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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Collapse From Variety: Unions to thesps:" Don't work on The Hobbit" macfalk 11125 329 Sep 25 2010, 7:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kangi Ska)
       Collapse My amatuer opinion is Tim 5815 1 Sep 25 2010, 8:34pm
           hear, hear bowencm 2970 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
       " "The Hobbit" producers have indicated they intend to make "imminent" offers to performers" Voronwë_the_Faithful 5654 0 Sep 25 2010, 8:40pm
       Collapse It's an attempt at a boycott of sorts Altaira 5516 1 Sep 25 2010, 9:17pm
           More info/links in here, too... Altaira 5475 0 Sep 25 2010, 9:27pm
       Collapse I've got the rest of this story Kristin Thompson 5657 6 Sep 25 2010, 9:46pm
           Collapse More hurdles ahead? Elven 5349 5 Sep 25 2010, 11:43pm
               Collapse Peter directing? Kristin Thompson 5361 4 Sep 26 2010, 12:29am
                   Well if New Zealand caves to unions Tim 5288 0 Sep 26 2010, 12:36am
                   Collapse Sorry Kristin ... Elven 5318 2 Sep 26 2010, 6:31am
                       Collapse Peter, Fran, and Philippa as union members Kristin Thompson 3105 1 Sep 26 2010, 7:15pm
                           Thanks Kristin Elven 2758 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:54pm
       Collapse Does anyone else just want to scream at this point? dormouse 5420 32 Sep 25 2010, 9:55pm
           Collapse Like crawling over broken glass Eruonen 5330 1 Sep 25 2010, 10:40pm
               Jeez duats 5249 0 Sep 25 2010, 11:23pm
           Collapse Is this some kind of a joke??? Pipe Dream 5366 29 Sep 26 2010, 1:06am
               Collapse Oh the humanity!!! Captain Salt 5219 28 Sep 26 2010, 2:38am
                   Collapse The whole point ... Hellmistress 5255 27 Sep 26 2010, 3:47am
                       Well said. / SirDennisC 5075 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:06am
                       Collapse Yes squire 5229 25 Sep 26 2010, 4:27am
                           Absolutely. N.E. Brigand 5192 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:33am
                           Also well said SirDennisC 5057 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:44am
                           Collapse thumbs up to this (and Hellmistress's) // Magpie 5194 1 Sep 26 2010, 4:47am
                               union merlwynd 5171 0 Sep 26 2010, 5:31am
                           well said merlwynd 5102 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:37am
                           The Collective is only as good as its jurisdiction Tim 2862 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:01pm
                           Collapse Thank you Squire Gildor 2773 10 Sep 26 2010, 11:09pm
                               Collapse Aw c'mon now Tim 2635 8 Sep 26 2010, 11:29pm
                                   Collapse I don't know him personally Gildor 2553 7 Sep 27 2010, 3:02pm
                                       Collapse Just to clarify ... Elven 2396 6 Sep 27 2010, 3:45pm
                                           Collapse Jumped Lark 2468 5 Sep 27 2010, 3:57pm
                                               Collapse As Im aware ... Elven 2393 3 Sep 27 2010, 4:27pm
                                                   Collapse Dunce hat Lark 2498 2 Sep 27 2010, 4:43pm
                                                       Collapse PJ claims he's paying fairly Tim 2476 1 Sep 27 2010, 4:49pm
                                                           I understand that Lark 2459 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:07pm
                                               Sorry, have I missed something... dormouse 2478 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:41pm
                               Annnnd PJ isn't even in control of the situation Tim 2696 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:36pm
                           Collapse As a Union Worker grammaboodawg 2619 7 Sep 27 2010, 2:17am
                               Collapse Heh heh like I said it's not simple Tim 2622 5 Sep 27 2010, 3:13am
                                   Nothing is perfect: Kangi Ska 2659 0 Sep 27 2010, 3:41am
                                   Collapse Aside: I've seen "Waiting for Superman" entmaiden 2369 3 Sep 27 2010, 10:09pm
                                       Collapse Thanks for your review entmaiden Tim 2407 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:28pm
                                           I saw it at a film festival in the US, but entmaiden 2442 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:32pm
                                       And aside on the aside: NBC News grammaboodawg 2350 0 Sep 28 2010, 12:25am
                               Labor pains?! Sunflower 2431 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:33am
       who do they mean by "producers" Glaurung63 5254 0 Sep 25 2010, 11:49pm
       the more I think about this... dormouse 5154 0 Sep 26 2010, 3:11pm
       Collapse Historically: Unions came into existence when Owners, Management & Government Kangi Ska 2913 14 Sep 26 2010, 3:58pm
           Collapse Power corrupts, even unions Voronwë_the_Faithful 2885 13 Sep 26 2010, 4:14pm
               Collapse The leaders ... Hellmistress 2821 9 Sep 26 2010, 5:06pm
                   Collapse Still. It's the worst possible timing. If the wages are bad, pick another job. The unions are putting one of the most anticipated movies on film history at stake. It should be an honor to work on The Hobbit. I'd do it for free, and gladly so. macfalk 2866 8 Sep 26 2010, 6:48pm
                       Collapse Sorry, but this is irrelevant ... Hellmistress 2884 6 Sep 26 2010, 9:20pm
                           Collapse But, if that were true Altaira 2865 4 Sep 26 2010, 10:36pm
                               Collapse Independent contractor ... Elven 2702 3 Sep 26 2010, 11:45pm
                                   Collapse You go! Altaira 2609 2 Sep 27 2010, 12:59am
                                       Hats off to you too... Elven 2551 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:50am
                                       I'm always grammaboodawg 2462 0 Sep 28 2010, 12:34am
                           sneaky suspicions ... Elven 2730 0 Sep 27 2010, 12:09am
                       So you say Gildor 2702 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:14pm
               Collapse Humans are fallible Kangi Ska 2793 2 Sep 26 2010, 5:57pm
                   Collapse So true, that's why even people who work for unions have unions. / SirDennisC 2815 1 Sep 26 2010, 9:54pm
                       Yes indeed ... Hellmistress 2834 0 Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
       Collapse Peter's response to the unions' demands Kristin Thompson 2968 19 Sep 26 2010, 6:41pm
           Collapse It seems this is the key paragraph: Ataahua 2925 1 Sep 26 2010, 6:55pm
               From a quick bit of Googling Ataahua 2864 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:42pm
           Yikes! Pipe Dream 2813 0 Sep 26 2010, 6:56pm
           Collapse PJ needed to step in and get out his side and he did - good job Tim 2875 11 Sep 26 2010, 7:27pm
               Collapse People who work for PJ are very loyal Kristin Thompson 2875 1 Sep 26 2010, 7:39pm
                   Good on PJ then Tim 2775 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:44pm
               Collapse I have to wonder Altaira 2757 3 Sep 26 2010, 8:21pm
                   Collapse Not quite. Ataahua 2771 1 Sep 26 2010, 8:52pm
                       Ah, thanks. Then it comes down to whether they are contractors or employees - and there is precedence Altaira 3182 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:08pm
                   As dormouse said above SirDennisC 2727 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:06pm
               Collapse It's a lonely battle you wage here Tim Kirly 3542 4 Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
                   Collapse Heh heh I don't feel lonely ;-) Tim 2860 1 Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
                       unions Kirly 2545 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:08am
                   Collapse I agree with Tim as well dormouse 2947 1 Sep 26 2010, 11:03pm
                       I agree with that. just the chosen target of the day. (nft) Kirly 2604 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:09am
           Oh boy. Ainu Laire 2649 0 Sep 27 2010, 12:57am
           RE: PJ's response Pete 2700 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:47am
           Collapse McKellen & co. support a boycott of the film? Silmaril 2807 1 Sep 27 2010, 9:11am
               I note the NZ contracts didn't stop them from working on LOTR. / Ataahua 2791 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:25pm
       Collapse If I were Peter, I would just throw my hands in the air and say... DarthNeeson 2921 29 Sep 26 2010, 10:12pm
           Collapse Some times it takes a lot of patience Kangi Ska 2686 28 Sep 27 2010, 12:38am
               Collapse Amarth faeg! :S Ruijor 2647 27 Sep 27 2010, 1:01am
                   Collapse A move would require another long delay Eruonen 2781 26 Sep 27 2010, 1:17am
                       Collapse Europe MouthofSauron 2592 25 Sep 27 2010, 6:20am
                           Collapse To Unionise or not to Unionise ... Hellmistress 2561 24 Sep 27 2010, 7:00am
                               MEAA was struck off the list of Registered Societies this month - it can't negotiate as a registered union.... Elven 2675 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:12am
                               Collapse Can this be... Sunflower 2209 22 Sep 29 2010, 8:26am
                                   Collapse I've been wondering that too.... dormouse 2509 21 Sep 29 2010, 8:42am
                                       Collapse PS.... dormouse 2417 19 Sep 29 2010, 10:11am
                                           Collapse Hobbiton flyover. Pioneer 2859 18 Sep 29 2010, 10:24am
                                               Oh that is awesome! Earl 2585 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:49am
                                               Fer sure Hobbitton is moving right along - let's hope they get to use it. // Tim 2476 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:03pm
                                               Collapse Thanks for posting Eruonen 2491 11 Sep 29 2010, 2:11pm
                                                   Collapse To heck with it I'm emailing SAG what have I got to lose? Tim 2479 10 Sep 29 2010, 2:32pm
                                                       Collapse I also sent an email... Eruonen 2480 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:17pm
                                                           Cool! Even NZ Actor's Equity isn't making the claim that The Hobbit is non-union. Tim 2569 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:25pm
                                                       Collapse I agree.... Gorgori 3003 7 Sep 29 2010, 3:24pm
                                                           Collapse A trust fund for the actors and crew - hmmm I like this idea - Voronwe where are you? Let's set this up. ;-) Tim 2567 3 Sep 29 2010, 3:37pm
                                                               Collapse I think it would be better if... Eruonen 2623 2 Sep 29 2010, 3:41pm
                                                                   Collapse That's a good idea too Tim 2476 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:47pm
                                                                       Oh, just send the money to me geordie 2407 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:15pm
                                                           Collapse Welcome to the Matrix...I mean the boards. It is good to hear from you. Kangi Ska 2563 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:53pm
                                                               Rather, "welcome to the Thunderdome, bleep" SirDennisC 2357 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:59pm
                                                           Welcome, Gorgori! Patty 2686 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:27pm
                                               Collapse Skips over all the political wrangling Garfeimao 2922 3 Sep 30 2010, 6:32am
                                                   Collapse I thought it looked behind schedule. Pipe Dream 3093 2 Sep 30 2010, 8:33am
                                                       I got the same feeling... Earl 2904 0 Sep 30 2010, 9:52am
                                                       Four months is a long time squire 2330 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:31pm
                                       I wonder if any of that footage will be in The Hobbit EE extras? SirDennisC 2244 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:22pm
       Unions are good, Galadriel's ring 2577 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:55am
       Collapse What makes me REALLY angry about this... Iolite 2748 8 Sep 27 2010, 9:04am
           Thanks for chiming in Iolite. Ataahua 2546 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:24pm
           Collapse Yes, an informative post though I find it odd SirDennisC 2497 6 Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
               Well said, Sir Dennis ... Hellmistress 2508 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
               Collapse We do have contracts and laws to enforce them... Iolite 2430 4 Sep 27 2010, 9:21pm
                   Nicely articulated, Iolite Altaira 2334 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:00pm
                   Collapse Implying/Non-binding SirDennisC 2418 2 Sep 27 2010, 10:41pm
                       Collapse Recommended guidelines only... Iolite 2415 1 Sep 28 2010, 12:13am
                           Fascinating SirDennisC 2839 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:04am
       Collapse Europe? Whoo-hoo! geordie 2636 1 Sep 27 2010, 9:12am
           unions merlwynd 2598 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:22am
       Where's BoB? He hasn't chimed in on this yet...!? sphdle1 2568 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:43am
       Collapse Here is Jackson's reponse on Variety sphdle1 2638 4 Sep 27 2010, 11:57am
           Collapse All is resumed to this... Dreamaster 2598 3 Sep 27 2010, 1:19pm
               Collapse Eastern Europe? macfalk 2566 1 Sep 27 2010, 1:32pm
                   Welcome to Latvia Bilbo Baggins ... ;-) // Elven 2425 0 Sep 27 2010, 2:50pm
               Amen. Sunflower 2553 0 Sep 29 2010, 9:20am
       Collapse Update: MEAA Meeting planned in Auckland tomorrow ... Elven 2517 2 Sep 27 2010, 3:13pm
           Collapse What do you think - do I understand this right? Tim 2437 1 Sep 27 2010, 5:01pm
               Yes Lark 2452 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:12pm
       Collapse I'm glad performers are being protected. Lark 2498 1 Sep 27 2010, 3:40pm
           Well the majority of New Zealanders (actors) are not union Tim 2508 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:44pm
       Collapse What we hear is that it's illegal in New Zealand FangornFriend 2550 26 Sep 27 2010, 5:29pm
           Collapse Can't happen? Lark 2512 22 Sep 27 2010, 5:40pm
               Collapse This doesn't seem about wages Tim 2628 14 Sep 27 2010, 5:57pm
                   Collapse I did Lark 2471 13 Sep 27 2010, 7:01pm
                       Peter Jackson did not say "he can't do what they ask (pay fairly)" Kangi Ska 2504 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:16pm
                       Sorry, Lark dormouse 2580 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:18pm
                       Collapse Others have accurately pointed out you mis-represent what PJ says in his statement but I'll add my two cents as well Tim 2504 10 Sep 27 2010, 7:55pm
                           Collapse ugh Lark 2419 5 Sep 27 2010, 8:06pm
                               Saying he can't negotiate with the unions Tim 2483 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:16pm
                               Thank-you Altaira 2537 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
                               Collapse I do believe you hav misunderstood parts of Peter's starement. Kangi Ska 2400 2 Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
                                   Collapse Yes Lark 2428 1 Sep 27 2010, 8:53pm
                                       Well thanks for being honest about your perspective :-) Tim 2417 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:24pm
                           Collapse My guess is that this will be a flash in the pan Eruonen 2599 3 Sep 27 2010, 8:07pm
                               Collapse I hope you're right and that this is "much ado about nothing". Tim 2366 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:29pm
                                   Sadly, I'm not convinced that it is Voronwë_the_Faithful 2481 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:42pm
                               A team of international labor lawyers will straighten this out. Kangi Ska 2364 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:43pm
               Collapse Sounds reasonable to me Gildor 2359 6 Sep 28 2010, 4:05pm
                   Collapse Nothing is reasonable or unreasonable yet Tim 2341 5 Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                       Collapse Sounds reasonable to me... Gildor 2283 4 Sep 28 2010, 5:02pm
                           Collapse Two to tango normally but in my mind this isn't totally normal Tim 2232 3 Sep 28 2010, 5:15pm
                               Collapse You keep rehashing stuff Gildor 2320 2 Sep 29 2010, 12:33am
                                   Collapse Then I guess I need to repeat Tim 2322 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:35am
                                       You have and are understood! Gildor 2354 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:37am
           Yes Tim 2856 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:49pm
           Collapse Given that any employment law change Ataahua 2509 1 Sep 27 2010, 6:36pm
               I totally agree. Lark 2407 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:19pm
       Collapse There are three video's about this subject at TV New Zealand, Theodred 2530 8 Sep 27 2010, 5:37pm
           Collapse The reel world squire 2510 7 Sep 27 2010, 7:04pm
               Collapse True independent contractors can take on more than one job at a time, and work their own hours and provide their own equipment. Tim 2544 6 Sep 27 2010, 7:39pm
                   Collapse Everybody's mileage may differ squire 2519 5 Sep 27 2010, 8:37pm
                       Collapse It came across as maybe you implying - but that's why I asked because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt Tim 2425 3 Sep 27 2010, 10:16pm
                           Read Ataahua's posts Altaira 2362 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
                           Collapse In the US, it's a facts and circumstances test entmaiden 2433 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:31pm
                               Oh I don't doubt squire's right Tim 2446 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:36pm
                       NZ vs US Law entmaiden 2363 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
       Collapse Karl Urban backs the union's stance Ataahua 2449 13 Sep 27 2010, 10:50pm
           Collapse Any particulars on this? Tim 2431 12 Sep 27 2010, 10:59pm
               Collapse See inside Altaira 2345 5 Sep 27 2010, 11:13pm
                   Thank you thank you Altaira Tim 2358 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:20pm
                   Collapse One might also need to consider the jurisdiction of the court that decided the case. entmaiden 2378 1 Sep 27 2010, 11:22pm
                       Indeed our land is a Lawyer's Paradise. Tim 2306 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:29pm
                   Collapse A model maker is not an actor squire 2436 1 Sep 27 2010, 11:43pm
                       I require an expert NZ lawyer panel post haste! Tim 2324 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:49pm
               Collapse Totally different Elladan 2352 5 Sep 27 2010, 11:17pm
                   Collapse That's cool Tim 2357 4 Sep 27 2010, 11:27pm
                       Collapse Hmm computer error I guess Elladan 2627 3 Sep 28 2010, 3:32pm
                           Collapse With so few big films in NZ, there is a lot of project-specific employment even in scenic shops squire 2371 2 Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                               Good points squire Tim 2291 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:21pm
                               True. Elladan 2259 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:49pm
       Collapse ** Update from the Home Page: Cate Blanchett and Sir Ian McKellen may decline Hobbit roles in pay row Altaira 2487 14 Sep 28 2010, 1:13am
           Collapse I agree this is just what we've already read it's a re-hash. // Tim 2930 1 Sep 28 2010, 1:19am
               Cool with me. Pioneer 2940 0 Sep 28 2010, 1:58am
           Big scary stuff to panic the herd.// Kangi Ska 2876 0 Sep 28 2010, 2:51am
           Collapse Yahoo news has put it on their homepage... weaver 2861 7 Sep 28 2010, 2:53am
               Collapse Who wrote this fo Yahoo Movies? Kangi Ska 2898 5 Sep 28 2010, 3:06am
                   "two whole movies based in just the hobbit-land"? squire 2863 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:18am
                   I dearly wish I could comment on the article Tim 2789 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:27am
                   Collapse My jaw is stuck open--somebody help!! Ethel Duath 2853 1 Sep 28 2010, 3:39am
                       Nah... Eowyn of Penns Woods 2732 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:12am
                   Will Leitch: Author of the Bunk Kangi Ska 2705 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:07pm
               And there's our first neeker-breeker article for The Hobbit. / Ataahua 2188 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:57pm
           All this aside, that is one gorgeous shot of Cate Blanchett attached to the article. / SirDennisC 2793 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:14am
           Collapse I think they both know grammaboodawg 2715 1 Sep 28 2010, 9:14am
               wow!!! merlwynd 2697 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:40am
       Collapse Let me duck out by saying... Lark 2849 2 Sep 28 2010, 2:57am
           Not at all SirDennisC 2816 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:22am
           Sorted out? Sorted out? macfalk 2347 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:06pm
       Collapse Offical response from the Studio Bound 3180 39 Sep 28 2010, 9:03am
           Collapse puhhh... this is a serious conflict!! Silmaril 2782 9 Sep 28 2010, 9:46am
               Collapse SAG's Global Rule One Pipe Dream 2833 8 Sep 28 2010, 10:02am
                   I don't see them expelling Tim 2749 0 Sep 28 2010, 1:04pm
                   Collapse That's irrelevant in this case Altaira 2722 6 Sep 28 2010, 3:30pm
                       Collapse It seems ironic, really.... dormouse 2350 5 Sep 28 2010, 4:01pm
                           Collapse Indeed Tim 2320 4 Sep 28 2010, 4:03pm
                               Collapse Right, the union sees this as its biggest and best chance Eruonen 2270 3 Sep 28 2010, 4:10pm
                                   Collapse I agree ... Let's hope sphdle1 2250 2 Sep 28 2010, 4:45pm
                                       Collapse Any news of a New Zealand Government response? Tim 2241 1 Sep 28 2010, 4:59pm
                                           especially since sphdle1 2218 0 Sep 28 2010, 5:14pm
           Not looking good ... Jackson can't be happy right now... sphdle1 2710 0 Sep 28 2010, 11:39am
           Studios answer ti big scary stuff. Kangi Ska 2665 0 Sep 28 2010, 2:33pm
           Collapse Yup. The Studios and PJ are sympatico Tim 2634 17 Sep 28 2010, 3:25pm
               Collapse There's a time and a place sphdle1 2286 16 Sep 28 2010, 4:40pm
                   Collapse And yet SirDennisC 2404 15 Sep 28 2010, 8:55pm
                       Collapse A business seeks to maximize profit - the prime mandate for its existence Eruonen 2465 9 Sep 28 2010, 9:12pm
                           Collapse That doesn't make it right SirDennisC 2429 8 Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
                               Collapse Indeed. Eruonen 2419 7 Sep 28 2010, 9:44pm
                                   Collapse An army must move from water to water SirDennisC 2425 5 Sep 28 2010, 10:43pm
                                       Collapse Everything you say makes sense sphdle1 2473 4 Sep 29 2010, 11:35am
                                           Collapse We should remember squire 2481 3 Sep 29 2010, 1:28pm
                                               Well said Tim 2447 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:28pm
                                               I think you misunderstood sphdle1 2640 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:19pm
                                               Remember... Sunflower 2243 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:52pm
                                   I live in Canada sphdle1 2527 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:42am
                       Collapse Whether it sits right or not facts are facts Tim 2457 2 Sep 28 2010, 9:33pm
                           Collapse A Transylvanian Hobbit might be very interesting...HaHaHaHaHaHa! Kangi Ska 2404 1 Sep 28 2010, 9:55pm
                               Just a thought... cameragod 2308 0 Sep 28 2010, 10:20pm
                       Yes I agree Tim 2302 0 Sep 28 2010, 10:57pm
                       I'm not talking about the little guy sphdle1 2461 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:18am
           Collapse The horror! Will this ever come to a good end? // Compa_Mighty 2275 8 Sep 29 2010, 12:47am
               Collapse One word... Kangi Ska 2339 7 Sep 29 2010, 12:49am
                   Collapse *writes.. Tim 2319 5 Sep 29 2010, 12:52am
                       Collapse Tolkien cioned the word Kangi Ska 2449 2 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                           Collapse Sorry I knew that - was a lame "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" joke. ;-) // Tim 2308 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:58am
                               OK...my mind was not moving in that direction Kangi Ska 2369 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:02am
                       Collapse eucatastrophe Mooseboy018 2358 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                           The ride has made me a bit queezy Kangi Ska 2345 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:59am
                   (EU) catastrophe indeed. macfalk 2170 0 Sep 29 2010, 7:43am
       Collapse *Update* ''Talk to us, Kiwi actors tell Hobbit film's producers'' Rogash 2377 13 Sep 28 2010, 5:49pm
           Collapse It means we're right back where we started from Altaira 2248 2 Sep 28 2010, 5:53pm
               NZ Actor's equity's response to PJ statement Tim 2247 0 Sep 28 2010, 6:45pm
               And PJ's claims that they aren't even a Union is presented with a genuine non-answer Tim 2232 0 Sep 28 2010, 6:50pm
           Collapse To make matters more interesting Tim 2298 6 Sep 28 2010, 6:18pm
               Collapse That must be why Altaira 2232 5 Sep 28 2010, 6:48pm
                   Collapse Interesting I wonder if that helps their union status Tim 2227 1 Sep 28 2010, 6:54pm
                       I believe... Ruijor 2163 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:45pm
                   They also can't seem to agree how to classify The Hobbit (union or non-union) Tim 2206 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:55pm
                   Collapse MEAA "has no legal status" in New Zealand Eruonen 2495 1 Sep 28 2010, 8:18pm
                       Killing the Golden Goose Eruonen 2506 0 Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
           Collapse Technically, there are no producers. entmaiden 2361 2 Sep 29 2010, 4:18am
               Collapse I agree this is an extremely weird situation Tim 2275 1 Sep 29 2010, 4:34am
                   meeting or not? Silmaril 2236 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:49am
       Collapse A strong suggestion: Kangi Ska 2536 2 Sep 28 2010, 8:15pm
           *Relaxes* Tenses up* *Relaxes* Tim 2367 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
           Yeah, sure... Sunflower 2571 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:46am
       Collapse Links to two strong articles from NZ Stuff Kangi Ska 2438 1 Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
           A third article from NZ Stuff: Karl Urban backs union Kangi Ska 2402 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:49pm
       Collapse Excellent article on Scoop.co.nz about this whole debacle... Cad Monkey 2381 21 Sep 28 2010, 11:28pm
           The clearest information I have seen.// Kangi Ska 2293 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:06am
           Collapse Highly informative and very reasonable. Ataahua 2336 14 Sep 29 2010, 12:09am
               Collapse What I found curious Tim 2367 13 Sep 29 2010, 12:32am
                   One of the two is wrong Kangi Ska 2328 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:46am
                   Collapse Your second quote is correct Voronwë_the_Faithful 2377 10 Sep 29 2010, 2:04am
                       Collapse Good find. And it does bring the Scoop article into question. Kangi Ska 2381 1 Sep 29 2010, 2:11am
                           I think it may also be the fastest moving thread I have seen Voronwë_the_Faithful 2295 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:21am
                       Collapse Admittedly I haven't weighed through the entire thing Tim 2290 7 Sep 29 2010, 2:30am
                           I would trust Voronwë the Faithful's reading Kangi Ska 2281 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:11am
                           Collapse I'm no lawyer but Envinyatar 2297 5 Sep 29 2010, 3:16am
                               OK I surrender!// Kangi Ska 2262 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:20am
                               You are correct; my apologies Voronwë_the_Faithful 2288 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:30am
                               Yes, you're right. Kimi 2210 0 Sep 29 2010, 5:27am
                               Collapse This vindicates the Scoop article that I swooned over(I guess) Kangi Ska 2496 1 Sep 29 2010, 2:20pm
                                   Yes Voronwë_the_Faithful 2725 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:34pm
                   Both are true - no, really :-) Kimi 2288 0 Sep 29 2010, 5:18am
           Great find Eruonen 2367 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:23am
           Good Scoop CINE 2390 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:27am
           If tax incentives are the carrot SirDennisC 2220 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:35am
           Collapse The writer seems to suggest sphdle1 2426 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:11pm
               I may have mistook Campbell's meaning - SirDennisC 2271 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:02pm
       Dead end durfalas 2242 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:16am
       Collapse My ultimate frustration with this duats 2287 9 Sep 29 2010, 7:35pm
           Collapse Also duats 2184 5 Sep 29 2010, 7:52pm
               Collapse I would assume NZ has free speech Eruonen 2126 3 Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
                   I don't think NZ is as free in speech as the U.S. Eruonen 2092 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:37pm
                   Collapse Possibly. Ataahua 2118 1 Sep 29 2010, 8:46pm
                       Let us hope this evil genie does not surface! Eruonen 2097 0 Sep 29 2010, 9:01pm
               Perhaps, but Silverlode 2162 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
           Agree with many of your points SirDennisC 2200 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:22pm
           Collapse Not completely out of production's hands Gildor 2284 1 Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
               Actually that process has already started Tim 2323 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:47am
       Collapse Now Kiwi politicians are getting involved... Cad Monkey 2203 22 Sep 29 2010, 9:23pm
           Collapse And the New Zealand government dormouse 2122 21 Sep 29 2010, 9:50pm
               Collapse Since NZ politician know what is at stake... Eruonen 2023 20 Sep 29 2010, 10:21pm
                   Let us hope... Kangi Ska 2075 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:28pm
                   Collapse I predict you're right Tim 2099 18 Sep 29 2010, 10:29pm
                       Collapse Not all politicians... dormouse 2033 17 Sep 29 2010, 10:45pm
                           Collapse Ah yes....goodwill Eruonen 2057 15 Sep 29 2010, 11:01pm
                               Collapse Not to be too cruel squire 2186 14 Sep 30 2010, 12:27am
                                   Collapse I hoot twice for Weta: a truly global film asset.// Kangi Ska 1968 1 Sep 30 2010, 12:37am
                                       Hoot hoot! // Tim 2482 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:58am
                                   Collapse Ideological maybe - power most certainly oh "squire the cruel" ;-) Tim 2054 9 Sep 30 2010, 12:40am
                                       Collapse Drat those SirDennisC 2193 8 Sep 30 2010, 12:53am
                                           Collapse Don't fall over dead from shock Tim 2461 7 Sep 30 2010, 12:56am
                                               Collapse I have problems with really big unions Kangi Ska 2122 6 Sep 30 2010, 1:18am
                                                   Collapse Good and evil? squire 2059 5 Sep 30 2010, 2:13am
                                                       Good and evil are real as is New Zealand Kangi Ska 2051 0 Sep 30 2010, 2:21am
                                                       Collapse To paraphrase Aragorn Voronwë_the_Faithful 3029 3 Sep 30 2010, 3:23am
                                                           Collapse Right, thank you for that squire 2368 2 Sep 30 2010, 3:51am
                                                               The good dogs taste better. (its a dog eat dog world) Kangi Ska 2731 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:57am
                                                               I knew you were going to ask that :-) Voronwë_the_Faithful 2861 0 Sep 30 2010, 4:16am
                                   When the dog finishes eating the dog Kangi Ska 2017 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
                                   Absolutely, that is my point Eruonen 2167 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:01am
                           Hmmm this article sheds a tad more light thanks dormouse Tim 2160 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:04pm
       Collapse Here is the relevant NZ law.... Iolite 2092 2 Sep 30 2010, 1:41am
           Thanks Iolite! Tim 2101 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:46am
           This must really throw SirDennisC 2141 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:57am
       Welcome to Azerbajdzjan, Bilbo Baggins. macfalk 2888 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:09pm
       My guess Zizix 2859 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:31pm
     Collapse Alright you thread-hijackers ;-) Tim 2753 5 Sep 30 2010, 2:54pm
           Collapse SAG will lay back until the smoke clears. Kangi Ska 2738 4 Sep 30 2010, 3:08pm
               Collapse Correction: SPADA not SNAGA Kangi Ska 2417 2 Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm
                   Collapse Ha ha I thought you were making fun of SPADA Tim 3277 1 Sep 30 2010, 3:21pm
                       It was Freudian slip. Kangi Ska 3903 0 Sep 30 2010, 5:23pm
               MEAA Pipe Dream 2650 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm

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