collapse I hope that's a joke // QuackingTroll 37 3 Mon, 9:42pm
                                                   Collapse Pronunciation isn't a matter of semantics Spriggan 36 2 Mon, 9:45pm
                                                       Collapse Whether one word rhymes with another is semantics... QuackingTroll 42 1 Mon, 9:46pm
                                                           Eh? Only if we were talking about the meaning of the word rhyme. Spriggan 27 0 Mon, 10:12pm
                                               ..... Bishop 34 0 Mon, 10:04pm
                                                           Collapse What is the relevance of your question? QuackingTroll 156 4 Sun, 1:51am
                                                               Collapse Well that's a start and immediately we see the inconsistencies. Spriggan 131 3 Sun, 11:26am
                                                                   Collapse But none of these are inconsistent...? QuackingTroll 103 2 Sun, 10:57pm
                                                                       Great post Bishop 75 0 Mon, 3:36am
                                                                       You are answering a different question. Spriggan 64 0 Mon, 9:12am
             their style is strategy Wasserwaldnymphe 345 0 Fri, 5:13pm
       Collapse I agree with a couple posters here Bishop 626 1 Aug 27, 6:35pm
           About this issue NManfredi 159 0 Sat, 4:58pm
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