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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Collapse From Variety: Unions to thesps:" Don't work on The Hobbit" macfalk 11268 329 Sep 25 2010, 7:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kangi Ska)
       Collapse My amatuer opinion is Tim 5931 1 Sep 25 2010, 8:34pm
           hear, hear bowencm 3023 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
       " "The Hobbit" producers have indicated they intend to make "imminent" offers to performers" Voronwë_the_Faithful 5770 0 Sep 25 2010, 8:40pm
       Collapse It's an attempt at a boycott of sorts Altaira 5632 1 Sep 25 2010, 9:17pm
           More info/links in here, too... Altaira 5591 0 Sep 25 2010, 9:27pm
       Collapse I've got the rest of this story Kristin Thompson 5773 6 Sep 25 2010, 9:46pm
           Collapse More hurdles ahead? Elven 5465 5 Sep 25 2010, 11:43pm
               Collapse Peter directing? Kristin Thompson 5477 4 Sep 26 2010, 12:29am
                   Well if New Zealand caves to unions Tim 5404 0 Sep 26 2010, 12:36am
                   Collapse Sorry Kristin ... Elven 5434 2 Sep 26 2010, 6:31am
                       Collapse Peter, Fran, and Philippa as union members Kristin Thompson 3186 1 Sep 26 2010, 7:15pm
                           Thanks Kristin Elven 2811 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:54pm
       Collapse Does anyone else just want to scream at this point? dormouse 5536 32 Sep 25 2010, 9:55pm
           Collapse Like crawling over broken glass Eruonen 5446 1 Sep 25 2010, 10:40pm
               Jeez duats 5365 0 Sep 25 2010, 11:23pm
           Collapse Is this some kind of a joke??? Pipe Dream 5482 29 Sep 26 2010, 1:06am
               Collapse Oh the humanity!!! Captain Salt 5335 28 Sep 26 2010, 2:38am
                   Collapse The whole point ... Hellmistress 5371 27 Sep 26 2010, 3:47am
                       Well said. / SirDennisC 5191 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:06am
                       Collapse Yes squire 5345 25 Sep 26 2010, 4:27am
                           Absolutely. N.E. Brigand 5308 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:33am
                           Also well said SirDennisC 5173 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:44am
                           Collapse thumbs up to this (and Hellmistress's) // Magpie 5310 1 Sep 26 2010, 4:47am
                               union merlwynd 5287 0 Sep 26 2010, 5:31am
                           well said merlwynd 5218 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:37am
                           The Collective is only as good as its jurisdiction Tim 2929 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:01pm
                           Collapse Thank you Squire Gildor 2826 10 Sep 26 2010, 11:09pm
                               Collapse Aw c'mon now Tim 2688 8 Sep 26 2010, 11:29pm
                                   Collapse I don't know him personally Gildor 2608 7 Sep 27 2010, 3:02pm
                                       Collapse Just to clarify ... Elven 2451 6 Sep 27 2010, 3:45pm
                                           Collapse Jumped Lark 2523 5 Sep 27 2010, 3:57pm
                                               Collapse As Im aware ... Elven 2448 3 Sep 27 2010, 4:27pm
                                                   Collapse Dunce hat Lark 2553 2 Sep 27 2010, 4:43pm
                                                       Collapse PJ claims he's paying fairly Tim 2531 1 Sep 27 2010, 4:49pm
                                                           I understand that Lark 2514 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:07pm
                                               Sorry, have I missed something... dormouse 2533 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:41pm
                               Annnnd PJ isn't even in control of the situation Tim 2749 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:36pm
                           Collapse As a Union Worker grammaboodawg 2672 7 Sep 27 2010, 2:17am
                               Collapse Heh heh like I said it's not simple Tim 2675 5 Sep 27 2010, 3:13am
                                   Nothing is perfect: Kangi Ska 2712 0 Sep 27 2010, 3:41am
                                   Collapse Aside: I've seen "Waiting for Superman" entmaiden 2429 3 Sep 27 2010, 10:09pm
                                       Collapse Thanks for your review entmaiden Tim 2462 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:28pm
                                           I saw it at a film festival in the US, but entmaiden 2497 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:32pm
                                       And aside on the aside: NBC News grammaboodawg 2405 0 Sep 28 2010, 12:25am
                               Labor pains?! Sunflower 2533 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:33am
       who do they mean by "producers" Glaurung63 5370 0 Sep 25 2010, 11:49pm
       the more I think about this... dormouse 5270 0 Sep 26 2010, 3:11pm
       Collapse Historically: Unions came into existence when Owners, Management & Government Kangi Ska 2980 14 Sep 26 2010, 3:58pm
           Collapse Power corrupts, even unions Voronwë_the_Faithful 2952 13 Sep 26 2010, 4:14pm
               Collapse The leaders ... Hellmistress 2888 9 Sep 26 2010, 5:06pm
                   Collapse Still. It's the worst possible timing. If the wages are bad, pick another job. The unions are putting one of the most anticipated movies on film history at stake. It should be an honor to work on The Hobbit. I'd do it for free, and gladly so. macfalk 2933 8 Sep 26 2010, 6:48pm
                       Collapse Sorry, but this is irrelevant ... Hellmistress 2951 6 Sep 26 2010, 9:20pm
                           Collapse But, if that were true Altaira 2932 4 Sep 26 2010, 10:36pm
                               Collapse Independent contractor ... Elven 2755 3 Sep 26 2010, 11:45pm
                                   Collapse You go! Altaira 2662 2 Sep 27 2010, 12:59am
                                       Hats off to you too... Elven 2604 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:50am
                                       I'm always grammaboodawg 2517 0 Sep 28 2010, 12:34am
                           sneaky suspicions ... Elven 2783 0 Sep 27 2010, 12:09am
                       So you say Gildor 2755 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:14pm
               Collapse Humans are fallible Kangi Ska 2860 2 Sep 26 2010, 5:57pm
                   Collapse So true, that's why even people who work for unions have unions. / SirDennisC 2882 1 Sep 26 2010, 9:54pm
                       Yes indeed ... Hellmistress 2901 0 Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
       Collapse Peter's response to the unions' demands Kristin Thompson 3035 19 Sep 26 2010, 6:41pm
           Collapse It seems this is the key paragraph: Ataahua 2992 1 Sep 26 2010, 6:55pm
               From a quick bit of Googling Ataahua 2931 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:42pm
           Yikes! Pipe Dream 2880 0 Sep 26 2010, 6:56pm
           Collapse PJ needed to step in and get out his side and he did - good job Tim 2942 11 Sep 26 2010, 7:27pm
               Collapse People who work for PJ are very loyal Kristin Thompson 2942 1 Sep 26 2010, 7:39pm
                   Good on PJ then Tim 2842 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:44pm
               Collapse I have to wonder Altaira 2824 3 Sep 26 2010, 8:21pm
                   Collapse Not quite. Ataahua 2838 1 Sep 26 2010, 8:52pm
                       Ah, thanks. Then it comes down to whether they are contractors or employees - and there is precedence Altaira 3249 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:08pm
                   As dormouse said above SirDennisC 2794 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:06pm
               Collapse It's a lonely battle you wage here Tim Kirly 3609 4 Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
                   Collapse Heh heh I don't feel lonely ;-) Tim 2927 1 Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
                       unions Kirly 2598 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:08am
                   Collapse I agree with Tim as well dormouse 3000 1 Sep 26 2010, 11:03pm
                       I agree with that. just the chosen target of the day. (nft) Kirly 2657 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:09am
           Oh boy. Ainu Laire 2702 0 Sep 27 2010, 12:57am
           RE: PJ's response Pete 2753 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:47am
           Collapse McKellen & co. support a boycott of the film? Silmaril 2862 1 Sep 27 2010, 9:11am
               I note the NZ contracts didn't stop them from working on LOTR. / Ataahua 2851 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:25pm
       Collapse If I were Peter, I would just throw my hands in the air and say... DarthNeeson 2988 29 Sep 26 2010, 10:12pm
           Collapse Some times it takes a lot of patience Kangi Ska 2739 28 Sep 27 2010, 12:38am
               Collapse Amarth faeg! :S Ruijor 2700 27 Sep 27 2010, 1:01am
                   Collapse A move would require another long delay Eruonen 2834 26 Sep 27 2010, 1:17am
                       Collapse Europe MouthofSauron 2645 25 Sep 27 2010, 6:20am
                           Collapse To Unionise or not to Unionise ... Hellmistress 2614 24 Sep 27 2010, 7:00am
                               MEAA was struck off the list of Registered Societies this month - it can't negotiate as a registered union.... Elven 2730 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:12am
                               Collapse Can this be... Sunflower 2299 22 Sep 29 2010, 8:26am
                                   Collapse I've been wondering that too.... dormouse 2611 21 Sep 29 2010, 8:42am
                                       Collapse PS.... dormouse 2519 19 Sep 29 2010, 10:11am
                                           Collapse Hobbiton flyover. Pioneer 2961 18 Sep 29 2010, 10:24am
                                               Oh that is awesome! Earl 2687 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:49am
                                               Fer sure Hobbitton is moving right along - let's hope they get to use it. // Tim 2578 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:03pm
                                               Collapse Thanks for posting Eruonen 2593 11 Sep 29 2010, 2:11pm
                                                   Collapse To heck with it I'm emailing SAG what have I got to lose? Tim 2581 10 Sep 29 2010, 2:32pm
                                                       Collapse I also sent an email... Eruonen 2582 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:17pm
                                                           Cool! Even NZ Actor's Equity isn't making the claim that The Hobbit is non-union. Tim 2671 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:25pm
                                                       Collapse I agree.... Gorgori 3105 7 Sep 29 2010, 3:24pm
                                                           Collapse A trust fund for the actors and crew - hmmm I like this idea - Voronwe where are you? Let's set this up. ;-) Tim 2669 3 Sep 29 2010, 3:37pm
                                                               Collapse I think it would be better if... Eruonen 2725 2 Sep 29 2010, 3:41pm
                                                                   Collapse That's a good idea too Tim 2578 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:47pm
                                                                       Oh, just send the money to me geordie 2485 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:15pm
                                                           Collapse Welcome to the Matrix...I mean the boards. It is good to hear from you. Kangi Ska 2641 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:53pm
                                                               Rather, "welcome to the Thunderdome, bleep" SirDennisC 2435 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:59pm
                                                           Welcome, Gorgori! Patty 2764 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:27pm
                                               Collapse Skips over all the political wrangling Garfeimao 3015 3 Sep 30 2010, 6:32am
                                                   Collapse I thought it looked behind schedule. Pipe Dream 3186 2 Sep 30 2010, 8:33am
                                                       I got the same feeling... Earl 2997 0 Sep 30 2010, 9:52am
                                                       Four months is a long time squire 2423 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:31pm
                                       I wonder if any of that footage will be in The Hobbit EE extras? SirDennisC 2322 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:22pm
       Unions are good, Galadriel's ring 2630 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:55am
       Collapse What makes me REALLY angry about this... Iolite 2801 8 Sep 27 2010, 9:04am
           Thanks for chiming in Iolite. Ataahua 2606 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:24pm
           Collapse Yes, an informative post though I find it odd SirDennisC 2557 6 Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
               Well said, Sir Dennis ... Hellmistress 2568 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
               Collapse We do have contracts and laws to enforce them... Iolite 2490 4 Sep 27 2010, 9:21pm
                   Nicely articulated, Iolite Altaira 2394 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:00pm
                   Collapse Implying/Non-binding SirDennisC 2473 2 Sep 27 2010, 10:41pm
                       Collapse Recommended guidelines only... Iolite 2470 1 Sep 28 2010, 12:13am
                           Fascinating SirDennisC 2919 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:04am
       Collapse Europe? Whoo-hoo! geordie 2691 1 Sep 27 2010, 9:12am
           unions merlwynd 2653 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:22am
       Where's BoB? He hasn't chimed in on this yet...!? sphdle1 2623 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:43am
       Collapse Here is Jackson's reponse on Variety sphdle1 2693 4 Sep 27 2010, 11:57am
           Collapse All is resumed to this... Dreamaster 2653 3 Sep 27 2010, 1:19pm
               Collapse Eastern Europe? macfalk 2621 1 Sep 27 2010, 1:32pm
                   Welcome to Latvia Bilbo Baggins ... ;-) // Elven 2480 0 Sep 27 2010, 2:50pm
               Amen. Sunflower 2655 0 Sep 29 2010, 9:20am
       Collapse Update: MEAA Meeting planned in Auckland tomorrow ... Elven 2572 2 Sep 27 2010, 3:13pm
           Collapse What do you think - do I understand this right? Tim 2492 1 Sep 27 2010, 5:01pm
               Yes Lark 2507 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:12pm
       Collapse I'm glad performers are being protected. Lark 2553 1 Sep 27 2010, 3:40pm
           Well the majority of New Zealanders (actors) are not union Tim 2563 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:44pm
       Collapse What we hear is that it's illegal in New Zealand FangornFriend 2605 26 Sep 27 2010, 5:29pm
           Collapse Can't happen? Lark 2567 22 Sep 27 2010, 5:40pm
               Collapse This doesn't seem about wages Tim 2688 14 Sep 27 2010, 5:57pm
                   Collapse I did Lark 2531 13 Sep 27 2010, 7:01pm
                       Peter Jackson did not say "he can't do what they ask (pay fairly)" Kangi Ska 2564 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:16pm
                       Sorry, Lark dormouse 2640 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:18pm
                       Collapse Others have accurately pointed out you mis-represent what PJ says in his statement but I'll add my two cents as well Tim 2564 10 Sep 27 2010, 7:55pm
                           Collapse ugh Lark 2479 5 Sep 27 2010, 8:06pm
                               Saying he can't negotiate with the unions Tim 2543 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:16pm
                               Thank-you Altaira 2597 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
                               Collapse I do believe you hav misunderstood parts of Peter's starement. Kangi Ska 2460 2 Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
                                   Collapse Yes Lark 2488 1 Sep 27 2010, 8:53pm
                                       Well thanks for being honest about your perspective :-) Tim 2472 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:24pm
                           Collapse My guess is that this will be a flash in the pan Eruonen 2659 3 Sep 27 2010, 8:07pm
                               Collapse I hope you're right and that this is "much ado about nothing". Tim 2421 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:29pm
                                   Sadly, I'm not convinced that it is Voronwë_the_Faithful 2536 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:42pm
                               A team of international labor lawyers will straighten this out. Kangi Ska 2419 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:43pm
               Collapse Sounds reasonable to me Gildor 2441 6 Sep 28 2010, 4:05pm
                   Collapse Nothing is reasonable or unreasonable yet Tim 2423 5 Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                       Collapse Sounds reasonable to me... Gildor 2365 4 Sep 28 2010, 5:02pm
                           Collapse Two to tango normally but in my mind this isn't totally normal Tim 2314 3 Sep 28 2010, 5:15pm
                               Collapse You keep rehashing stuff Gildor 2388 2 Sep 29 2010, 12:33am
                                   Collapse Then I guess I need to repeat Tim 2390 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:35am
                                       You have and are understood! Gildor 2422 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:37am
           Yes Tim 2916 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:49pm
           Collapse Given that any employment law change Ataahua 2569 1 Sep 27 2010, 6:36pm
               I totally agree. Lark 2467 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:19pm
       Collapse There are three video's about this subject at TV New Zealand, Theodred 2585 8 Sep 27 2010, 5:37pm
           Collapse The reel world squire 2570 7 Sep 27 2010, 7:04pm
               Collapse True independent contractors can take on more than one job at a time, and work their own hours and provide their own equipment. Tim 2604 6 Sep 27 2010, 7:39pm
                   Collapse Everybody's mileage may differ squire 2579 5 Sep 27 2010, 8:37pm
                       Collapse It came across as maybe you implying - but that's why I asked because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt Tim 2485 3 Sep 27 2010, 10:16pm
                           Read Ataahua's posts Altaira 2417 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
                           Collapse In the US, it's a facts and circumstances test entmaiden 2488 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:31pm
                               Oh I don't doubt squire's right Tim 2501 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:36pm
                       NZ vs US Law entmaiden 2418 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
       Collapse Karl Urban backs the union's stance Ataahua 2504 13 Sep 27 2010, 10:50pm
           Collapse Any particulars on this? Tim 2486 12 Sep 27 2010, 10:59pm
               Collapse See inside Altaira 2400 5 Sep 27 2010, 11:13pm
                   Thank you thank you Altaira Tim 2413 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:20pm
                   Collapse One might also need to consider the jurisdiction of the court that decided the case. entmaiden 2433 1 Sep 27 2010, 11:22pm
                       Indeed our land is a Lawyer's Paradise. Tim 2361 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:29pm
                   Collapse A model maker is not an actor squire 2491 1 Sep 27 2010, 11:43pm
                       I require an expert NZ lawyer panel post haste! Tim 2379 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:49pm
               Collapse Totally different Elladan 2407 5 Sep 27 2010, 11:17pm
                   Collapse That's cool Tim 2412 4 Sep 27 2010, 11:27pm
                       Collapse Hmm computer error I guess Elladan 2707 3 Sep 28 2010, 3:32pm
                           Collapse With so few big films in NZ, there is a lot of project-specific employment even in scenic shops squire 2453 2 Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                               Good points squire Tim 2373 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:21pm
                               True. Elladan 2341 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:49pm
       Collapse ** Update from the Home Page: Cate Blanchett and Sir Ian McKellen may decline Hobbit roles in pay row Altaira 2542 14 Sep 28 2010, 1:13am
           Collapse I agree this is just what we've already read it's a re-hash. // Tim 3010 1 Sep 28 2010, 1:19am
               Cool with me. Pioneer 3020 0 Sep 28 2010, 1:58am
           Big scary stuff to panic the herd.// Kangi Ska 2956 0 Sep 28 2010, 2:51am
           Collapse Yahoo news has put it on their homepage... weaver 2941 7 Sep 28 2010, 2:53am
               Collapse Who wrote this fo Yahoo Movies? Kangi Ska 2978 5 Sep 28 2010, 3:06am
                   "two whole movies based in just the hobbit-land"? squire 2943 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:18am
                   I dearly wish I could comment on the article Tim 2869 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:27am
                   Collapse My jaw is stuck open--somebody help!! Ethel Duath 2933 1 Sep 28 2010, 3:39am
                       Nah... Eowyn of Penns Woods 2812 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:12am
                   Will Leitch: Author of the Bunk Kangi Ska 2785 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:07pm
               And there's our first neeker-breeker article for The Hobbit. / Ataahua 2270 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:57pm
           All this aside, that is one gorgeous shot of Cate Blanchett attached to the article. / SirDennisC 2873 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:14am
           Expand I think they both know grammaboodawg 2795 1 Sep 28 2010, 9:40am
       Collapse Let me duck out by saying... Lark 2929 2 Sep 28 2010, 2:57am
           Not at all SirDennisC 2896 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:22am
           Sorted out? Sorted out? macfalk 2429 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:06pm
       Collapse Offical response from the Studio Bound 3260 39 Sep 28 2010, 9:03am
           Collapse puhhh... this is a serious conflict!! Silmaril 2862 9 Sep 28 2010, 9:46am
               Collapse SAG's Global Rule One Pipe Dream 2913 8 Sep 28 2010, 10:02am
                   I don't see them expelling Tim 2829 0 Sep 28 2010, 1:04pm
                   Collapse That's irrelevant in this case Altaira 2802 6 Sep 28 2010, 3:30pm
                       Collapse It seems ironic, really.... dormouse 2432 5 Sep 28 2010, 4:01pm
                           Collapse Indeed Tim 2402 4 Sep 28 2010, 4:03pm
                               Collapse Right, the union sees this as its biggest and best chance Eruonen 2352 3 Sep 28 2010, 4:10pm
                                   Collapse I agree ... Let's hope sphdle1 2332 2 Sep 28 2010, 4:45pm
                                       Collapse Any news of a New Zealand Government response? Tim 2323 1 Sep 28 2010, 4:59pm
                                           especially since sphdle1 2300 0 Sep 28 2010, 5:14pm
           Not looking good ... Jackson can't be happy right now... sphdle1 2790 0 Sep 28 2010, 11:39am
           Studios answer ti big scary stuff. Kangi Ska 2745 0 Sep 28 2010, 2:33pm
           Collapse Yup. The Studios and PJ are sympatico Tim 2714 17 Sep 28 2010, 3:25pm
               Collapse There's a time and a place sphdle1 2368 16 Sep 28 2010, 4:40pm
                   Collapse And yet SirDennisC 2472 15 Sep 28 2010, 8:55pm
                       Collapse A business seeks to maximize profit - the prime mandate for its existence Eruonen 2533 9 Sep 28 2010, 9:12pm
                           Collapse That doesn't make it right SirDennisC 2497 8 Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
                               Collapse Indeed. Eruonen 2487 7 Sep 28 2010, 9:44pm
                                   Collapse An army must move from water to water SirDennisC 2493 5 Sep 28 2010, 10:43pm
                                       Collapse Everything you say makes sense sphdle1 2575 4 Sep 29 2010, 11:35am
                                           Collapse We should remember squire 2583 3 Sep 29 2010, 1:28pm
                                               Well said Tim 2549 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:28pm
                                               I think you misunderstood sphdle1 2742 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:19pm
                                               Remember... Sunflower 2321 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:52pm
                                   I live in Canada sphdle1 2629 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:42am
                       Collapse Whether it sits right or not facts are facts Tim 2525 2 Sep 28 2010, 9:33pm
                           Collapse A Transylvanian Hobbit might be very interesting...HaHaHaHaHaHa! Kangi Ska 2472 1 Sep 28 2010, 9:55pm
                               Just a thought... cameragod 2376 0 Sep 28 2010, 10:20pm
                       Yes I agree Tim 2370 0 Sep 28 2010, 10:57pm
                       I'm not talking about the little guy sphdle1 2563 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:18am
           Collapse The horror! Will this ever come to a good end? // Compa_Mighty 2343 8 Sep 29 2010, 12:47am
               Collapse One word... Kangi Ska 2407 7 Sep 29 2010, 12:49am
                   Collapse *writes.. Tim 2409 5 Sep 29 2010, 12:52am
                       Collapse Tolkien cioned the word Kangi Ska 2539 2 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                           Collapse Sorry I knew that - was a lame "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" joke. ;-) // Tim 2398 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:58am
                               OK...my mind was not moving in that direction Kangi Ska 2459 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:02am
                       Collapse eucatastrophe Mooseboy018 2448 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                           The ride has made me a bit queezy Kangi Ska 2435 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:59am
                   (EU) catastrophe indeed. macfalk 2260 0 Sep 29 2010, 7:43am
       Collapse *Update* ''Talk to us, Kiwi actors tell Hobbit film's producers'' Rogash 2459 13 Sep 28 2010, 5:49pm
           Collapse It means we're right back where we started from Altaira 2330 2 Sep 28 2010, 5:53pm
               NZ Actor's equity's response to PJ statement Tim 2329 0 Sep 28 2010, 6:45pm
               And PJ's claims that they aren't even a Union is presented with a genuine non-answer Tim 2314 0 Sep 28 2010, 6:50pm
           Collapse To make matters more interesting Tim 2380 6 Sep 28 2010, 6:18pm
               Collapse That must be why Altaira 2314 5 Sep 28 2010, 6:48pm
                   Collapse Interesting I wonder if that helps their union status Tim 2309 1 Sep 28 2010, 6:54pm
                       I believe... Ruijor 2245 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:45pm
                   They also can't seem to agree how to classify The Hobbit (union or non-union) Tim 2288 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:55pm
                   Collapse MEAA "has no legal status" in New Zealand Eruonen 2563 1 Sep 28 2010, 8:18pm
                       Killing the Golden Goose Eruonen 2574 0 Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
           Collapse Technically, there are no producers. entmaiden 2451 2 Sep 29 2010, 4:18am
               Collapse I agree this is an extremely weird situation Tim 2365 1 Sep 29 2010, 4:34am
                   meeting or not? Silmaril 2326 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:49am
       Collapse A strong suggestion: Kangi Ska 2604 2 Sep 28 2010, 8:15pm
           *Relaxes* Tenses up* *Relaxes* Tim 2435 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
           Yeah, sure... Sunflower 2673 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:46am
       Collapse Links to two strong articles from NZ Stuff Kangi Ska 2506 1 Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
           A third article from NZ Stuff: Karl Urban backs union Kangi Ska 2470 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:49pm
       Collapse Excellent article on Scoop.co.nz about this whole debacle... Cad Monkey 2449 21 Sep 28 2010, 11:28pm
           The clearest information I have seen.// Kangi Ska 2361 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:06am
           Collapse Highly informative and very reasonable. Ataahua 2404 14 Sep 29 2010, 12:09am
               Collapse What I found curious Tim 2435 13 Sep 29 2010, 12:32am
                   One of the two is wrong Kangi Ska 2396 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:46am
                   Collapse Your second quote is correct Voronwë_the_Faithful 2467 10 Sep 29 2010, 2:04am
                       Collapse Good find. And it does bring the Scoop article into question. Kangi Ska 2471 1 Sep 29 2010, 2:11am
                           I think it may also be the fastest moving thread I have seen Voronwë_the_Faithful 2385 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:21am
                       Collapse Admittedly I haven't weighed through the entire thing Tim 2380 7 Sep 29 2010, 2:30am
                           I would trust Voronwë the Faithful's reading Kangi Ska 2371 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:11am
                           Collapse I'm no lawyer but Envinyatar 2387 5 Sep 29 2010, 3:16am
                               OK I surrender!// Kangi Ska 2352 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:20am
                               You are correct; my apologies Voronwë_the_Faithful 2378 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:30am
                               Yes, you're right. Kimi 2300 0 Sep 29 2010, 5:27am
                               Collapse This vindicates the Scoop article that I swooned over(I guess) Kangi Ska 2598 1 Sep 29 2010, 2:20pm
                                   Yes Voronwë_the_Faithful 2827 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:34pm
                   Both are true - no, really :-) Kimi 2378 0 Sep 29 2010, 5:18am
           Great find Eruonen 2457 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:23am
           Good Scoop CINE 2480 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:27am
           If tax incentives are the carrot SirDennisC 2310 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:35am
           Collapse The writer seems to suggest sphdle1 2528 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:11pm
               I may have mistook Campbell's meaning - SirDennisC 2349 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:02pm
       Dead end durfalas 2332 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:16am
       Collapse My ultimate frustration with this duats 2365 9 Sep 29 2010, 7:35pm
           Collapse Also duats 2262 5 Sep 29 2010, 7:52pm
               Collapse I would assume NZ has free speech Eruonen 2204 3 Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
                   I don't think NZ is as free in speech as the U.S. Eruonen 2170 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:37pm
                   Collapse Possibly. Ataahua 2196 1 Sep 29 2010, 8:46pm
                       Let us hope this evil genie does not surface! Eruonen 2175 0 Sep 29 2010, 9:01pm
               Perhaps, but Silverlode 2240 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
           Agree with many of your points SirDennisC 2278 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:22pm
           Collapse Not completely out of production's hands Gildor 2377 1 Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
               Actually that process has already started Tim 2416 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:47am
       Collapse Now Kiwi politicians are getting involved... Cad Monkey 2281 22 Sep 29 2010, 9:23pm
           Collapse And the New Zealand government dormouse 2200 21 Sep 29 2010, 9:50pm
               Collapse Since NZ politician know what is at stake... Eruonen 2101 20 Sep 29 2010, 10:21pm
                   Let us hope... Kangi Ska 2153 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:28pm
                   Collapse I predict you're right Tim 2177 18 Sep 29 2010, 10:29pm
                       Collapse Not all politicians... dormouse 2111 17 Sep 29 2010, 10:45pm
                           Collapse Ah yes....goodwill Eruonen 2135 15 Sep 29 2010, 11:01pm
                               Collapse Not to be too cruel squire 2264 14 Sep 30 2010, 12:27am
                                   Collapse I hoot twice for Weta: a truly global film asset.// Kangi Ska 2046 1 Sep 30 2010, 12:37am
                                       Hoot hoot! // Tim 2575 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:58am
                                   Collapse Ideological maybe - power most certainly oh "squire the cruel" ;-) Tim 2147 9 Sep 30 2010, 12:40am
                                       Collapse Drat those SirDennisC 2286 8 Sep 30 2010, 12:53am
                                           Collapse Don't fall over dead from shock Tim 2554 7 Sep 30 2010, 12:56am
                                               Collapse I have problems with really big unions Kangi Ska 2215 6 Sep 30 2010, 1:18am
                                                   Collapse Good and evil? squire 2152 5 Sep 30 2010, 2:13am
                                                       Good and evil are real as is New Zealand Kangi Ska 2144 0 Sep 30 2010, 2:21am
                                                       Collapse To paraphrase Aragorn Voronwë_the_Faithful 3122 3 Sep 30 2010, 3:23am
                                                           Collapse Right, thank you for that squire 2461 2 Sep 30 2010, 3:51am
                                                               The good dogs taste better. (its a dog eat dog world) Kangi Ska 2824 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:57am
                                                               I knew you were going to ask that :-) Voronwë_the_Faithful 2954 0 Sep 30 2010, 4:16am
                                   When the dog finishes eating the dog Kangi Ska 2110 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
                                   Absolutely, that is my point Eruonen 2260 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:01am
                           Hmmm this article sheds a tad more light thanks dormouse Tim 2238 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:04pm
       Collapse Here is the relevant NZ law.... Iolite 2185 2 Sep 30 2010, 1:41am
           Thanks Iolite! Tim 2194 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:46am
           This must really throw SirDennisC 2234 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:57am
       Welcome to Azerbajdzjan, Bilbo Baggins. macfalk 2981 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:09pm
       My guess Zizix 2952 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:31pm
     Collapse Alright you thread-hijackers ;-) Tim 2846 5 Sep 30 2010, 2:54pm
           Collapse SAG will lay back until the smoke clears. Kangi Ska 2771 4 Sep 30 2010, 3:08pm
               Collapse Correction: SPADA not SNAGA Kangi Ska 2450 2 Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm
                   Collapse Ha ha I thought you were making fun of SPADA Tim 3310 1 Sep 30 2010, 3:21pm
                       It was Freudian slip. Kangi Ska 3936 0 Sep 30 2010, 5:23pm
               MEAA Pipe Dream 2683 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm

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