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  Expand entire thread A summary of 'The Hobbit' casting discussion so far MrCere 1994337 382 Oct 20 2010, 2:24am Jump to last post in thread (by Calafalas)

  Expand entire thread Elijah Wood will be in 'The Hobbit' News from Bree 4693047 378 Jan 14 2011, 1:06am Jump to last post in thread (by meltsar)

  Expand entire thread 3 Hobbit Films Confirmed Lily Brambleburr 119687 377 Aug 15 2012, 10:08am Jump to last post in thread (by Zubeneschamali)

  Expand entire thread The SLIGHTLY Extended Edition tripecac 35151 370 Aug 10 2013, 2:36am Jump to last post in thread (by tripecac)

  Expand entire thread New Prod Blog architecthis 276954 365 Aug 9 2012, 4:27pm Jump to last post in thread (by QuackingTroll)

  Expand entire thread Hobbit Stays in New Zealand!!! RobNZ 188544 363 Oct 28 2010, 1:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by ShyElf)

  Expand entire thread Entertainment Weekly: "The Scroll" shows 10 hobbit scenes, dwarves, trolls, wargs, Beorn in bear form and more! Carne 440481 354 Jul 14 2012, 9:07am Jump to last post in thread (by redgiraffe)

  Expand entire thread 7th vlog is now on!!! maut 62868 352 Jun 17 2012, 7:04pm Jump to last post in thread (by QuackingTroll)

  Expand entire thread Balin and Dwalin Photo Riellawen 74860 350 Jul 18 2011, 5:09am Jump to last post in thread (by Mythopoeia)

  Expand entire thread HUGE Announcement from Peter Jackson's facebook page TITLE CHANGE AND DOS EE The Grey Pilgrim 23137 336 Apr 28, 6:16pm Jump to last post in thread (by Imladris18)

  Expand entire thread New Post by PJ on Facebook MTRougeau 136721 331 Aug 7 2011, 10:01pm Jump to last post in thread (by Niniel Valinor)

  Collapse From Variety: Unions to thesps:" Don't work on The Hobbit" macfalk 7817 329 Sep 25 2010, 7:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kangi Ska)
       Collapse My amatuer opinion is Tim 3324 1 Sep 25 2010, 8:34pm
           hear, hear bowencm 2057 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
       " "The Hobbit" producers have indicated they intend to make "imminent" offers to performers" Voronwë_the_Faithful 3170 0 Sep 25 2010, 8:40pm
       Collapse It's an attempt at a boycott of sorts Altaira 3037 1 Sep 25 2010, 9:17pm
           More info/links in here, too... Altaira 2969 0 Sep 25 2010, 9:27pm
       Collapse I've got the rest of this story Kristin Thompson 3163 6 Sep 25 2010, 9:46pm
           Collapse More hurdles ahead? Elven 2831 5 Sep 25 2010, 11:43pm
               Collapse Peter directing? Kristin Thompson 2880 4 Sep 26 2010, 12:29am
                   Well if New Zealand caves to unions Tim 2796 0 Sep 26 2010, 12:36am
                   Collapse Sorry Kristin ... Elven 2825 2 Sep 26 2010, 6:31am
                       Collapse Peter, Fran, and Philippa as union members Kristin Thompson 2151 1 Sep 26 2010, 7:15pm
                           Thanks Kristin Elven 1854 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:54pm
       Collapse Does anyone else just want to scream at this point? dormouse 2942 32 Sep 25 2010, 9:55pm
           Collapse Like crawling over broken glass Eruonen 2838 1 Sep 25 2010, 10:40pm
               Jeez duats 2760 0 Sep 25 2010, 11:23pm
           Collapse Is this some kind of a joke??? Pipe Dream 2862 29 Sep 26 2010, 1:06am
               Collapse Oh the humanity!!! Captain Salt 2724 28 Sep 26 2010, 2:38am
                   Collapse The whole point ... Hellmistress 2760 27 Sep 26 2010, 3:47am
                       Well said. / SirDennisC 2587 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:06am
                       Collapse Yes squire 2748 25 Sep 26 2010, 4:27am
                           Absolutely. N.E. Brigand 2705 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:33am
                           Also well said SirDennisC 2568 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:44am
                           Collapse thumbs up to this (and Hellmistress's) // Magpie 2689 1 Sep 26 2010, 4:47am
                               union merlwynd 2696 0 Sep 26 2010, 5:31am
                           well said merlwynd 2625 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:37am
                           The Collective is only as good as its jurisdiction Tim 2011 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:01pm
                           Collapse Thank you Squire Gildor 1876 10 Sep 26 2010, 11:09pm
                               Collapse Aw c'mon now Tim 1739 8 Sep 26 2010, 11:29pm
                                   Collapse I don't know him personally Gildor 1686 7 Sep 27 2010, 3:02pm
                                       Collapse Just to clarify ... Elven 1531 6 Sep 27 2010, 3:45pm
                                           Collapse Jumped Lark 1575 5 Sep 27 2010, 3:57pm
                                               Collapse As Im aware ... Elven 1525 3 Sep 27 2010, 4:27pm
                                                   Collapse Dunce hat Lark 1643 2 Sep 27 2010, 4:43pm
                                                       Collapse PJ claims he's paying fairly Tim 1611 1 Sep 27 2010, 4:49pm
                                                           I understand that Lark 1606 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:07pm
                                               Sorry, have I missed something... dormouse 1622 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:41pm
                               Annnnd PJ isn't even in control of the situation Tim 1804 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:36pm
                           Collapse As a Union Worker grammaboodawg 1741 7 Sep 27 2010, 2:17am
                               Collapse Heh heh like I said it's not simple Tim 1722 5 Sep 27 2010, 3:13am
                                   Nothing is perfect: Kangi Ska 1767 0 Sep 27 2010, 3:41am
                                   Collapse Aside: I've seen "Waiting for Superman" entmaiden 1511 3 Sep 27 2010, 10:09pm
                                       Collapse Thanks for your review entmaiden Tim 1570 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:28pm
                                           I saw it at a film festival in the US, but entmaiden 1630 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:32pm
                                       And aside on the aside: NBC News grammaboodawg 1517 0 Sep 28 2010, 12:25am
                               Labor pains?! Sunflower 1315 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:33am
       who do they mean by "producers" Glaurung63 2763 0 Sep 25 2010, 11:49pm
       the more I think about this... dormouse 2660 0 Sep 26 2010, 3:11pm
       Collapse Historically: Unions came into existence when Owners, Management & Government Kangi Ska 2067 14 Sep 26 2010, 3:58pm
           Collapse Power corrupts, even unions Voronwë_the_Faithful 2032 13 Sep 26 2010, 4:14pm
               Collapse The leaders ... Hellmistress 1976 9 Sep 26 2010, 5:06pm
                   Collapse Still. It's the worst possible timing. If the wages are bad, pick another job. The unions are putting one of the most anticipated movies on film history at stake. It should be an honor to work on The Hobbit. I'd do it for free, and gladly so. macfalk 2027 8 Sep 26 2010, 6:48pm
                       Collapse Sorry, but this is irrelevant ... Hellmistress 2035 6 Sep 26 2010, 9:20pm
                           Collapse But, if that were true Altaira 2013 4 Sep 26 2010, 10:36pm
                               Collapse Independent contractor ... Elven 1812 3 Sep 26 2010, 11:45pm
                                   Collapse You go! Altaira 1722 2 Sep 27 2010, 12:59am
                                       Hats off to you too... Elven 1652 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:50am
                                       I'm always grammaboodawg 1644 0 Sep 28 2010, 12:34am
                           sneaky suspicions ... Elven 1808 0 Sep 27 2010, 12:09am
                       So you say Gildor 1794 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:14pm
               Collapse Humans are fallible Kangi Ska 1948 2 Sep 26 2010, 5:57pm
                   Collapse So true, that's why even people who work for unions have unions. / SirDennisC 1971 1 Sep 26 2010, 9:54pm
                       Yes indeed ... Hellmistress 1948 0 Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
       Collapse Peter's response to the unions' demands Kristin Thompson 2116 19 Sep 26 2010, 6:41pm
           Collapse It seems this is the key paragraph: Ataahua 2083 1 Sep 26 2010, 6:55pm
               From a quick bit of Googling Ataahua 2023 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:42pm
           Yikes! Pipe Dream 1955 0 Sep 26 2010, 6:56pm
           Collapse PJ needed to step in and get out his side and he did - good job Tim 2020 11 Sep 26 2010, 7:27pm
               Collapse People who work for PJ are very loyal Kristin Thompson 2035 1 Sep 26 2010, 7:39pm
                   Good on PJ then Tim 1936 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:44pm
               Collapse I have to wonder Altaira 1925 3 Sep 26 2010, 8:21pm
                   Collapse Not quite. Ataahua 1913 1 Sep 26 2010, 8:52pm
                       Ah, thanks. Then it comes down to whether they are contractors or employees - and there is precedence Altaira 2227 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:08pm
                   As dormouse said above SirDennisC 1889 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:06pm
               Collapse It's a lonely battle you wage here Tim Kirly 2493 4 Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
                   Collapse Heh heh I don't feel lonely ;-) Tim 2011 1 Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
                       unions Kirly 1649 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:08am
                   Collapse I agree with Tim as well dormouse 1989 1 Sep 26 2010, 11:03pm
                       I agree with that. just the chosen target of the day. (nft) Kirly 1703 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:09am
           Oh boy. Ainu Laire 1762 0 Sep 27 2010, 12:57am
           RE: PJ's response Pete 1750 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:47am
           Collapse McKellen & co. support a boycott of the film? Silmaril 1946 1 Sep 27 2010, 9:11am
               I note the NZ contracts didn't stop them from working on LOTR. / Ataahua 1892 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:25pm
       Collapse If I were Peter, I would just throw my hands in the air and say... DarthNeeson 2032 29 Sep 26 2010, 10:12pm
           Collapse Some times it takes a lot of patience Kangi Ska 1792 28 Sep 27 2010, 12:38am
               Collapse Amarth faeg! :S Ruijor 1762 27 Sep 27 2010, 1:01am
                   Collapse A move would require another long delay Eruonen 1863 26 Sep 27 2010, 1:17am
                       Collapse Europe MouthofSauron 1698 25 Sep 27 2010, 6:20am
                           Collapse To Unionise or not to Unionise ... Hellmistress 1670 24 Sep 27 2010, 7:00am
                               MEAA was struck off the list of Registered Societies this month - it can't negotiate as a registered union.... Elven 1778 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:12am
                               Collapse Can this be... Sunflower 1235 22 Sep 29 2010, 8:26am
                                   Collapse I've been wondering that too.... dormouse 1396 21 Sep 29 2010, 8:42am
                                       Collapse PS.... dormouse 1316 19 Sep 29 2010, 10:11am
                                           Collapse Hobbiton flyover. Pioneer 1705 18 Sep 29 2010, 10:24am
                                               Oh that is awesome! Earl 1459 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:49am
                                               Fer sure Hobbitton is moving right along - let's hope they get to use it. // Tim 1380 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:03pm
                                               Collapse Thanks for posting Eruonen 1358 11 Sep 29 2010, 2:11pm
                                                   Collapse To heck with it I'm emailing SAG what have I got to lose? Tim 1363 10 Sep 29 2010, 2:32pm
                                                       Collapse I also sent an email... Eruonen 1351 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:17pm
                                                           Cool! Even NZ Actor's Equity isn't making the claim that The Hobbit is non-union. Tim 1433 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:25pm
                                                       Collapse I agree.... Gorgori 1643 7 Sep 29 2010, 3:24pm
                                                           Collapse A trust fund for the actors and crew - hmmm I like this idea - Voronwe where are you? Let's set this up. ;-) Tim 1424 3 Sep 29 2010, 3:37pm
                                                               Collapse I think it would be better if... Eruonen 1481 2 Sep 29 2010, 3:41pm
                                                                   Collapse That's a good idea too Tim 1338 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:47pm
                                                                       Oh, just send the money to me geordie 1403 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:15pm
                                                           Collapse Welcome to the Matrix...I mean the boards. It is good to hear from you. Kangi Ska 1586 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:53pm
                                                               Rather, "welcome to the Thunderdome, bleep" SirDennisC 1456 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:59pm
                                                           Welcome, Gorgori! Patty 1671 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:27pm
                                               Collapse Skips over all the political wrangling Garfeimao 1533 3 Sep 30 2010, 6:32am
                                                   Collapse I thought it looked behind schedule. Pipe Dream 1463 2 Sep 30 2010, 8:33am
                                                       I got the same feeling... Earl 1526 0 Sep 30 2010, 9:52am
                                                       Four months is a long time squire 1411 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:31pm
                                       I wonder if any of that footage will be in The Hobbit EE extras? SirDennisC 1347 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:22pm
       Unions are good, Galadriel's ring 1690 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:55am
       Collapse What makes me REALLY angry about this... Iolite 1825 8 Sep 27 2010, 9:04am
           Thanks for chiming in Iolite. Ataahua 1687 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:24pm
           Collapse Yes, an informative post though I find it odd SirDennisC 1636 6 Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
               Well said, Sir Dennis ... Hellmistress 1627 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
               Collapse We do have contracts and laws to enforce them... Iolite 1561 4 Sep 27 2010, 9:21pm
                   Nicely articulated, Iolite Altaira 1480 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:00pm
                   Collapse Implying/Non-binding SirDennisC 1586 2 Sep 27 2010, 10:41pm
                       Collapse Recommended guidelines only... Iolite 1583 1 Sep 28 2010, 12:13am
                           Fascinating SirDennisC 1615 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:04am
       Collapse Europe? Whoo-hoo! geordie 1771 1 Sep 27 2010, 9:12am
           unions merlwynd 1732 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:22am
       Where's BoB? He hasn't chimed in on this yet...!? sphdle1 1688 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:43am
       Collapse Here is Jackson's reponse on Variety sphdle1 1763 4 Sep 27 2010, 11:57am
           Collapse All is resumed to this... Dreamaster 1720 3 Sep 27 2010, 1:19pm
               Collapse Eastern Europe? macfalk 1708 1 Sep 27 2010, 1:32pm
                   Welcome to Latvia Bilbo Baggins ... ;-) // Elven 1556 0 Sep 27 2010, 2:50pm
               Amen. Sunflower 1419 0 Sep 29 2010, 9:20am
       Collapse Update: MEAA Meeting planned in Auckland tomorrow ... Elven 1652 2 Sep 27 2010, 3:13pm
           Collapse What do you think - do I understand this right? Tim 1548 1 Sep 27 2010, 5:01pm
               Yes Lark 1578 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:12pm
       Collapse I'm glad performers are being protected. Lark 1628 1 Sep 27 2010, 3:40pm
           Well the majority of New Zealanders (actors) are not union Tim 1634 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:44pm
       Collapse What we hear is that it's illegal in New Zealand FangornFriend 1680 26 Sep 27 2010, 5:29pm
           Collapse Can't happen? Lark 1646 22 Sep 27 2010, 5:40pm
               Collapse This doesn't seem about wages Tim 1768 14 Sep 27 2010, 5:57pm
                   Collapse I did Lark 1602 13 Sep 27 2010, 7:01pm
                       Peter Jackson did not say "he can't do what they ask (pay fairly)" Kangi Ska 1665 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:16pm
                       Sorry, Lark dormouse 1705 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:18pm
                       Collapse Others have accurately pointed out you mis-represent what PJ says in his statement but I'll add my two cents as well Tim 1647 10 Sep 27 2010, 7:55pm
                           Collapse ugh Lark 1558 5 Sep 27 2010, 8:06pm
                               Saying he can't negotiate with the unions Tim 1612 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:16pm
                               Thank-you Altaira 1662 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
                               Collapse I do believe you hav misunderstood parts of Peter's starement. Kangi Ska 1540 2 Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
                                   Collapse Yes Lark 1578 1 Sep 27 2010, 8:53pm
                                       Well thanks for being honest about your perspective :-) Tim 1559 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:24pm
                           Collapse My guess is that this will be a flash in the pan Eruonen 1726 3 Sep 27 2010, 8:07pm
                               Collapse I hope you're right and that this is "much ado about nothing". Tim 1525 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:29pm
                                   Sadly, I'm not convinced that it is Voronwë_the_Faithful 1642 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:42pm
                               A team of international labor lawyers will straighten this out. Kangi Ska 1536 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:43pm
               Collapse Sounds reasonable to me Gildor 1528 6 Sep 28 2010, 4:05pm
                   Collapse Nothing is reasonable or unreasonable yet Tim 1518 5 Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                       Collapse Sounds reasonable to me... Gildor 1455 4 Sep 28 2010, 5:02pm
                           Collapse Two to tango normally but in my mind this isn't totally normal Tim 1421 3 Sep 28 2010, 5:15pm
                               Collapse You keep rehashing stuff Gildor 1344 2 Sep 29 2010, 12:33am
                                   Collapse Then I guess I need to repeat Tim 1337 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:35am
                                       You have and are understood! Gildor 1361 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:37am
           Yes Tim 1864 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:49pm
           Collapse Given that any employment law change Ataahua 1649 1 Sep 27 2010, 6:36pm
               I totally agree. Lark 1545 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:19pm
       Collapse There are three video's about this subject at TV New Zealand, Theodred 1648 8 Sep 27 2010, 5:37pm
           Collapse The reel world squire 1660 7 Sep 27 2010, 7:04pm
               Collapse True independent contractors can take on more than one job at a time, and work their own hours and provide their own equipment. Tim 1684 6 Sep 27 2010, 7:39pm
                   Collapse Everybody's mileage may differ squire 1662 5 Sep 27 2010, 8:37pm
                       Collapse It came across as maybe you implying - but that's why I asked because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt Tim 1559 3 Sep 27 2010, 10:16pm
                           Read Ataahua's posts Altaira 1527 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
                           Collapse In the US, it's a facts and circumstances test entmaiden 1592 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:31pm
                               Oh I don't doubt squire's right Tim 1582 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:36pm
                       NZ vs US Law entmaiden 1528 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
       Collapse Karl Urban backs the union's stance Ataahua 1606 13 Sep 27 2010, 10:50pm
           Collapse Any particulars on this? Tim 1591 12 Sep 27 2010, 10:59pm
               Collapse See inside Altaira 1523 5 Sep 27 2010, 11:13pm
                   Thank you thank you Altaira Tim 1513 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:20pm
                   Collapse One might also need to consider the jurisdiction of the court that decided the case. entmaiden 1541 1 Sep 27 2010, 11:22pm
                       Indeed our land is a Lawyer's Paradise. Tim 1471 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:29pm
                   Collapse A model maker is not an actor squire 1600 1 Sep 27 2010, 11:43pm
                       I require an expert NZ lawyer panel post haste! Tim 1471 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:49pm
               Collapse Totally different Elladan 1516 5 Sep 27 2010, 11:17pm
                   Collapse That's cool Tim 1535 4 Sep 27 2010, 11:27pm
                       Collapse Hmm computer error I guess Elladan 1423 3 Sep 28 2010, 3:32pm
                           Collapse With so few big films in NZ, there is a lot of project-specific employment even in scenic shops squire 1542 2 Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                               Good points squire Tim 1470 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:21pm
                               True. Elladan 1456 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:49pm
       Collapse ** Update from the Home Page: Cate Blanchett and Sir Ian McKellen may decline Hobbit roles in pay row Altaira 1632 14 Sep 28 2010, 1:13am
           Collapse I agree this is just what we've already read it's a re-hash. // Tim 1705 1 Sep 28 2010, 1:19am
               Cool with me. Pioneer 1713 0 Sep 28 2010, 1:58am
           Big scary stuff to panic the herd.// Kangi Ska 1662 0 Sep 28 2010, 2:51am
           Collapse Yahoo news has put it on their homepage... weaver 1642 7 Sep 28 2010, 2:53am
               Collapse Who wrote this fo Yahoo Movies? Kangi Ska 1689 5 Sep 28 2010, 3:06am
                   "two whole movies based in just the hobbit-land"? squire 1659 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:18am
                   I dearly wish I could comment on the article Tim 1576 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:27am
                   Collapse My jaw is stuck open--somebody help!! Ethel Duath 1633 1 Sep 28 2010, 3:39am
                       Nah... Eowyn of Penns Woods 1518 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:12am
                   Will Leitch: Author of the Bunk Kangi Ska 1481 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:07pm
               And there's our first neeker-breeker article for The Hobbit. / Ataahua 1362 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:57pm
           All this aside, that is one gorgeous shot of Cate Blanchett attached to the article. / SirDennisC 1572 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:14am
           Collapse I think they both know grammaboodawg 1505 1 Sep 28 2010, 9:14am
               wow!!! merlwynd 1497 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:40am
       Collapse Let me duck out by saying... Lark 1639 2 Sep 28 2010, 2:57am
           Not at all SirDennisC 1587 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:22am
           Sorted out? Sorted out? macfalk 1521 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:06pm
       Collapse Offical response from the Studio Bound 1945 39 Sep 28 2010, 9:03am
           Collapse puhhh... this is a serious conflict!! Silmaril 1553 9 Sep 28 2010, 9:46am
               Collapse SAG's Global Rule One Pipe Dream 1619 8 Sep 28 2010, 10:02am
                   I don't see them expelling Tim 1548 0 Sep 28 2010, 1:04pm
                   Collapse That's irrelevant in this case Altaira 1503 6 Sep 28 2010, 3:30pm
                       Collapse It seems ironic, really.... dormouse 1527 5 Sep 28 2010, 4:01pm
                           Collapse Indeed Tim 1503 4 Sep 28 2010, 4:03pm
                               Collapse Right, the union sees this as its biggest and best chance Eruonen 1446 3 Sep 28 2010, 4:10pm
                                   Collapse I agree ... Let's hope sphdle1 1439 2 Sep 28 2010, 4:45pm
                                       Collapse Any news of a New Zealand Government response? Tim 1425 1 Sep 28 2010, 4:59pm
                                           especially since sphdle1 1396 0 Sep 28 2010, 5:14pm
           Not looking good ... Jackson can't be happy right now... sphdle1 1510 0 Sep 28 2010, 11:39am
           Studios answer ti big scary stuff. Kangi Ska 1454 0 Sep 28 2010, 2:33pm
           Collapse Yup. The Studios and PJ are sympatico Tim 1428 17 Sep 28 2010, 3:25pm
               Collapse There's a time and a place sphdle1 1475 16 Sep 28 2010, 4:40pm
                   Collapse And yet SirDennisC 1426 15 Sep 28 2010, 8:55pm
                       Collapse A business seeks to maximize profit - the prime mandate for its existence Eruonen 1479 9 Sep 28 2010, 9:12pm
                           Collapse That doesn't make it right SirDennisC 1451 8 Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
                               Collapse Indeed. Eruonen 1418 7 Sep 28 2010, 9:44pm
                                   Collapse An army must move from water to water SirDennisC 1434 5 Sep 28 2010, 10:43pm
                                       Collapse Everything you say makes sense sphdle1 1349 4 Sep 29 2010, 11:35am
                                           Collapse We should remember squire 1382 3 Sep 29 2010, 1:28pm
                                               Well said Tim 1348 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:28pm
                                               I think you misunderstood sphdle1 1473 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:19pm
                                               Remember... Sunflower 1344 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:52pm
                                   I live in Canada sphdle1 1409 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:42am
                       Collapse Whether it sits right or not facts are facts Tim 1482 2 Sep 28 2010, 9:33pm
                           Collapse A Transylvanian Hobbit might be very interesting...HaHaHaHaHaHa! Kangi Ska 1432 1 Sep 28 2010, 9:55pm
                               Just a thought... cameragod 1323 0 Sep 28 2010, 10:20pm
                       Yes I agree Tim 1342 0 Sep 28 2010, 10:57pm
                       I'm not talking about the little guy sphdle1 1353 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:18am
           Collapse The horror! Will this ever come to a good end? // Compa_Mighty 1281 8 Sep 29 2010, 12:47am
               Collapse One word... Kangi Ska 1353 7 Sep 29 2010, 12:49am
                   Collapse *writes.. Tim 1345 5 Sep 29 2010, 12:52am
                       Collapse Tolkien cioned the word Kangi Ska 1453 2 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                           Collapse Sorry I knew that - was a lame "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" joke. ;-) // Tim 1327 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:58am
                               OK...my mind was not moving in that direction Kangi Ska 1396 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:02am
                       Collapse eucatastrophe Mooseboy018 1386 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                           The ride has made me a bit queezy Kangi Ska 1362 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:59am
                   (EU) catastrophe indeed. macfalk 1194 0 Sep 29 2010, 7:43am
       Collapse *Update* ''Talk to us, Kiwi actors tell Hobbit film's producers'' Rogash 1561 13 Sep 28 2010, 5:49pm
           Collapse It means we're right back where we started from Altaira 1423 2 Sep 28 2010, 5:53pm
               NZ Actor's equity's response to PJ statement Tim 1430 0 Sep 28 2010, 6:45pm
               And PJ's claims that they aren't even a Union is presented with a genuine non-answer Tim 1409 0 Sep 28 2010, 6:50pm
           Collapse To make matters more interesting Tim 1449 6 Sep 28 2010, 6:18pm
               Collapse That must be why Altaira 1415 5 Sep 28 2010, 6:48pm
                   Collapse Interesting I wonder if that helps their union status Tim 1416 1 Sep 28 2010, 6:54pm
                       I believe... Ruijor 1348 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:45pm
                   They also can't seem to agree how to classify The Hobbit (union or non-union) Tim 1394 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:55pm
                   Collapse MEAA "has no legal status" in New Zealand Eruonen 1515 1 Sep 28 2010, 8:18pm
                       Killing the Golden Goose Eruonen 1518 0 Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
           Collapse Technically, there are no producers. entmaiden 1376 2 Sep 29 2010, 4:18am
               Collapse I agree this is an extremely weird situation Tim 1289 1 Sep 29 2010, 4:34am
                   meeting or not? Silmaril 1247 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:49am
       Collapse A strong suggestion: Kangi Ska 1560 2 Sep 28 2010, 8:15pm
           *Relaxes* Tenses up* *Relaxes* Tim 1394 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
           Yeah, sure... Sunflower 1429 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:46am
       Collapse Links to two strong articles from NZ Stuff Kangi Ska 1467 1 Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
           A third article from NZ Stuff: Karl Urban backs union Kangi Ska 1409 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:49pm
       Collapse Excellent article on Scoop.co.nz about this whole debacle... Cad Monkey 1398 21 Sep 28 2010, 11:28pm
           The clearest information I have seen.// Kangi Ska 1306 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:06am
           Collapse Highly informative and very reasonable. Ataahua 1354 14 Sep 29 2010, 12:09am
               Collapse What I found curious Tim 1381 13 Sep 29 2010, 12:32am
                   One of the two is wrong Kangi Ska 1347 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:46am
                   Collapse Your second quote is correct Voronwë_the_Faithful 1408 10 Sep 29 2010, 2:04am
                       Collapse Good find. And it does bring the Scoop article into question. Kangi Ska 1400 1 Sep 29 2010, 2:11am
                           I think it may also be the fastest moving thread I have seen Voronwë_the_Faithful 1315 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:21am
                       Collapse Admittedly I haven't weighed through the entire thing Tim 1313 7 Sep 29 2010, 2:30am
                           I would trust Voronwë the Faithful's reading Kangi Ska 1302 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:11am
                           Collapse I'm no lawyer but Envinyatar 1312 5 Sep 29 2010, 3:16am
                               OK I surrender!// Kangi Ska 1273 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:20am
                               You are correct; my apologies Voronwë_the_Faithful 1306 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:30am
                               Yes, you're right. Kimi 1242 0 Sep 29 2010, 5:27am
                               Collapse This vindicates the Scoop article that I swooned over(I guess) Kangi Ska 1384 1 Sep 29 2010, 2:20pm
                                   Yes Voronwë_the_Faithful 1554 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:34pm
                   Both are true - no, really :-) Kimi 1318 0 Sep 29 2010, 5:18am
           Great find Eruonen 1387 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:23am
           Good Scoop CINE 1414 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:27am
           If tax incentives are the carrot SirDennisC 1237 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:35am
           Collapse The writer seems to suggest sphdle1 1309 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:11pm
               I may have mistook Campbell's meaning - SirDennisC 1374 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:02pm
       Dead end durfalas 1278 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:16am
       Collapse My ultimate frustration with this duats 1387 9 Sep 29 2010, 7:35pm
           Collapse Also duats 1273 5 Sep 29 2010, 7:52pm
               Collapse I would assume NZ has free speech Eruonen 1219 3 Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
                   I don't think NZ is as free in speech as the U.S. Eruonen 1194 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:37pm
                   Collapse Possibly. Ataahua 1215 1 Sep 29 2010, 8:46pm
                       Let us hope this evil genie does not surface! Eruonen 1191 0 Sep 29 2010, 9:01pm
               Perhaps, but Silverlode 1259 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
           Agree with many of your points SirDennisC 1289 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:22pm
           Collapse Not completely out of production's hands Gildor 1435 1 Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
               Actually that process has already started Tim 1511 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:47am
       Collapse Now Kiwi politicians are getting involved... Cad Monkey 1288 22 Sep 29 2010, 9:23pm
           Collapse And the New Zealand government dormouse 1229 21 Sep 29 2010, 9:50pm
               Collapse Since NZ politician know what is at stake... Eruonen 1138 20 Sep 29 2010, 10:21pm
                   Let us hope... Kangi Ska 1177 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:28pm
                   Collapse I predict you're right Tim 1206 18 Sep 29 2010, 10:29pm
                       Collapse Not all politicians... dormouse 1137 17 Sep 29 2010, 10:45pm
                           Collapse Ah yes....goodwill Eruonen 1167 15 Sep 29 2010, 11:01pm
                               Collapse Not to be too cruel squire 1298 14 Sep 30 2010, 12:27am
                                   Collapse I hoot twice for Weta: a truly global film asset.// Kangi Ska 1084 1 Sep 30 2010, 12:37am
                                       Hoot hoot! // Tim 1572 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:58am
                                   Collapse Ideological maybe - power most certainly oh "squire the cruel" ;-) Tim 1248 9 Sep 30 2010, 12:40am
                                       Collapse Drat those SirDennisC 1371 8 Sep 30 2010, 12:53am
                                           Collapse Don't fall over dead from shock Tim 1508 7 Sep 30 2010, 12:56am
                                               Collapse I have problems with really big unions Kangi Ska 1302 6 Sep 30 2010, 1:18am
                                                   Collapse Good and evil? squire 1233 5 Sep 30 2010, 2:13am
                                                       Good and evil are real as is New Zealand Kangi Ska 1249 0 Sep 30 2010, 2:21am
                                                       Collapse To paraphrase Aragorn Voronwë_the_Faithful 1631 3 Sep 30 2010, 3:23am
                                                           Collapse Right, thank you for that squire 1380 2 Sep 30 2010, 3:51am
                                                               The good dogs taste better. (its a dog eat dog world) Kangi Ska 1516 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:57am
                                                               I knew you were going to ask that :-) Voronwë_the_Faithful 1559 0 Sep 30 2010, 4:16am
                                   When the dog finishes eating the dog Kangi Ska 1210 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
                                   Absolutely, that is my point Eruonen 1345 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:01am
                           Hmmm this article sheds a tad more light thanks dormouse Tim 1255 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:04pm
       Collapse Here is the relevant NZ law.... Iolite 1246 2 Sep 30 2010, 1:41am
           Thanks Iolite! Tim 1265 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:46am
           This must really throw SirDennisC 1329 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:57am
       Welcome to Azerbajdzjan, Bilbo Baggins. macfalk 1453 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:09pm
       My guess Zizix 1462 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:31pm
     Collapse Alright you thread-hijackers ;-) Tim 1434 5 Sep 30 2010, 2:54pm
           Collapse SAG will lay back until the smoke clears. Kangi Ska 1406 4 Sep 30 2010, 3:08pm
               Collapse Correction: SPADA not SNAGA Kangi Ska 1358 2 Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm
                   Collapse Ha ha I thought you were making fun of SPADA Tim 1378 1 Sep 30 2010, 3:21pm
                       It was Freudian slip. Kangi Ska 2673 0 Sep 30 2010, 5:23pm
               MEAA Pipe Dream 1354 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm
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