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Expand entire thread Thread Locked Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XV Eruvandi 64033 209 Oct 3 2014, 12:48am Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)

Expand entire thread Thread Locked Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part VII Eruvandi 64902 209 Jul 17 2014, 3:31am Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)

Expand entire thread Thread Locked Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XVI Lurker in the Mirk 48624 208 Oct 9 2014, 4:38pm Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)

Expand entire thread Thread Locked Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XVII VValar 67843 208 Oct 14 2014, 7:20am Jump to last post in thread (by Silverlode)

Expand entire thread Thread Locked Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XX Lurker in the Mirk 68660 208 Oct 27 2014, 10:19am Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)

Expand entire thread Thread Locked A random THORIN APPRECIATION image-larded thread Avandel 39152 208 Sep 3 2014, 3:07am Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)

  Expand entire thread The Imdb Disappointed Thread haarp 24940 208 Sep 22 2012, 12:53pm Jump to last post in thread (by AltairaGuest)

  Expand entire thread Your views of "The Hobbit" trailer! DanielLB 41955 208 Jan 3 2012, 9:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by Rostron2)

Expand entire thread Thread Locked Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XXIV Lurker in the Mirk 90055 207 Nov 20 2014, 3:29am Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)

Expand entire thread Thread Locked Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XXVII Lurker in the Mirk 37001 207 Dec 10 2014, 5:31pm Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)

Expand entire thread Thread Locked Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XXVIII Eruvandi 41638 207 Dec 21 2014, 6:36pm Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)

Expand entire thread Thread Locked Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part VIII Lurker in the Mirk 51587 206 Aug 9 2014, 2:27am Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)

  Collapse Brian Sibley's Official Movie Guide to The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (some spoiler pics) Eleniel 7003 206 Oct 27 2012, 2:23pm Jump to last post in thread (by Oin K)
       Collapse the links dont work architecthis 4645 1 Oct 27 2012, 2:28pm
           The last three worked for me burgahobbit 4637 0 Oct 27 2012, 2:33pm
       Collapse Cool! burgahobbit 4624 4 Oct 27 2012, 2:32pm
           Collapse Just the first three? Eleniel 4673 3 Oct 27 2012, 2:36pm
               Collapse Interesting, once again it's just the last three that worked burgahobbit 4594 1 Oct 27 2012, 2:40pm
                   They worked initially... Eleniel 4681 0 Oct 27 2012, 2:43pm
               First three still don't work. :) // Estel78 4595 0 Oct 27 2012, 2:41pm
       Collapse How come you got the book so early? Carne 4601 38 Oct 27 2012, 2:46pm
           Collapse I pre-ordered from the Book Depository... Eleniel 4718 37 Oct 27 2012, 2:52pm
               Collapse Such a shame Shelob'sAppetite 4654 13 Oct 27 2012, 2:57pm
                   Collapse Interesting Lusitano 4594 9 Oct 27 2012, 3:06pm
                       Collapse Beards, yes, but hair all over the place? I doubt ladies like that. ;) // Estel78 4512 8 Oct 27 2012, 3:19pm
                           Collapse Hairiness is manliness Shelob'sAppetite 4524 4 Oct 27 2012, 3:22pm
                               Collapse I resemble that remark! // Voronwë_the_Faithful 4479 1 Oct 27 2012, 3:27pm
                                   Me too! Shelob'sAppetite 4467 0 Oct 27 2012, 3:28pm
                               Collapse Even on the back and shoulders? :P // Estel78 4449 1 Oct 27 2012, 3:34pm
                                   No, but Shelob'sAppetite 4431 0 Oct 27 2012, 3:36pm
                           Collapse Sexy chimpanse styles apart... Lusitano 4460 2 Oct 27 2012, 3:51pm
                               Collapse Yes. Hairiness is FREEEDOMNESS! Shelob'sAppetite 1807 1 Oct 27 2012, 3:56pm
                                   Hairy VS Shavy Lusitano 1801 0 Oct 27 2012, 3:59pm
                   My mum is 51 and the only reason she is going to watch the Hobbit is because of Aidan Turner emre43 1753 0 Oct 27 2012, 4:55pm
                   Collapse Shelob, same here in the UK, beards, or at least a light beard (I have one myself), are getting more common :D // Xanaseb 1734 1 Oct 28 2012, 10:24am
                       Yup, beards are in Fardragon 1715 0 Oct 28 2012, 11:36am
               Now it works! :-) Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 4634 0 Oct 27 2012, 2:58pm
               Collapse How long did it take from they shipped the book till it arrived? Carne 4501 2 Oct 27 2012, 3:08pm
                   Collapse Well, I got the email on Tuesday (23rd)... Eleniel 4493 1 Oct 27 2012, 3:15pm
                       Thank you. Carne 4463 0 Oct 27 2012, 3:17pm
               Collapse Like everybody else burgahobbit 4457 3 Oct 27 2012, 3:49pm
                   Collapse Gandalf with fireworks and hobbits Kristin Thompson 1727 1 Oct 27 2012, 5:19pm
                       Thanks burgahobbit 1675 0 Oct 27 2012, 5:29pm
                   I am still convinced this has to be a flashback to Old Took's parties. I love the picture AinurOlorin 1673 0 Oct 28 2012, 5:39pm
               Galadriel looks great!// Ardamírë 1818 0 Oct 27 2012, 3:54pm
               Collapse That picture of Cate is awful / DanielLB 1800 10 Oct 27 2012, 3:55pm
                   Collapse Her face looks wonky, yes Ardamírë 1803 6 Oct 27 2012, 3:59pm
                       Collapse Hmmm ... I'm not sure ... / DanielLB 1774 3 Oct 27 2012, 3:59pm
                           Collapse I'll be sure for you!// Ardamírë 1760 2 Oct 27 2012, 4:02pm
                               Collapse That's good enough for me! ;-) / DanielLB 1722 1 Oct 27 2012, 4:37pm
                                   I know! Ardamírë 1723 0 Oct 27 2012, 4:49pm
                       Collapse I agree it's not the most flattering of Cate facially... Eleniel 1794 1 Oct 27 2012, 4:03pm
                           Totally agree!// Ardamírë 1760 0 Oct 27 2012, 4:22pm
                   Collapse Perhaps Vangalad 1760 1 Oct 27 2012, 4:12pm
                       Normally she is! DanielLB 1736 0 Oct 27 2012, 4:37pm
                   Agree with you! // Estel78 1746 0 Oct 27 2012, 4:14pm
               Collapse I'd be willing to bet... HiddenSpring 1835 2 Oct 28 2012, 2:05am
                   Collapse yes I am terrifying Elenorflower 1740 1 Oct 28 2012, 3:26pm
                       Sounds like my wife... Sinister71 1740 0 Oct 28 2012, 3:33pm
       None of them works for me :( Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 4576 0 Oct 27 2012, 2:50pm
       Collapse Mine has arrived too! DanielLB 1805 1 Oct 27 2012, 3:54pm
           Contacted Amazon and they still only know of November 8th Carne 1763 0 Oct 27 2012, 4:09pm
       Collapse Nice quotes Eleniel 1782 15 Oct 27 2012, 5:22pm
           Collapse Does it say anything about Bifur and his "calm switch" axe? Estel78 1734 13 Oct 27 2012, 5:38pm
               Collapse OMG the petition is famous! Eleniel 1730 12 Oct 27 2012, 5:55pm
                   Collapse Don't taunt us Ardamírë 2313 7 Oct 27 2012, 6:09pm
                       Collapse Oh, alright, then! Eleniel 2338 6 Oct 27 2012, 6:22pm
                           Thanks!! Ardamírë 2260 0 Oct 27 2012, 6:55pm
                           Poor Bifur DanielLB 2224 0 Oct 27 2012, 7:40pm
                           Collapse So there's definitely going to be a food-fight? Macfeast 1713 1 Oct 28 2012, 3:41pm
                               Food fight imin 1725 0 Oct 28 2012, 3:45pm
                           Collapse A food fight in Rivendell? Shelob'sAppetite 1514 1 Oct 28 2012, 8:05pm
                               Eh. GothmogTheBalrog 1502 0 Oct 28 2012, 8:20pm
                   Collapse Haha! Shelob'sAppetite 2305 3 Oct 27 2012, 6:27pm
                       So, in other words, useless. ;) Estel78 2286 0 Oct 27 2012, 6:39pm
                       Collapse They probably noticed ... Voronwë_the_Faithful 2239 1 Oct 27 2012, 7:18pm
                           Personally, I don't just think it's "kewl" thomasofrohan 2231 0 Oct 27 2012, 7:31pm
           thanks! There&ThereAgain 2094 0 Oct 27 2012, 10:35pm
       Collapse Links still aren't working for me, unfortunately NT thomasofrohan 1671 2 Oct 27 2012, 6:01pm
           Have you tried the ones in post 11 of this thread? Kristin Thompson 1682 0 Oct 27 2012, 6:03pm
           Try the links in a later post from me further down the thread// Eleniel 1703 0 Oct 27 2012, 6:04pm
       Sam's House? Lily Fairbairn 2312 0 Oct 27 2012, 6:18pm
       Collapse Oh lord... Malveth 2263 92 Oct 27 2012, 7:49pm
           Collapse The party is most likely Gandalf meeting a young Bilbo Carne 2242 91 Oct 27 2012, 7:50pm
               Collapse Alas... Malveth 2231 90 Oct 27 2012, 8:14pm
                   Collapse I'm pretty sure we knew that from the day the same crew were making The Hobbit as LOTR There&ThereAgain 2135 88 Oct 27 2012, 10:33pm
                       Collapse I appreciate... Malveth 2139 87 Oct 27 2012, 11:16pm
                           come to the reading room! titanium_hobbit 2037 0 Oct 28 2012, 12:26am
                           Collapse I understand your chagrin There&ThereAgain 2064 73 Oct 28 2012, 12:28am
                               Collapse You're right... Malveth 2012 72 Oct 28 2012, 12:41am
                                   ?? Aragorn22 1905 0 Oct 28 2012, 12:46am
                                   Collapse This already happens Lacrimae Rerum 1680 69 Oct 28 2012, 11:18am
                                       Collapse Missing my point Malveth 1664 68 Oct 28 2012, 1:41pm
                                           Collapse I think Sinister71 1651 3 Oct 28 2012, 1:56pm
                                               Collapse Thanks... Malveth 1670 2 Oct 28 2012, 2:11pm
                                                   You're not alone - geordie 1614 0 Oct 28 2012, 2:38pm
                                                   You're certainly not alone Shelob'sAppetite 1517 0 Oct 28 2012, 8:00pm
                                           Collapse PJ didn't butcher up anything. Estel78 1660 2 Oct 28 2012, 2:12pm
                                               Collapse But there are some who think he did Sinister71 1650 1 Oct 28 2012, 2:21pm
                                                   Comparing the number of pages is very misleading. Estel78 1640 0 Oct 28 2012, 2:28pm
                                           Collapse I'm afraid I don't agree with almost any of this. Lacrimae Rerum 1641 60 Oct 28 2012, 2:13pm
                                               Collapse To me it's about... Malveth 1626 59 Oct 28 2012, 2:40pm
                                                   Collapse Well I certainly would characterise you as "a bunch of reactionary cranks" Lacrimae Rerum 1750 41 Oct 28 2012, 2:54pm
                                                       "Wouldn't" there in the title, apologies. Typo- as I hope is evident from the rest of the post. Lacrimae Rerum 1739 0 Oct 28 2012, 3:23pm
                                                       Collapse I agree with you LR Elenorflower 1728 36 Oct 28 2012, 3:35pm
                                                           Collapse Jackson's view... Eleniel 1731 1 Oct 28 2012, 3:46pm
                                                               I think that's the only way they can be made imin 1692 0 Oct 28 2012, 3:53pm
                                                           Collapse But to add so much outside the actual story Sinister71 1716 33 Oct 28 2012, 3:54pm
                                                               Collapse That is how i have been thinking of it for a while now imin 1683 28 Oct 28 2012, 4:01pm
                                                                   Collapse Thats exactly how I view it Sinister71 1674 27 Oct 28 2012, 4:08pm
                                                                       Collapse Letting go... Eleniel 1697 26 Oct 28 2012, 4:30pm
                                                                           Collapse What bothers me about the way its presented though Sinister71 1668 25 Oct 28 2012, 4:39pm
                                                                               Collapse I don't think this level of literalness is all that common. Lacrimae Rerum 1679 24 Oct 28 2012, 4:59pm
  Collapse Peter Jackson and his crew Sinister71 1664 23 Oct 28 2012, 5:17pm
       Collapse Well you seem to have insights I do not. Lacrimae Rerum 1639 22 Oct 28 2012, 5:42pm
           Collapse Like I said Sinister71 1623 21 Oct 28 2012, 6:15pm
               Collapse Enjoying? tolktolk 1599 10 Oct 28 2012, 6:23pm
                   and why id that so hard to believe? Sinister71 1593 0 Oct 28 2012, 6:32pm
                   Collapse The things aren't mutually exclusive. AinurOlorin 1533 2 Oct 28 2012, 7:29pm
                       Collapse Thank you AO // Sinister71 1531 1 Oct 28 2012, 7:33pm
                           No problem. I understand. lol AinurOlorin 1676 0 Oct 29 2012, 3:41am
                   Collapse You can enjoy something Shelob'sAppetite 1529 5 Oct 28 2012, 8:02pm
                       Collapse I think we as Tolkien fans are a little spoiled... jtarkey 1490 4 Oct 28 2012, 8:55pm
                           Collapse nothing says these aren't going to be Peter Jackson's Star Wars...episode 1, 2, and 3 Sinister71 1827 3 Oct 28 2012, 9:08pm
                               Collapse You see... Malveth 1787 1 Oct 28 2012, 9:15pm
                                   Entirely agreed about this. One can dislike certain choices he made, but unless AinurOlorin 1691 0 Oct 29 2012, 4:10am
                               That's why i said it is possible jtarkey 1779 0 Oct 28 2012, 9:18pm
               Collapse Which you feel will be a "big majority" of the films? I tend to disagree. Lacrimae Rerum 1575 5 Oct 28 2012, 6:30pm
                   Collapse we can agree to disagree Sinister71 1592 4 Oct 28 2012, 6:33pm
                       Collapse Well I look at it from the perspective Lacrimae Rerum 1575 3 Oct 28 2012, 6:51pm
                           Collapse with all the dwarven backstory Sinister71 1556 2 Oct 28 2012, 7:01pm
                               So 96 minutes or more Lacrimae Rerum 1537 0 Oct 28 2012, 7:23pm
                               I know I use this movie a lot as an example but... jtarkey 1528 0 Oct 28 2012, 7:41pm
               Collapse I can only speak for myself but Estel78 1509 3 Oct 28 2012, 8:01pm
                   Do you not see Shelob'sAppetite 1481 0 Oct 28 2012, 8:32pm
                   If you think that The Hobbit doesn't have very much depth Voronwë_the_Faithful 1472 0 Oct 28 2012, 8:46pm
                   Like and yet unlike. I agree, except where I don't. AinurOlorin 1714 0 Oct 29 2012, 3:53am
                                                               Collapse they may be adding things outside the actual story, BUT Elenorflower 1712 3 Oct 28 2012, 4:12pm
                                                                   Collapse I'm not irate Sinister71 1691 2 Oct 28 2012, 4:25pm
                                                                       Collapse "Based on" is implied by the title Voronwë_the_Faithful 1619 1 Oct 28 2012, 6:12pm
                                                                           This is pretty much my sentiment. I do not doubt I will have plenty to. . . they get after you for naughty words on here. . to AinurOlorin 1596 0 Oct 28 2012, 6:26pm
                                                       Collapse Authorial control... Eleniel 1698 2 Oct 28 2012, 4:07pm
                                                           Theres also a chance we wouldn't be Sinister71 1672 0 Oct 28 2012, 4:09pm
                                                           Quite so. The Death of the Author seems to apply across media Lacrimae Rerum 1694 0 Oct 28 2012, 4:48pm
                                                   Collapse Again I agree with your assessment Malveth Sinister71 1753 16 Oct 28 2012, 2:56pm
                                                       Collapse Yes... Malveth 1511 15 Oct 28 2012, 8:39pm
                                                           Collapse Honestly? GothmogTheBalrog 1472 14 Oct 28 2012, 8:45pm
                                                               Collapse Honestly... Malveth 1472 13 Oct 28 2012, 8:53pm
                                                                   Collapse I have no problem with Tauriel Sinister71 1842 12 Oct 28 2012, 9:04pm
                                                                       Collapse LOL!! Malveth 1804 11 Oct 28 2012, 9:10pm
                                                                           Collapse A book has many advantages Lacrimae Rerum 1780 4 Oct 28 2012, 9:21pm
                                                                               Collapse Why do you... Malveth 1769 3 Oct 28 2012, 10:03pm
  Collapse This film! Lacrimae Rerum 1744 2 Oct 28 2012, 10:12pm
       Collapse Yes, but why... Malveth 1736 1 Oct 28 2012, 10:27pm
           What I am arguing is that the Lacrimae Rerum 1713 0 Oct 28 2012, 10:47pm
                                                                           Collapse I think that you need to come to terms with the fact... Otaku-sempai 1616 5 Oct 29 2012, 4:15pm
                                                                               Collapse Personally, I have come to terms with that Shelob'sAppetite 1612 3 Oct 29 2012, 4:25pm
  Collapse Got to disagree with you on that point. Elenorflower 1600 2 Oct 29 2012, 5:15pm
       Collapse I agree with you Sinister71 1527 1 Oct 30 2012, 12:32am
           Sinister through the Looking Glass Elenorflower 1490 0 Oct 30 2012, 12:32pm
                                                                               I have "come to terms"... Malveth 1629 0 Oct 29 2012, 4:40pm
                                   Buy the rights to it and you can do whatever you want with it. That's why they're called "rights" Oin K 1104 0 Nov 5 2012, 10:07pm
                           Collapse Hobbit Aragorn22 2031 3 Oct 28 2012, 12:33am
                               Collapse I understand... Malveth 2019 2 Oct 28 2012, 12:41am
                                   Collapse all good! There&ThereAgain 1992 1 Oct 28 2012, 12:42am
                                       The irony is... Malveth 2018 0 Oct 28 2012, 12:45am
                           Collapse About the book tripecac 2032 4 Oct 28 2012, 12:43am
                               Apologies.. Malveth 1941 0 Oct 28 2012, 12:46am
                               I'm curious about this as well Carne 1840 0 Oct 28 2012, 2:41am
                               Collapse Sibley LotR Books Eleniel 1765 1 Oct 28 2012, 7:57am
                                   Contents Eleniel 1750 0 Oct 28 2012, 8:40am
                           Collapse "Desecrate"? "Corrupting The Hobbit"? Beutlin 1937 1 Oct 28 2012, 1:10am
                               Beutlin Lusitano 1844 0 Oct 28 2012, 2:17am
                           I'll say I whole heartedly agree and leave it at that Sinister71 1879 0 Oct 28 2012, 1:33am
                   I'm not sure that Lacrimae Rerum 2096 0 Oct 27 2012, 11:00pm
       Collapse Did you order the visual companion as well Eleniel? / DanielLB 2127 5 Oct 27 2012, 10:24pm
           Collapse No, but I dare say I'll pick it up in the stores later... Eleniel 1744 4 Oct 28 2012, 7:47am
               Collapse Ahh. I ordered both! DanielLB 1753 3 Oct 28 2012, 7:49am
                   Collapse And hopefully Shelob'sAppetite 1741 1 Oct 28 2012, 7:50am
                       I'll try my hardest to hand out spoilers DanielLB 1689 0 Oct 28 2012, 4:55pm
                   Cool! Eleniel 1730 0 Oct 28 2012, 8:47am
       I've had it pre-ordered grammaboodawg 1728 0 Oct 28 2012, 3:23pm
       Collapse Spoilers from the Visual Companion DanielLB 1788 35 Oct 29 2012, 9:06am
           Collapse The 3 trolls are DanielLB 1693 31 Oct 29 2012, 9:11am
               Collapse Glad you've got your books now! Eleniel 1692 28 Oct 29 2012, 9:29am
                   Collapse Totally missed the Troll news DanielLB 1607 27 Oct 29 2012, 7:37pm
                       Collapse Further spoilers Eleniel 1516 26 Oct 30 2012, 2:06pm
                           Collapse The various interview that have been emerging lately Shelob'sAppetite 1491 1 Oct 30 2012, 4:02pm
                               Psychic? dave_lf 1440 0 Oct 30 2012, 10:46pm
                           Collapse Hmmm ... I don't like the sound of the Great Goblin spoiler DanielLB 1477 23 Oct 30 2012, 6:24pm
                               Collapse What Great Goblin spoiler? Are his pustules constantly popping/oozing or something? // Captain Salt 1504 1 Oct 30 2012, 6:45pm
                                   You're not far off! / DanielLB 1456 0 Oct 30 2012, 7:11pm
                               Collapse p123, Interview with Bifur... Eleniel 1480 20 Oct 30 2012, 7:19pm
                                   Collapse There's a picture of that in the visual companion! / DanielLB 1474 2 Oct 30 2012, 8:31pm
                                       Collapse Well then... Eleniel 1447 1 Oct 30 2012, 8:37pm
                                           I'm using an iPhone so ill keep it short and sweet DanielLB 1449 0 Oct 30 2012, 9:19pm
                                   Collapse I'm not quite sure I understand Shelob'sAppetite 1452 16 Oct 30 2012, 8:37pm
                                       It's rare I know something that others do not! DanielLB 1462 0 Oct 30 2012, 9:16pm
                                       Collapse Sorry, SA... Eleniel 1490 14 Oct 30 2012, 10:06pm
                                           Collapse Oh I really hope the Goblins DON"T sing Sinister71 1415 2 Oct 31 2012, 1:28am
                                               Collapse smash whip crack Lusitano 1472 1 Oct 31 2012, 2:54am
                                                   I'm not a total purist Sinister71 1401 0 Oct 31 2012, 2:58am
                                           Collapse Perfectly consistent with PJ's tendency to paint a Mona Lisa Shelob'sAppetite 1414 1 Oct 31 2012, 3:34am
                                               Let's hope it is edited out! / DanielLB 1386 0 Oct 31 2012, 7:56am
                                           Collapse I think he's being truthful about both spoilers DanielLB 1402 8 Oct 31 2012, 7:57am
                                               Collapse "Snap! Clap! The black crack" dave_lf 1398 7 Oct 31 2012, 12:43pm
                                                   Collapse Plop! Slop! Fardragon 1364 6 Oct 31 2012, 1:18pm
                                                       Collapse Goes the brown log. DanielLB 1159 5 Oct 31 2012, 2:16pm
                                                           Collapse It's a good job.... Eleniel 1147 4 Oct 31 2012, 2:41pm
                                                               Collapse The Great Poop Lusitano 1143 2 Oct 31 2012, 2:46pm
                                                                   Collapse I've actually discussed with people what Orcs do when they have to relieve themselves... Captain Salt 1136 1 Oct 31 2012, 8:07pm
                                                                       It would've been the same for the Fellowship as well DanielLB 1115 0 Nov 1 2012, 9:17am
                                                               As soon as people see this scene, there will be poo puns aplenty! / DanielLB 1132 0 Oct 31 2012, 7:55pm
               Collapse Great to finally hear who is voicing them Sinister71 1542 1 Oct 30 2012, 12:35am
                   My little theory was that Ian McKellen would voice them DanielLB 1493 0 Oct 30 2012, 10:57am
           Great Shelob'sAppetite 1609 0 Oct 29 2012, 4:23pm
           Collapse Is Thranduil still in the visual companion? AinurOlorin 1592 1 Oct 29 2012, 8:09pm
               No mention of any Mirkwood elves / DanielLB 1581 0 Oct 29 2012, 8:48pm
       Next Tuesday seems so far away... // Captain Salt 1464 0 Oct 30 2012, 6:52pm

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