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  Collapse Do the Hobbit movies capture the "spirit" of the book? Kilidoescartwheels 7886 274 Apr 20 2016, 10:09pm Jump to last post in thread (by LittleHobbit)
       Collapse Spirit and Tone Otaku-sempai 7454 9 Apr 20 2016, 11:05pm
           Collapse Question Kilidoescartwheels 7393 8 Apr 21 2016, 3:44am
               I think he tries to but within limits... moreorless 7375 0 Apr 21 2016, 6:00am
               Collapse Reply Otaku-sempai 7297 6 Apr 21 2016, 2:09pm
                   Collapse hm, okay Kilidoescartwheels 7501 5 Apr 21 2016, 5:27pm
                       Collapse Pete's Humor Otaku-sempai 7481 4 Apr 21 2016, 7:52pm
                           Collapse Well Smaug the iron 7479 3 Apr 21 2016, 7:56pm
                               Collapse Bombur Otaku-sempai 7479 2 Apr 21 2016, 8:06pm
                                   Collapse Well Smaug the iron 7469 1 Apr 21 2016, 8:30pm
                                       Okay. Otaku-sempai 7461 0 Apr 21 2016, 9:17pm
       Collapse ...nice summary, StingingFly 7447 2 Apr 20 2016, 11:24pm
           Well that's also a nice summary Kilidoescartwheels 7430 0 Apr 21 2016, 12:11am
           I really love this analogy! Gianna 7404 0 Apr 21 2016, 2:37am
       Collapse Sadly...no wizzardly 7439 29 Apr 20 2016, 11:48pm
           Collapse I see your point, but ... Kilidoescartwheels 7391 1 Apr 21 2016, 3:42am
               I myself do not so much resent Tauriel as what they did with her character. Gianna 7314 0 Apr 21 2016, 12:43pm
           Collapse But Avandel 3364 26 Apr 24 2016, 5:15pm
               Collapse "And BTW, why wouldn't the Battle of Five Armies be big and epic?" N.E. Brigand 3312 25 Apr 25 2016, 1:37am
                   Collapse But Avandel 3200 24 Apr 25 2016, 3:09pm
                       Collapse Citizens of Lake-town at BoFA Otaku-sempai 3192 20 Apr 25 2016, 3:42pm
                           Collapse Not sure that's "better" tho re the book Avandel 3188 19 Apr 25 2016, 3:53pm
                               Collapse Survivors of Lake-town Otaku-sempai 3162 18 Apr 25 2016, 4:49pm
                                   Collapse aaah - my bad.... Avandel 3118 6 Apr 25 2016, 10:06pm
                                       Collapse well... LSF 3120 2 Apr 25 2016, 10:20pm
                                           Collapse What part of Dale do you think is left.... Morthoron 3114 1 Apr 25 2016, 10:31pm
                                               movie Dale LSF 3114 0 Apr 25 2016, 10:34pm
                                       Collapse Long Lake Otaku-sempai 3108 2 Apr 25 2016, 11:05pm
                                           Collapse Smaug wasn't as big as portrayed in the movie either Omnigeek 3367 1 Apr 26 2016, 12:13am
                                               You're right Otaku-sempai 3289 0 Apr 26 2016, 1:47pm
                                   Collapse Is that an army I see before me? No One in Particular 3347 10 Apr 26 2016, 3:54am
                                       Collapse Orc armies Sarahbor 3341 9 Apr 26 2016, 4:18am
                                           Well, now I feel silly. No One in Particular 3333 0 Apr 26 2016, 4:37am
                                           Thanks! Otaku-sempai 3292 0 Apr 26 2016, 1:34pm
                                           Collapse "Admiral, if we go 'by the book', like Lt. Saavik, hours could seem like days." N.E. Brigand 3257 6 Apr 26 2016, 7:11pm
                                               Collapse Agreed Otaku-sempai 3236 5 Apr 26 2016, 8:00pm
                                                   Collapse Distances Sarahbor 3186 4 Apr 26 2016, 9:32pm
                                                       Collapse Travel in Wilderland Otaku-sempai 3173 3 Apr 26 2016, 10:16pm
                                                           Collapse Yep Sarahbor 3329 2 Apr 27 2016, 12:10am
                                                               Collapse In case it wasn't clear... Sarahbor 3302 1 Apr 27 2016, 1:48am
                                                                   Well... Otaku-sempai 3277 0 Apr 27 2016, 2:23am
                       Collapse "I would have said 'thinly stretched' or a more 'fairy tale' tone" N.E. Brigand 3259 2 Apr 26 2016, 7:06pm
                           Collapse But Avandel 3204 1 Apr 26 2016, 8:49pm
                               Of course it's subjective. N.E. Brigand 3376 0 Apr 26 2016, 10:36pm
       Collapse No, the Hobbit movies did not capture the "spirit" of the book... Morthoron 7424 10 Apr 21 2016, 2:01am
           Collapse Sorry, not really Kilidoescartwheels 7391 8 Apr 21 2016, 3:48am
               Collapse He only got them untangled in the movie MyWeeLadGimli 7328 7 Apr 21 2016, 12:19pm
                   Collapse Agreed... StingingFly 7313 4 Apr 21 2016, 12:49pm
                       Collapse There is a build up in the film. Smaug the iron 7297 3 Apr 21 2016, 2:06pm
                           Collapse From The Hobbit StingingFly 7276 2 Apr 21 2016, 2:32pm
                               Collapse Yes I remember it Smaug the iron 7273 1 Apr 21 2016, 2:40pm
                                   Spider eyes... Otaku-sempai 7266 0 Apr 21 2016, 2:54pm
                   Well okay, I can see that Kilidoescartwheels 7306 0 Apr 21 2016, 1:34pm
                   Okay... Otaku-sempai 7287 0 Apr 21 2016, 2:21pm
           This wizzardly 3401 0 Apr 23 2016, 3:44pm
       AUJ is the closest to the tone MyWeeLadGimli 7320 0 Apr 21 2016, 12:26pm
       Lesse... Darkstone 7312 0 Apr 21 2016, 1:20pm
       Collapse Spirit, theme and tone Noria 7257 19 Apr 21 2016, 4:09pm
           You're welcome! Kilidoescartwheels 7223 0 Apr 21 2016, 5:23pm
           Collapse Main elements but not spirit Omnigeek 7457 16 Apr 21 2016, 10:31pm
               Beorn and the Beornings Otaku-sempai 7445 0 Apr 21 2016, 11:15pm
               Collapse Okay, that's reasonable enough Kilidoescartwheels 7436 13 Apr 22 2016, 12:20am
                   Collapse Tone Omnigeek 7429 2 Apr 22 2016, 3:25am
                       central character LSF 7422 0 Apr 22 2016, 3:50am
                       I keep trying to reply Kilidoescartwheels 7308 0 Apr 22 2016, 7:49pm
                   Collapse tone wizzardly 7364 9 Apr 22 2016, 2:50pm
                       But... Avandel 7313 0 Apr 22 2016, 7:10pm
                       Classic British fairy tale Kilidoescartwheels 7310 0 Apr 22 2016, 7:12pm
                       Collapse Well Sarahbor 7239 6 Apr 23 2016, 2:45am
                           Collapse well wizzardly 3410 3 Apr 23 2016, 3:32pm
                               Collapse And...too, though.... Avandel 3402 1 Apr 23 2016, 4:05pm
                                   but wizzardly 3378 0 Apr 23 2016, 5:41pm
                               Not entirely Sarahbor 3243 0 Apr 24 2016, 3:29am
                           Collapse To be fair to Narnia... Gianna 3263 1 Apr 25 2016, 4:22am
                               Yep, I know Sarahbor 3174 0 Apr 25 2016, 4:23pm
               Omnigeek Noria 7386 0 Apr 22 2016, 12:57pm
           Completely agree with Noria's post Avandel 7317 0 Apr 22 2016, 6:46pm
       Collapse Can you name movies that disappointed you in this regard? N.E. Brigand 7290 6 Apr 22 2016, 11:05pm
           Collapse Are you asking me? Kilidoescartwheels 7214 5 Apr 23 2016, 4:45am
               Collapse "It's like a cardinal rule with me, always see the movie first." N.E. Brigand 3382 4 Apr 23 2016, 5:49pm
                   Collapse Wrong opera. Silverlode 3329 1 Apr 23 2016, 8:37pm
                       Also, La traviata BlackFox 3349 0 Apr 24 2016, 6:28pm
                   It's entirely possible I have that wrong Kilidoescartwheels 3293 0 Apr 23 2016, 10:11pm
                   Okay, here's a better example Kilidoescartwheels 3270 0 Apr 24 2016, 12:07am
       Collapse Spirit and tone Sarahbor 7269 8 Apr 23 2016, 1:38am
           Collapse Not quite... Otaku-sempai 7251 4 Apr 23 2016, 1:53am
               Collapse OK Sarahbor 7247 3 Apr 23 2016, 2:11am
                   Collapse The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings Otaku-sempai 7204 2 Apr 23 2016, 6:58am
                       Collapse Well yeah Sarahbor 3440 1 Apr 23 2016, 11:32am
                           Agreed. Otaku-sempai 3423 0 Apr 23 2016, 2:44pm
           Collapse What was your objective in this thread? Omnigeek 7213 2 Apr 23 2016, 5:51am
               Collapse My objective was conversation Kilidoescartwheels 3297 1 Apr 23 2016, 10:20pm
                   And you succeeded. // N.E. Brigand 3248 0 Apr 26 2016, 7:16pm
       Collapse I think the obvious answer is no.... dormouse 3467 110 Apr 23 2016, 9:30am
           This. // BlackFox 3427 0 Apr 23 2016, 12:45pm
           Wow (: Avandel 3414 0 Apr 23 2016, 3:34pm
           Collapse Nicely said Sarahbor 3365 102 Apr 23 2016, 6:37pm
               Collapse Also Sarahbor 3350 2 Apr 23 2016, 6:54pm
                   Collapse well wizzardly 3351 1 Apr 23 2016, 7:04pm
                       In places, yes Sarahbor 3337 0 Apr 23 2016, 7:29pm
               Collapse ...are they, though? StingingFly 3305 36 Apr 23 2016, 10:00pm
                   Collapse It's a matter of opinion Sarahbor 3286 35 Apr 23 2016, 10:53pm
                       Collapse I wonder... LSF 3279 1 Apr 23 2016, 11:59pm
                           Agree Sarahbor 3269 0 Apr 24 2016, 12:11am
                       Collapse Too true *applauds* Avandel 3208 18 Apr 24 2016, 4:50pm
                           Collapse ...one example StingingFly 3293 1 Apr 25 2016, 2:36am
                               Agreed there Sarahbor 3283 0 Apr 25 2016, 2:52am
                           Collapse I would add Sarahbor 3281 11 Apr 25 2016, 3:04am
                               Collapse I'm not sure I would use "spirit" KW 3220 2 Apr 25 2016, 2:45pm
                                   Collapse Exactly. Jackson's "Hobbit" is to Tolkien's "Hobbit" as Tolkien's "Hobbit" is to "Beowulf". N.E. Brigand 3239 1 Apr 26 2016, 7:53pm
                                       PJ's "Hobbit" is to Tolkien's "Hobbit" as "Ghost Dad" is to "Hamlet". wizzardly 3379 0 Apr 26 2016, 10:27pm
                               Collapse And I would add Avandel 3197 5 Apr 25 2016, 3:42pm
                                   True Sarahbor 3173 0 Apr 25 2016, 4:27pm
                                   Collapse Hear, here! Kilidoescartwheels 3290 3 Apr 26 2016, 1:55pm
                                       Collapse Have you ever seen "Big Night", with Ian Holm? N.E. Brigand 3241 2 Apr 26 2016, 7:39pm
                                           Collapse Ian Holm was in "Big Night"? Voronwë_the_Faithful 3202 1 Apr 27 2016, 4:29pm
                                               "Bite your teeth into the @#$ of life!" N.E. Brigand 3194 0 Apr 27 2016, 4:57pm
                               Collapse Agreed, it's against greed not war per se Omnigeek 3099 1 Apr 25 2016, 11:56pm
                                   that's it wizzardly 3354 0 Apr 26 2016, 1:48am
                           Collapse Have you seen the 1948 film version of "The Red Shoes". N.E. Brigand 3239 3 Apr 26 2016, 7:40pm
                               Collapse The short answer would be no, re the Red Shoes... Avandel 3177 2 Apr 26 2016, 9:48pm
                                   Collapse "when I found out about this project I was thinking I wasn't interested, as this was going to be a 'kiddie film'" N.E. Brigand 3377 1 Apr 26 2016, 10:36pm
                                       Thank you, I shall! Avandel 3307 0 Apr 27 2016, 1:13am
                       Collapse "a huge battle and 3 major deaths" N.E. Brigand 3244 13 Apr 26 2016, 7:41pm
                           Collapse That is why... Smaug the iron 3216 6 Apr 26 2016, 8:26pm
                               I agree. ange1e4e5 3214 0 Apr 26 2016, 8:29pm
                               Collapse Agreed Avandel 3193 1 Apr 26 2016, 9:10pm
                                   Have you ever seen Akira Kurosawa's samurai comedy, "Sanjuro"? N.E. Brigand 3375 0 Apr 26 2016, 10:36pm
                               Collapse We have to see someone die to feel sorry for them? N.E. Brigand 3375 2 Apr 26 2016, 10:37pm
                                   Collapse I totally agree Omnigeek 3305 1 Apr 27 2016, 1:29am
                                       Maybe Smaug the iron 3292 0 Apr 27 2016, 5:26am
                           Collapse And one of the reasons I didn't like the book Kilidoescartwheels 3365 5 Apr 26 2016, 11:06pm
                               Collapse Dain is like Fortinbras in "Hamlet". N.E. Brigand 3363 2 Apr 26 2016, 11:27pm
                                   Collapse No, not really Kilidoescartwheels 3280 1 Apr 27 2016, 2:25am
                                       Empty space in books and films.... Avandel 3200 0 Apr 27 2016, 4:36pm
                               Collapse At least Dain had a beard wizzardly 3351 1 Apr 26 2016, 11:37pm
                                   Yeah, that makes everything better Kilidoescartwheels 3280 0 Apr 27 2016, 2:26am
               Collapse "Tolkien was speaking to children--his children--but the films need to speak to people of all ages" N.E. Brigand 3241 61 Apr 26 2016, 7:53pm
                   Collapse I know that Sarahbor 3202 60 Apr 26 2016, 9:00pm
                       Collapse "It doesn't matter that we don't 'see' Fili and Kili die in the book--they still die" N.E. Brigand 3383 59 Apr 26 2016, 10:37pm
                           Collapse I was talking about Thorin's death, not any death Sarahbor 3337 58 Apr 27 2016, 12:06am
                               Collapse "Film is a visual medium. You have to see things." N.E. Brigand 3323 15 Apr 27 2016, 12:45am
                                   Collapse It's still a matter of opinion Sarahbor 3298 14 Apr 27 2016, 1:53am
                                       Collapse and anyway wizzardly 3297 1 Apr 27 2016, 1:59am
                                           OH, you've gotta be kidding Kilidoescartwheels 3277 0 Apr 27 2016, 2:33am
                                       Collapse I have to agree Kilidoescartwheels 3277 2 Apr 27 2016, 2:30am
                                           Collapse "No Country for Old Men". N.E. Brigand 3312 1 Apr 27 2016, 4:18am
                                               Yeah, I was not a fan Kilidoescartwheels 3144 0 Apr 27 2016, 7:02pm
                                       Collapse Of course it is. N.E. Brigand 3308 8 Apr 27 2016, 4:18am
                                           Collapse Maybe because Sarahbor 3300 7 Apr 27 2016, 5:06am
                                               Collapse Written where? N.E. Brigand 3296 6 Apr 27 2016, 5:14am
                                                   Collapse In The Hobbit... Sarahbor 3275 5 Apr 27 2016, 9:50am
                                                     Collapse LOL Avandel 3210 4 Apr 27 2016, 4:10pm
                                                           Collapse Yet that's what Tolkien did in LOTR. N.E. Brigand 3197 3 Apr 27 2016, 5:10pm
                                                               Collapse Not entirely Sarahbor 3180 2 Apr 27 2016, 5:37pm
                                                                   Collapse Fili and Kili aren't main characters MyWeeLadGimli 3139 1 Apr 27 2016, 7:07pm
                                                                       They're heirs to the throne Sarahbor 3285 0 Apr 27 2016, 7:49pm
                               Collapse No, you DON'T have to see things Omnigeek 3298 41 Apr 27 2016, 1:57am
                                   Yes you do, no you don't...it's pure opinion Sarahbor 3271 0 Apr 27 2016, 2:37am
                                   Collapse But why? Kilidoescartwheels 3270 6 Apr 27 2016, 2:42am
                                       Collapse We'll have to agree to disagree Omnigeek 3326 5 Apr 27 2016, 3:27am
                                           Collapse Yes Sarahbor 3321 2 Apr 27 2016, 3:39am
                                               Collapse I think that was directed to me Kilidoescartwheels 3180 1 Apr 27 2016, 5:36pm
                                                   And I'll expand on that Avandel 3146 0 Apr 27 2016, 7:00pm
                                           Well, I come from the same perspective as you.... dormouse 3286 0 Apr 27 2016, 7:59am
                                           Yes, and that's fine Kilidoescartwheels 3171 0 Apr 27 2016, 5:42pm
                                   Collapse Probably beating a dead horse here, but Kilidoescartwheels 3195 32 Apr 28 2016, 2:05pm
                                       Collapse I suspect that while the death 'off-stage' can work in a book.... dormouse 3176 31 Apr 28 2016, 4:27pm
                                           Collapse indeed... LSF 3171 15 Apr 28 2016, 4:46pm
                                               Collapse "most of us want to see the things that happen to them and how they survive or die in the battle" N.E. Brigand 3172 14 Apr 28 2016, 5:47pm
                                                   Collapse is death... LSF 3161 5 Apr 28 2016, 6:07pm
                                                       Collapse "Is death not part of a character's story?" N.E. Brigand 3154 3 Apr 28 2016, 6:22pm
                                                           Collapse Character births and deaths Sarahbor 3110 2 Apr 28 2016, 9:10pm
                                                               Collapse Most people don't have meaningful deaths. N.E. Brigand 3473 1 Apr 28 2016, 10:10pm
                                                                   Fili and Kili do, IMO Sarahbor 3471 0 Apr 28 2016, 10:21pm
                                                       "Violent deaths have been in stories throughout the entire history of the world." N.E. Brigand 3153 0 Apr 28 2016, 6:26pm
                                                   Collapse So we know they're dead. Darkstone 3147 1 Apr 28 2016, 6:54pm
                                                       It can't help that Sean Bean dies and is reborn so often. // N.E. Brigand 3115 0 Apr 28 2016, 8:31pm
                                                   Collapse Why is that? Sometimes it just IS Kilidoescartwheels 3485 5 Apr 28 2016, 10:04pm
                                                       Collapse It's not just you. Humanity in general is "bloodthirsty". N.E. Brigand 3479 3 Apr 28 2016, 10:47pm
                                                           Collapse I was thinking about this in the car this morning.... dormouse 3428 2 Apr 29 2016, 12:47pm
                                                               Collapse Nice post. N.E. Brigand 2282 1 May 1 2016, 7:38pm
                                                                   Agreed Starling 3838 0 May 2 2016, 6:14am
                                                       Yes Smaug the iron 3427 0 Apr 29 2016, 5:41am
                                           Collapse forgot to add... LSF 3167 1 Apr 28 2016, 5:06pm
                                               Mostly from his point of view MyWeeLadGimli 3425 0 Apr 29 2016, 5:43am
                                           Collapse Tolkien didn't get to see two of his best friends die in battle. N.E. Brigand 3170 12 Apr 28 2016, 5:48pm
                                               That's an interesting point about Tolkien and his friends... dormouse 3145 0 Apr 28 2016, 6:54pm
                                               Collapse Closure is important. Darkstone 3143 10 Apr 28 2016, 7:03pm
                                                   Collapse Important to Tolkien, but to us? N.E. Brigand 3123 9 Apr 28 2016, 8:36pm
                                                       Collapse Does Sid Meier exist? Darkstone 3120 4 Apr 28 2016, 9:08pm
                                                           Collapse I have no idea. N.E. Brigand 3105 3 Apr 28 2016, 9:39pm
                                                               Collapse Well Darkstone 3484 2 Apr 28 2016, 9:52pm
                                                                   Collapse I've never heard of the "4X" video game genre before. N.E. Brigand 3471 1 Apr 28 2016, 10:16pm
                                                                       Actually... Darkstone 3407 0 Apr 29 2016, 1:50pm
                                                       Collapse Nope Sarahbor 3108 3 Apr 28 2016, 9:12pm
                                                           Collapse But that means closure isn't so important. // N.E. Brigand 3485 2 Apr 28 2016, 9:39pm
                                                               Collapse I didn't say it was Sarahbor 3487 1 Apr 28 2016, 9:47pm
                                                                   Fair enough. N.E. Brigand 3470 0 Apr 28 2016, 10:18pm
           "Spirit of the story" LSF 3282 0 Apr 24 2016, 12:05am
           My dear dormouse, let me whake your hand. Dame Ioreth 3373 0 Apr 24 2016, 5:08pm
           Collapse Interesting that you and Darkstone quote the same passage. N.E. Brigand 3325 2 Apr 25 2016, 12:35am
               Yes, I noticed that.... dormouse 3259 0 Apr 25 2016, 7:34am
               The thing is... Darkstone 3262 0 Apr 27 2016, 1:35pm
       The teaser trailer did. CaptainObvious 3315 0 Apr 25 2016, 12:47am
       Collapse I felt that it went back and forth between serious and light-hearted Misty Mountain Hop 3252 67 Apr 27 2016, 2:21pm
           Collapse Uneven moviemaking No One in Particular 3240 62 Apr 27 2016, 3:00pm
               But personally didn't see it as uneven Avandel 3216 0 Apr 27 2016, 4:09pm
               Collapse I would actually say blockbusters benefit from well used tone shifts... moreorless 3227 60 Apr 28 2016, 6:17am
                   Collapse Shifting tones in films. Otaku-sempai 3204 58 Apr 28 2016, 1:55pm
                       Collapse Not perfect but generally correct for me.. moreorless 3387 57 Apr 29 2016, 5:27pm
                           Collapse Radagast, etc... Otaku-sempai 3365 56 Apr 29 2016, 8:11pm
                               Collapse It feels like Smaug the iron 3364 54 Apr 29 2016, 8:28pm
                                   I'll save you a seat Starling 3354 0 Apr 29 2016, 9:01pm
                                   You like what you like... Otaku-sempai 3350 0 Apr 29 2016, 9:41pm
                                   Collapse Count me in as well... LittleHobbit 3328 51 Apr 30 2016, 12:07am
                                       Collapse You said it yourself Omnigeek 3320 49 Apr 30 2016, 12:14am
                                           Collapse Which scene(s)? LittleHobbit 3304 2 Apr 30 2016, 1:47am
                                               Collapse Alfrid Omnigeek 2535 1 Apr 30 2016, 2:43am
                                                   Alfrid LittleHobbit 2517 0 Apr 30 2016, 4:40am
                                           Collapse i agree wizzardly 3298 45 Apr 30 2016, 2:19am
                                               Collapse Okay... LittleHobbit 3292 40 Apr 30 2016, 2:28am
                                                   Collapse Yes it does Omnigeek 2535 14 Apr 30 2016, 2:44am
                                                       Collapse I am not sure... LittleHobbit 2520 13 Apr 30 2016, 4:32am
                                                           Collapse You're free to argue that Omnigeek 2509 4 Apr 30 2016, 5:26am
                                                               Collapse Again, why not? LittleHobbit 2336 3 May 1 2016, 11:37am
                                                                   Collapse You are certainly entitled to your opinion Omnigeek 2283 2 May 1 2016, 6:00pm
                                                                       Collapse I think the problem is... LittleHobbit 3708 1 May 5 2016, 5:23pm
                                                                           Correction. LittleHobbit 3686 0 May 5 2016, 6:46pm
                                                           Collapse It certainly does fit, and I'll explain why... Morthoron 2456 7 Apr 30 2016, 2:59pm
                                                               Collapse Why not? LittleHobbit 2353 6 May 1 2016, 10:54am
                                                                   Collapse Bad analogy... Morthoron 2320 5 May 1 2016, 12:59pm
                                                                       Sex in Tolkien's Middle-earth Otaku-sempai 2316 0 May 1 2016, 1:17pm
                                                                       lol wizzardly 2312 0 May 1 2016, 1:39pm
                                                                       Collapse Probably I do. LittleHobbit 3708 2 May 5 2016, 5:43pm
                                                                           Same here LSF 3691 0 May 5 2016, 6:49pm
                                                                           If that were the only complaint... Morthoron 3669 0 May 5 2016, 9:44pm
                                                   Collapse sure it does wizzardly 2533 20 Apr 30 2016, 2:55am
                                                       Collapse Double standard. LittleHobbit 2522 19 Apr 30 2016, 4:22am
                                                           Collapse not really wizzardly 2450 18 Apr 30 2016, 3:07pm
                                                               Collapse Not just for children. LittleHobbit 2352 17 May 1 2016, 10:44am
                                                                   Collapse that's the point right there wizzardly 2312 16 May 1 2016, 1:32pm
                                                                       Collapse So you haven't seen the third film? // Starling 3832 6 May 2 2016, 6:10am
                                                                           Collapse No I haven't wizzardly 3780 5 May 3 2016, 10:41pm
                                                                               Collapse I read a few snippets of The Hobbit Starling 3596 4 May 6 2016, 8:53pm
  Collapse fair enough wizzardly 3584 2 May 6 2016, 9:03pm
       Collapse LOL Starling Noria 3462 1 May 10 2016, 12:52pm
           it is true wizzardly 3424 0 May 10 2016, 11:10pm
  Psst! KW 3341 0 May 13 2016, 8:41pm
                                                                       Collapse So...? LittleHobbit 3714 4 May 5 2016, 4:58pm
                                                                           Collapse Grounding Fantasy Otaku-sempai 3709 1 May 5 2016, 5:33pm
                                                                               Making fantasy credible is a difficult task Voronwë_the_Faithful 3665 0 May 5 2016, 10:16pm
                                                                           Collapse so what? wizzardly 3657 1 May 5 2016, 11:03pm
                                                                               ''So'' was referring to the complaints... LittleHobbit 3209 0 Jun 15 2016, 12:57pm
                                                                       Collapse "kids like video games" KW 3637 3 May 6 2016, 1:47pm
                                                                           Collapse Halo LSF 3627 2 May 6 2016, 2:37pm
                                                                               sure wizzardly 3623 0 May 6 2016, 2:51pm
                                                                               Yes KW 3614 0 May 6 2016, 3:13pm
                                                   Collapse The Talking Purse Otaku-sempai 2500 3 Apr 30 2016, 6:59am
                                                       Collapse Agreed. LittleHobbit 2341 2 May 1 2016, 11:02am
                                                           Collapse Yes Otaku-sempai 2316 1 May 1 2016, 1:04pm
                                                               Okay. LittleHobbit 3709 0 May 5 2016, 5:03pm
                                               Collapse They do laugh at Oxford you know.... dormouse 2497 3 Apr 30 2016, 8:44am
                                                   Tolkien and humour Noria 2478 0 Apr 30 2016, 12:22pm
                                                   Collapse Agree Sarahbor 2417 1 Apr 30 2016, 6:44pm
                                                       ok i can see your point wizzardly 2392 0 Apr 30 2016, 8:55pm
                                       humour is a subjective thing LSF 3316 0 Apr 30 2016, 1:04am
                               yes wizzardly 3342 0 Apr 29 2016, 9:54pm
                   Shifts No One in Particular 3196 0 Apr 28 2016, 2:05pm
           Collapse Maybe it's just a Kiwi thing and we wouldn't understand. Darkstone 3205 3 Apr 27 2016, 4:59pm
               Collapse I have suggested that before Starling 3297 2 Apr 27 2016, 7:36pm
                   Collapse I don’t mind the tonal shifts either. Noria 3274 1 Apr 27 2016, 9:19pm
                       Nor do I.... dormouse 3260 0 Apr 27 2016, 10:50pm
       I don't think the films did capture the book's 'spirit' Glorfindela 3780 0 May 3 2016, 6:24pm
       no Jettorex 3765 0 May 3 2016, 8:43pm

  Expand entire thread Dori, Ori and Nori architecthis 82560 273 Jul 14 2011, 5:09am Jump to last post in thread (by marillaraina)

  Expand entire thread The trailer is here! DanielLB 38291 270 Jul 31 2014, 4:16pm Jump to last post in thread (by Avandel)

  Expand entire thread PETER JACKSON AND NEW LINE CINEMA JOIN WITH MGM TO PRODUCE “THE HOBBIT” Xoanon 2087081 270 Jul 18 2010, 2:55am Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)

  Expand entire thread Empire Article Scans! eralkfang 25440 269 Jul 4 2011, 8:05am Jump to last post in thread (by Milknut)

  Expand entire thread Thread Locked Deadline.com: Orlando to reprise Legolas in 'Hobbit' News from Bree 178707 268 Dec 14 2010, 7:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by willowgreylock)

  Expand entire thread TV Spot #7 Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 29390 268 Nov 19 2012, 2:46pm Jump to last post in thread (by Jettorex)

Expand entire thread Thread Locked Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XXXI Lurker in the Mirk 39939 265 Jan 3 2015, 6:23am Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)

  Expand entire thread Warner Bros. to preview The Hobbit at CinemaCon duats 144502 255 Apr 26 2012, 5:44pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eldaria)

  Expand entire thread Thread Locked Reactions to the trailer overwhelmingly positive on historically-critical Tolkien site Shelob'sAppetite 29142 254 Sep 24 2012, 11:11pm Jump to last post in thread (by JWPlatt)

  Expand entire thread Azog's Original Barrel Ride skyofcoffeebeans 28773 254 Jun 11 2020, 12:45am Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)

  Expand entire thread As promised a SPOLIER heavy look at the Empire DOS Issue, needless to say those 'appendices' are more detailed then I remeber... malickfan 36847 252 Jul 5 2013, 8:07pm Jump to last post in thread (by Michelle Johnston)

  Expand entire thread All right, ladies. Roheryn 28173 250 Feb 3 2014, 5:12am Jump to last post in thread (by grammaboodawg)

  Expand entire thread official from FB: it's a wrap titanium_hobbit 202151 249 Jul 10 2012, 2:25pm Jump to last post in thread (by dave_lf)

  Expand entire thread End of Film 1 Changed - SPOILERS Shelob'sAppetite 28569 246 Sep 11 2012, 1:11pm Jump to last post in thread (by dave_lf)
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