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  Expand entire thread Sticky: General notice re book discussions and the use of copyrighted materials Ataahua 119293 1 Jun 20 2007, 12:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by Wynnie)

  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to the Reading Room (-->Including links to old RR discussions!) Altaira 115085 0 Dec 28 2006, 3:11am Jump to last post in thread (by AltairaGuest)

Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 107855 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:44pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

  Expand entire thread Silmarilion Discussion: Chapter 16 -- "Of Maeglin" Maciliel 65555 380 Jun 16 2013, 10:27am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)

  Expand entire thread Silmarillion Discussion, Chapter 19: Of Beren and Luthien: Love, etc. CuriousG 77223 343 Jul 8 2013, 8:00pm Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)

  Expand entire thread LOTR Unofficial Read Through - The Two Towers Eruonen 69376 322 Jul 24 2017, 8:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)

  Expand entire thread The Fellowship of the Ring Discussion, Chapter Two: The Shadow of the Past Kim 50056 226 Dec 22 2014, 1:11am Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)

  Expand entire thread 'The Fellowship of the Ring' Discussion, Chapter One: A Long-Expected Party Rembrethil 53233 186 Dec 17 2014, 2:33pm Jump to last post in thread (by Rembrethil)

  Expand entire thread The Return of the King - Unofficial read through Eruonen 68624 183 Aug 14 2017, 5:26pm Jump to last post in thread (by sador)

  Expand entire thread The Numenorean Kingdoms, part XI - bridge-film material? sador 51397 182 Feb 8 2009, 9:47pm Jump to last post in thread (by simplyaven)

  Expand entire thread Reading Room Culture Dreamdeer 44988 177 Mar 19 2009, 9:38pm Jump to last post in thread (by Idril Celebrindal)

  Expand entire thread Return of the King Part II - the unofficial read through - Book VI onward Eruonen 34535 173 Sep 10 2017, 9:08pm Jump to last post in thread (by sador)

  Collapse The Tale of Years (Appendix B): Part I – The 2nd Age, 1 -1600 Morthoron 7881 160 Feb 23 2009, 6:42am Jump to last post in thread (by Eowyn of Penns Woods)
       Collapse My thoughts Dreamdeer 7053 8 Feb 23 2009, 5:04pm
           Collapse Drawing the line squire 7025 4 Feb 23 2009, 10:34pm
               Collapse Suddenly *I'm* the one looking for errors? Dreamdeer 7006 3 Feb 24 2009, 3:48pm
                   Collapse I have no desire to be creamed like the Spanish, or anyone else. squire 2558 2 Feb 25 2009, 12:24am
                       Mordor Tolkien Forever 2532 0 Feb 25 2009, 12:42am
                       Excellent points! Dreamdeer 2535 0 Feb 25 2009, 12:47am
           Collapse real world boxy mountains hanne 6964 2 Feb 24 2009, 4:17pm
               I'm always a bit surprised Aunt Dora Baggins 2495 0 Feb 25 2009, 5:36pm
               The best I could come up with Eowyn of Penns Woods 3504 0 Mar 15 2009, 9:15pm
       "...any historical value it may possess must always be of secondary importance." Darkstone 7045 0 Feb 23 2009, 6:24pm
       ANOTHR Wiped Out Post! Tolkien Forever 7029 0 Feb 23 2009, 7:51pm
       Collapse Thoughts. Curious 7031 147 Feb 23 2009, 10:42pm
           Collapse Hey, darken down! Stop having fun! Take this more seriously! squire 7031 1 Feb 23 2009, 11:01pm
               Perhaps I am sensitive about the Reading Room's Curious 7025 0 Feb 24 2009, 1:49am
           Collapse In addition... Morthoron 7003 17 Feb 24 2009, 1:32am
               Collapse Was Annatar pretending to be an elf? Curious 7004 8 Feb 24 2009, 6:32am
                   Collapse What 'Miscellaneous Spirits'? Tolkien Forever 6977 7 Feb 24 2009, 2:05pm
                       Collapse It's just a theory. Curious 6981 6 Feb 24 2009, 3:24pm
                           Collapse Never Heard That Tolkien Forever 6933 2 Feb 24 2009, 8:01pm
                               Collapse Check Curious 2506 1 Feb 25 2009, 7:53am
                                   Door Number Three Tolkien Forever 2489 0 Feb 25 2009, 2:07pm
                           Collapse This is one of the most inexplicable editing decisions in the published Silmarillion Voronwë_the_Faithful 2552 2 Feb 24 2009, 8:05pm
                               Wouldn't It Be Great Tolkien Forever 2545 0 Feb 24 2009, 8:37pm
                               Very interesting!// Curious 2531 0 Feb 24 2009, 9:51pm
               Collapse Not so implausible to me Dreamdeer 6961 7 Feb 24 2009, 4:02pm
                   Collapse Hmmmm.... Morthoron 2519 6 Feb 25 2009, 2:06am
                       Collapse Difficult Dreamdeer 2512 5 Feb 25 2009, 4:04am
                           Collapse Tolkien was powerfully conflicted squire 2513 4 Feb 25 2009, 4:32am
                               Collapse Ah, but... Dreamdeer 2488 3 Feb 25 2009, 3:13pm
                                   Collapse Nonetheless.... Morthoron 2476 2 Feb 25 2009, 3:53pm
                                       Still seems plausible to me... Dreamdeer 2499 0 Feb 25 2009, 4:20pm
                                       Why Not? Tolkien Forever 2478 0 Feb 25 2009, 5:02pm
           Collapse Some Thoughts About Some of Your Thoughts Voronwë_the_Faithful 7004 2 Feb 24 2009, 4:34am
               The broader legendarium is a first class mess. Not the work of a niggling and perfectionist writer. squire 7014 0 Feb 24 2009, 5:34am
               I am not "looking at the broader Curious 6991 0 Feb 24 2009, 6:25am
           Collapse I don't get it. FarFromHome 6998 123 Feb 24 2009, 8:51am
               Collapse Tolkien in his later years was not the literary equivalent of a dog chasing his tail Voronwë_the_Faithful 6981 15 Feb 24 2009, 2:27pm
                   Collapse Morgoth's Ring is my favorite book in the HoME series, Curious 2505 9 Feb 25 2009, 2:38pm
                       Collapse Actually, he never comtemplated eliminating the Two Trees Voronwë_the_Faithful 2509 8 Feb 25 2009, 3:32pm
                           Collapse Perhaps the HoME stories you love Curious 2482 7 Feb 25 2009, 6:18pm
                               Quite true Voronwë_the_Faithful 2471 0 Feb 25 2009, 6:30pm
                               Collapse ?????? Tolkien Forever 2325 3 Feb 26 2009, 12:54am
                                   Collapse We discussed this recently. Curious 2346 2 Feb 26 2009, 2:04am
                                       Oh Boy.... Tolkien Forever 2322 0 Feb 26 2009, 4:15am
                                       Enough.... Tolkien Forever 2317 0 Feb 26 2009, 4:28am
                               Collapse Isn't calling an early 20th century English author "classist"... squire 2336 1 Feb 26 2009, 1:13am
                                   Well, the emphasis of Curious 2313 0 Feb 26 2009, 1:56am
                   Collapse Where would I find each of these stories? Curious 2478 4 Feb 25 2009, 6:29pm
                       Collapse "The Wanderings of Húrin" is in HoMe XI. N.E. Brigand 2469 2 Feb 25 2009, 7:56pm
                           Thanks! I'm not Curious 2457 0 Feb 25 2009, 8:16pm
                           Among other unique features, that story has a *hero lawyer* and a trial scene! FYI // squire 2458 0 Feb 25 2009, 10:34pm
                       Sorry for the delay Voronwë_the_Faithful 2452 0 Feb 25 2009, 11:06pm
               Collapse I should stop talking about serious / not serious. And I didn't say "mere." Curious 6995 106 Feb 24 2009, 3:02pm
                   Collapse "Mere" was probably my addition, I agree. FarFromHome 6959 105 Feb 24 2009, 3:36pm
                       Collapse Letter #160, as Curious 6949 104 Feb 24 2009, 6:49pm
                           Collapse Oh, *that* game... FarFromHome 2292 103 Feb 26 2009, 10:20am
                               Collapse Not that real history works that way squire 2306 1 Feb 26 2009, 11:24am
                                   Agreed. FarFromHome 2291 0 Feb 26 2009, 12:00pm
                               Collapse And that's why I have bigger issues with you Curious 2300 100 Feb 26 2009, 12:23pm
                                   Collapse Not at all. FarFromHome 2300 67 Feb 26 2009, 1:05pm
                                       Collapse I have a bias Curious 2297 66 Feb 26 2009, 5:10pm
                                           Collapse Well I'm glad... FarFromHome 2279 65 Feb 26 2009, 6:18pm
                                               Collapse What, exactly, have you noticed? Curious 2289 64 Feb 26 2009, 7:40pm
                                                   Collapse That's difficult to answer. FarFromHome 2123 63 Feb 26 2009, 10:33pm
                                                       Collapse In the films, do we really witness those events? N.E. Brigand 2125 1 Feb 26 2009, 10:38pm
                                                           We witness them FarFromHome 2058 0 Mar 1 2009, 6:26pm
                                                       Collapse Yes, the book is hobbitcentric. Curious 2151 60 Feb 26 2009, 11:26pm
                                                           Collapse Sounds good to me. FarFromHome 2113 59 Mar 1 2009, 7:05pm
                                                               Collapse Gandalf, Gimli and Legolas, the hosts of Mordor. N.E. Brigand 2104 51 Mar 1 2009, 7:31pm
                                                                   Collapse Myth of idealized heroes Dreamdeer 2100 50 Mar 2 2009, 12:30am
                                                                       Collapse They may have foibles, but have any of them Curious 2085 49 Mar 2 2009, 3:29pm
                                                                           Collapse Sin is relative Dreamdeer 2096 45 Mar 2 2009, 3:52pm
                                                                               Collapse Hmm. Curious 2073 44 Mar 2 2009, 4:54pm
  Collapse Are we on the same page? Dreamdeer 2076 43 Mar 2 2009, 5:33pm
       Collapse How do we know N.E. Brigand 2064 39 Mar 2 2009, 5:42pm
           Collapse Different intention Dreamdeer 2059 38 Mar 2 2009, 6:18pm
               Collapse Who wants "better than average"? Curious 2069 13 Mar 2 2009, 6:39pm
                   Collapse Matter of degree and opportunity Dreamdeer 2071 12 Mar 3 2009, 4:23am
                       Collapse He also has divine and elven blood. Curious 2063 11 Mar 3 2009, 11:23am
                           Collapse I think it's a bit more complicated. FarFromHome 2069 9 Mar 3 2009, 12:34pm
                               Collapse Semi-divine, Curious 2070 8 Mar 3 2009, 4:18pm
                                   Collapse Well, at least the female ancestors knew. Darkstone 2070 3 Mar 3 2009, 5:36pm
                                       Collapse Dirhael is male.// Curious 2032 2 Mar 3 2009, 5:45pm
                                           Collapse I know. Darkstone 2039 1 Mar 3 2009, 6:09pm
                                               I see your point. Although Curious 2048 0 Mar 3 2009, 6:56pm
                                   Collapse I can't see anything FarFromHome 2043 3 Mar 3 2009, 5:42pm
                                       Collapse Is Gandalf human, then, by your definition? Curious 2037 2 Mar 3 2009, 5:50pm
                                           Collapse Yes. // FarFromHome 2030 1 Mar 3 2009, 6:15pm
                                               That explains alot. Curious 2028 0 Mar 3 2009, 7:00pm
                           Philosopher-King Dreamdeer 2016 0 Mar 4 2009, 2:04am
               Collapse Faith in Christ, and the ennoblement of the noble squire 2051 23 Mar 2 2009, 7:26pm
                   Very interesting point! Curious 2032 0 Mar 2 2009, 11:03pm
                   Expand Normalcy Dreamdeer 2081 1 Mar 3 2009, 11:32am
                   Collapse Spiderman comes across as human too. Curious 2039 19 Mar 3 2009, 5:43pm
                       Collapse Nice point about the Ring FarFromHome 2036 3 Mar 3 2009, 5:49pm
                           Collapse Except Curious 2035 2 Mar 3 2009, 5:54pm
                               Collapse Agreed. FarFromHome 2060 1 Mar 3 2009, 6:23pm
                                   I don't think so. Curious 2035 0 Mar 3 2009, 6:48pm
                       Collapse Aragorn as Elessar does not receive the Power of the Ring squire 2039 14 Mar 3 2009, 5:51pm
                           Collapse That line can be fuzzy. Curious 2036 12 Mar 3 2009, 6:02pm
                               Collapse Well, he is a King, for gods' sake. squire 2038 1 Mar 3 2009, 7:12pm
                                   No, not sinister at all. Curious 2035 0 Mar 3 2009, 7:31pm
                               Collapse Police Dreamdeer 3291 9 Mar 4 2009, 2:19am
                                   Collapse Where is the inquest Curious 3285 8 Mar 4 2009, 2:23am
                                       Collapse Something subtler Dreamdeer 3292 4 Mar 4 2009, 2:28am
                                           Collapse I find your point more persuasive than squire's. Curious 3309 3 Mar 4 2009, 2:13pm
                                               Collapse Thank you! Dreamdeer 3254 2 Mar 4 2009, 3:52pm
                                                   Collapse Is the Guard a police force? Curious 3251 1 Mar 4 2009, 6:05pm
                                                       I concede both points... Dreamdeer 3251 0 Mar 5 2009, 4:32am
                                       Collapse So what? squire 3306 2 Mar 4 2009, 3:10am
                                           Collapse Sure I can imagine it. Curious 3274 1 Mar 4 2009, 11:14am
                                               That explains a lot. squire 3277 0 Mar 4 2009, 11:40am
                           Good points--important distinction! // Dreamdeer 2017 0 Mar 4 2009, 2:10am
       Collapse I won't repeat Curious 2060 2 Mar 2 2009, 6:04pm
           Collapse Agreed. Dreamdeer 2044 1 Mar 2 2009, 6:21pm
               Yep, there's a bright line between them.// Curious 2045 0 Mar 2 2009, 6:32pm
                                                                           Collapse My edits vanished Dreamdeer 2074 2 Mar 2 2009, 4:02pm
                                                                               Oops--they didn't disappear! Dreamdeer 2081 0 Mar 2 2009, 4:04pm
                                                                               Tolkien's characters *are* believable within Curious 2078 0 Mar 2 2009, 5:16pm
                                                               Collapse Think of hobbits as a lens, not as authors squire 2111 5 Mar 1 2009, 7:40pm
                                                                   Collapse That works for me. FarFromHome 2065 4 Mar 2 2009, 5:28pm
                                                                       FYI: "mythology for England" isn't Tolkien's phrase. N.E. Brigand 2063 0 Mar 2 2009, 5:46pm
                                                                       Collapse I take back the "gag" remark squire 2043 2 Mar 2 2009, 6:54pm
                                                                           Fair enough. FarFromHome 2040 0 Mar 2 2009, 7:13pm
                                                                           I tend to agree with the 'hobbit-lens' rather than 'hobbit-author' distinction you make sador 2056 0 Mar 2 2009, 7:28pm
                                                               I discussed most of these points Curious 2089 0 Mar 2 2009, 12:16am
                                   Collapse What's the big deal? Tolkien Forever 2287 6 Feb 26 2009, 2:01pm
                                       Collapse I don't have any problem with your approach. Curious 2281 5 Feb 26 2009, 5:24pm
                                           Collapse Dog Chasing the Tail Tolkien Forever 2122 4 Feb 26 2009, 10:45pm
                                               Collapse Can we not take this subject any further? N.E. Brigand 2126 2 Feb 26 2009, 11:05pm
                                                   Agreed. Curious 2113 0 Feb 26 2009, 11:09pm
                                                   I agree totaslly Tolkien Forever 2110 0 Feb 26 2009, 11:14pm
                                               No, I hate Tolkien. Curious 2122 0 Feb 26 2009, 11:07pm
                                   Collapse Enchantment and Disillusionment Dreamdeer 2292 24 Feb 26 2009, 5:16pm
                                       Collapse I like finding a middle ground. Curious 2282 20 Feb 26 2009, 5:37pm
                                           Collapse Thank you for a gentlemanly response... Dreamdeer 2276 19 Feb 26 2009, 5:56pm
                                               Collapse It's possible. Curious 2280 18 Feb 26 2009, 6:21pm
                                                   Collapse It's not unpublished. FarFromHome 2287 17 Feb 26 2009, 6:33pm
                                                       Collapse Written before LOTR was published. N.E. Brigand 2282 16 Feb 26 2009, 6:45pm
                                                           Collapse You are quite correct Voronwë_the_Faithful 2267 15 Feb 26 2009, 9:13pm
                                                               Collapse I don't think Tolkien lived in his own fantasy land all the time. squire 2264 14 Feb 26 2009, 10:08pm
                                                                   Collapse You mistake my meaning Voronwë_the_Faithful 2124 12 Feb 26 2009, 10:27pm
                                                                       Collapse I get you now squire 2114 11 Feb 26 2009, 11:35pm
                                                                           Collapse I agree with both you and Curious about the narrator of LOTR Voronwë_the_Faithful 2101 10 Feb 26 2009, 11:42pm
                                                                               Collapse I'll have to disagree... Morthoron 2112 9 Feb 27 2009, 2:00am
  Collapse Who saw and reported on the "most tragic moment" in LOTR? N.E. Brigand 2103 6 Feb 27 2009, 2:11am
       Collapse Very true... Morthoron 2097 5 Feb 27 2009, 2:39am
           Collapse Hmm. N.E. Brigand 2122 4 Feb 27 2009, 2:55am
               Collapse Not quite that. FarFromHome 2068 3 Mar 1 2009, 4:33pm
                   Collapse Do you really think Voronwë_the_Faithful 2064 2 Mar 1 2009, 4:49pm
                       Well, it's certainly arguable squire 2064 0 Mar 1 2009, 5:05pm
                       Sure. N.E. Brigand 2061 0 Mar 1 2009, 5:09pm
  Collapse Focusing on the hobbits protagonists is not the same Curious 2090 1 Feb 27 2009, 8:13am
       In the Prologue, Merry is considered to be a bit of an author sador 2088 0 Feb 27 2009, 8:29am
                                                                   And I would argue Curious 2121 0 Feb 26 2009, 10:57pm
                                       Collapse What if your premise is wrong? N.E. Brigand 2287 2 Feb 26 2009, 6:18pm
                                           Collapse Yes Dreamdeer 2096 1 Feb 27 2009, 4:27am
                                               Harder and more elusive. N.E. Brigand 2093 0 Feb 27 2009, 5:02am
       Now it was my turn! sador 6975 0 Feb 24 2009, 1:43pm

  Expand entire thread Fellowship - Rookie Reader Review Cygnus 67707 160 Feb 18 2019, 3:57am Jump to last post in thread (by N.E. Brigand)

  Expand entire thread need help filling in some blanks please (First Age, Elros, Elrond, Gil-galad, etc.) erynion 27511 159 Jun 9 2013, 9:36am Jump to last post in thread (by wildespace)

  Expand entire thread Do Elves have free will? visualweasel 56913 156 Mar 23 2009, 3:18pm Jump to last post in thread (by visualweasel)

  Expand entire thread **Unfinished Tales Discussion - Disaster of the Gladden Fields noWizardme 33629 154 Mar 6 2014, 8:28am Jump to last post in thread (by Plurmo)

  Expand entire thread Fellowship of The Ring - unofficial, unsanctioned, unsolicited read through Eruonen 27863 152 Apr 25 2017, 1:10am Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
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