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  Expand entire thread Sticky: Tolkien @ UVM Istar Indigo 563 7 Aug 9, 3:46am Jump to last post in thread (by Rembrethil)

  Expand entire thread Sticky: General notice re book discussions and the use of copyrighted materials Ataahua 35304 1 Jun 20 2007, 12:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by Wynnie)

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Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 28318 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:44pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

  Expand entire thread Silmarilion Discussion: Chapter 16 -- "Of Maeglin" Maciliel 6702 380 Jun 16 2013, 10:27am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)

  Expand entire thread Silmarillion Discussion, Chapter 19: Of Beren and Luthien: Love, etc. CuriousG 8873 343 Jul 8 2013, 8:00pm Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)

  Collapse The Numenorean Kingdoms, part XI - bridge-film material? sador 1140 182 Feb 1 2009, 8:25am Jump to last post in thread (by simplyaven)
       Collapse Would LotR be better without the appendices? Curious 457 104 Feb 1 2009, 12:15pm
           Collapse A good argument squire 398 8 Feb 1 2009, 2:59pm
               I agree Voronwë_the_Faithful 352 0 Feb 1 2009, 3:49pm
               Collapse Sinister Nazi Tosh. Well two out of three ain't bad! Pryderi 373 4 Feb 1 2009, 9:52pm
                   I wouldn't call Ataahua 352 0 Feb 1 2009, 11:35pm
                   Collapse I wouldn't go so far Curious 317 2 Feb 2 2009, 2:00pm
                       Collapse Agreement and Clarification Dreamdeer 237 1 Feb 2 2009, 8:45pm
                           The Breelanders are related Curious 221 0 Feb 2 2009, 9:12pm
               And yet, I don't read the appendices a.s. 358 0 Feb 2 2009, 11:59am
               Isn't that a backhanded compliment? Curious 331 0 Feb 2 2009, 1:45pm
           Collapse Aragorn is not a pure-blooded Númenórean. N.E. Brigand 362 2 Feb 1 2009, 3:41pm
               Collapse Isn't it bizarre that Aragorn's mixed blood Curious 279 1 Feb 2 2009, 5:20pm
                   Do we know that Aragorn's northern ancestors didn't marry outside the tribe? N.E. Brigand 240 0 Feb 2 2009, 5:41pm
           Collapse Since it's halftime Elros 366 19 Feb 2 2009, 2:05am
               Collapse Would it irk you N.E. Brigand 366 9 Feb 2 2009, 4:20am
                   Collapse I guess it depends where... sador 321 4 Feb 2 2009, 7:57am
                       Collapse Sorry for jumping the gun. Your Curious 304 2 Feb 2 2009, 2:28pm
                           Collapse That's ok, of course sador 285 1 Feb 2 2009, 2:40pm
                               Which is another reason Curious 276 0 Feb 2 2009, 3:00pm
                       Agreement! Dreamdeer 214 0 Feb 2 2009, 8:36pm
                   Collapse I will concede Elros 221 3 Feb 2 2009, 6:34pm
                       Collapse Racism requires progeny. Curious 243 2 Feb 2 2009, 6:53pm
                           Collapse Tolkien would be appalled FarFromHome 210 1 Feb 3 2009, 2:28pm
                               But Tolkien also called LotR Curious 218 0 Feb 3 2009, 7:09pm
               Collapse No offense taken. Except that you apparently don't like Curious 329 2 Feb 2 2009, 2:12pm
                   Collapse The E Street Band Elros 230 1 Feb 2 2009, 6:44pm
                       The only relevance... Dreamdeer 217 0 Feb 2 2009, 9:06pm
               Collapse The Noldor Dreamdeer 215 5 Feb 2 2009, 8:32pm
                   Collapse Sam is still a brown-skinned hero. Beren IV 184 2 Feb 3 2009, 12:13am
                       That's an interesting perspective! // Dreamdeer 170 0 Feb 3 2009, 2:01am
                       All men are brothers. Darkstone 219 0 Feb 3 2009, 6:23pm
                   Collapse Elros the racist Elros 199 1 Feb 3 2009, 1:57am
                       The phrase "Drunk as a lord" comes to mind... Dreamdeer 178 0 Feb 3 2009, 2:09am
           Collapse Not for me. White Gull 306 57 Feb 2 2009, 5:32pm
               Now there's an argument I can get behind. Curious 233 0 Feb 2 2009, 5:41pm
               Collapse I'll second that! simplyaven 261 55 Feb 3 2009, 4:33am
                   Collapse Classism is more Curious 203 1 Feb 3 2009, 1:08pm
                       Classism is a hot button in countries with minorities too :) simplyaven 191 0 Feb 4 2009, 3:08am
                   If I had that attitude... Dreamdeer 199 0 Feb 3 2009, 5:16pm
                   Collapse Cooling down somewhat... Dreamdeer 197 51 Feb 3 2009, 5:28pm
                       Collapse Actually I've seen it the other way around so we are not that far simplyaven 211 50 Feb 4 2009, 3:34am
                           Collapse The things I read affected me. Dreamdeer 164 49 Feb 4 2009, 5:04am
                               Collapse This is a whole different story and very sad simplyaven 152 48 Feb 4 2009, 3:19pm
                                   Collapse You've never been exposed to Westerns? Curious 160 47 Feb 4 2009, 3:55pm
                                       Collapse I was talking about literature simplyaven 213 46 Feb 4 2009, 4:15pm
                                           Collapse I love Grimm's Fairy Tales, just as Curious 192 45 Feb 4 2009, 4:46pm
                                               Collapse Justified mentioning of evil things simplyaven 199 44 Feb 4 2009, 4:55pm
                                                   Collapse I judge Curious 209 43 Feb 4 2009, 5:15pm
                                                       Collapse Ah hm simplyaven 226 2 Feb 4 2009, 5:37pm
                                                           Collapse Regarding children, Curious 196 1 Feb 5 2009, 10:09pm
                                                               Exactly... simplyaven 195 0 Feb 5 2009, 11:31pm
                                                       Collapse Wicked stepmothers Dreamdeer 185 39 Feb 4 2009, 6:08pm
                                                           Collapse Interesting! Curious 200 38 Feb 5 2009, 10:03pm
                                                               Collapse "Grimm's Grimmest"... Dreamdeer 190 37 Feb 6 2009, 12:20am
                                                                   Thanks for this! I'll buy this book. // simplyaven 165 0 Feb 6 2009, 2:16am
                                                                   Collapse Coincidentally FarFromHome 155 34 Feb 6 2009, 7:08pm
                                                                       Collapse Everyone has a choice... simplyaven 141 3 Feb 6 2009, 7:37pm
                                                                           Collapse I agree FarFromHome 173 2 Feb 6 2009, 9:56pm
                                                                               Exactly! simplyaven 184 0 Feb 7 2009, 1:03am
                                                                               Scary Dreamdeer 167 0 Feb 7 2009, 2:21am
                                                                       Collapse Alexander the Great Dreamdeer 164 29 Feb 6 2009, 8:39pm
                                                                           Collapse Alexander Jettorex 139 23 Feb 6 2009, 9:28pm
                                                                               Collapse Ah, that's "my" guy ;) simplyaven 179 4 Feb 7 2009, 1:07am
  Collapse Ah, so you are Macedonian? or Bulgarian? Dreamdeer 179 1 Feb 7 2009, 3:00am
       Both plus some more simplyaven 160 0 Feb 7 2009, 4:11am
  Collapse your Macedonian? Jettorex 160 1 Feb 7 2009, 3:37am
       See my post to Dreamdeer :) // simplyaven 146 0 Feb 7 2009, 4:19am
                                                                               Collapse Alexander had two. Dreamdeer 166 17 Feb 7 2009, 2:11am
  Collapse Wander please Jettorex 148 16 Feb 7 2009, 4:24am
       Collapse Who really killed Phillip? Dreamdeer 144 14 Feb 7 2009, 7:30am
           Collapse the story i heard... Jettorex 141 13 Feb 7 2009, 2:05pm
               Collapse Yes, that did happen... Dreamdeer 140 12 Feb 7 2009, 5:59pm
                   Collapse We're talking about Aragorn, right? Curious 136 8 Feb 7 2009, 7:08pm
                       Significant indeed! Dreamdeer 130 0 Feb 7 2009, 7:30pm
                       Collapse Alexander the Northern Star? How does it work? simplyaven 136 6 Feb 7 2009, 8:31pm
                           Collapse Just trying to Curious 173 5 Feb 8 2009, 12:10pm
                               Collapse We study Alexander, not Cyrus, because squire 158 1 Feb 8 2009, 1:19pm
                                   Is adding to that mythology Curious 159 0 Feb 8 2009, 2:25pm
                               Collapse I don't know about the education you describe but... simplyaven 130 2 Feb 8 2009, 4:15pm
                                   Collapse In regards to Tolkien and Greece... Morthoron 148 1 Feb 8 2009, 5:09pm
                                       Most probably simplyaven 341 0 Feb 8 2009, 9:47pm
                   Collapse Bucephalos could have been a big one + some legends simplyaven 154 2 Feb 7 2009, 8:23pm
                       Collapse "The poison was water" Dreamdeer 157 1 Feb 8 2009, 4:13am
                           I can't think of such connection simplyaven 157 0 Feb 8 2009, 5:01am
       I second Dreamdeer on this simplyaven 127 0 Feb 8 2009, 12:45am
                                                                           Collapse People are condemning Alexander? For being a ruthless conqueror? squire 195 4 Feb 6 2009, 10:41pm
                                                                               Alexander first or...? Dreamdeer 179 0 Feb 7 2009, 2:44am
                                                                               Collapse Gondor! Gondor! (You crossed the border.) // N.E. Brigand 148 2 Feb 7 2009, 4:46am
  Collapse Huh? oh... squire 194 1 Feb 7 2009, 5:32am
       *applause* Nicely done! / Ataahua 126 0 Feb 7 2009, 8:19pm
                                                                   I'm opting for the Annotated Grimm's Curious 151 0 Feb 6 2009, 7:37pm
           Collapse "All my father's writings have appendices." Darkstone 279 8 Feb 2 2009, 11:00pm
               Collapse Thank you! Dreamdeer 183 7 Feb 3 2009, 1:59am
                   Collapse Kissin' cousins squire 230 6 Feb 3 2009, 2:44am
                       Collapse a question for those discussing race/ism... batik 235 5 Feb 3 2009, 3:02am
                           Collapse It depends on what you want Dreamdeer 191 1 Feb 3 2009, 4:48pm
                               thanks for the input--- batik 168 0 Feb 4 2009, 2:41am
                           Collapse Personally I check multiple boxes. Darkstone 202 2 Feb 3 2009, 5:59pm
                               Collapse My grand-daughter writes in "human" sevilodorf 170 1 Feb 4 2009, 4:29am
                                   Dunno if I could get away with that. Darkstone 202 0 Feb 4 2009, 4:13pm
           Collapse I don't read the Appendices, and yet FarFromHome 289 1 Feb 3 2009, 9:33am
               Excellent post// Elros 219 0 Feb 3 2009, 12:29pm
           Collapse "Well-intentioned racialism survives." N.E. Brigand 162 2 Feb 5 2009, 6:38pm
               Collapse I am a troublemaker, it seems. Curious 156 1 Feb 5 2009, 7:38pm
                   Disturbing the comfortable? N.E. Brigand 157 0 Feb 5 2009, 7:52pm
       Collapse Racist, not Radical Ghills 350 67 Feb 2 2009, 7:44am
           Collapse But race and lineage were less important Curious 291 8 Feb 2 2009, 2:05pm
               Collapse Not necesarily. Hobbit culture = quiet context culture, which is unique in LOTR Ghills 322 7 Feb 2 2009, 3:02pm
                   Collapse I did say Curious 290 6 Feb 2 2009, 3:48pm
                       Collapse Hobbit Bloodlines Dreamdeer 213 5 Feb 2 2009, 8:56pm
                           It's certainly important to the hobbits -- ridiculously so Curious 199 0 Feb 2 2009, 9:24pm
                           Collapse Did he? sador 196 3 Feb 2 2009, 10:07pm
                               Collapse Oh dear me! Dreamdeer 209 2 Feb 2 2009, 10:27pm
                                   Well, you had me going. Curious 189 0 Feb 2 2009, 11:30pm
                                   Let's just say... FarFromHome 206 0 Feb 3 2009, 1:47pm
           Collapse This is fantasy, folks. Beren IV 273 57 Feb 2 2009, 4:23pm
               Collapse Why not? Curious 307 56 Feb 2 2009, 4:48pm
                   Collapse Racism Beren IV 227 55 Feb 2 2009, 7:20pm
                       Collapse Race is a hot-button issue today. Curious 205 54 Feb 2 2009, 8:56pm
                           Collapse Another thing we can agree on Curious Elros 205 53 Feb 3 2009, 2:18am
                               Collapse We need to understand where Tolkien fits today Ghills 227 52 Feb 3 2009, 3:14pm
                                   Collapse I guess I better edit my biography Elros 198 51 Feb 4 2009, 12:52pm
                                       This is a whole different conversation, but Curious 167 0 Feb 4 2009, 1:59pm
                                       Collapse Ramping down the words Dreamdeer 179 48 Feb 4 2009, 6:02pm
                                           Collapse Environmental depredations Beren IV 200 3 Feb 4 2009, 6:32pm
                                               Collapse We're in good company Dreamdeer 184 2 Feb 4 2009, 7:23pm
                                                   Tolkien wrote a poem about drugged elephants. N.E. Brigand 168 0 Feb 4 2009, 8:11pm
                                                   But do they cause extinctions? Beren IV 180 0 Feb 4 2009, 8:18pm
                                           Collapse I guess I will just never understand Elros 187 43 Feb 4 2009, 7:29pm
                                               Collapse Distinctions Dreamdeer 181 42 Feb 4 2009, 8:14pm
                                                   Collapse Tell me something i don't know Elros 172 41 Feb 4 2009, 10:01pm
                                                       Collapse Is Aragorn better than everyone else because he's Númenórean? N.E. Brigand 186 17 Feb 4 2009, 10:57pm
                                                           They do indeed! Elros 188 0 Feb 5 2009, 1:31am
                                                           Collapse MOS is Númenórean. Darkstone 140 15 Feb 5 2009, 2:34pm
                                                               Collapse Better does not Curious 164 14 Feb 5 2009, 3:54pm
                                                                   Collapse Tortoise versus hare. Darkstone 180 13 Feb 5 2009, 5:38pm
                                                                       Collapse But the tortoise is secretly a hare. N.E. Brigand 162 1 Feb 5 2009, 5:55pm
                                                                           Exactly! Darkstone 147 0 Feb 5 2009, 6:15pm
                                                                       Great post! simplyaven 152 0 Feb 5 2009, 6:44pm
                                                                       Collapse Beowulf's an interesting comparison. Curious 169 7 Feb 5 2009, 6:45pm
                                                                           Collapse Well Darkstone 232 3 Feb 5 2009, 7:45pm
                                                                               Collapse How so? Curious 157 2 Feb 5 2009, 8:19pm
  Collapse Well!! Darkstone 174 1 Feb 5 2009, 8:42pm
       Wonderfully subversive, I meant. Curious 201 0 Feb 5 2009, 10:00pm
                                                                           Collapse Farmer Giles of Ham Dreamdeer 186 2 Feb 6 2009, 12:17am
                                                                               Collapse Not so late. N.E. Brigand 184 1 Feb 6 2009, 12:33am
  My mistake. Dreamdeer 185 0 Feb 6 2009, 12:39am
                                                                       Collapse You illustrate my point... Dreamdeer 190 1 Feb 5 2009, 11:54pm
                                                                           Yep Darkstone 171 0 Feb 6 2009, 2:46am
                                                       Collapse What does the First Age Curious 165 2 Feb 4 2009, 11:08pm
                                                           Collapse Sorry to get you involved again Curious Elros 159 1 Feb 5 2009, 1:14am
                                                               Oh, I don't think he minds. N.E. Brigand 178 0 Feb 6 2009, 4:30am
                                                       Easy now... Dreamdeer 164 0 Feb 5 2009, 4:55am
                                                       Collapse We aren't talking about you Ghills 160 18 Feb 5 2009, 4:11pm
                                                           Collapse Not true simplyaven 167 17 Feb 5 2009, 4:34pm
                                                               Collapse Respectfully beg to differ Ghills 157 1 Feb 5 2009, 5:03pm
                                                                   We'll have to agree to disagree simplyaven 157 0 Feb 5 2009, 5:31pm
                                                               Collapse Since LotR is already denounced Curious 176 14 Feb 5 2009, 5:03pm
                                                                   Collapse Farther back than you know. Which is a point. a.s. 274 8 Feb 5 2009, 5:44pm
                                                                       1849 Darkstone 158 0 Feb 5 2009, 6:03pm
                                                                       Collapse Fair enough. I was trying to Curious 150 5 Feb 5 2009, 6:24pm
                                                                           Collapse Yes, And Gone With The Wind was popular, too. a.s. 160 4 Feb 5 2009, 6:33pm
                                                                               Collapse And not just the dominant race. Dreamdeer 195 3 Feb 6 2009, 12:14am
  Wow Beren IV 175 0 Feb 6 2009, 2:57am
  I just saw this post of yours.. Jettorex 187 0 Feb 6 2009, 9:36pm
  That was me... FarFromHome 180 0 Feb 6 2009, 10:17pm
                                                                       Thank you! // Dreamdeer 197 0 Feb 5 2009, 11:56pm
                                                                   Collapse Being denounced is no indicator of anything... FarFromHome 186 4 Feb 5 2009, 5:56pm
                                                                       Collapse Another unconscious prejudice? N.E. Brigand 155 1 Feb 5 2009, 6:06pm
                                                                           I hadn't seen a.s.'s post FarFromHome 159 0 Feb 5 2009, 6:18pm
                                                                       when one race alone *benefits* from "blood line", that is racism at work. a.s. 167 0 Feb 5 2009, 6:19pm
                                                                       Do they still lead? Dreamdeer 184 0 Feb 6 2009, 12:00am
                                       Did not mean to give offense Ghills 148 0 Feb 5 2009, 3:53pm
       Princess Finduilas of Dol Amroth Darkstone 271 0 Feb 2 2009, 5:48pm
       Do John Noble and Viggo Mortensen look alike? N.E. Brigand 258 0 Feb 2 2009, 5:51pm
       Collapse Eurocentricity a.s. 209 6 Feb 4 2009, 10:32pm
           Collapse It's good you're back! sador 178 4 Feb 5 2009, 8:01am
               possibly. Remember, I don't read the appendices much. :-) a.s. 171 0 Feb 5 2009, 5:14pm
               Collapse Umbar, not Harad, I think Ghills 203 2 Feb 5 2009, 10:26pm
                   Collapse In the Akallabeth sador 184 1 Feb 6 2009, 7:34am
                       I stand corrected Ghills 154 0 Feb 6 2009, 3:57pm
           Thank you... Ghills 200 0 Feb 5 2009, 10:38pm

  Expand entire thread Reading Room Culture Dreamdeer 10842 177 Mar 19 2009, 9:38pm Jump to last post in thread (by Idril Celebrindal)

  Expand entire thread The Tale of Years (Appendix B): Part I – The 2nd Age, 1 -1600 Morthoron 5297 160 Mar 15 2009, 9:15pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eowyn of Penns Woods)

  Expand entire thread need help filling in some blanks please (First Age, Elros, Elrond, Gil-galad, etc.) erynion 9794 159 Jun 9 2013, 9:36am Jump to last post in thread (by wildespace)

  Expand entire thread Do Elves have free will? visualweasel 13182 156 Mar 23 2009, 3:18pm Jump to last post in thread (by visualweasel)

  Expand entire thread **Unfinished Tales Discussion - Disaster of the Gladden Fields noWizardme 4183 154 Mar 6, 8:28am Jump to last post in thread (by Plurmo)

  Expand entire thread It's Tolkien Reading Day! Post your ABCs of Tolkien here. N.E. Brigand 46334 148 Apr 4 2010, 7:52pm Jump to last post in thread (by Compa_Mighty)

  Expand entire thread Volunteers for next few Silmarillion chapters? CuriousG 2001 141 Apr 18 2013, 10:52am Jump to last post in thread (by Maciliel)

  Expand entire thread **CoH Discussion** I. The Childhood of Túrin: 1. Ancestry squire 8616 134 Jun 28 2007, 5:47am Jump to last post in thread (by Daughter of Nienna)

  Expand entire thread Silmarillion Chapter 13: Of the Return of the Noldor Brethil 7397 132 May 22 2013, 1:10pm Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)

  Expand entire thread Some confusing (to me) issues about the Power(s) of the Ring and Isildur Brethil 9587 129 Apr 3 2013, 6:04pm Jump to last post in thread (by CuriousG)

  Expand entire thread New Reading Discussion anytime soon? Nuradar 2339 128 Sep 15 2013, 11:19pm Jump to last post in thread (by Hamfast Gamgee)

  Expand entire thread Book I, Chapter 11, “A Knife in the Dark”: Are Black Riders Wimps? Curious 12687 128 Sep 4 2010, 9:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by Elizabeth)
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