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  Expand entire thread Sticky: General notice re book discussions and the use of copyrighted materials Ataahua 72332 1 Jun 20 2007, 12:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by Wynnie)

  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to the Reading Room (-->Including links to old RR discussions!) Altaira 69231 0 Dec 28 2006, 3:11am Jump to last post in thread (by Altaira)

Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 61620 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:44pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

  Expand entire thread Silmarilion Discussion: Chapter 16 -- "Of Maeglin" Maciliel 32791 380 Jun 16 2013, 10:27am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)

  Expand entire thread Silmarillion Discussion, Chapter 19: Of Beren and Luthien: Love, etc. CuriousG 44907 343 Jul 8 2013, 8:00pm Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)

  Expand entire thread LOTR Unofficial Read Through - The Two Towers Eruonen 36986 322 Jul 24 2017, 8:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)

  Collapse The Fellowship of the Ring Discussion, Chapter Two: The Shadow of the Past Kim 5722 226 Dec 14 2014, 7:15pm Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)
       Collapse Part 2 Kim 5099 78 Dec 14 2014, 7:17pm
           Collapse That troublesome Ring Brethil 5066 68 Dec 14 2014, 10:36pm
               Collapse the Ring has agency a.s. 5060 67 Dec 14 2014, 11:17pm
                   Collapse Scary indeed. Why didn't evil come from it? CuriousG 5041 14 Dec 14 2014, 11:42pm
                       Collapse A most important sentence... Brethil 5061 2 Dec 15 2014, 12:11am
                           Collapse That's probably the strand of hope running through this distraught tale. CuriousG 5026 1 Dec 15 2014, 12:23am
                               I agree. There was always a sense of suspensful hope. Rembrethil 1963 0 Dec 17 2014, 3:30pm
                       Collapse could Bilbo have been happy in the Shire, if he never claimed the Ring? a.s. 5032 8 Dec 15 2014, 12:39am
                           Collapse An excellent question Brethil 5008 6 Dec 15 2014, 3:18am
                               Collapse Hmmm.... Maybe... Rembrethil 1951 5 Dec 17 2014, 4:01pm
                                   Collapse I like your answer better than mine. Brethil 2101 4 Dec 17 2014, 10:18pm
                                       Collapse 'Two wrongs don't make a right' Rembrethil 2065 3 Dec 18 2014, 9:18pm
                                           Collapse But three rights make a left. / Darkstone 2055 2 Dec 18 2014, 9:28pm
                                             Maybe, but.... Rembrethil 2072 0 Dec 18 2014, 9:34pm
                                               Zero lefts means you're all right. // Brethil 2049 0 Dec 19 2014, 3:02am
                           Did the Ring spoil the Shire? Rembrethil 1983 0 Dec 17 2014, 3:48pm
                       Collapse Yes, it is odd... Rembrethil 1975 1 Dec 17 2014, 3:13pm
                           Bilbo becoming a scholar CuriousG 2107 0 Dec 17 2014, 10:16pm
                   Collapse I agree a.s! Brethil 5029 44 Dec 15 2014, 12:03am
                       Collapse It's the mystery that makes it scarier, I think. CuriousG 5028 2 Dec 15 2014, 12:27am
                         Note to self: never leave valuable surprise gifts in CG's underwear drawer. // Brethil 4999 0 Dec 15 2014, 3:20am
                           Yes! Rembrethil 1966 0 Dec 17 2014, 3:32pm
                       Collapse Fear of the Unknown. Rembrethil 1966 40 Dec 17 2014, 3:02pm
                           Collapse Buying the whole philosophical package Brethil 2110 39 Dec 17 2014, 10:04pm
                               Collapse Nice! SirDennisC 2066 2 Dec 18 2014, 5:20am
                                 Yes! Rembrethil 2042 0 Dec 18 2014, 9:16pm
                                   Thankee! Brethil 2072 0 Dec 19 2014, 1:59am
                               Collapse I agree. I think that this point illustrates one of the difficulties with Tolkien. Rembrethil 2066 35 Dec 18 2014, 9:10pm
                                   Collapse It is also how Boromir reacts, in a way Dame Ioreth 2076 28 Dec 18 2014, 11:57pm
                                       Collapse I don't think that's quite the right angle to look at it from squire 2098 12 Dec 19 2014, 12:15am
                                           good point Dame Ioreth 2081 0 Dec 19 2014, 12:25am
                                           Collapse It isn't that the Ring corrupts Frodo. Frodo succumbs to temptation but avoids corruption. a.s. 2081 2 Dec 19 2014, 12:50am
                                               OK, I think squire 2089 0 Dec 19 2014, 1:12am
                                               I see what you mean. Rembrethil 2105 0 Dec 19 2014, 3:20am
                                           Collapse Power Rembrethil 2115 6 Dec 19 2014, 3:34am
                                               Some lines from Letters that bear upon your ideas Rem Brethil 2091 0 Dec 19 2014, 4:09am
                                               Collapse Could we avoid the trap - is it the ends, not the means, that matter? squire 2084 1 Dec 19 2014, 4:10am
                                                   Power corrupts Rembrethil 2076 0 Dec 19 2014, 4:34am
                                               Collapse I agree. And the Ring contains a specific person's evil power a.s. 2025 2 Dec 19 2014, 12:55pm
                                                   Collapse wow - "on the brink of Mt. Doom [Frodo] uses it to command Gollum to not touch him again" noWizardme 2004 1 Dec 19 2014, 2:21pm
                                                       Yes! Rembrethil 2023 0 Dec 19 2014, 2:32pm
                                           Hear, hear Brethil 2086 0 Dec 19 2014, 3:41am
                                       Collapse Lack of easy solutions...(in relation to Boromir's One Note Solution) Brethil 2052 10 Dec 19 2014, 2:46am
                                           Collapse Sort of Dame Ioreth 2045 1 Dec 19 2014, 3:15am
                                               I see your point better now - thank you! Brethil 2101 0 Dec 19 2014, 3:39am
                                           Collapse I think that Boromir made a decision Rembrethil 2089 7 Dec 19 2014, 3:38am
                                             Collapse If more of us valued insights above hoarded ideology, it would be a merrier world.” // Brethil 2090 6 Dec 19 2014, 3:47am
                                                   Collapse A laugh and a question. Rembrethil 2085 4 Dec 19 2014, 4:15am
                                                       Collapse Nothing like light questions, Rem Brethil 2076 2 Dec 19 2014, 4:52am
                                                           Collapse Light indeed!! Rembrethil 2061 1 Dec 19 2014, 5:33am
                                                               All very eloquently said Rem. // Brethil 1982 0 Dec 20 2014, 12:15am
                                                       "To prepare or let be"? - not an easy choice noWizardme 2048 0 Dec 19 2014, 10:11am
                                                   A world of sharing and liking. sador 2073 0 Dec 19 2014, 4:49am
                                       Collapse I have seen the ensuing sub-thread, but I'll reply here anyway... Rembrethil 2106 2 Dec 19 2014, 3:27am
                                           Collapse Perhaps this comes to: "Danger must surround power as shadow does light." noWizardme 2027 1 Dec 19 2014, 10:15am
                                               What is right? Rembrethil 2011 0 Dec 19 2014, 2:30pm
                                       Grey versus White Darkstone 1994 0 Dec 19 2014, 4:22pm
                                   Collapse Reference perhaps to Tolkien's internal world Brethil 2067 5 Dec 19 2014, 2:14am
                                       Collapse Perhaps this is to do with Fiction as "memory without remembering"? noWizardme 2038 4 Dec 19 2014, 10:24am
                                           I think I understand... Rembrethil 2008 0 Dec 19 2014, 2:55pm
                                           Collapse I agree with the 'engagement' idea Brethil 1991 2 Dec 20 2014, 12:09am
                                               Collapse Yes - It's Lord of the Engagement Rings! noWizardme 1980 1 Dec 20 2014, 12:37pm
                                                 I'm really enjoying your use of visuals here! Brethil 2322 0 Dec 22 2014, 1:11am
                   Collapse I like the way the Ring is ambiguous (and treacherous) from the first noWizardme 4977 6 Dec 15 2014, 11:41am
                       Collapse ring, Ring - the Ring gets named (and therefore Capitalized)! noWizardme 2449 1 Dec 15 2014, 12:05pm
                           Ooh.....most interesting! Rembrethil 2104 0 Dec 17 2014, 4:26pm
                       Collapse This reminds me of our CoH discussion... Rembrethil 1968 2 Dec 17 2014, 4:23pm
                           Collapse Yes, both good Tolkien-related reads! noWizardme 2081 1 Dec 17 2014, 5:12pm
                               Thanks! Rembrethil 2101 0 Dec 17 2014, 6:16pm
                       We get great mileage out of this one topic. Rembrethil 2058 0 Dec 19 2014, 4:42am
           "Who knows what evil...?" Darkstone 2439 0 Dec 15 2014, 6:32pm
           Collapse Ba-DUM!! squire 2420 2 Dec 15 2014, 9:09pm
               Collapse That is the problem with infodumps! noWizardme 2171 1 Dec 16 2014, 12:33pm
                 We'd need a new name for that dark saga... Rembrethil 2041 0 Dec 18 2014, 9:21pm
           Collapse 3...7...9...1: any significance in those numbers? noWizardme 2407 2 Dec 15 2014, 10:34pm
               Well... Darkstone 2425 0 Dec 15 2014, 11:04pm
               On numbers... Rembrethil 2099 0 Dec 18 2014, 9:32pm
           Still here!! I'll get through this yet! Rembrethil 2152 0 Dec 16 2014, 3:08pm
           As I hardly remember my first reading, I have little to offer sador 1971 0 Dec 17 2014, 1:31pm
       Collapse Part 3 Kim 5082 24 Dec 14 2014, 7:18pm
           Collapse Part 3, lots of info Brethil 5040 17 Dec 15 2014, 1:20am
               lots of info indeed Kim 5000 0 Dec 15 2014, 4:22am
               Collapse It's Chapter 2: time for an infodump! noWizardme 4977 3 Dec 15 2014, 11:51am
                   Collapse Lessons to be learned here CuriousG 2408 1 Dec 15 2014, 9:41pm
                       It's pretty good for an infodump - analysis (with pictures!) noWizardme 2153 0 Dec 16 2014, 5:01pm
                   Quite correct on the Infodump, Furincurunir Brethil 2008 0 Dec 16 2014, 10:54pm
               Collapse What makes a worthy companion? Rembrethil 1970 11 Dec 17 2014, 3:59pm
                 Collapse Reminds me of, "Put your trust in God, but keep your powder dry" // Brethil 2079 10 Dec 17 2014, 10:08pm
                       Collapse Is this it? Bracegirdle 2100 8 Dec 17 2014, 10:35pm
                           Collapse Yes - and as much as (ack!) I dislike Cromwell, that's what I was thinking of! Brethil 2077 7 Dec 17 2014, 10:52pm
                               Collapse No, but it is close... Rembrethil 2059 6 Dec 18 2014, 9:16pm
                                   Collapse I should never tell you to MYOB Rem! Brethil 2073 5 Dec 19 2014, 2:19am
                                       Collapse Ah...I see Rembrethil 2044 4 Dec 19 2014, 3:10am
                                           Collapse I find Cromwell to be a more of an extreme on the pendulum shift... Brethil 2086 1 Dec 19 2014, 4:15am
                                               To be further OT Rembrethil 2064 0 Dec 19 2014, 4:36am
                                           Collapse Cromwell might be used as a good example of the perils of power that Tolkien is 'tolkien about' noWizardme 2038 1 Dec 19 2014, 11:17am
                                               More OT historical observations Brethil 1993 0 Dec 20 2014, 2:37am
                       Similar, but not quite it. Rembrethil 2045 0 Dec 18 2014, 9:14pm
           Collapse Tales to Make Your Eyes Glaze Over Darkstone 2447 1 Dec 15 2014, 5:49pm
             Excellent noWizardme 2404 0 Dec 15 2014, 10:56pm
           Finishing up. Rembrethil 2164 0 Dec 16 2014, 3:21pm
           As I've written before - it's been years... sador 2069 0 Dec 18 2014, 1:40pm
           Collapse “The Shadow of the Past’ is one of the oldest parts of the tale. - JRRT squire 2062 1 Dec 18 2014, 8:12pm
               A few thoughts on yours.. Rembrethil 2084 0 Dec 18 2014, 9:51pm
       Collapse Part 1 discussion! Thanks Kim! Brethil 5061 1 Dec 14 2014, 9:31pm
           thoughts Kim 4983 0 Dec 15 2014, 4:06am
       Collapse Strange happenings and xenophobia CuriousG 5032 11 Dec 15 2014, 12:11am
           Collapse Interesting Kim 4980 3 Dec 15 2014, 4:35am
               Collapse Perhaps "wrong" is too strong a word CuriousG 2430 1 Dec 15 2014, 4:39pm
                   Yes.... Rembrethil 2075 0 Dec 19 2014, 4:48am
               I think he meant 'literally' in a different way Rembrethil 1954 0 Dec 17 2014, 4:10pm
           Collapse Mad Baggins, his narrator, and his heir noWizardme 4988 1 Dec 15 2014, 11:45am
               One thing about Mad Baggins Possible book spoilers, I suppose! Hamfast Gamgee 2396 0 Dec 16 2014, 12:32am
           Collapse Xenophobia or rules for a simple life? SirDennisC 2424 2 Dec 16 2014, 4:00am
               That's an important distinction. Thank you! // sador 2164 0 Dec 16 2014, 7:57am
               Does it work though? "The wide world is all about you: you can fence yourselves in, but you cannot forever fence it out" // noWizardme 2169 0 Dec 16 2014, 10:03am
           Meetings and curses. Rembrethil 1967 0 Dec 17 2014, 3:24pm
           Yes, I agree--those foreigners! Ethel Duath 1987 0 Dec 20 2014, 5:47pm
       Collapse The Gathering Storm squire 5025 14 Dec 15 2014, 4:39am
           Thanks for that link! Kim 4996 0 Dec 15 2014, 5:47am
           Collapse Gandalf and Frodo a.s. 2467 10 Dec 15 2014, 12:48pm
               Collapse {{a.s.wonders why the spell check on TORn doesn't change Minis to Minas automatically}} // a.s. 2436 8 Dec 15 2014, 1:05pm
                   Collapse Why should it? Minis Tirith exists - has done so for decades now... squire 2426 7 Dec 15 2014, 10:25pm
                       Collapse I have seen the White City and it is a.s. 2022 6 Dec 16 2014, 9:52pm
                           Collapse “A good joke should be like a woman's skirt... squire 2010 3 Dec 17 2014, 2:34am
                               Collapse You belong to a more decent age sador 1984 1 Dec 17 2014, 5:19am
                                   a Gentleman AND a Scholar! a.s. 1986 0 Dec 17 2014, 12:38pm
                               OHH!!! You meant mini SKIRTS!! That explains everything. I get it now. a.s. 1976 0 Dec 17 2014, 12:33pm
                         Collapse "Minions Tirith" the city of the small, yellow,goggle-wearing enemies of Sauron. // noWizardme 1974 1 Dec 17 2014, 7:30am
                               Thank you for that Kim 2055 0 Dec 18 2014, 6:36am
               In some way, I think it also humanises him.. Rembrethil 2074 0 Dec 18 2014, 10:05pm
           Collapse decoy rings noWizardme 2418 1 Dec 15 2014, 4:21pm
               We never hear of them... Rembrethil 2084 0 Dec 18 2014, 10:10pm
       Collapse Digging the archives. sador 4999 45 Dec 15 2014, 11:58am
           Collapse This chapter is the key to my understanding of Frodo's story a.s. 2445 44 Dec 15 2014, 12:32pm
               Collapse But Frodo, not Gandalf is "meant" to have the Ring noWizardme 2457 2 Dec 15 2014, 3:11pm
                   Great thoughts. Rembrethil 2077 0 Dec 18 2014, 10:28pm
                 Helpful Tolkien mythology primer... noWizardme 2047 0 Dec 19 2014, 9:45am
               Collapse Frodo's story CuriousG 2424 8 Dec 15 2014, 4:59pm
                   Collapse 'I am no Hero' Rembrethil 2093 7 Dec 18 2014, 10:49pm
                       Collapse "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil" a.s. 2036 6 Dec 19 2014, 1:24pm
                           Collapse I like the way that no meaning is forced upon the reader noWizardme 2025 4 Dec 19 2014, 2:16pm
                               Collapse I agree with every word! Rembrethil 2024 3 Dec 19 2014, 2:38pm
                                   Collapse I think you've hit on it CuriousG 2012 2 Dec 19 2014, 2:47pm
                                       Like life... Rembrethil 1990 0 Dec 19 2014, 3:02pm
                                       Tolkien thought it important to "reflect and contain +in solution+ elements of moral and religious truth (or error)" noWizardme 2004 0 Dec 19 2014, 3:10pm
                           Wholehearted agreement! Rembrethil 2002 0 Dec 19 2014, 2:41pm
               Collapse That's a really interesting bit of foreshadowing I think. FrogmortonJustice65 2424 2 Dec 15 2014, 5:59pm
                   Collapse Absolutely! It also does something else.... noWizardme 2157 1 Dec 16 2014, 11:07am
                       I love this sub-thread! Rembrethil 2060 0 Dec 19 2014, 5:00am
               Collapse why the Eagles can't just fly Frodo to Mt. Doom to drop the Ring in the Fire a.s. 2426 14 Dec 15 2014, 11:28pm
                   Collapse Hmmmmm.... Darkstone 2395 2 Dec 16 2014, 2:59am
                       Collapse the road to Rivendell is notorious for potholes? a.s. 2391 1 Dec 16 2014, 4:50am
                           Well, yeah... Darkstone 2380 0 Dec 16 2014, 5:10am
                   Collapse I think that taps into a main schema of Lord of the Rings noWizardme 2174 2 Dec 16 2014, 10:55am
                       Collapse well, what Frodo does MATTERS and he isn't hopeless a.s. 2159 1 Dec 16 2014, 12:23pm
                           I think that's exactly it - faith, or indomitable spirit noWizardme 2153 0 Dec 16 2014, 12:57pm
                   *tremendous* observation! CuriousG 2171 0 Dec 16 2014, 12:56pm
                   Collapse Wonderful thoughts! Rembrethil 2095 6 Dec 18 2014, 11:01pm
                       Collapse thanks, and I am really enjoying this conversation, BUT! a.s. 2085 5 Dec 19 2014, 1:02am
                           Collapse But me no buts... show me! squire 2082 1 Dec 19 2014, 1:18am
                               not into chapter leading mode yet. In fact... a.s. 2080 0 Dec 19 2014, 1:28am
                           I *think* this is the post Rem is referring to a.s... Brethil 2075 0 Dec 19 2014, 1:53am
                           Collapse Oh, I am sorry. Rembrethil 2044 1 Dec 19 2014, 3:11am
                               lol. I am rusty. no need to apologize! a.s. 2025 0 Dec 19 2014, 2:45pm
               That's a great observation SilentLion 2383 0 Dec 16 2014, 1:19am
               Collapse Of course... Darkstone 2180 9 Dec 16 2014, 5:50am
                   Collapse but WHAT??!! WHAT does it mean, man? a.s. 2167 8 Dec 16 2014, 12:32pm
                     Collapse "Badboy Ring Blaster and Annihilator" CuriousG 2164 2 Dec 16 2014, 1:05pm
                         Collapse The Ring abandoned Gollum because he wasn't doing anything - so, was Gollum a Ring-borer? // noWizardme 2150 1 Dec 16 2014, 1:35pm
                               ROFL! // CuriousG 2148 0 Dec 16 2014, 1:56pm
                       Collapse Germanic hero versus Romantic hero Darkstone 2188 4 Dec 16 2014, 2:28pm
                           OH. yes. a.s. 2166 0 Dec 16 2014, 2:55pm
                           Collapse I think the exact word "bearer" might be significant noWizardme 2153 2 Dec 16 2014, 2:56pm
                               Collapse Yes Darkstone 2146 1 Dec 16 2014, 3:15pm
                                 Gimli the Lock-bearer - It would not have the same effect to call him a 'Lock-keeper'. // noWizardme 2151 0 Dec 16 2014, 3:28pm
               Collapse On Gandalf cats16 2070 2 Dec 18 2014, 5:22am
                   Collapse very interesting, although I can't comment on Sarte a.s. 2047 1 Dec 18 2014, 1:08pm
                       Very well said. cats16 2084 0 Dec 19 2014, 4:01am
       "It is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury..." Darkstone 2443 0 Dec 15 2014, 4:50pm
       Sam Gamgee and the Green Dragon, and other affairs sador 2178 0 Dec 16 2014, 8:22am
       Just skimming the surface... Kerewyn 2173 0 Dec 16 2014, 12:42pm
       Collapse I'm here!!! Rembrethil 2137 1 Dec 16 2014, 2:49pm
         Hey guys, post faster, Rem is catching up ! // noWizardme 2148 0 Dec 16 2014, 3:20pm
       Oh my, Johnny-come-lately Bracegirdle 2015 0 Dec 16 2014, 6:41pm
       Collapse Bilbo and Frodo's adventurous side... Bracegirdle 1992 5 Dec 16 2014, 9:40pm
           Collapse The adventurous spirit CuriousG 2006 4 Dec 16 2014, 10:23pm
               Collapse Tooks vs Brandybucks Bracegirdle 2008 3 Dec 16 2014, 10:54pm
                   Collapse I tend to lump them together CuriousG 1994 2 Dec 17 2014, 12:09am
                       Collapse Makes sense Curious, Bracegirdle 1998 1 Dec 17 2014, 1:48am
                           "No Took has ever beat a Brandybuck for inquisitiveness" sador 2065 0 Dec 18 2014, 8:18am
       Tavern talk... Bracegirdle 1979 0 Dec 16 2014, 10:38pm
       Collapse Oof, so much to catch up on! // cats16 2086 1 Dec 18 2014, 2:27am
           IKR? There's only a million posts to read! :0 // Kim 2050 0 Dec 18 2014, 6:24am
       Collapse Just shamelessly putting a foot through the fast-closing doorway (and a question to the erudite) Lurker in the Mirk 1976 8 Dec 20 2014, 10:36am
           Collapse Given my obvvious disqualification to answer questions for the erudite, Let's have Aragorn answer that... noWizardme 1982 7 Dec 20 2014, 12:55pm
               Collapse Thanks, noWizardme Lurker in the Mirk 1983 6 Dec 20 2014, 1:37pm
                   I wonder... cats16 1970 0 Dec 20 2014, 6:15pm
                   Collapse A consequence of so many mixed-lifespan races? Brethil 2010 4 Dec 20 2014, 10:40pm
                       Collapse That's what I thought, too. squire 1978 3 Dec 20 2014, 11:23pm
                           Collapse Thanks, everyone for weighing in. One last question on this Lurker in the Mirk 1982 2 Dec 21 2014, 1:43am
                               Collapse trailing Gandalf noWizardme 1966 1 Dec 21 2014, 6:54pm
                                   oops- spotted a mistake in my previous post too late to edit it! noWizardme 2207 0 Dec 21 2014, 7:56pm
       Collapse This is one of my favorite chapters, Ethel Duath 2001 13 Dec 20 2014, 5:53pm
           Collapse Love that imagery, Ethel! cats16 1982 2 Dec 20 2014, 6:22pm
               Collapse Yes, at this point it's almost as if Ethel Duath 2022 1 Dec 20 2014, 10:35pm
                   Tolkien, indeed! // cats16 1986 0 Dec 21 2014, 12:41am
           Collapse Revealed, step by step noWizardme 2034 4 Dec 20 2014, 6:29pm
               Collapse Yes, you're right Ethel Duath 2023 3 Dec 20 2014, 8:17pm
                   Collapse Still discovering things myself after nearly 40 years noWizardme 2035 2 Dec 20 2014, 9:12pm
                       Collapse Slow is good--allows time for savoring. Ethel Duath 1994 1 Dec 20 2014, 10:34pm
                           We have some slow chapters ahead to enjoy... noWizardme 2003 0 Dec 20 2014, 10:42pm
           Collapse We have a "what's your favorite Tolkien quote" feature CuriousG 1982 4 Dec 20 2014, 11:47pm
               Collapse Why, thank you! Ethel Duath 1988 2 Dec 21 2014, 12:03am
                   Collapse Wonderful thoughts dear Mayor! Brethil 1969 1 Dec 21 2014, 5:13pm
                       Hmm, too late for that. Already Ethel Duath 1979 0 Dec 21 2014, 5:21pm
               Seconded! Lurker in the Mirk 1983 0 Dec 21 2014, 1:46am
       Collapse Another thought... cats16 2032 8 Dec 20 2014, 6:26pm
           Collapse Really sort of invalidates any significant redemption for Gollum Brethil 2022 7 Dec 20 2014, 10:33pm
               Collapse Gollum is NASTY but... noWizardme 2023 4 Dec 20 2014, 10:53pm
                 Yes, you are quite right... Brethil 2011 0 Dec 20 2014, 10:58pm
                   Collapse Funny you mention that cats16 2018 2 Dec 20 2014, 10:59pm
                       Collapse A mark of masterful characterization, is Gollum. // Brethil 1985 1 Dec 20 2014, 11:02pm
                           Well, all this big-Picture redemption and "it is fated to be" stuff... noWizardme 2007 0 Dec 20 2014, 11:24pm
               Quite true cats16 2024 0 Dec 20 2014, 10:56pm
               Yes, my thoughts exactly. Rembrethil 1982 0 Dec 21 2014, 4:33am

  Expand entire thread 'The Fellowship of the Ring' Discussion, Chapter One: A Long-Expected Party Rembrethil 38377 186 Dec 17 2014, 2:33pm Jump to last post in thread (by Rembrethil)

  Expand entire thread The Return of the King - Unofficial read through Eruonen 37750 183 Aug 14 2017, 5:26pm Jump to last post in thread (by sador)

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