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  Collapse Tolkien Estate HATES these movies? DemoElite 21843 244 Aug 18 2012, 3:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by JWPlatt)
       well Lusitano 19142 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:39pm
       Collapse Christopher Tolkien has every right to hate the films Shelob'sAppetite 19559 102 Aug 18 2012, 3:40pm
           Collapse Wasn't something written that Christopher Refused to see Any of it. Bombadil 19215 1 Aug 18 2012, 3:44pm
               Yes, he has Solicitr 13570 0 Sep 5 2012, 5:15pm
           Collapse As far as I know macfalk 19101 27 Aug 18 2012, 3:45pm
               Collapse In a recent interview Shelob'sAppetite 19190 26 Aug 18 2012, 3:49pm
                   Collapse Source? macfalk 18872 25 Aug 18 2012, 3:51pm
                       See this thread DanielLB 18916 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:54pm
                       Le Monde Lacrimae Rerum 18732 0 Aug 18 2012, 3:57pm
                       Collapse From July of this year in Le Monde Shelob'sAppetite 18894 18 Aug 18 2012, 3:59pm
                           Collapse LOL... I respect CT, I do, but I find his opinion rather myopic! Earl 18907 15 Aug 18 2012, 4:04pm
                               We are all 20 at heart.// Kangi Ska 11983 0 Aug 19 2012, 1:50am
                               Collapse *nods knowingly* This is something grammaboodawg 12158 9 Aug 19 2012, 1:24pm
                                   Collapse You're not being minimized and ignored Shelob'sAppetite 12228 8 Aug 19 2012, 4:16pm
                                       Validation JWPlatt 12013 0 Aug 19 2012, 4:27pm
                                       Collapse The issue isn't liking vs. not liking in this case. Elizabeth 11537 1 Aug 19 2012, 6:50pm
                                           *high five* Yeppers :) grammaboodawg 11718 0 Aug 19 2012, 10:37pm
                                       Collapse Well... grammaboodawg 10928 4 Aug 19 2012, 10:42pm
                                           Collapse Did C. Tolkien say it was aimed at young males? imin 10764 3 Aug 19 2012, 11:46pm
                                               Collapse That that I'm aware of. grammaboodawg 10815 1 Aug 20 2012, 1:55am
                                                   Oh ok imin 10811 0 Aug 20 2012, 7:44am
                                               No. geordie 10720 0 Aug 20 2012, 6:11am
                               Collapse Can somebody say... Patty 10701 3 Aug 20 2012, 3:39pm
                                   Collapse It seems to me Shelob'sAppetite 10639 2 Aug 20 2012, 4:01pm
                                       Collapse A decent number... Patty 10646 1 Aug 20 2012, 6:28pm
                                           Why would that cause me offense? Shelob'sAppetite 12655 0 Aug 20 2012, 7:27pm
                           I find that quote highly amusing. Beutlin 11806 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:33pm
                           amusing comment Lusitano 11809 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:43pm
                       Collapse Source JWPlatt 11661 3 Aug 18 2012, 5:11pm
                           Collapse Great conversation... DemoElite 11662 2 Aug 18 2012, 5:41pm
                               hmmm Wandering Ranger 11576 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:49pm
                               We're looking at this the wrong way DanielLB 11528 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:09pm
           Collapse I half agree with you! DanielLB 17740 51 Aug 18 2012, 3:49pm
               Collapse well Lusitano 17547 5 Aug 18 2012, 4:01pm
                   Collapse He doesn't "understand many things" Shelob'sAppetite 17678 3 Aug 18 2012, 4:03pm
                       Collapse Shelob Lusitano 11866 2 Aug 18 2012, 4:24pm
                           Collapse I don't mind criticism of C. Tolkien at all Shelob'sAppetite 11744 1 Aug 18 2012, 4:37pm
                               sh Lusitano 11916 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:50pm
                   Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though DanielLB 17526 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:03pm
               Collapse Well, not *all* of JRR Tolkien's family are "protective" of his works to the point of disliking the films Earl 17929 44 Aug 18 2012, 4:02pm
                   Collapse Does this imply Shelob'sAppetite 17724 12 Aug 18 2012, 4:03pm
                       Collapse In the context I used "supercool", yes B-) Earl 17676 11 Aug 18 2012, 4:07pm
                           Collapse You've met Royd! DanielLB 17622 2 Aug 18 2012, 4:09pm
                               No, I haven't met him in person Earl 11734 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:15pm
                               Quite a few of us have. Elizabeth 10943 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:14pm
                           Collapse But that's unfair Shelob'sAppetite 11847 7 Aug 18 2012, 4:12pm
                               Collapse Well, Peter Jackson did approach the TE back in the day Earl 11834 6 Aug 18 2012, 4:22pm
                                   Collapse C.Tolkien is very set in his ways and opinions DanielLB 11837 5 Aug 18 2012, 4:28pm
                                       Collapse well Lusitano 11702 2 Aug 18 2012, 4:32pm
                                           Collapse Ifs and buts DanielLB 11691 1 Aug 18 2012, 4:45pm
                                               danielb Lusitano 11654 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:53pm
                                       Collapse Most old guys I know of are that way...// Maiarmike 11067 1 Aug 18 2012, 6:17pm
                                           Careful - I may resemble that comment :) jschomburg 12529 0 Aug 20 2012, 8:32pm
                   Ah, yes, I agree Earl. DanielLB 17591 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:06pm
                   Collapse I think the article did a fine job of explaining, in brief, what protect means (And thank you DanielB for the link) AinurOlorin 11759 24 Aug 18 2012, 4:59pm
                       Collapse Eh, they wouldn't of even had the conversation if it weren't for the movie Tim 11672 4 Aug 18 2012, 5:07pm
                           Collapse That person continued to argue even without facts. AinurOlorin 11623 3 Aug 18 2012, 5:58pm
                               Collapse Having just come from math class... Tim 11173 2 Aug 18 2012, 8:01pm
                                   Collapse if I may say so Wandering Ranger 11119 1 Aug 18 2012, 8:10pm
                                       My experience is exactly the opposite Tim 11150 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:18pm
                       Also it's my view that Wandering Ranger 11610 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:08pm
                       Collapse I suppose I'm in the fortunate position on this of not giving two hoots. Lacrimae Rerum 11643 17 Aug 18 2012, 5:19pm
                           Collapse Fortunate indeed. AinurOlorin 11616 16 Aug 18 2012, 5:35pm
                               Collapse Well conflicts arise for all sorts of reasons. Lacrimae Rerum 11578 15 Aug 18 2012, 5:49pm
                                   Collapse Well there is different. . . and then there is plain wrong. AinurOlorin 11551 14 Aug 18 2012, 6:05pm
                                       Collapse It's a different telling of the tale. Lacrimae Rerum 11540 13 Aug 18 2012, 6:13pm
                                           Collapse That is pretty much my belief too Earl 11030 9 Aug 18 2012, 6:21pm
                                               Collapse Well, that explains alot AinurOlorin 11065 8 Aug 18 2012, 6:47pm
                                                   Collapse No, no, now I'll have to put the tin hat on that one. Lacrimae Rerum 11033 7 Aug 18 2012, 7:15pm
                                                       Collapse If the film is the child AinurOlorin 10884 6 Aug 18 2012, 7:51pm
                                                           Collapse No no Lacrimae Rerum 10900 5 Aug 18 2012, 8:00pm
                                                               I agree. Wouldn't a good example of this be the tale of King Arthur and Merlin? Tim 11098 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:08pm
                                                               Collapse Well, the work is the child, and the film is the child altered AinurOlorin 11159 3 Aug 18 2012, 8:09pm
                                                                   Collapse How is a story like a child? Lacrimae Rerum 11133 2 Aug 18 2012, 8:44pm
                                                                       Collapse You made the original child analogy. AinurOlorin 10993 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:30pm
                                                                           I agree with almost all the steps of this Lacrimae Rerum 10917 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:52pm
                                           Collapse Bah and humbug. The Author's account is the true one, AinurOlorin 10984 2 Aug 18 2012, 6:26pm
                                               Collapse Haha have you ever considered starting a religion? Old L.Ron did ok out it. NT Lacrimae Rerum 10997 1 Aug 18 2012, 6:29pm
                                                   lol AinurOlorin 10906 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:39pm
                   Collapse He plays the ranger handing out spears before the attack on Osgiliath if I remember rightly? Seaber 11212 4 Aug 18 2012, 8:41pm
                       Royd played a ranger geordie 11038 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:04pm
                       Collapse Here's BBC's interview with Royd from 2003 Earl 10893 2 Aug 19 2012, 8:01am
                           Collapse *sighs smiling* He even went beyond cameos and after parties. grammaboodawg 11066 1 Aug 19 2012, 12:41pm
                               Thanks gramma for confirming that Royd's really a supercool person B-) // Earl 10942 0 Aug 19 2012, 2:41pm
           Collapse Bizarro ShelobAppetite Lusitano 17680 15 Aug 18 2012, 3:54pm
               Collapse From C.Tolkien's perspective DanielLB 17639 8 Aug 18 2012, 3:55pm
                   Collapse well Lusitano 17596 6 Aug 18 2012, 4:06pm
                       Collapse Of course Martin and Rowling etc. have a different attitude. AinurOlorin 11665 5 Aug 18 2012, 5:05pm
                           Collapse ainur Lusitano 11615 4 Aug 18 2012, 5:17pm
                               Collapse I can understand why Christopher wouldn't agree to a meeting. AinurOlorin 11643 2 Aug 18 2012, 5:37pm
                                   Collapse well i just think its a pity Lusitano 11083 1 Aug 18 2012, 6:17pm
                                       I can still understand Christopher not wanting to meet. AinurOlorin 11005 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:38pm
                               Kreacher was in the movies solely because JK said he had to be there. Ataahua 10936 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:32pm
                   Probably not. Only because... Dlanor da Great 10948 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:21pm
               Collapse What's so Bizarro about it? Shelob'sAppetite 17631 1 Aug 18 2012, 4:01pm
                   well Lusitano 17588 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:02pm
               Collapse This seems a little obnoxious as an assertion AinurOlorin 11772 3 Aug 18 2012, 4:10pm
                   Collapse hmm Lusitano 11690 2 Aug 18 2012, 4:30pm
                       Collapse Ah, bizzaro. AinurOlorin 11609 1 Aug 18 2012, 5:30pm
                           yes Lusitano 11578 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:33pm
           Collapse I'm sorry rings7 11133 3 Aug 18 2012, 9:10pm
               Collapse I think the films Shelob'sAppetite 11046 2 Aug 18 2012, 9:11pm
                   Collapse Ok rings7 11048 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:15pm
                       Not necessarily Shelob'sAppetite 10946 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:21pm
       Collapse It would have been nice if The Tolkiens had been allowed at least some AinurOlorin 11818 91 Aug 18 2012, 4:28pm
           I wouldn't say the HP films are any more faithful than the LOTR films DanielLB 11730 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:31pm
           Collapse As I said above Earl 11732 89 Aug 18 2012, 4:34pm
               Collapse I agree, very sad. macfalk 11726 88 Aug 18 2012, 4:38pm
                   Collapse If Shelob'sAppetite 11749 87 Aug 18 2012, 4:44pm
                       Collapse And Heavenly Creatures... macfalk 11798 74 Aug 18 2012, 4:47pm
                           Collapse JRR Tolkien was not your father Shelob'sAppetite 11771 2 Aug 18 2012, 4:52pm
                               well Lusitano 11606 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:56pm
                               Yes, I have to agree DanielLB 11640 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:58pm
                           Collapse I may be wrong here but... Spaldron 11712 70 Aug 18 2012, 5:31pm
                               Collapse well Wandering Ranger 11666 68 Aug 18 2012, 5:38pm
                                   Collapse Tolkien sold the rights years ago... Spaldron 11735 66 Aug 18 2012, 5:52pm
                                       without wishing to start an argument Wandering Ranger 11593 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:58pm
                                       Collapse "Don't Confuse Me With The Facts!" JWPlatt 11610 62 Aug 18 2012, 6:06pm
                                           Collapse Indeed Phibbus 11286 1 Aug 18 2012, 6:39pm
                                               The Tolkien Trust Elizabeth 10916 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:33pm
                                           Collapse No quite what I meant Spaldron 11007 58 Aug 18 2012, 6:53pm
                                               Expand Worse JWPlatt 11025 57 Aug 22 2012, 4:06pm
                                           Great points Shelob'sAppetite 11119 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:45pm
                                       Collapse The Voice of Saruman and the Call of Mammon Finrod 11006 1 Aug 18 2012, 7:37pm
                                           I'd be happy to respond... Spaldron 10757 0 Aug 19 2012, 12:38am
                                   I agree with both your latest posts geordie 11563 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:17pm
                               LOTR is not a book for Adolescents. Neither is The Hobbit, per se, but from a different angle AinurOlorin 11565 0 Aug 18 2012, 5:55pm
                       Collapse I've always viewed him as largely ungrateful. Maiarmike 11005 9 Aug 18 2012, 6:24pm
                           Collapse Maybe he thinks respect for his father's life-work is more important than money. // RosieLass 10987 5 Aug 18 2012, 6:39pm
                               Collapse Hence, my first mention being about all that Jackson has done to further Tolkien's influence... Maiarmike 10993 4 Aug 18 2012, 7:12pm
                                   Collapse was that to me? Wandering Ranger 10980 2 Aug 18 2012, 7:13pm
                                       Collapse No, my response was to RosieLass. Maiarmike 10940 1 Aug 18 2012, 7:15pm
                                           I did not twist anything. RosieLass 11162 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:38pm
                                   You think PJ created an intelligent and respectful version of the story Shelob'sAppetite 11127 0 Aug 18 2012, 8:51pm
                           Collapse You know, it is a funny thing, but some people would rather AinurOlorin 11064 1 Aug 18 2012, 6:40pm
                               That's right - geordie 11005 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:49pm
                           Here here. Spaldron 10936 0 Aug 18 2012, 6:56pm
                       Collapse Well in that case Lindele 10963 1 Aug 18 2012, 6:59pm
                           but Wandering Ranger 10955 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:10pm
       Success Stories JWPlatt 11733 0 Aug 18 2012, 4:38pm
       Collapse Doesn't really matter Tim 11745 1 Aug 18 2012, 4:44pm
           Perfectly put.// Gorbag 10896 0 Aug 18 2012, 7:33pm
       Collapse Christopher Tolkien is simply too close to the source material sycorax82 11192 21 Aug 18 2012, 8:39pm
           Collapse The funny thing about this stat Shelob'sAppetite 11136 17 Aug 18 2012, 8:56pm
               I'll pitch it to my superviser in my next meeting with him DanielLB 11118 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:06pm
               Couldn't agree more.// geordie 11037 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:07pm
               Collapse I said it strengthens my argument... Tim 11091 13 Aug 18 2012, 9:07pm
                   Collapse Yet how many more people will see the movies without picking up the books? AinurOlorin 10997 12 Aug 18 2012, 9:23pm
                       Collapse Right, and people often ignore the question... Shelob'sAppetite 11037 3 Aug 18 2012, 9:26pm
                           Collapse Sort of moot Phibbus 10998 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:40pm
                               That's interesting. Lacrimae Rerum 10961 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:01pm
                           I read the book on recommendation from my Mum and sister DanielLB 10992 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:44pm
                       Why? Do the people who don't read the books live in a social vacuum? Tim 10968 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:44pm
                       Collapse ROTK won an Academy Award for Best picture... DemoElite 11023 6 Aug 18 2012, 10:10pm
                           Collapse To many people, the Oscars mean nothing DanielLB 10965 4 Aug 18 2012, 10:15pm
                               Collapse Agreed about the oscars... DemoElite 10872 3 Aug 18 2012, 10:23pm
                                   Collapse LOTR was not good film especially in terms of quality... Tigero 10769 2 Aug 19 2012, 7:30am
                                       Collapse I don't think it makes them bad films DanielLB 10759 1 Aug 19 2012, 7:42am
                                           Yes it still has parts that would deserve an oscar on their own Tigero 11012 0 Aug 19 2012, 9:42am
                           I never said it was a terrible movie. I am personally rather fond of it. So much so AinurOlorin 10816 0 Aug 19 2012, 5:29am
               From past experience... Morthoron 11048 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:26pm
           Collapse Couldn't agree more! / DanielLB 11143 2 Aug 18 2012, 9:04pm
               Collapse Oh, I bet you could! Shelob'sAppetite 11133 1 Aug 18 2012, 9:07pm
                   I could? / DanielLB 11080 0 Aug 18 2012, 9:09pm
       Collapse I am shocked by some people's views on here imin 11119 20 Aug 18 2012, 10:19pm
           Im more shocked that.... Dlanor da Great 10898 0 Aug 18 2012, 10:38pm
           Collapse Well said. DesiringDragons 10979 18 Aug 19 2012, 2:56pm
               Collapse Amen Shelob'sAppetite 11013 17 Aug 19 2012, 4:19pm
                   Collapse The Oscar and BAFTA winning screenplay which Lacrimae Rerum 10930 16 Aug 19 2012, 4:24pm
                       Collapse Yes Shelob'sAppetite 11117 7 Aug 19 2012, 4:38pm
                           I bet you're a Razzie man DanielLB 10970 0 Aug 19 2012, 4:43pm
                           Collapse Well not quite Lacrimae Rerum 10895 5 Aug 19 2012, 5:32pm
                               Collapse Well, that's because I find it very tiresome Shelob'sAppetite 10303 4 Aug 19 2012, 8:09pm
                                   Well said geordie 10271 0 Aug 19 2012, 8:19pm
                                   Collapse Maybe it's the brevity Lacrimae Rerum 10312 2 Aug 19 2012, 8:25pm
                                       Collapse Brevity Shelob'sAppetite 10865 1 Aug 19 2012, 8:40pm
                                           If you had said this... Spaldron 10742 0 Aug 20 2012, 12:07am
                       Collapse Writers JWPlatt 11001 5 Aug 19 2012, 4:45pm
                           People want different things. Escapist 10864 0 Aug 19 2012, 5:10pm
                           I'm not sure the audience felt they were damned. Lacrimae Rerum 10897 0 Aug 19 2012, 5:34pm
                           Collapse I concur, JW... Morthoron 10455 1 Aug 19 2012, 6:16pm
                               I cannot do much other than bow my acknowledgent of the general accuracy of this post AinurOlorin 10393 0 Aug 19 2012, 8:01pm
                           Very well said, JWplatt AinurOlorin 10331 0 Aug 19 2012, 7:54pm
                       Collapse Zimmerman treatment retread Solicitr 12377 1 Sep 5 2012, 5:34pm
                           Nature JWPlatt 12541 0 Sep 5 2012, 5:57pm
       The opinion of CT matters. Escapist 11011 0 Aug 19 2012, 5:19pm
       I'm sure it wasn't a ploy Gwytha 10351 0 Aug 19 2012, 8:28pm

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