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Expand entire thread Sticky: First Official Call for Submissions (please read since some changes since last week) TORn Amateur Symposium 213 14 Fri, 9:11pm Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)

  Expand entire thread Sticky: Silmarillion Discussion: chapter schedule and leaders CuriousG 440 8 Jun 9, 4:29pm Jump to last post in thread (by CuriousG)

  Expand entire thread Sticky: General notice re book discussions and the use of copyrighted materials Ataahua 30634 1 Jun 20 2007, 12:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by Wynnie)

  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to the Reading Room (-->Including links to old RR discussions!) Altaira 28543 0 Dec 28 2006, 3:11am Jump to last post in thread (by Altaira)

Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 24043 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:44pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

  Expand entire thread Silmarilion Discussion: Chapter 16 -- "Of Maeglin" Maciliel 4262 380 Sun, 10:27am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)

  Expand entire thread The Numenorean Kingdoms, part XI - bridge-film material? sador 8130 182 Feb 8 2009, 9:47pm Jump to last post in thread (by simplyaven)

  Expand entire thread Reading Room Culture Dreamdeer 10308 177 Mar 19 2009, 9:38pm Jump to last post in thread (by Idril Celebrindal)

  Collapse The Tale of Years (Appendix B): Part I – The 2nd Age, 1 -1600 Morthoron 880 160 Feb 23 2009, 6:42am Jump to last post in thread (by Eowyn of Penns Woods)
       Collapse My thoughts Dreamdeer 293 8 Feb 23 2009, 5:04pm
           Collapse Drawing the line squire 266 4 Feb 23 2009, 10:34pm
               Collapse Suddenly *I'm* the one looking for errors? Dreamdeer 238 3 Feb 24 2009, 3:48pm
                   Collapse I have no desire to be creamed like the Spanish, or anyone else. squire 195 2 Feb 25 2009, 12:24am
                       Mordor Tolkien Forever 167 0 Feb 25 2009, 12:42am
                       Excellent points! Dreamdeer 172 0 Feb 25 2009, 12:47am
           Collapse real world boxy mountains hanne 206 2 Feb 24 2009, 4:17pm
               I'm always a bit surprised Aunt Dora Baggins 124 0 Feb 25 2009, 5:36pm
               The best I could come up with Eowyn of Penns Woods 200 0 Mar 15 2009, 9:15pm
       "...any historical value it may possess must always be of secondary importance." Darkstone 286 0 Feb 23 2009, 6:24pm
       ANOTHR Wiped Out Post! Tolkien Forever 266 0 Feb 23 2009, 7:51pm
       Collapse Thoughts. Curious 275 147 Feb 23 2009, 10:42pm
           Collapse Hey, darken down! Stop having fun! Take this more seriously! squire 272 1 Feb 23 2009, 11:01pm
               Perhaps I am sensitive about the Reading Room's Curious 270 0 Feb 24 2009, 1:49am
           Collapse In addition... Morthoron 245 17 Feb 24 2009, 1:32am
               Collapse Was Annatar pretending to be an elf? Curious 246 8 Feb 24 2009, 6:32am
                   Collapse What 'Miscellaneous Spirits'? Tolkien Forever 220 7 Feb 24 2009, 2:05pm
                       Collapse It's just a theory. Curious 216 6 Feb 24 2009, 3:24pm
                           Collapse Never Heard That Tolkien Forever 179 2 Feb 24 2009, 8:01pm
                               Collapse Check Curious 147 1 Feb 25 2009, 7:53am
                                   Door Number Three Tolkien Forever 132 0 Feb 25 2009, 2:07pm
                           Collapse This is one of the most inexplicable editing decisions in the published Silmarillion Voronwë_the_Faithful 191 2 Feb 24 2009, 8:05pm
                               Wouldn't It Be Great Tolkien Forever 186 0 Feb 24 2009, 8:37pm
                               Very interesting!// Curious 169 0 Feb 24 2009, 9:51pm
               Collapse Not so implausible to me Dreamdeer 203 7 Feb 24 2009, 4:02pm
                   Collapse Hmmmm.... Morthoron 157 6 Feb 25 2009, 2:06am
                       Collapse Difficult Dreamdeer 148 5 Feb 25 2009, 4:04am
                           Collapse Tolkien was powerfully conflicted squire 152 4 Feb 25 2009, 4:32am
                               Collapse Ah, but... Dreamdeer 129 3 Feb 25 2009, 3:13pm
                                   Collapse Nonetheless.... Morthoron 117 2 Feb 25 2009, 3:53pm
                                       Still seems plausible to me... Dreamdeer 138 0 Feb 25 2009, 4:20pm
                                       Why Not? Tolkien Forever 116 0 Feb 25 2009, 5:02pm
           Collapse Some Thoughts About Some of Your Thoughts Voronwë_the_Faithful 246 2 Feb 24 2009, 4:34am
               The broader legendarium is a first class mess. Not the work of a niggling and perfectionist writer. squire 255 0 Feb 24 2009, 5:34am
               I am not "looking at the broader Curious 234 0 Feb 24 2009, 6:25am
           Collapse I don't get it. FarFromHome 240 123 Feb 24 2009, 8:51am
               Collapse Tolkien in his later years was not the literary equivalent of a dog chasing his tail Voronwë_the_Faithful 217 15 Feb 24 2009, 2:27pm
                   Collapse Morgoth's Ring is my favorite book in the HoME series, Curious 141 9 Feb 25 2009, 2:38pm
                       Collapse Actually, he never comtemplated eliminating the Two Trees Voronwë_the_Faithful 143 8 Feb 25 2009, 3:32pm
                           Collapse Perhaps the HoME stories you love Curious 114 7 Feb 25 2009, 6:18pm
                               Quite true Voronwë_the_Faithful 105 0 Feb 25 2009, 6:30pm
                               Collapse ?????? Tolkien Forever 148 3 Feb 26 2009, 12:54am
                                   Collapse We discussed this recently. Curious 169 2 Feb 26 2009, 2:04am
                                       Oh Boy.... Tolkien Forever 142 0 Feb 26 2009, 4:15am
                                       Enough.... Tolkien Forever 138 0 Feb 26 2009, 4:28am
                               Collapse Isn't calling an early 20th century English author "classist"... squire 157 1 Feb 26 2009, 1:13am
                                   Well, the emphasis of Curious 135 0 Feb 26 2009, 1:56am
                   Collapse Where would I find each of these stories? Curious 108 4 Feb 25 2009, 6:29pm
                       Collapse "The Wanderings of Húrin" is in HoMe XI. N.E. Brigand 108 2 Feb 25 2009, 7:56pm
                           Thanks! I'm not Curious 96 0 Feb 25 2009, 8:16pm
                           Among other unique features, that story has a *hero lawyer* and a trial scene! FYI // squire 99 0 Feb 25 2009, 10:34pm
                       Sorry for the delay Voronwë_the_Faithful 92 0 Feb 25 2009, 11:06pm
               Collapse I should stop talking about serious / not serious. And I didn't say "mere." Curious 231 106 Feb 24 2009, 3:02pm
                   Collapse "Mere" was probably my addition, I agree. FarFromHome 204 105 Feb 24 2009, 3:36pm
                       Collapse Letter #160, as Curious 194 104 Feb 24 2009, 6:49pm
                           Collapse Oh, *that* game... FarFromHome 117 103 Feb 26 2009, 10:20am
                               Collapse Not that real history works that way squire 129 1 Feb 26 2009, 11:24am
                                   Agreed. FarFromHome 114 0 Feb 26 2009, 12:00pm
                               Collapse And that's why I have bigger issues with you Curious 121 100 Feb 26 2009, 12:23pm
                                   Collapse Not at all. FarFromHome 120 67 Feb 26 2009, 1:05pm
                                       Collapse I have a bias Curious 114 66 Feb 26 2009, 5:10pm
                                           Collapse Well I'm glad... FarFromHome 100 65 Feb 26 2009, 6:18pm
                                               Collapse What, exactly, have you noticed? Curious 109 64 Feb 26 2009, 7:40pm
                                                   Collapse That's difficult to answer. FarFromHome 124 63 Feb 26 2009, 10:33pm
                                                       Collapse In the films, do we really witness those events? N.E. Brigand 131 1 Feb 26 2009, 10:38pm
                                                           We witness them FarFromHome 63 0 Mar 1 2009, 6:26pm
                                                       Collapse Yes, the book is hobbitcentric. Curious 144 60 Feb 26 2009, 11:26pm
                                                           Collapse Sounds good to me. FarFromHome 148 59 Mar 1 2009, 7:05pm
                                                               Collapse Gandalf, Gimli and Legolas, the hosts of Mordor. N.E. Brigand 142 51 Mar 1 2009, 7:31pm
                                                                   Collapse Myth of idealized heroes Dreamdeer 133 50 Mar 2 2009, 12:30am
                                                                       Collapse They may have foibles, but have any of them Curious 125 49 Mar 2 2009, 3:29pm
                                                                           Collapse Sin is relative Dreamdeer 130 45 Mar 2 2009, 3:52pm
                                                                               Collapse Hmm. Curious 112 44 Mar 2 2009, 4:54pm
  Collapse Are we on the same page? Dreamdeer 110 43 Mar 2 2009, 5:33pm
       Collapse How do we know N.E. Brigand 99 39 Mar 2 2009, 5:42pm
           Collapse Different intention Dreamdeer 91 38 Mar 2 2009, 6:18pm
               Collapse Who wants "better than average"? Curious 97 13 Mar 2 2009, 6:39pm
                   Collapse Matter of degree and opportunity Dreamdeer 115 12 Mar 3 2009, 4:23am
                       Collapse He also has divine and elven blood. Curious 105 11 Mar 3 2009, 11:23am
                           Collapse I think it's a bit more complicated. FarFromHome 117 9 Mar 3 2009, 12:34pm
                               Collapse Semi-divine, Curious 110 8 Mar 3 2009, 4:18pm
                                   Collapse Well, at least the female ancestors knew. Darkstone 114 3 Mar 3 2009, 5:36pm
                                       Collapse Dirhael is male.// Curious 78 2 Mar 3 2009, 5:45pm
                                           Collapse I know. Darkstone 81 1 Mar 3 2009, 6:09pm
                                               I see your point. Although Curious 83 0 Mar 3 2009, 6:56pm
                                   Collapse I can't see anything FarFromHome 84 3 Mar 3 2009, 5:42pm
                                       Collapse Is Gandalf human, then, by your definition? Curious 81 2 Mar 3 2009, 5:50pm
                                           Collapse Yes. // FarFromHome 77 1 Mar 3 2009, 6:15pm
                                               That explains alot. Curious 75 0 Mar 3 2009, 7:00pm
                           Philosopher-King Dreamdeer 61 0 Mar 4 2009, 2:04am
               Collapse Faith in Christ, and the ennoblement of the noble squire 84 23 Mar 2 2009, 7:26pm
                   Very interesting point! Curious 71 0 Mar 2 2009, 11:03pm
                   Collapse Normalcy Dreamdeer 127 1 Mar 3 2009, 4:34am
                       Heroes may inspire us, but Curious 103 0 Mar 3 2009, 11:32am
                   Collapse Spiderman comes across as human too. Curious 84 19 Mar 3 2009, 5:43pm
                       Collapse Nice point about the Ring FarFromHome 82 3 Mar 3 2009, 5:49pm
                           Collapse Except Curious 82 2 Mar 3 2009, 5:54pm
                               Collapse Agreed. FarFromHome 100 1 Mar 3 2009, 6:23pm
                                   I don't think so. Curious 82 0 Mar 3 2009, 6:48pm
                       Collapse Aragorn as Elessar does not receive the Power of the Ring squire 86 14 Mar 3 2009, 5:51pm
                           Collapse That line can be fuzzy. Curious 84 12 Mar 3 2009, 6:02pm
                               Collapse Well, he is a King, for gods' sake. squire 83 1 Mar 3 2009, 7:12pm
                                   No, not sinister at all. Curious 76 0 Mar 3 2009, 7:31pm
                               Collapse Police Dreamdeer 102 9 Mar 4 2009, 2:19am
                                   Collapse Where is the inquest Curious 103 8 Mar 4 2009, 2:23am
                                       Collapse Something subtler Dreamdeer 113 4 Mar 4 2009, 2:28am
                                           Collapse I find your point more persuasive than squire's. Curious 122 3 Mar 4 2009, 2:13pm
                                               Collapse Thank you! Dreamdeer 74 2 Mar 4 2009, 3:52pm
                                                   Collapse Is the Guard a police force? Curious 72 1 Mar 4 2009, 6:05pm
                                                       I concede both points... Dreamdeer 69 0 Mar 5 2009, 4:32am
                                       Collapse So what? squire 122 2 Mar 4 2009, 3:10am
                                           Collapse Sure I can imagine it. Curious 93 1 Mar 4 2009, 11:14am
                                               That explains a lot. squire 99 0 Mar 4 2009, 11:40am
                           Good points--important distinction! // Dreamdeer 63 0 Mar 4 2009, 2:10am
       Collapse I won't repeat Curious 100 2 Mar 2 2009, 6:04pm
           Collapse Agreed. Dreamdeer 83 1 Mar 2 2009, 6:21pm
               Yep, there's a bright line between them.// Curious 84 0 Mar 2 2009, 6:32pm
                                                                           Collapse My edits vanished Dreamdeer 113 2 Mar 2 2009, 4:02pm
                                                                               Oops--they didn't disappear! Dreamdeer 118 0 Mar 2 2009, 4:04pm
                                                                               Tolkien's characters *are* believable within Curious 114 0 Mar 2 2009, 5:16pm
                                                               Collapse Think of hobbits as a lens, not as authors squire 147 5 Mar 1 2009, 7:40pm
                                                                   Collapse That works for me. FarFromHome 99 4 Mar 2 2009, 5:28pm
                                                                       FYI: "mythology for England" isn't Tolkien's phrase. N.E. Brigand 102 0 Mar 2 2009, 5:46pm
                                                                       Collapse I take back the "gag" remark squire 83 2 Mar 2 2009, 6:54pm
                                                                           Fair enough. FarFromHome 76 0 Mar 2 2009, 7:13pm
                                                                           I tend to agree with the 'hobbit-lens' rather than 'hobbit-author' distinction you make sador 95 0 Mar 2 2009, 7:28pm
                                                               I discussed most of these points Curious 128 0 Mar 2 2009, 12:16am
                                   Collapse What's the big deal? Tolkien Forever 114 6 Feb 26 2009, 2:01pm
                                       Collapse I don't have any problem with your approach. Curious 102 5 Feb 26 2009, 5:24pm
                                           Collapse Dog Chasing the Tail Tolkien Forever 127 4 Feb 26 2009, 10:45pm
                                               Collapse Can we not take this subject any further? N.E. Brigand 130 2 Feb 26 2009, 11:05pm
                                                   Agreed. Curious 118 0 Feb 26 2009, 11:09pm
                                                   I agree totaslly Tolkien Forever 114 0 Feb 26 2009, 11:14pm
                                               No, I hate Tolkien. Curious 123 0 Feb 26 2009, 11:07pm
                                   Collapse Enchantment and Disillusionment Dreamdeer 111 24 Feb 26 2009, 5:16pm
                                       Collapse I like finding a middle ground. Curious 101 20 Feb 26 2009, 5:37pm
                                           Collapse Thank you for a gentlemanly response... Dreamdeer 100 19 Feb 26 2009, 5:56pm
                                               Collapse It's possible. Curious 98 18 Feb 26 2009, 6:21pm
                                                   Collapse It's not unpublished. FarFromHome 105 17 Feb 26 2009, 6:33pm
                                                       Collapse Written before LOTR was published. N.E. Brigand 103 16 Feb 26 2009, 6:45pm
                                                           Collapse You are quite correct Voronwë_the_Faithful 88 15 Feb 26 2009, 9:13pm
                                                               Collapse I don't think Tolkien lived in his own fantasy land all the time. squire 86 14 Feb 26 2009, 10:08pm
                                                                   Collapse You mistake my meaning Voronwë_the_Faithful 126 12 Feb 26 2009, 10:27pm
                                                                       Collapse I get you now squire 114 11 Feb 26 2009, 11:35pm
                                                                           Collapse I agree with both you and Curious about the narrator of LOTR Voronwë_the_Faithful 105 10 Feb 26 2009, 11:42pm
                                                                               Collapse I'll have to disagree... Morthoron 117 9 Feb 27 2009, 2:00am
  Collapse Who saw and reported on the "most tragic moment" in LOTR? N.E. Brigand 109 6 Feb 27 2009, 2:11am
       Collapse Very true... Morthoron 103 5 Feb 27 2009, 2:39am
           Collapse Hmm. N.E. Brigand 126 4 Feb 27 2009, 2:55am
               Collapse Not quite that. FarFromHome 71 3 Mar 1 2009, 4:33pm
                   Collapse Do you really think Voronwë_the_Faithful 68 2 Mar 1 2009, 4:49pm
                       Well, it's certainly arguable squire 68 0 Mar 1 2009, 5:05pm
                       Sure. N.E. Brigand 67 0 Mar 1 2009, 5:09pm
  Collapse Focusing on the hobbits protagonists is not the same Curious 96 1 Feb 27 2009, 8:13am
       In the Prologue, Merry is considered to be a bit of an author sador 94 0 Feb 27 2009, 8:29am
                                                                   And I would argue Curious 127 0 Feb 26 2009, 10:57pm
                                       Collapse What if your premise is wrong? N.E. Brigand 106 2 Feb 26 2009, 6:18pm
                                           Collapse Yes Dreamdeer 98 1 Feb 27 2009, 4:27am
                                               Harder and more elusive. N.E. Brigand 95 0 Feb 27 2009, 5:02am
       Now it was my turn! sador 217 0 Feb 24 2009, 1:43pm

  Expand entire thread need help filling in some blanks please (First Age, Elros, Elrond, Gil-galad, etc.) erynion 4860 159 Jun 9, 9:36am Jump to last post in thread (by wildespace)

  Expand entire thread Do Elves have free will? visualweasel 12740 156 Mar 23 2009, 3:18pm Jump to last post in thread (by visualweasel)

  Expand entire thread It's Tolkien Reading Day! Post your ABCs of Tolkien here. N.E. Brigand 42535 148 Apr 4 2010, 7:52pm Jump to last post in thread (by Compa_Mighty)

  Expand entire thread Volunteers for next few Silmarillion chapters? CuriousG 1712 141 Apr 18, 10:52am Jump to last post in thread (by Maciliel)

  Expand entire thread **CoH Discussion** I. The Childhood of Túrin: 1. Ancestry squire 8303 134 Jun 28 2007, 5:47am Jump to last post in thread (by Daughter of Nienna)

  Expand entire thread Silmarillion Chapter 13: Of the Return of the Noldor Brethil 2223 132 May 22, 1:10pm Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)

  Expand entire thread Some confusing (to me) issues about the Power(s) of the Ring and Isildur Brethil 4066 129 Apr 3, 6:04pm Jump to last post in thread (by CuriousG)

  Expand entire thread Book I, Chapter 11, “A Knife in the Dark”: Are Black Riders Wimps? Curious 11592 128 Sep 4 2010, 9:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by Elizabeth)

  Expand entire thread Tolkien at UVM Istar Indigo 4398 125 Jun 11 2009, 3:56pm Jump to last post in thread (by Curious)

  Expand entire thread What exactly is Tom Bombadil? FlamingDovahkiin 2166 110 May 2, 4:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by Aragalen the Green)

  Expand entire thread Silmarilion Discussion: Chapter 12 -- "Of Men," Part 2: The Biosphere of Arda Maciliel 1765 109 May 18, 5:47pm Jump to last post in thread (by Annael)
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