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  Expand entire thread Sticky: General notice re book discussions and the use of copyrighted materials Ataahua 119339 1 Jun 20 2007, 12:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by Wynnie)

  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to the Reading Room (-->Including links to old RR discussions!) Altaira 115141 0 Dec 28 2006, 3:11am Jump to last post in thread (by AltairaGuest)

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  Expand entire thread Silmarilion Discussion: Chapter 16 -- "Of Maeglin" Maciliel 65568 380 Jun 16 2013, 10:27am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)

  Expand entire thread Silmarillion Discussion, Chapter 19: Of Beren and Luthien: Love, etc. CuriousG 77242 343 Jul 8 2013, 8:00pm Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)

  Expand entire thread LOTR Unofficial Read Through - The Two Towers Eruonen 69426 322 Jul 24 2017, 8:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)

  Expand entire thread The Fellowship of the Ring Discussion, Chapter Two: The Shadow of the Past Kim 50083 226 Dec 22 2014, 1:11am Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)

  Expand entire thread 'The Fellowship of the Ring' Discussion, Chapter One: A Long-Expected Party Rembrethil 53243 186 Dec 17 2014, 2:33pm Jump to last post in thread (by Rembrethil)

  Collapse The Return of the King - Unofficial read through Eruonen 35754 183 Jul 23 2017, 3:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by sador)
       Collapse The suburbs are in league with us squire 35494 1 Jul 23 2017, 10:24pm
           Agree on the landscape....we have the flat plain in our head from the movie. Eruonen 35483 0 Jul 24 2017, 12:10am
       Collapse Demographics--good catch CuriousG 35471 20 Jul 24 2017, 2:42am
           Collapse I think of Rome or Greece / Balkans with the coming of the Goths Eruonen 35455 19 Jul 24 2017, 4:14am
               Collapse Minas Tirith is described as Eruonen 35428 18 Jul 24 2017, 4:18pm
                   Collapse Just playing with trig calc Eruonen 35425 10 Jul 24 2017, 4:49pm
                       Collapse Kine of Araw Eruonen 35410 7 Jul 24 2017, 6:03pm
                           Collapse Where does "hardier and wilder than any others in Middle-earth" come from? squire 35412 6 Jul 24 2017, 6:24pm
                               Collapse Wild oxen Eruonen 35413 5 Jul 24 2017, 6:30pm
                                   Collapse Martinez is always worth reading squire 35404 3 Jul 24 2017, 7:05pm
                                       Collapse Check out the footnotes... Eruonen 35392 2 Jul 24 2017, 7:26pm
                                           Horn of Sigismund Eruonen 35384 0 Jul 24 2017, 7:30pm
                                           Still checking, still looking squire 35360 0 Jul 24 2017, 8:53pm
                                   In the published book sador 35394 0 Jul 24 2017, 7:14pm
                       Collapse So I'm not the only math geek here? CuriousG 35368 1 Jul 24 2017, 8:13pm
                           My guess is that he did not work out the math.... Eruonen 35362 0 Jul 24 2017, 8:23pm
                   Some elevated real world castles / monasteries Eruonen 35403 0 Jul 24 2017, 7:01pm
                   Collapse Minas Tirith by Karen Wynn Fonstad Otaku-sempai 35385 2 Jul 24 2017, 7:32pm
                       That is helpful...estimates of course...but her diagram shows a possible Eruonen 35378 0 Jul 24 2017, 7:50pm
                       Looking at the images CuriousG 35366 0 Jul 24 2017, 8:10pm
                   Collapse The main road zig-zagged back and forth across the hill-face squire 35361 2 Jul 24 2017, 8:48pm
                       Unfortunately, other than height the math is all estimated by Fonstadt and Eruonen 35352 0 Jul 24 2017, 9:32pm
                       Played around some more with the calculator and it may not be as bad as thought Eruonen 35306 0 Jul 25 2017, 4:36am
       Collapse Sleeping on a horse CuriousG 35290 116 Jul 25 2017, 11:11am
           Collapse Yes, and Gandalf is even quite polite and supportive of Pippen Eruonen 10281 115 Jul 25 2017, 2:15pm
               Collapse Denethor and Saruman as twin bros CuriousG 10243 114 Jul 25 2017, 8:14pm
                   Collapse I note Pippin, gazing over the Pelennor sees farms, fields etc. but no "kine" or other animals Eruonen 10228 112 Jul 25 2017, 9:32pm
                       Collapse Ah, I did not read far enough....Pippin does see the wains being pulled by Eruonen 10214 111 Jul 25 2017, 11:58pm
                           Collapse Hobbit growth arcs CuriousG 10157 110 Jul 26 2017, 11:37am
                               Collapse Pippin and Beregond on the wall - nice pencil sketch Eruonen 10143 109 Jul 26 2017, 1:59pm
                                   Collapse It was a nice break to be with Pippin and Bergil as they went through Minas Tirith and Eruonen 10130 108 Jul 26 2017, 3:36pm
                                       Some sketches of various support troops Eruonen 10124 0 Jul 26 2017, 3:44pm
                                       Collapse This contrast strikes me CuriousG 10123 106 Jul 26 2017, 5:59pm
                                           Collapse Sounds like a poorer rural province - like the deep South or Appalachia in America. Eruonen 10115 105 Jul 26 2017, 6:13pm
                                             Collapse If you didn't check the footnotes CuriousG 10060 104 Jul 27 2017, 10:35am
                                                   Collapse Yeah Darkstone 10044 101 Jul 27 2017, 1:04pm
                                                       Collapse In the right measure! Eruonen 10029 100 Jul 27 2017, 2:41pm
                                                           Collapse The Passing of the Grey Company Eruonen 10027 99 Jul 27 2017, 3:00pm
                                                               Collapse Eowyn Eruonen 10000 98 Jul 27 2017, 5:56pm
                                                                   Collapse Dead Men of Dunharrow Eruonen 10010 95 Jul 27 2017, 6:08pm
                                                                       Collapse Dead Men, Dead Marshes, Barrows, ... CuriousG 9958 94 Jul 28 2017, 2:20am
                                                                           Collapse The Dead of Dunharrow: "Angels of Mons" if we want a World War I stimulus? noWizardme 9918 93 Jul 28 2017, 12:42pm
                                                                               Collapse Oh yes, I remember that story.....I have to think Tolkien heard it too. Eruonen 9879 92 Jul 28 2017, 3:03pm
  Collapse I wish the Stone of Erech scene was included in the movie. Eruonen 9867 91 Jul 28 2017, 5:20pm
       Collapse HOME trivium: the stone of Erech was briefly to be a huge palantir noWizardme 9852 90 Jul 28 2017, 8:18pm
           Collapse Maybe the size of one's stone does matter.....for seeing power Eruonen 9846 89 Jul 28 2017, 9:25pm
               Collapse In looking at a map of Rohan it seems a bit confusing regarding movements - film vs book Eruonen 7743 88 Jul 29 2017, 3:22pm
                   Collapse Pukel Men Eruonen 7738 87 Jul 29 2017, 4:02pm
                       Collapse The Rohirrim Eruonen 7732 85 Jul 29 2017, 4:26pm
                           Collapse As the chapter ends, and Theoden is about to enter Gondor proper, Eruonen 7690 84 Jul 30 2017, 1:36am
                               Collapse The Siege of Minas Tirith Eruonen 7617 2 Jul 31 2017, 2:45am
                                   Collapse A strange thing about Tolkien's style. Hamfast Gamgee 6620 1 Aug 5 2017, 9:56pm
                                     LOL!! // CuriousG 6397 0 Aug 7 2017, 8:22pm
                               Collapse So, we learn that the blocking force crossed over at Cair Andros Eruonen 7606 27 Jul 31 2017, 1:39pm
                                   Bearded Easterlings with Large Axes Eruonen 7603 0 Jul 31 2017, 2:10pm
                                   Collapse Yes. sador 7602 25 Jul 31 2017, 2:44pm
                                       Collapse Since Tolkien did not show their contest I dislike PJ deciding it. Eruonen 7600 12 Jul 31 2017, 2:57pm
                                           Collapse Gandalf the Grey held off all of the Nine at Weathertop CuriousG 7581 11 Jul 31 2017, 9:13pm
                                               Collapse But who wins the non-battle, and why have the non-showdown? noWizardme 6217 10 Aug 2 2017, 5:19pm
                                                   Collapse Nobody wins because Tolkien wants to keep the contest open FarFromHome 6200 5 Aug 2 2017, 6:26pm
                                                       Collapse Yes, it was a hanging plot device as another fate beckons. Eruonen 6191 4 Aug 2 2017, 7:55pm
                                                           Collapse Also, we can't forget this - Eruonen 6191 3 Aug 2 2017, 8:12pm
                                                               Collapse Exactly. FarFromHome 6186 1 Aug 2 2017, 9:07pm
                                                                   Shows what's really important. /// Darkstone 6170 0 Aug 2 2017, 9:24pm
                                                               P.S. will be out Thurs and Friday.....carry on! Eruonen 6182 0 Aug 2 2017, 9:09pm
                                                   Collapse The climax that wasn't CuriousG 6711 3 Aug 4 2017, 1:24am
                                                       This. / Darkstone 6663 0 Aug 4 2017, 12:55pm
                                                       Collapse The dissolution of the King of the Nazgul Eruonen 6563 1 Aug 6 2017, 6:26pm
                                                           The field is won with the coming of Aragorn and the southern fief forces. Eruonen 6526 0 Aug 7 2017, 12:08am
                                       Collapse It's like Ayer vs. Tyson? noWizardme 6213 11 Aug 2 2017, 5:29pm
                                           Collapse I think it is set up beautifully as a plot and tension device.... Eruonen 6210 10 Aug 2 2017, 5:48pm
                                               And recall this statement by Gandalf - from TTT Eruonen 6199 0 Aug 2 2017, 6:18pm
                                               Collapse Interesting. I see it rather differently :) noWizardme 6197 8 Aug 2 2017, 6:20pm
                                                   Gandalf was not acting as a herald with the Balrog and this is a similar encounter. Eruonen 6191 0 Aug 2 2017, 7:54pm
                                                   Collapse Agree and disagree ;) FarFromHome 6184 6 Aug 2 2017, 8:53pm
                                                       Yes, the recurring role of fortune showing up..... Eruonen 6179 0 Aug 2 2017, 9:11pm
                                                       Collapse But isn't Gandalf's only job to save Faramir - which he does? squire 6180 4 Aug 2 2017, 9:34pm
                                                           Collapse I don't understand. FarFromHome 6165 2 Aug 3 2017, 8:28am
                                                               Collapse Our next-to-last discussion on Gandalf's participation in the siege found a tension between healer and "warrior" squire 6161 1 Aug 3 2017, 12:11pm
                                                                   Thanks! FarFromHome 6153 0 Aug 3 2017, 2:32pm
                                                           Yes, and yet.... noWizardme 6166 0 Aug 3 2017, 8:47am
                               Good point about leaderless Rohan. CuriousG 7580 0 Jul 31 2017, 9:08pm
                               Collapse Theoden left Erkenbrand in charge Darkstone 7588 51 Jul 31 2017, 9:17pm
                                   Collapse Do you mean Grimbold was left in command? Eruonen 7568 2 Jul 31 2017, 9:48pm
                                       Collapse Grimbold went to the Pelennor Darkstone 7561 1 Jul 31 2017, 10:02pm
                                           Ok, that makes sense now. Eruonen 7554 0 Jul 31 2017, 10:04pm
                                   Collapse Patriarchy indeed! FarFromHome 7498 46 Aug 1 2017, 7:52am
                                       Collapse Royal history vs military history squire 7494 1 Aug 1 2017, 11:50am
                                           The Ride of the Rohirrim Eruonen 7479 0 Aug 1 2017, 1:57pm
                                       Collapse But in Rohan, doesn't Military Leadership = Royal Leadership? Darkstone 7481 43 Aug 1 2017, 2:11pm
                                           Collapse There is still usually a military leader who serves the crown so Eruonen 7479 1 Aug 1 2017, 2:21pm
                                               The Battle of the Pelennor Eruonen 6268 0 Aug 2 2017, 1:26am
                                           And our Gondorian history of this Rohrric episode might have an effect noWizardme 7459 0 Aug 1 2017, 3:15pm
                                           Collapse A sword and a corslet...and a skirt. FarFromHome 7439 39 Aug 1 2017, 7:53pm
                                               Or coveralls Darkstone 6290 0 Aug 1 2017, 8:14pm
                                               Collapse To desert is not just a military action - is simply means she left an appointed post Eruonen 6274 37 Aug 2 2017, 1:01am
                                                   Collapse That's why I put "deserting" in scare quotes... FarFromHome 6244 36 Aug 2 2017, 7:45am
                                                       Yes Darkstone 6230 0 Aug 2 2017, 1:18pm
                                                       Collapse I think Eowyn and at least the leadership knew they were likely going to their deaths Eruonen 6215 34 Aug 2 2017, 4:29pm
                                                           Collapse Not just Eowyn FarFromHome 6603 33 Aug 6 2017, 12:01pm
                                                               Collapse Unfortunately, we don't know if Eowyn gets into that song or not squire 6605 31 Aug 6 2017, 12:22pm
                                                                   Collapse The particular song we're given FarFromHome 6548 30 Aug 6 2017, 8:44pm
                                                                       Collapse Suicide by Nazgul, maybe? Meneldor 6534 29 Aug 6 2017, 11:15pm
                                                                           Collapse Actually... No One in Particular 6533 28 Aug 6 2017, 11:30pm
                                                                               Collapse Interesting idea to compare Eowyn with Denethor FarFromHome 6449 27 Aug 7 2017, 2:49pm
  This is good! / Darkstone 6415 0 Aug 7 2017, 6:10pm
  Collapse Agree, good points. Denethor certainly would have tried to Eruonen 6420 5 Aug 7 2017, 6:32pm
       Collapse The Pyre of Denethor Eruonen 6417 4 Aug 7 2017, 6:38pm
           Collapse That statement certainly shows Gandalf intended to thwart the Witch-King himself. // CuriousG 6395 1 Aug 7 2017, 8:28pm
               He surely did. sador 6143 0 Aug 8 2017, 6:52am
           Collapse Pippen arrives and Gandalf decides to ride to the Citadel Eruonen 6353 1 Aug 8 2017, 3:37am
               The dissolution cry of the Witch King is heard rising from the plain to the Eruonen 6347 0 Aug 8 2017, 3:51am
  Collapse Nice comparison CuriousG 6403 17 Aug 7 2017, 8:26pm
       Collapse But - sador 6339 16 Aug 8 2017, 6:42am
           Re Denethor's state of mind I just refer to his speech to Gandalf Eruonen 6119 0 Aug 8 2017, 2:44pm
           Collapse Easing death FarFromHome 6115 11 Aug 8 2017, 3:45pm
               Collapse "Entirely in thrall to Sauron"? sador 6106 10 Aug 8 2017, 4:27pm
                   Collapse You're right, I overstated my case there! FarFromHome 6099 9 Aug 8 2017, 5:28pm
                       Collapse Nice analysis of the claim Eruonen 6082 7 Aug 8 2017, 9:06pm
                           Collapse The Houses of Healing Eruonen 6082 6 Aug 8 2017, 9:13pm
                               Collapse I thought movie-Legolas was aiming at the eyes. sador 6025 1 Aug 9 2017, 10:48am
                                   Some riders were, but Legolas goes Mumakil climbing. Eruonen 6014 0 Aug 9 2017, 1:40pm
                               Collapse Ioreth speaks to Gandalf of the her wish for a king to lay on his hands for healing Eruonen 6008 3 Aug 9 2017, 2:41pm
                                   Another paper on Tolkien and healing concepts Eruonen 6001 0 Aug 9 2017, 2:57pm
                                   Aragorn speaks to Faramir who is under the Black Breath - lost in a void so to speak Eruonen 5978 0 Aug 9 2017, 7:33pm
                                   Alas, Gandalf needing to be prompted by Ioreth feels so staged to me CuriousG 6946 0 Aug 11 2017, 6:49pm
                       Denethor No One in Particular 6058 0 Aug 9 2017, 3:34am
           Collapse Eowyn understood Merry's plea and felt the same... Eruonen 6107 2 Aug 8 2017, 4:11pm
               Collapse That of course depends sador 6022 1 Aug 9 2017, 10:41am
                   Had Theoden not died and had Eowyn not have played a significant role Eruonen 6020 0 Aug 9 2017, 1:38pm
  Not a perfect reflection, but... No One in Particular 6367 0 Aug 8 2017, 2:51am
  Excellent! // sador 6334 0 Aug 8 2017, 6:12am
                                                               "Fight on, and do not despair! Meneldor 6592 0 Aug 6 2017, 2:18pm
                                   Thanks! // CuriousG 7490 0 Aug 1 2017, 10:39am
                       For some reason, I think most of Easter Island statues re: Pukel Men & Dunharrow. // CuriousG 7574 0 Jul 31 2017, 9:06pm
                                                                   Collapse Eowyn: Love, honour, debts, and leaving your mark before the end of the world noWizardme 9918 1 Jul 28 2017, 12:25pm
                                                                       What's fun about Eowyn CuriousG 7576 0 Jul 31 2017, 9:04pm
                                                 Collapse Nah, they're Sweet Child O' Kine:) noWizardme 9916 1 Jul 28 2017, 12:29pm
                                                     Between u & Darkstone, I Kine of like puns now. // CuriousG 9893 0 Jul 28 2017, 1:53pm
                   Although Denethor at least didn't actively help Sauron the way Saruman did. Hamfast Gamgee 6612 0 Aug 5 2017, 9:52pm
       Collapse Wild Bill Hickoks of Middle Earth InTheChair 6710 42 Aug 3 2017, 10:11pm
           Collapse The Red Arrow? N.E. Brigand 6140 41 Aug 8 2017, 6:50am
               Collapse I guess so. sador 6140 40 Aug 8 2017, 7:54am
                   Collapse Does Gondor use carrier pigeons? N.E. Brigand 5965 39 Aug 9 2017, 11:51pm
                       Collapse Well, Pippin revealed himself in the Palantir to Sauron who could have shared the vision Eruonen 5945 37 Aug 10 2017, 3:08am
                           Collapse I wish I could find some Athelas / Kings Foil Eruonen 5906 6 Aug 10 2017, 3:26pm
                               Other plant candidates offered in replies Eruonen 5897 0 Aug 10 2017, 3:38pm
                               Collapse Marshmallows? Darkstone 5897 4 Aug 10 2017, 3:39pm
                                   Collapse Good catch, it certainly bears a latin name similar - Althaea officinalis Eruonen 5892 3 Aug 10 2017, 3:47pm
                                       Collapse Tolkien word drop of the day - 'perian' Eruonen 5886 2 Aug 10 2017, 4:58pm
                                           Perian = Fairies? Darkstone 7098 0 Aug 10 2017, 5:33pm
                                           Another word source Eruonen 7065 0 Aug 10 2017, 8:32pm
                           Collapse Sauron thinks Pippin is Frodo. N.E. Brigand 7063 29 Aug 10 2017, 9:27pm
                               Collapse All he knows is "Baggins" from Gollum. He would not know one from the other- agree. Eruonen 7056 24 Aug 10 2017, 9:31pm
                                   Collapse The Last Debate Eruonen 7019 23 Aug 11 2017, 3:08am
                                       Collapse The Grey Host Eruonen 6960 22 Aug 11 2017, 4:16pm
                                           The keys to the question are oaths, and mercy, I think. squire 6948 0 Aug 11 2017, 6:42pm
                                           Are the Dead like Harry Potter's dementors? CuriousG 6942 0 Aug 11 2017, 6:59pm
                                           Collapse Well Darkstone 6943 19 Aug 11 2017, 7:30pm
                                               Collapse Isildur cursed them - did he have the ring at that time? My guess is that he did not Eruonen 6934 17 Aug 11 2017, 8:40pm
                                                   Collapse The assembled forces Eruonen 6830 16 Aug 12 2017, 4:44pm
                                                       The Black Gate Opens Eruonen 6827 0 Aug 12 2017, 5:30pm
                                                       The numbers don't lie... No One in Particular 6800 0 Aug 13 2017, 12:15am
                                                       Collapse It makes the decision rather easy, really squire 6802 13 Aug 13 2017, 12:41am
                                                           Yes, they were picked up for a while but then again, the general movement Eruonen 6790 0 Aug 13 2017, 12:48am
                                                           Collapse "The Black Gate is broken / and your King hath passed through / and he is victorious" sador 6750 11 Aug 13 2017, 5:41am
                                                               Collapse The parley at the Black Gate is fascinating Eruonen 6717 10 Aug 13 2017, 4:54pm
                                                                   Collapse How genuine do we think Sauron's offer is? noWizardme 6691 9 Aug 13 2017, 8:48pm
                                                                       Collapse Yes, this is one of those WW 2 parallels Tolkien was so defensive about squire 6336 6 Aug 13 2017, 9:13pm
                                                                           Collapse Gandalf called Sauron the great liar so I don't think he put much stock into the offer Eruonen 6333 5 Aug 13 2017, 9:20pm
                                                                               Collapse I think Sauron's false parley was just part of his game. CuriousG 6324 4 Aug 14 2017, 2:06am
  I think the outcome of acceptance may have been a delayed slaughter. Eruonen 6317 0 Aug 14 2017, 2:32am
  Collapse That line seems to prove it. sador 6322 2 Aug 14 2017, 2:34am
       Collapse And meanwhile, of course, Tolkien has his own agenda noWizardme 6284 1 Aug 14 2017, 11:58am
           For sure. sador 6253 0 Aug 14 2017, 5:26pm
                                                                       Collapse "And with chaos installed,/ Sauron can reluctantly agree to be called." Darkstone 6301 1 Aug 14 2017, 7:33am
                                                                           Fitting quote "not from" Lenin! Eruonen 6256 0 Aug 14 2017, 5:08pm
                                               One wonders further sador 6751 0 Aug 13 2017, 5:28am
                               Collapse "But Sauron - who knows what he can do?" sador 6979 3 Aug 11 2017, 2:05pm
                                   Collapse Four Hobbit Monte? Darkstone 6980 2 Aug 11 2017, 2:24pm
                                     Collapse Poor Sauron must conclude that hobbits breed like rabbits, an endless supply of them.// CuriousG 6942 1 Aug 11 2017, 6:52pm
                                           Well they kind of do... FarFromHome 6945 0 Aug 11 2017, 7:19pm
                       That's a good question. sador 7097 0 Aug 10 2017, 5:13pm

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