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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Collapse From Variety: Unions to thesps:" Don't work on The Hobbit" macfalk 11141 329 Sep 25 2010, 7:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kangi Ska)
       Collapse My amatuer opinion is Tim 5825 1 Sep 25 2010, 8:34pm
           hear, hear bowencm 2974 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
       " "The Hobbit" producers have indicated they intend to make "imminent" offers to performers" Voronwë_the_Faithful 5664 0 Sep 25 2010, 8:40pm
       Collapse It's an attempt at a boycott of sorts Altaira 5526 1 Sep 25 2010, 9:17pm
           More info/links in here, too... Altaira 5485 0 Sep 25 2010, 9:27pm
       Collapse I've got the rest of this story Kristin Thompson 5667 6 Sep 25 2010, 9:46pm
           Collapse More hurdles ahead? Elven 5359 5 Sep 25 2010, 11:43pm
               Collapse Peter directing? Kristin Thompson 5371 4 Sep 26 2010, 12:29am
                   Well if New Zealand caves to unions Tim 5298 0 Sep 26 2010, 12:36am
                   Collapse Sorry Kristin ... Elven 5328 2 Sep 26 2010, 6:31am
                       Collapse Peter, Fran, and Philippa as union members Kristin Thompson 3110 1 Sep 26 2010, 7:15pm
                           Thanks Kristin Elven 2762 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:54pm
       Collapse Does anyone else just want to scream at this point? dormouse 5430 32 Sep 25 2010, 9:55pm
           Collapse Like crawling over broken glass Eruonen 5340 1 Sep 25 2010, 10:40pm
               Jeez duats 5259 0 Sep 25 2010, 11:23pm
           Collapse Is this some kind of a joke??? Pipe Dream 5376 29 Sep 26 2010, 1:06am
               Collapse Oh the humanity!!! Captain Salt 5229 28 Sep 26 2010, 2:38am
                   Collapse The whole point ... Hellmistress 5265 27 Sep 26 2010, 3:47am
                       Well said. / SirDennisC 5085 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:06am
                       Collapse Yes squire 5239 25 Sep 26 2010, 4:27am
                           Absolutely. N.E. Brigand 5202 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:33am
                           Also well said SirDennisC 5067 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:44am
                           Collapse thumbs up to this (and Hellmistress's) // Magpie 5204 1 Sep 26 2010, 4:47am
                               union merlwynd 5181 0 Sep 26 2010, 5:31am
                           well said merlwynd 5112 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:37am
                           The Collective is only as good as its jurisdiction Tim 2867 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:01pm
                           Collapse Thank you Squire Gildor 2777 10 Sep 26 2010, 11:09pm
                               Collapse Aw c'mon now Tim 2639 8 Sep 26 2010, 11:29pm
                                   Collapse I don't know him personally Gildor 2572 7 Sep 27 2010, 3:02pm
                                       Collapse Just to clarify ... Elven 2415 6 Sep 27 2010, 3:45pm
                                           Collapse Jumped Lark 2487 5 Sep 27 2010, 3:57pm
                                               Collapse As Im aware ... Elven 2412 3 Sep 27 2010, 4:27pm
                                                   Collapse Dunce hat Lark 2517 2 Sep 27 2010, 4:43pm
                                                       Collapse PJ claims he's paying fairly Tim 2495 1 Sep 27 2010, 4:49pm
                                                           I understand that Lark 2478 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:07pm
                                               Sorry, have I missed something... dormouse 2497 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:41pm
                               Annnnd PJ isn't even in control of the situation Tim 2700 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:36pm
                           Collapse As a Union Worker grammaboodawg 2623 7 Sep 27 2010, 2:17am
                               Collapse Heh heh like I said it's not simple Tim 2626 5 Sep 27 2010, 3:13am
                                   Nothing is perfect: Kangi Ska 2663 0 Sep 27 2010, 3:41am
                                   Collapse Aside: I've seen "Waiting for Superman" entmaiden 2381 3 Sep 27 2010, 10:09pm
                                       Collapse Thanks for your review entmaiden Tim 2420 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:28pm
                                           I saw it at a film festival in the US, but entmaiden 2455 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:32pm
                                       And aside on the aside: NBC News grammaboodawg 2363 0 Sep 28 2010, 12:25am
                               Labor pains?! Sunflower 2454 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:33am
       who do they mean by "producers" Glaurung63 5264 0 Sep 25 2010, 11:49pm
       the more I think about this... dormouse 5164 0 Sep 26 2010, 3:11pm
       Collapse Historically: Unions came into existence when Owners, Management & Government Kangi Ska 2918 14 Sep 26 2010, 3:58pm
           Collapse Power corrupts, even unions Voronwë_the_Faithful 2890 13 Sep 26 2010, 4:14pm
               Collapse The leaders ... Hellmistress 2826 9 Sep 26 2010, 5:06pm
                   Collapse Still. It's the worst possible timing. If the wages are bad, pick another job. The unions are putting one of the most anticipated movies on film history at stake. It should be an honor to work on The Hobbit. I'd do it for free, and gladly so. macfalk 2871 8 Sep 26 2010, 6:48pm
                       Collapse Sorry, but this is irrelevant ... Hellmistress 2889 6 Sep 26 2010, 9:20pm
                           Collapse But, if that were true Altaira 2870 4 Sep 26 2010, 10:36pm
                               Collapse Independent contractor ... Elven 2706 3 Sep 26 2010, 11:45pm
                                   Collapse You go! Altaira 2613 2 Sep 27 2010, 12:59am
                                       Hats off to you too... Elven 2555 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:50am
                                       I'm always grammaboodawg 2475 0 Sep 28 2010, 12:34am
                           sneaky suspicions ... Elven 2734 0 Sep 27 2010, 12:09am
                       So you say Gildor 2706 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:14pm
               Collapse Humans are fallible Kangi Ska 2798 2 Sep 26 2010, 5:57pm
                   Collapse So true, that's why even people who work for unions have unions. / SirDennisC 2820 1 Sep 26 2010, 9:54pm
                       Yes indeed ... Hellmistress 2839 0 Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
       Collapse Peter's response to the unions' demands Kristin Thompson 2973 19 Sep 26 2010, 6:41pm
           Collapse It seems this is the key paragraph: Ataahua 2930 1 Sep 26 2010, 6:55pm
               From a quick bit of Googling Ataahua 2869 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:42pm
           Yikes! Pipe Dream 2818 0 Sep 26 2010, 6:56pm
           Collapse PJ needed to step in and get out his side and he did - good job Tim 2880 11 Sep 26 2010, 7:27pm
               Collapse People who work for PJ are very loyal Kristin Thompson 2880 1 Sep 26 2010, 7:39pm
                   Good on PJ then Tim 2780 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:44pm
               Collapse I have to wonder Altaira 2762 3 Sep 26 2010, 8:21pm
                   Collapse Not quite. Ataahua 2776 1 Sep 26 2010, 8:52pm
                       Ah, thanks. Then it comes down to whether they are contractors or employees - and there is precedence Altaira 3187 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:08pm
                   As dormouse said above SirDennisC 2732 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:06pm
               Collapse It's a lonely battle you wage here Tim Kirly 3547 4 Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
                   Collapse Heh heh I don't feel lonely ;-) Tim 2865 1 Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
                       unions Kirly 2549 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:08am
                   Collapse I agree with Tim as well dormouse 2951 1 Sep 26 2010, 11:03pm
                       I agree with that. just the chosen target of the day. (nft) Kirly 2608 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:09am
           Oh boy. Ainu Laire 2653 0 Sep 27 2010, 12:57am
           RE: PJ's response Pete 2704 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:47am
           Collapse McKellen & co. support a boycott of the film? Silmaril 2826 1 Sep 27 2010, 9:11am
               I note the NZ contracts didn't stop them from working on LOTR. / Ataahua 2803 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:25pm
       Collapse If I were Peter, I would just throw my hands in the air and say... DarthNeeson 2926 29 Sep 26 2010, 10:12pm
           Collapse Some times it takes a lot of patience Kangi Ska 2690 28 Sep 27 2010, 12:38am
               Collapse Amarth faeg! :S Ruijor 2651 27 Sep 27 2010, 1:01am
                   Collapse A move would require another long delay Eruonen 2785 26 Sep 27 2010, 1:17am
                       Collapse Europe MouthofSauron 2596 25 Sep 27 2010, 6:20am
                           Collapse To Unionise or not to Unionise ... Hellmistress 2565 24 Sep 27 2010, 7:00am
                               MEAA was struck off the list of Registered Societies this month - it can't negotiate as a registered union.... Elven 2694 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:12am
                               Collapse Can this be... Sunflower 2221 22 Sep 29 2010, 8:26am
                                   Collapse I've been wondering that too.... dormouse 2532 21 Sep 29 2010, 8:42am
                                       Collapse PS.... dormouse 2440 19 Sep 29 2010, 10:11am
                                           Collapse Hobbiton flyover. Pioneer 2882 18 Sep 29 2010, 10:24am
                                               Oh that is awesome! Earl 2608 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:49am
                                               Fer sure Hobbitton is moving right along - let's hope they get to use it. // Tim 2499 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:03pm
                                               Collapse Thanks for posting Eruonen 2514 11 Sep 29 2010, 2:11pm
                                                   Collapse To heck with it I'm emailing SAG what have I got to lose? Tim 2502 10 Sep 29 2010, 2:32pm
                                                       Collapse I also sent an email... Eruonen 2503 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:17pm
                                                           Cool! Even NZ Actor's Equity isn't making the claim that The Hobbit is non-union. Tim 2592 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:25pm
                                                       Collapse I agree.... Gorgori 3026 7 Sep 29 2010, 3:24pm
                                                           Collapse A trust fund for the actors and crew - hmmm I like this idea - Voronwe where are you? Let's set this up. ;-) Tim 2590 3 Sep 29 2010, 3:37pm
                                                               Collapse I think it would be better if... Eruonen 2646 2 Sep 29 2010, 3:41pm
                                                                   Collapse That's a good idea too Tim 2499 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:47pm
                                                                       Oh, just send the money to me geordie 2416 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:15pm
                                                           Collapse Welcome to the Matrix...I mean the boards. It is good to hear from you. Kangi Ska 2572 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:53pm
                                                               Rather, "welcome to the Thunderdome, bleep" SirDennisC 2366 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:59pm
                                                           Welcome, Gorgori! Patty 2695 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:27pm
                                               Collapse Skips over all the political wrangling Garfeimao 2932 3 Sep 30 2010, 6:32am
                                                   Collapse I thought it looked behind schedule. Pipe Dream 3103 2 Sep 30 2010, 8:33am
                                                       I got the same feeling... Earl 2914 0 Sep 30 2010, 9:52am
                                                       Four months is a long time squire 2340 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:31pm
                                       I wonder if any of that footage will be in The Hobbit EE extras? SirDennisC 2253 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:22pm
       Unions are good, Galadriel's ring 2581 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:55am
       Collapse What makes me REALLY angry about this... Iolite 2752 8 Sep 27 2010, 9:04am
           Thanks for chiming in Iolite. Ataahua 2558 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:24pm
           Collapse Yes, an informative post though I find it odd SirDennisC 2509 6 Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
               Well said, Sir Dennis ... Hellmistress 2520 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
               Collapse We do have contracts and laws to enforce them... Iolite 2442 4 Sep 27 2010, 9:21pm
                   Nicely articulated, Iolite Altaira 2346 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:00pm
                   Collapse Implying/Non-binding SirDennisC 2431 2 Sep 27 2010, 10:41pm
                       Collapse Recommended guidelines only... Iolite 2428 1 Sep 28 2010, 12:13am
                           Fascinating SirDennisC 2854 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:04am
       Collapse Europe? Whoo-hoo! geordie 2655 1 Sep 27 2010, 9:12am
           unions merlwynd 2617 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:22am
       Where's BoB? He hasn't chimed in on this yet...!? sphdle1 2587 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:43am
       Collapse Here is Jackson's reponse on Variety sphdle1 2657 4 Sep 27 2010, 11:57am
           Collapse All is resumed to this... Dreamaster 2617 3 Sep 27 2010, 1:19pm
               Collapse Eastern Europe? macfalk 2585 1 Sep 27 2010, 1:32pm
                   Welcome to Latvia Bilbo Baggins ... ;-) // Elven 2444 0 Sep 27 2010, 2:50pm
               Amen. Sunflower 2576 0 Sep 29 2010, 9:20am
       Collapse Update: MEAA Meeting planned in Auckland tomorrow ... Elven 2536 2 Sep 27 2010, 3:13pm
           Collapse What do you think - do I understand this right? Tim 2456 1 Sep 27 2010, 5:01pm
               Yes Lark 2471 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:12pm
       Collapse I'm glad performers are being protected. Lark 2517 1 Sep 27 2010, 3:40pm
           Well the majority of New Zealanders (actors) are not union Tim 2527 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:44pm
       Collapse What we hear is that it's illegal in New Zealand FangornFriend 2569 26 Sep 27 2010, 5:29pm
           Collapse Can't happen? Lark 2531 22 Sep 27 2010, 5:40pm
               Collapse This doesn't seem about wages Tim 2640 14 Sep 27 2010, 5:57pm
                   Collapse I did Lark 2483 13 Sep 27 2010, 7:01pm
                       Peter Jackson did not say "he can't do what they ask (pay fairly)" Kangi Ska 2516 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:16pm
                       Sorry, Lark dormouse 2592 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:18pm
                       Collapse Others have accurately pointed out you mis-represent what PJ says in his statement but I'll add my two cents as well Tim 2516 10 Sep 27 2010, 7:55pm
                           Collapse ugh Lark 2431 5 Sep 27 2010, 8:06pm
                               Saying he can't negotiate with the unions Tim 2495 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:16pm
                               Thank-you Altaira 2549 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
                               Collapse I do believe you hav misunderstood parts of Peter's starement. Kangi Ska 2412 2 Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
                                   Collapse Yes Lark 2440 1 Sep 27 2010, 8:53pm
                                       Well thanks for being honest about your perspective :-) Tim 2430 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:24pm
                           Collapse My guess is that this will be a flash in the pan Eruonen 2611 3 Sep 27 2010, 8:07pm
                               Collapse I hope you're right and that this is "much ado about nothing". Tim 2379 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:29pm
                                   Sadly, I'm not convinced that it is Voronwë_the_Faithful 2494 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:42pm
                               A team of international labor lawyers will straighten this out. Kangi Ska 2377 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:43pm
               Collapse Sounds reasonable to me Gildor 2361 6 Sep 28 2010, 4:05pm
                   Collapse Nothing is reasonable or unreasonable yet Tim 2343 5 Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                       Collapse Sounds reasonable to me... Gildor 2285 4 Sep 28 2010, 5:02pm
                           Collapse Two to tango normally but in my mind this isn't totally normal Tim 2234 3 Sep 28 2010, 5:15pm
                               Collapse You keep rehashing stuff Gildor 2320 2 Sep 29 2010, 12:33am
                                   Collapse Then I guess I need to repeat Tim 2322 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:35am
                                       You have and are understood! Gildor 2354 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:37am
           Yes Tim 2868 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:49pm
           Collapse Given that any employment law change Ataahua 2521 1 Sep 27 2010, 6:36pm
               I totally agree. Lark 2419 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:19pm
       Collapse There are three video's about this subject at TV New Zealand, Theodred 2549 8 Sep 27 2010, 5:37pm
           Collapse The reel world squire 2522 7 Sep 27 2010, 7:04pm
               Collapse True independent contractors can take on more than one job at a time, and work their own hours and provide their own equipment. Tim 2556 6 Sep 27 2010, 7:39pm
                   Collapse Everybody's mileage may differ squire 2531 5 Sep 27 2010, 8:37pm
                       Collapse It came across as maybe you implying - but that's why I asked because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt Tim 2437 3 Sep 27 2010, 10:16pm
                           Read Ataahua's posts Altaira 2375 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
                           Collapse In the US, it's a facts and circumstances test entmaiden 2446 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:31pm
                               Oh I don't doubt squire's right Tim 2459 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:36pm
                       NZ vs US Law entmaiden 2376 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
       Collapse Karl Urban backs the union's stance Ataahua 2462 13 Sep 27 2010, 10:50pm
           Collapse Any particulars on this? Tim 2444 12 Sep 27 2010, 10:59pm
               Collapse See inside Altaira 2358 5 Sep 27 2010, 11:13pm
                   Thank you thank you Altaira Tim 2371 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:20pm
                   Collapse One might also need to consider the jurisdiction of the court that decided the case. entmaiden 2391 1 Sep 27 2010, 11:22pm
                       Indeed our land is a Lawyer's Paradise. Tim 2319 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:29pm
                   Collapse A model maker is not an actor squire 2449 1 Sep 27 2010, 11:43pm
                       I require an expert NZ lawyer panel post haste! Tim 2337 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:49pm
               Collapse Totally different Elladan 2365 5 Sep 27 2010, 11:17pm
                   Collapse That's cool Tim 2370 4 Sep 27 2010, 11:27pm
                       Collapse Hmm computer error I guess Elladan 2642 3 Sep 28 2010, 3:32pm
                           Collapse With so few big films in NZ, there is a lot of project-specific employment even in scenic shops squire 2373 2 Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                               Good points squire Tim 2293 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:21pm
                               True. Elladan 2261 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:49pm
       Collapse ** Update from the Home Page: Cate Blanchett and Sir Ian McKellen may decline Hobbit roles in pay row Altaira 2500 14 Sep 28 2010, 1:13am
           Collapse I agree this is just what we've already read it's a re-hash. // Tim 2945 1 Sep 28 2010, 1:19am
               Cool with me. Pioneer 2955 0 Sep 28 2010, 1:58am
           Big scary stuff to panic the herd.// Kangi Ska 2891 0 Sep 28 2010, 2:51am
           Collapse Yahoo news has put it on their homepage... weaver 2876 7 Sep 28 2010, 2:53am
               Collapse Who wrote this fo Yahoo Movies? Kangi Ska 2913 5 Sep 28 2010, 3:06am
                   "two whole movies based in just the hobbit-land"? squire 2878 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:18am
                   I dearly wish I could comment on the article Tim 2804 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:27am
                   Collapse My jaw is stuck open--somebody help!! Ethel Duath 2868 1 Sep 28 2010, 3:39am
                       Nah... Eowyn of Penns Woods 2747 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:12am
                   Will Leitch: Author of the Bunk Kangi Ska 2720 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:07pm
               And there's our first neeker-breeker article for The Hobbit. / Ataahua 2190 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:57pm
           All this aside, that is one gorgeous shot of Cate Blanchett attached to the article. / SirDennisC 2808 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:14am
           Collapse I think they both know grammaboodawg 2730 1 Sep 28 2010, 9:14am
               wow!!! merlwynd 2712 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:40am
       Collapse Let me duck out by saying... Lark 2864 2 Sep 28 2010, 2:57am
           Not at all SirDennisC 2831 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:22am
           Sorted out? Sorted out? macfalk 2349 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:06pm
       Collapse Offical response from the Studio Bound 3195 39 Sep 28 2010, 9:03am
           Collapse puhhh... this is a serious conflict!! Silmaril 2797 9 Sep 28 2010, 9:46am
               Collapse SAG's Global Rule One Pipe Dream 2848 8 Sep 28 2010, 10:02am
                   I don't see them expelling Tim 2764 0 Sep 28 2010, 1:04pm
                   Collapse That's irrelevant in this case Altaira 2737 6 Sep 28 2010, 3:30pm
                       Collapse It seems ironic, really.... dormouse 2352 5 Sep 28 2010, 4:01pm
                           Collapse Indeed Tim 2322 4 Sep 28 2010, 4:03pm
                               Collapse Right, the union sees this as its biggest and best chance Eruonen 2272 3 Sep 28 2010, 4:10pm
                                   Collapse I agree ... Let's hope sphdle1 2252 2 Sep 28 2010, 4:45pm
                                       Collapse Any news of a New Zealand Government response? Tim 2243 1 Sep 28 2010, 4:59pm
                                           especially since sphdle1 2220 0 Sep 28 2010, 5:14pm
           Not looking good ... Jackson can't be happy right now... sphdle1 2725 0 Sep 28 2010, 11:39am
           Studios answer ti big scary stuff. Kangi Ska 2680 0 Sep 28 2010, 2:33pm
           Expand Yup. The Studios and PJ are sympatico Tim 2649 17 Sep 29 2010, 6:52pm
           Collapse The horror! Will this ever come to a good end? // Compa_Mighty 2275 8 Sep 29 2010, 12:47am
               Collapse One word... Kangi Ska 2339 7 Sep 29 2010, 12:49am
                   Collapse *writes.. Tim 2331 5 Sep 29 2010, 12:52am
                       Collapse Tolkien cioned the word Kangi Ska 2461 2 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                           Collapse Sorry I knew that - was a lame "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" joke. ;-) // Tim 2320 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:58am
                               OK...my mind was not moving in that direction Kangi Ska 2381 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:02am
                       Collapse eucatastrophe Mooseboy018 2370 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                           The ride has made me a bit queezy Kangi Ska 2357 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:59am
                   (EU) catastrophe indeed. macfalk 2182 0 Sep 29 2010, 7:43am
       Collapse *Update* ''Talk to us, Kiwi actors tell Hobbit film's producers'' Rogash 2379 13 Sep 28 2010, 5:49pm
           Collapse It means we're right back where we started from Altaira 2250 2 Sep 28 2010, 5:53pm
               NZ Actor's equity's response to PJ statement Tim 2249 0 Sep 28 2010, 6:45pm
               And PJ's claims that they aren't even a Union is presented with a genuine non-answer Tim 2234 0 Sep 28 2010, 6:50pm
           Collapse To make matters more interesting Tim 2300 6 Sep 28 2010, 6:18pm
               Collapse That must be why Altaira 2234 5 Sep 28 2010, 6:48pm
                   Collapse Interesting I wonder if that helps their union status Tim 2229 1 Sep 28 2010, 6:54pm
                       I believe... Ruijor 2165 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:45pm
                   They also can't seem to agree how to classify The Hobbit (union or non-union) Tim 2208 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:55pm
                   Collapse MEAA "has no legal status" in New Zealand Eruonen 2495 1 Sep 28 2010, 8:18pm
                       Killing the Golden Goose Eruonen 2506 0 Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
           Collapse Technically, there are no producers. entmaiden 2373 2 Sep 29 2010, 4:18am
               Collapse I agree this is an extremely weird situation Tim 2287 1 Sep 29 2010, 4:34am
                   meeting or not? Silmaril 2248 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:49am
       Collapse A strong suggestion: Kangi Ska 2536 2 Sep 28 2010, 8:15pm
           *Relaxes* Tenses up* *Relaxes* Tim 2367 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
           Yeah, sure... Sunflower 2594 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:46am
       Collapse Links to two strong articles from NZ Stuff Kangi Ska 2438 1 Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
           A third article from NZ Stuff: Karl Urban backs union Kangi Ska 2402 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:49pm
       Collapse Excellent article on Scoop.co.nz about this whole debacle... Cad Monkey 2381 21 Sep 28 2010, 11:28pm
           The clearest information I have seen.// Kangi Ska 2293 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:06am
           Collapse Highly informative and very reasonable. Ataahua 2336 14 Sep 29 2010, 12:09am
               Collapse What I found curious Tim 2367 13 Sep 29 2010, 12:32am
                   One of the two is wrong Kangi Ska 2328 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:46am
                   Collapse Your second quote is correct Voronwë_the_Faithful 2389 10 Sep 29 2010, 2:04am
                       Collapse Good find. And it does bring the Scoop article into question. Kangi Ska 2393 1 Sep 29 2010, 2:11am
                           I think it may also be the fastest moving thread I have seen Voronwë_the_Faithful 2307 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:21am
                       Collapse Admittedly I haven't weighed through the entire thing Tim 2302 7 Sep 29 2010, 2:30am
                           I would trust Voronwë the Faithful's reading Kangi Ska 2293 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:11am
                           Collapse I'm no lawyer but Envinyatar 2309 5 Sep 29 2010, 3:16am
                               OK I surrender!// Kangi Ska 2274 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:20am
                               You are correct; my apologies Voronwë_the_Faithful 2300 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:30am
                               Yes, you're right. Kimi 2222 0 Sep 29 2010, 5:27am
                               Collapse This vindicates the Scoop article that I swooned over(I guess) Kangi Ska 2519 1 Sep 29 2010, 2:20pm
                                   Yes Voronwë_the_Faithful 2748 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:34pm
                   Both are true - no, really :-) Kimi 2300 0 Sep 29 2010, 5:18am
           Great find Eruonen 2379 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:23am
           Good Scoop CINE 2402 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:27am
           If tax incentives are the carrot SirDennisC 2232 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:35am
           Collapse The writer seems to suggest sphdle1 2449 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:11pm
               I may have mistook Campbell's meaning - SirDennisC 2280 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:02pm
       Dead end durfalas 2254 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:16am
       Collapse My ultimate frustration with this duats 2296 9 Sep 29 2010, 7:35pm
           Collapse Also duats 2193 5 Sep 29 2010, 7:52pm
               Collapse I would assume NZ has free speech Eruonen 2135 3 Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
                   I don't think NZ is as free in speech as the U.S. Eruonen 2101 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:37pm
                   Collapse Possibly. Ataahua 2127 1 Sep 29 2010, 8:46pm
                       Let us hope this evil genie does not surface! Eruonen 2106 0 Sep 29 2010, 9:01pm
               Perhaps, but Silverlode 2171 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
           Agree with many of your points SirDennisC 2209 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:22pm
           Collapse Not completely out of production's hands Gildor 2294 1 Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
               Actually that process has already started Tim 2333 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:47am
       Collapse Now Kiwi politicians are getting involved... Cad Monkey 2212 22 Sep 29 2010, 9:23pm
           Collapse And the New Zealand government dormouse 2131 21 Sep 29 2010, 9:50pm
               Collapse Since NZ politician know what is at stake... Eruonen 2032 20 Sep 29 2010, 10:21pm
                   Let us hope... Kangi Ska 2084 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:28pm
                   Collapse I predict you're right Tim 2108 18 Sep 29 2010, 10:29pm
                       Collapse Not all politicians... dormouse 2042 17 Sep 29 2010, 10:45pm
                           Collapse Ah yes....goodwill Eruonen 2066 15 Sep 29 2010, 11:01pm
                               Collapse Not to be too cruel squire 2195 14 Sep 30 2010, 12:27am
                                   Collapse I hoot twice for Weta: a truly global film asset.// Kangi Ska 1977 1 Sep 30 2010, 12:37am
                                       Hoot hoot! // Tim 2492 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:58am
                                   Collapse Ideological maybe - power most certainly oh "squire the cruel" ;-) Tim 2064 9 Sep 30 2010, 12:40am
                                       Collapse Drat those SirDennisC 2203 8 Sep 30 2010, 12:53am
                                           Collapse Don't fall over dead from shock Tim 2471 7 Sep 30 2010, 12:56am
                                               Collapse I have problems with really big unions Kangi Ska 2132 6 Sep 30 2010, 1:18am
                                                   Collapse Good and evil? squire 2069 5 Sep 30 2010, 2:13am
                                                       Good and evil are real as is New Zealand Kangi Ska 2061 0 Sep 30 2010, 2:21am
                                                       Collapse To paraphrase Aragorn Voronwë_the_Faithful 3039 3 Sep 30 2010, 3:23am
                                                           Collapse Right, thank you for that squire 2378 2 Sep 30 2010, 3:51am
                                                               The good dogs taste better. (its a dog eat dog world) Kangi Ska 2741 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:57am
                                                               I knew you were going to ask that :-) Voronwë_the_Faithful 2871 0 Sep 30 2010, 4:16am
                                   When the dog finishes eating the dog Kangi Ska 2027 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
                                   Absolutely, that is my point Eruonen 2177 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:01am
                           Hmmm this article sheds a tad more light thanks dormouse Tim 2169 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:04pm
       Collapse Here is the relevant NZ law.... Iolite 2102 2 Sep 30 2010, 1:41am
           Thanks Iolite! Tim 2111 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:46am
           This must really throw SirDennisC 2151 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:57am
       Welcome to Azerbajdzjan, Bilbo Baggins. macfalk 2898 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:09pm
       My guess Zizix 2869 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:31pm
     Collapse Alright you thread-hijackers ;-) Tim 2763 5 Sep 30 2010, 2:54pm
           Collapse SAG will lay back until the smoke clears. Kangi Ska 2744 4 Sep 30 2010, 3:08pm
               Collapse Correction: SPADA not SNAGA Kangi Ska 2423 2 Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm
                   Collapse Ha ha I thought you were making fun of SPADA Tim 3283 1 Sep 30 2010, 3:21pm
                       It was Freudian slip. Kangi Ska 3909 0 Sep 30 2010, 5:23pm
               MEAA Pipe Dream 2656 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm

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