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  Expand entire thread A summary of 'The Hobbit' casting discussion so far MrCere 2015540 382 Oct 20 2010, 2:24am Jump to last post in thread (by Calafalas)

  Expand entire thread Elijah Wood will be in 'The Hobbit' News from Bree 4770578 378 Jan 14 2011, 1:06am Jump to last post in thread (by meltsar)

  Expand entire thread 3 Hobbit Films Confirmed Lily Brambleburr 121854 377 Aug 15 2012, 10:08am Jump to last post in thread (by Zubeneschamali)

  Expand entire thread The SLIGHTLY Extended Edition tripecac 35566 370 Aug 10 2013, 2:36am Jump to last post in thread (by tripecac)

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  Expand entire thread Hobbit Stays in New Zealand!!! RobNZ 189616 363 Oct 28 2010, 1:34pm Jump to last post in thread (by ShyElf)

  Expand entire thread Entertainment Weekly: "The Scroll" shows 10 hobbit scenes, dwarves, trolls, wargs, Beorn in bear form and more! Carne 442537 354 Jul 14 2012, 9:07am Jump to last post in thread (by redgiraffe)

  Expand entire thread 7th vlog is now on!!! maut 64209 352 Jun 17 2012, 7:04pm Jump to last post in thread (by QuackingTroll)

  Expand entire thread Balin and Dwalin Photo Riellawen 75827 350 Jul 18 2011, 5:09am Jump to last post in thread (by Mythopoeia)

  Expand entire thread HUGE Announcement from Peter Jackson's facebook page TITLE CHANGE AND DOS EE The Grey Pilgrim 23601 336 Apr 28, 6:16pm Jump to last post in thread (by Imladris18)

  Expand entire thread New Post by PJ on Facebook MTRougeau 137623 331 Aug 7 2011, 10:01pm Jump to last post in thread (by Niniel Valinor)

  Collapse From Variety: Unions to thesps:" Don't work on The Hobbit" macfalk 7867 329 Sep 25 2010, 7:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kangi Ska)
       Collapse My amatuer opinion is Tim 3338 1 Sep 25 2010, 8:34pm
           hear, hear bowencm 2075 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
       " "The Hobbit" producers have indicated they intend to make "imminent" offers to performers" Voronwë_the_Faithful 3186 0 Sep 25 2010, 8:40pm
       Collapse It's an attempt at a boycott of sorts Altaira 3052 1 Sep 25 2010, 9:17pm
           More info/links in here, too... Altaira 2986 0 Sep 25 2010, 9:27pm
       Collapse I've got the rest of this story Kristin Thompson 3176 6 Sep 25 2010, 9:46pm
           Collapse More hurdles ahead? Elven 2845 5 Sep 25 2010, 11:43pm
               Collapse Peter directing? Kristin Thompson 2890 4 Sep 26 2010, 12:29am
                   Well if New Zealand caves to unions Tim 2813 0 Sep 26 2010, 12:36am
                   Collapse Sorry Kristin ... Elven 2844 2 Sep 26 2010, 6:31am
                       Collapse Peter, Fran, and Philippa as union members Kristin Thompson 2169 1 Sep 26 2010, 7:15pm
                           Thanks Kristin Elven 1866 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:54pm
       Collapse Does anyone else just want to scream at this point? dormouse 2955 32 Sep 25 2010, 9:55pm
           Collapse Like crawling over broken glass Eruonen 2850 1 Sep 25 2010, 10:40pm
               Jeez duats 2771 0 Sep 25 2010, 11:23pm
           Collapse Is this some kind of a joke??? Pipe Dream 2874 29 Sep 26 2010, 1:06am
               Collapse Oh the humanity!!! Captain Salt 2740 28 Sep 26 2010, 2:38am
                   Collapse The whole point ... Hellmistress 2774 27 Sep 26 2010, 3:47am
                       Well said. / SirDennisC 2599 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:06am
                       Collapse Yes squire 2765 25 Sep 26 2010, 4:27am
                           Absolutely. N.E. Brigand 2717 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:33am
                           Also well said SirDennisC 2584 0 Sep 26 2010, 4:44am
                           Collapse thumbs up to this (and Hellmistress's) // Magpie 2707 1 Sep 26 2010, 4:47am
                               union merlwynd 2709 0 Sep 26 2010, 5:31am
                           well said merlwynd 2640 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:37am
                           The Collective is only as good as its jurisdiction Tim 2027 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:01pm
                           Collapse Thank you Squire Gildor 1889 10 Sep 26 2010, 11:09pm
                               Collapse Aw c'mon now Tim 1751 8 Sep 26 2010, 11:29pm
                                   Collapse I don't know him personally Gildor 1699 7 Sep 27 2010, 3:02pm
                                       Collapse Just to clarify ... Elven 1546 6 Sep 27 2010, 3:45pm
                                           Collapse Jumped Lark 1586 5 Sep 27 2010, 3:57pm
                                               Collapse As Im aware ... Elven 1542 3 Sep 27 2010, 4:27pm
                                                   Collapse Dunce hat Lark 1657 2 Sep 27 2010, 4:43pm
                                                       Collapse PJ claims he's paying fairly Tim 1624 1 Sep 27 2010, 4:49pm
                                                           I understand that Lark 1623 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:07pm
                                               Sorry, have I missed something... dormouse 1636 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:41pm
                               Annnnd PJ isn't even in control of the situation Tim 1816 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:36pm
                           Collapse As a Union Worker grammaboodawg 1757 7 Sep 27 2010, 2:17am
                               Collapse Heh heh like I said it's not simple Tim 1742 5 Sep 27 2010, 3:13am
                                   Nothing is perfect: Kangi Ska 1780 0 Sep 27 2010, 3:41am
                                   Collapse Aside: I've seen "Waiting for Superman" entmaiden 1523 3 Sep 27 2010, 10:09pm
                                       Collapse Thanks for your review entmaiden Tim 1587 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:28pm
                                           I saw it at a film festival in the US, but entmaiden 1644 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:32pm
                                       And aside on the aside: NBC News grammaboodawg 1530 0 Sep 28 2010, 12:25am
                               Labor pains?! Sunflower 1332 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:33am
       who do they mean by "producers" Glaurung63 2782 0 Sep 25 2010, 11:49pm
       the more I think about this... dormouse 2675 0 Sep 26 2010, 3:11pm
       Collapse Historically: Unions came into existence when Owners, Management & Government Kangi Ska 2079 14 Sep 26 2010, 3:58pm
           Collapse Power corrupts, even unions Voronwë_the_Faithful 2044 13 Sep 26 2010, 4:14pm
               Collapse The leaders ... Hellmistress 1987 9 Sep 26 2010, 5:06pm
                   Collapse Still. It's the worst possible timing. If the wages are bad, pick another job. The unions are putting one of the most anticipated movies on film history at stake. It should be an honor to work on The Hobbit. I'd do it for free, and gladly so. macfalk 2045 8 Sep 26 2010, 6:48pm
                       Collapse Sorry, but this is irrelevant ... Hellmistress 2052 6 Sep 26 2010, 9:20pm
                           Collapse But, if that were true Altaira 2033 4 Sep 26 2010, 10:36pm
                               Collapse Independent contractor ... Elven 1826 3 Sep 26 2010, 11:45pm
                                   Collapse You go! Altaira 1734 2 Sep 27 2010, 12:59am
                                       Hats off to you too... Elven 1668 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:50am
                                       I'm always grammaboodawg 1657 0 Sep 28 2010, 12:34am
                           sneaky suspicions ... Elven 1832 0 Sep 27 2010, 12:09am
                       So you say Gildor 1812 0 Sep 26 2010, 11:14pm
               Collapse Humans are fallible Kangi Ska 1965 2 Sep 26 2010, 5:57pm
                   Collapse So true, that's why even people who work for unions have unions. / SirDennisC 1984 1 Sep 26 2010, 9:54pm
                       Yes indeed ... Hellmistress 1964 0 Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
       Collapse Peter's response to the unions' demands Kristin Thompson 2128 19 Sep 26 2010, 6:41pm
           Collapse It seems this is the key paragraph: Ataahua 2099 1 Sep 26 2010, 6:55pm
               From a quick bit of Googling Ataahua 2035 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:42pm
           Yikes! Pipe Dream 1968 0 Sep 26 2010, 6:56pm
           Collapse PJ needed to step in and get out his side and he did - good job Tim 2033 11 Sep 26 2010, 7:27pm
               Collapse People who work for PJ are very loyal Kristin Thompson 2050 1 Sep 26 2010, 7:39pm
                   Good on PJ then Tim 1949 0 Sep 26 2010, 7:44pm
               Collapse I have to wonder Altaira 1946 3 Sep 26 2010, 8:21pm
                   Collapse Not quite. Ataahua 1928 1 Sep 26 2010, 8:52pm
                       Ah, thanks. Then it comes down to whether they are contractors or employees - and there is precedence Altaira 2248 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:08pm
                   As dormouse said above SirDennisC 1900 0 Sep 26 2010, 9:06pm
               Collapse It's a lonely battle you wage here Tim Kirly 2539 4 Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
                   Collapse Heh heh I don't feel lonely ;-) Tim 2027 1 Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
                       unions Kirly 1665 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:08am
                   Collapse I agree with Tim as well dormouse 2009 1 Sep 26 2010, 11:03pm
                       I agree with that. just the chosen target of the day. (nft) Kirly 1715 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:09am
           Oh boy. Ainu Laire 1776 0 Sep 27 2010, 12:57am
           RE: PJ's response Pete 1763 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:47am
           Collapse McKellen & co. support a boycott of the film? Silmaril 1959 1 Sep 27 2010, 9:11am
               I note the NZ contracts didn't stop them from working on LOTR. / Ataahua 1912 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:25pm
       Collapse If I were Peter, I would just throw my hands in the air and say... DarthNeeson 2050 29 Sep 26 2010, 10:12pm
           Collapse Some times it takes a lot of patience Kangi Ska 1809 28 Sep 27 2010, 12:38am
               Collapse Amarth faeg! :S Ruijor 1772 27 Sep 27 2010, 1:01am
                   Collapse A move would require another long delay Eruonen 1886 26 Sep 27 2010, 1:17am
                       Collapse Europe MouthofSauron 1711 25 Sep 27 2010, 6:20am
                           Collapse To Unionise or not to Unionise ... Hellmistress 1682 24 Sep 27 2010, 7:00am
                               MEAA was struck off the list of Registered Societies this month - it can't negotiate as a registered union.... Elven 1796 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:12am
                               Collapse Can this be... Sunflower 1247 22 Sep 29 2010, 8:26am
                                   Collapse I've been wondering that too.... dormouse 1415 21 Sep 29 2010, 8:42am
                                       Collapse PS.... dormouse 1331 19 Sep 29 2010, 10:11am
                                           Collapse Hobbiton flyover. Pioneer 1726 18 Sep 29 2010, 10:24am
                                               Oh that is awesome! Earl 1473 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:49am
                                               Fer sure Hobbitton is moving right along - let's hope they get to use it. // Tim 1393 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:03pm
                                               Collapse Thanks for posting Eruonen 1372 11 Sep 29 2010, 2:11pm
                                                   Collapse To heck with it I'm emailing SAG what have I got to lose? Tim 1375 10 Sep 29 2010, 2:32pm
                                                       Collapse I also sent an email... Eruonen 1366 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:17pm
                                                           Cool! Even NZ Actor's Equity isn't making the claim that The Hobbit is non-union. Tim 1451 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:25pm
                                                       Collapse I agree.... Gorgori 1664 7 Sep 29 2010, 3:24pm
                                                           Collapse A trust fund for the actors and crew - hmmm I like this idea - Voronwe where are you? Let's set this up. ;-) Tim 1444 3 Sep 29 2010, 3:37pm
                                                               Collapse I think it would be better if... Eruonen 1496 2 Sep 29 2010, 3:41pm
                                                                   Collapse That's a good idea too Tim 1353 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:47pm
                                                                       Oh, just send the money to me geordie 1423 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:15pm
                                                           Collapse Welcome to the Matrix...I mean the boards. It is good to hear from you. Kangi Ska 1615 1 Sep 29 2010, 3:53pm
                                                               Rather, "welcome to the Thunderdome, bleep" SirDennisC 1473 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:59pm
                                                           Welcome, Gorgori! Patty 1704 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:27pm
                                               Collapse Skips over all the political wrangling Garfeimao 1594 3 Sep 30 2010, 6:32am
                                                   Collapse I thought it looked behind schedule. Pipe Dream 1536 2 Sep 30 2010, 8:33am
                                                       I got the same feeling... Earl 1609 0 Sep 30 2010, 9:52am
                                                       Four months is a long time squire 1447 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:31pm
                                       I wonder if any of that footage will be in The Hobbit EE extras? SirDennisC 1358 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:22pm
       Unions are good, Galadriel's ring 1703 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:55am
       Collapse What makes me REALLY angry about this... Iolite 1841 8 Sep 27 2010, 9:04am
           Thanks for chiming in Iolite. Ataahua 1702 0 Sep 27 2010, 6:24pm
           Collapse Yes, an informative post though I find it odd SirDennisC 1653 6 Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
               Well said, Sir Dennis ... Hellmistress 1646 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
               Collapse We do have contracts and laws to enforce them... Iolite 1579 4 Sep 27 2010, 9:21pm
                   Nicely articulated, Iolite Altaira 1498 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:00pm
                   Collapse Implying/Non-binding SirDennisC 1598 2 Sep 27 2010, 10:41pm
                       Collapse Recommended guidelines only... Iolite 1598 1 Sep 28 2010, 12:13am
                           Fascinating SirDennisC 1629 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:04am
       Collapse Europe? Whoo-hoo! geordie 1784 1 Sep 27 2010, 9:12am
           unions merlwynd 1748 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:22am
       Where's BoB? He hasn't chimed in on this yet...!? sphdle1 1706 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:43am
       Collapse Here is Jackson's reponse on Variety sphdle1 1775 4 Sep 27 2010, 11:57am
           Collapse All is resumed to this... Dreamaster 1734 3 Sep 27 2010, 1:19pm
               Collapse Eastern Europe? macfalk 1721 1 Sep 27 2010, 1:32pm
                   Welcome to Latvia Bilbo Baggins ... ;-) // Elven 1571 0 Sep 27 2010, 2:50pm
               Amen. Sunflower 1430 0 Sep 29 2010, 9:20am
       Collapse Update: MEAA Meeting planned in Auckland tomorrow ... Elven 1671 2 Sep 27 2010, 3:13pm
           Collapse What do you think - do I understand this right? Tim 1560 1 Sep 27 2010, 5:01pm
               Yes Lark 1590 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:12pm
       Collapse I'm glad performers are being protected. Lark 1641 1 Sep 27 2010, 3:40pm
           Well the majority of New Zealanders (actors) are not union Tim 1645 0 Sep 27 2010, 4:44pm
       Collapse What we hear is that it's illegal in New Zealand FangornFriend 1695 26 Sep 27 2010, 5:29pm
           Collapse Can't happen? Lark 1659 22 Sep 27 2010, 5:40pm
               Collapse This doesn't seem about wages Tim 1788 14 Sep 27 2010, 5:57pm
                   Collapse I did Lark 1617 13 Sep 27 2010, 7:01pm
                       Peter Jackson did not say "he can't do what they ask (pay fairly)" Kangi Ska 1676 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:16pm
                       Sorry, Lark dormouse 1722 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:18pm
                       Collapse Others have accurately pointed out you mis-represent what PJ says in his statement but I'll add my two cents as well Tim 1665 10 Sep 27 2010, 7:55pm
                           Collapse ugh Lark 1571 5 Sep 27 2010, 8:06pm
                               Saying he can't negotiate with the unions Tim 1622 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:16pm
                               Thank-you Altaira 1680 0 Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
                               Collapse I do believe you hav misunderstood parts of Peter's starement. Kangi Ska 1555 2 Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
                                   Collapse Yes Lark 1592 1 Sep 27 2010, 8:53pm
                                       Well thanks for being honest about your perspective :-) Tim 1571 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:24pm
                           Collapse My guess is that this will be a flash in the pan Eruonen 1747 3 Sep 27 2010, 8:07pm
                               Collapse I hope you're right and that this is "much ado about nothing". Tim 1541 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:29pm
                                   Sadly, I'm not convinced that it is Voronwë_the_Faithful 1657 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:42pm
                               A team of international labor lawyers will straighten this out. Kangi Ska 1549 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:43pm
               Collapse Sounds reasonable to me Gildor 1547 6 Sep 28 2010, 4:05pm
                   Collapse Nothing is reasonable or unreasonable yet Tim 1536 5 Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                       Collapse Sounds reasonable to me... Gildor 1465 4 Sep 28 2010, 5:02pm
                           Collapse Two to tango normally but in my mind this isn't totally normal Tim 1434 3 Sep 28 2010, 5:15pm
                               Collapse You keep rehashing stuff Gildor 1357 2 Sep 29 2010, 12:33am
                                   Collapse Then I guess I need to repeat Tim 1351 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:35am
                                       You have and are understood! Gildor 1376 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:37am
           Yes Tim 1891 0 Sep 27 2010, 5:49pm
           Collapse Given that any employment law change Ataahua 1669 1 Sep 27 2010, 6:36pm
               I totally agree. Lark 1560 0 Sep 27 2010, 7:19pm
       Collapse There are three video's about this subject at TV New Zealand, Theodred 1666 8 Sep 27 2010, 5:37pm
           Collapse The reel world squire 1672 7 Sep 27 2010, 7:04pm
               Collapse True independent contractors can take on more than one job at a time, and work their own hours and provide their own equipment. Tim 1697 6 Sep 27 2010, 7:39pm
                   Collapse Everybody's mileage may differ squire 1673 5 Sep 27 2010, 8:37pm
                       Collapse It came across as maybe you implying - but that's why I asked because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt Tim 1571 3 Sep 27 2010, 10:16pm
                           Read Ataahua's posts Altaira 1543 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
                           Collapse In the US, it's a facts and circumstances test entmaiden 1604 1 Sep 27 2010, 10:31pm
                               Oh I don't doubt squire's right Tim 1602 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:36pm
                       NZ vs US Law entmaiden 1542 0 Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
       Collapse Karl Urban backs the union's stance Ataahua 1617 13 Sep 27 2010, 10:50pm
           Collapse Any particulars on this? Tim 1612 12 Sep 27 2010, 10:59pm
               Collapse See inside Altaira 1537 5 Sep 27 2010, 11:13pm
                   Thank you thank you Altaira Tim 1531 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:20pm
                   Collapse One might also need to consider the jurisdiction of the court that decided the case. entmaiden 1554 1 Sep 27 2010, 11:22pm
                       Indeed our land is a Lawyer's Paradise. Tim 1483 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:29pm
                   Collapse A model maker is not an actor squire 1615 1 Sep 27 2010, 11:43pm
                       I require an expert NZ lawyer panel post haste! Tim 1485 0 Sep 27 2010, 11:49pm
               Collapse Totally different Elladan 1537 5 Sep 27 2010, 11:17pm
                   Collapse That's cool Tim 1545 4 Sep 27 2010, 11:27pm
                       Collapse Hmm computer error I guess Elladan 1437 3 Sep 28 2010, 3:32pm
                           Collapse With so few big films in NZ, there is a lot of project-specific employment even in scenic shops squire 1559 2 Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                               Good points squire Tim 1484 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:21pm
                               True. Elladan 1467 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:49pm
       Collapse ** Update from the Home Page: Cate Blanchett and Sir Ian McKellen may decline Hobbit roles in pay row Altaira 1645 14 Sep 28 2010, 1:13am
           Collapse I agree this is just what we've already read it's a re-hash. // Tim 1717 1 Sep 28 2010, 1:19am
               Cool with me. Pioneer 1725 0 Sep 28 2010, 1:58am
           Big scary stuff to panic the herd.// Kangi Ska 1674 0 Sep 28 2010, 2:51am
           Collapse Yahoo news has put it on their homepage... weaver 1657 7 Sep 28 2010, 2:53am
               Collapse Who wrote this fo Yahoo Movies? Kangi Ska 1704 5 Sep 28 2010, 3:06am
                   "two whole movies based in just the hobbit-land"? squire 1671 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:18am
                   I dearly wish I could comment on the article Tim 1596 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:27am
                   Collapse My jaw is stuck open--somebody help!! Ethel Duath 1653 1 Sep 28 2010, 3:39am
                       Nah... Eowyn of Penns Woods 1534 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:12am
                   Will Leitch: Author of the Bunk Kangi Ska 1497 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:07pm
               And there's our first neeker-breeker article for The Hobbit. / Ataahua 1380 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:57pm
           All this aside, that is one gorgeous shot of Cate Blanchett attached to the article. / SirDennisC 1587 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:14am
           Collapse I think they both know grammaboodawg 1521 1 Sep 28 2010, 9:14am
               wow!!! merlwynd 1508 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:40am
       Collapse Let me duck out by saying... Lark 1654 2 Sep 28 2010, 2:57am
           Not at all SirDennisC 1607 0 Sep 28 2010, 3:22am
           Sorted out? Sorted out? macfalk 1535 0 Sep 28 2010, 4:06pm
       Collapse Offical response from the Studio Bound 1960 39 Sep 28 2010, 9:03am
           Collapse puhhh... this is a serious conflict!! Silmaril 1568 9 Sep 28 2010, 9:46am
               Collapse SAG's Global Rule One Pipe Dream 1633 8 Sep 28 2010, 10:02am
                   I don't see them expelling Tim 1561 0 Sep 28 2010, 1:04pm
                   Collapse That's irrelevant in this case Altaira 1516 6 Sep 28 2010, 3:30pm
                       Collapse It seems ironic, really.... dormouse 1542 5 Sep 28 2010, 4:01pm
                           Collapse Indeed Tim 1515 4 Sep 28 2010, 4:03pm
                               Collapse Right, the union sees this as its biggest and best chance Eruonen 1458 3 Sep 28 2010, 4:10pm
                                   Collapse I agree ... Let's hope sphdle1 1455 2 Sep 28 2010, 4:45pm
                                       Collapse Any news of a New Zealand Government response? Tim 1437 1 Sep 28 2010, 4:59pm
                                           especially since sphdle1 1408 0 Sep 28 2010, 5:14pm
           Not looking good ... Jackson can't be happy right now... sphdle1 1523 0 Sep 28 2010, 11:39am
           Studios answer ti big scary stuff. Kangi Ska 1467 0 Sep 28 2010, 2:33pm
           Collapse Yup. The Studios and PJ are sympatico Tim 1443 17 Sep 28 2010, 3:25pm
               Collapse There's a time and a place sphdle1 1485 16 Sep 28 2010, 4:40pm
                   Collapse And yet SirDennisC 1440 15 Sep 28 2010, 8:55pm
                       Collapse A business seeks to maximize profit - the prime mandate for its existence Eruonen 1493 9 Sep 28 2010, 9:12pm
                           Collapse That doesn't make it right SirDennisC 1463 8 Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
                               Collapse Indeed. Eruonen 1433 7 Sep 28 2010, 9:44pm
                                   Collapse An army must move from water to water SirDennisC 1452 5 Sep 28 2010, 10:43pm
                                       Collapse Everything you say makes sense sphdle1 1363 4 Sep 29 2010, 11:35am
                                           Collapse We should remember squire 1397 3 Sep 29 2010, 1:28pm
                                               Well said Tim 1358 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:28pm
                                               I think you misunderstood sphdle1 1487 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:19pm
                                               Remember... Sunflower 1360 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:52pm
                                   I live in Canada sphdle1 1422 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:42am
                       Collapse Whether it sits right or not facts are facts Tim 1497 2 Sep 28 2010, 9:33pm
                           Collapse A Transylvanian Hobbit might be very interesting...HaHaHaHaHaHa! Kangi Ska 1450 1 Sep 28 2010, 9:55pm
                               Just a thought... cameragod 1333 0 Sep 28 2010, 10:20pm
                       Yes I agree Tim 1353 0 Sep 28 2010, 10:57pm
                       I'm not talking about the little guy sphdle1 1368 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:18am
           Collapse The horror! Will this ever come to a good end? // Compa_Mighty 1297 8 Sep 29 2010, 12:47am
               Collapse One word... Kangi Ska 1365 7 Sep 29 2010, 12:49am
                   Collapse *writes.. Tim 1358 5 Sep 29 2010, 12:52am
                       Collapse Tolkien cioned the word Kangi Ska 1465 2 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                           Collapse Sorry I knew that - was a lame "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" joke. ;-) // Tim 1338 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:58am
                               OK...my mind was not moving in that direction Kangi Ska 1409 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:02am
                       Collapse eucatastrophe Mooseboy018 1400 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                           The ride has made me a bit queezy Kangi Ska 1376 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:59am
                   (EU) catastrophe indeed. macfalk 1207 0 Sep 29 2010, 7:43am
       Collapse *Update* ''Talk to us, Kiwi actors tell Hobbit film's producers'' Rogash 1574 13 Sep 28 2010, 5:49pm
           Collapse It means we're right back where we started from Altaira 1436 2 Sep 28 2010, 5:53pm
               NZ Actor's equity's response to PJ statement Tim 1440 0 Sep 28 2010, 6:45pm
               And PJ's claims that they aren't even a Union is presented with a genuine non-answer Tim 1422 0 Sep 28 2010, 6:50pm
           Collapse To make matters more interesting Tim 1467 6 Sep 28 2010, 6:18pm
               Collapse That must be why Altaira 1429 5 Sep 28 2010, 6:48pm
                   Collapse Interesting I wonder if that helps their union status Tim 1431 1 Sep 28 2010, 6:54pm
                       I believe... Ruijor 1367 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:45pm
                   They also can't seem to agree how to classify The Hobbit (union or non-union) Tim 1409 0 Sep 28 2010, 7:55pm
                   Collapse MEAA "has no legal status" in New Zealand Eruonen 1525 1 Sep 28 2010, 8:18pm
                       Killing the Golden Goose Eruonen 1537 0 Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
           Collapse Technically, there are no producers. entmaiden 1389 2 Sep 29 2010, 4:18am
               Collapse I agree this is an extremely weird situation Tim 1304 1 Sep 29 2010, 4:34am
                   meeting or not? Silmaril 1262 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:49am
       Collapse A strong suggestion: Kangi Ska 1576 2 Sep 28 2010, 8:15pm
           *Relaxes* Tenses up* *Relaxes* Tim 1412 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
           Yeah, sure... Sunflower 1445 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:46am
       Collapse Links to two strong articles from NZ Stuff Kangi Ska 1484 1 Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
           A third article from NZ Stuff: Karl Urban backs union Kangi Ska 1423 0 Sep 28 2010, 9:49pm
       Collapse Excellent article on Scoop.co.nz about this whole debacle... Cad Monkey 1412 21 Sep 28 2010, 11:28pm
           The clearest information I have seen.// Kangi Ska 1321 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:06am
           Collapse Highly informative and very reasonable. Ataahua 1369 14 Sep 29 2010, 12:09am
               Collapse What I found curious Tim 1393 13 Sep 29 2010, 12:32am
                   One of the two is wrong Kangi Ska 1360 0 Sep 29 2010, 12:46am
                   Collapse Your second quote is correct Voronwë_the_Faithful 1419 10 Sep 29 2010, 2:04am
                       Collapse Good find. And it does bring the Scoop article into question. Kangi Ska 1416 1 Sep 29 2010, 2:11am
                           I think it may also be the fastest moving thread I have seen Voronwë_the_Faithful 1327 0 Sep 29 2010, 2:21am
                       Collapse Admittedly I haven't weighed through the entire thing Tim 1326 7 Sep 29 2010, 2:30am
                           I would trust Voronwë the Faithful's reading Kangi Ska 1321 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:11am
                           Collapse I'm no lawyer but Envinyatar 1332 5 Sep 29 2010, 3:16am
                               OK I surrender!// Kangi Ska 1285 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:20am
                               You are correct; my apologies Voronwë_the_Faithful 1321 0 Sep 29 2010, 4:30am
                               Yes, you're right. Kimi 1253 0 Sep 29 2010, 5:27am
                               Collapse This vindicates the Scoop article that I swooned over(I guess) Kangi Ska 1399 1 Sep 29 2010, 2:20pm
                                   Yes Voronwë_the_Faithful 1573 0 Sep 29 2010, 3:34pm
                   Both are true - no, really :-) Kimi 1333 0 Sep 29 2010, 5:18am
           Great find Eruonen 1401 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:23am
           Good Scoop CINE 1426 0 Sep 29 2010, 1:27am
           If tax incentives are the carrot SirDennisC 1256 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:35am
           Collapse The writer seems to suggest sphdle1 1327 1 Sep 29 2010, 12:11pm
               I may have mistook Campbell's meaning - SirDennisC 1388 0 Sep 29 2010, 6:02pm
       Dead end durfalas 1290 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:16am
       Collapse My ultimate frustration with this duats 1397 9 Sep 29 2010, 7:35pm
           Collapse Also duats 1283 5 Sep 29 2010, 7:52pm
               Collapse I would assume NZ has free speech Eruonen 1229 3 Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
                   I don't think NZ is as free in speech as the U.S. Eruonen 1209 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:37pm
                   Collapse Possibly. Ataahua 1225 1 Sep 29 2010, 8:46pm
                       Let us hope this evil genie does not surface! Eruonen 1203 0 Sep 29 2010, 9:01pm
               Perhaps, but Silverlode 1278 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
           Agree with many of your points SirDennisC 1304 0 Sep 29 2010, 8:22pm
           Collapse Not completely out of production's hands Gildor 1453 1 Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
               Actually that process has already started Tim 1530 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:47am
       Collapse Now Kiwi politicians are getting involved... Cad Monkey 1303 22 Sep 29 2010, 9:23pm
           Collapse And the New Zealand government dormouse 1242 21 Sep 29 2010, 9:50pm
               Collapse Since NZ politician know what is at stake... Eruonen 1150 20 Sep 29 2010, 10:21pm
                   Let us hope... Kangi Ska 1187 0 Sep 29 2010, 10:28pm
                   Collapse I predict you're right Tim 1220 18 Sep 29 2010, 10:29pm
                       Collapse Not all politicians... dormouse 1150 17 Sep 29 2010, 10:45pm
                           Collapse Ah yes....goodwill Eruonen 1177 15 Sep 29 2010, 11:01pm
                               Collapse Not to be too cruel squire 1311 14 Sep 30 2010, 12:27am
                                   Collapse I hoot twice for Weta: a truly global film asset.// Kangi Ska 1098 1 Sep 30 2010, 12:37am
                                       Hoot hoot! // Tim 1593 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:58am
                                   Collapse Ideological maybe - power most certainly oh "squire the cruel" ;-) Tim 1261 9 Sep 30 2010, 12:40am
                                       Collapse Drat those SirDennisC 1391 8 Sep 30 2010, 12:53am
                                           Collapse Don't fall over dead from shock Tim 1540 7 Sep 30 2010, 12:56am
                                               Collapse I have problems with really big unions Kangi Ska 1316 6 Sep 30 2010, 1:18am
                                                   Collapse Good and evil? squire 1245 5 Sep 30 2010, 2:13am
                                                       Good and evil are real as is New Zealand Kangi Ska 1264 0 Sep 30 2010, 2:21am
                                                       Collapse To paraphrase Aragorn Voronwë_the_Faithful 1718 3 Sep 30 2010, 3:23am
                                                           Collapse Right, thank you for that squire 1421 2 Sep 30 2010, 3:51am
                                                               The good dogs taste better. (its a dog eat dog world) Kangi Ska 1619 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:57am
                                                               I knew you were going to ask that :-) Voronwë_the_Faithful 1633 0 Sep 30 2010, 4:16am
                                   When the dog finishes eating the dog Kangi Ska 1223 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
                                   Absolutely, that is my point Eruonen 1355 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:01am
                           Hmmm this article sheds a tad more light thanks dormouse Tim 1276 0 Sep 29 2010, 11:04pm
       Collapse Here is the relevant NZ law.... Iolite 1261 2 Sep 30 2010, 1:41am
           Thanks Iolite! Tim 1277 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:46am
           This must really throw SirDennisC 1345 0 Sep 30 2010, 1:57am
       Welcome to Azerbajdzjan, Bilbo Baggins. macfalk 1540 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:09pm
       My guess Zizix 1532 0 Sep 30 2010, 12:31pm
     Collapse Alright you thread-hijackers ;-) Tim 1510 5 Sep 30 2010, 2:54pm
           Collapse SAG will lay back until the smoke clears. Kangi Ska 1473 4 Sep 30 2010, 3:08pm
               Collapse Correction: SPADA not SNAGA Kangi Ska 1407 2 Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm
                   Collapse Ha ha I thought you were making fun of SPADA Tim 1483 1 Sep 30 2010, 3:21pm
                       It was Freudian slip. Kangi Ska 2747 0 Sep 30 2010, 5:23pm
               MEAA Pipe Dream 1535 0 Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm
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